Korean War's Kapyong should rank among great Canadian battles: filmmaker

Nov 9, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Canada.com

Canadian soldiers in the Korean War. Canadian troops won a pivotal victory in a 1951 battle against a massive Chinese invasion force.

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CHINA COMMUNISTS THEIR ASS KICKED BY THE UNITED STATES IN KOREAN WAR!
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not really America was getting its a$$ kicked until the Canadians came in to fight it...
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not really America was getting its a$$ kicked until the Canadians came in to fight it...
NOT TRUE, THE GREAT GENERAL MACARTHUR CHASED THE COMMUNIST CHINESE OUT OF KOREA AND INTO CHINA. THEN THE CROOKED DC MAFIA FAGOTS FIRED HIM. CHINA WAS RELIEVED, HE WAS VERY SCARY. THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH CANADIANS SENT TO KOREA TO MAKE A BIG ENOUGH DIFFERENCE. WESTERN POLITICIANS ARE WEAK, THAT'S WHY YOU ALWAYS LOSE YOUR WARS!
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and you say those red book thumping commies are brain washed...

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China intervenes (October – December 1950)

Chinese forces cross the Yalu River, 19 October 1950

On 27 June 1950, two days after the KPA invaded and three months before the Chinese entered the war, President Truman dispatched the United States Seventh Fleet to the Taiwan Strait,

On 20 August 1950, Premier Zhou Enlai informed the United Nations that "Korea is China's neighbor... The Chinese people cannot but be concerned about a solution of the Korean question".

Thus, via neutral-country diplomats, China warned that in safeguarding Chinese national security, they would intervene against the UN Command in Korea.[39]:83 President Truman interpreted the communication as "a bald attempt to blackmail the UN", and dismissed it

On 15 October 1950, President Truman and General MacArthur met at Wake Island in the mid-Pacific Ocean, for a meeting much publicized because of the General's discourteous refusal to meet the President in the US.[39]:88 To President Truman, MacArthur speculated there was little risk of Chinese intervention in Korea,[39]:89 and that the PRC's opportunity for aiding the KPA had lapsed. He believed the PRC had some 300,000 soldiers in Manchuria, and some 100,000–125,000 soldiers at the Yalu River.

He further concluded that, although half of those forces might cross south, "if the Chinese tried to get down to Pyongyang, there would be the greatest slaughter" without air force protection.[91][102]

Map of the Battle of Chosin Reservoir

After secretly crossing the Yalu River on 19 October, the PVA 13th Army Group launched the First Phase Offensive on 25 October, attacking the advancing UN forces near the Sino-Korean border.

After decimating the ROK II Corps at the Battle of Onjong, the first confrontation between Chinese and US military occurred on 1 November 1950; deep in North Korea, thousands of soldiers from the PVA 39th Army encircled and attacked the US 8th Cavalry Regiment with three-prong assaults—from the north, northwest, and west—and overran the defensive position flanks in the Battle of Unsan.[103] The surprise assault forced the UN forces to retreat back to the Ch'ongch'on River, while the Chinese unexpectedly disappeared in their mountain hideouts following their victory.

The UN Command, however, were unconvinced that the Chinese had openly intervened due to the sudden Chinese withdrawal. On 24 November, the Home-by-Christmas Offensive was launched with the US Eighth Army advancing in northwest Korea, while the US X Corps were attacking along the Korean east coast. But the Chinese were waiting in ambush with their Second Phase Offensive.

On 25 November at the Korean western front, the PVA 13th Army Group attacked and over-ran the ROK II Corps at the Battle of the Ch'ongch'on River, and then decimated the US 2nd Infantry Division on the UN forces' right flank.[39]:98–9 The UN Command retreated; the US Eighth Army's retreat (the longest in US Army history)[104] was made possible because of the Turkish Brigade's successful, but very costly, rear-guard delaying action near Kunuri that slowed the PVA attack for two days (27–9 November). On 27 November at the Korean eastern front, a US 7th Infantry Division Regimental Combat Team (3,000 soldiers) and the US 1st Marine Division (12,000–15,000 marines) were unprepared for the PVA 9th Army Group's three-pronged encirclement tactics at the Battle of Chosin Reservoir, but they managed to escape under X Corps support fire—albeit with some 15,000 collective casualties.[105]

By 30 November, the PVA 13th Army Group managed to expel the US Eighth Army from northwest Korea. Retreating from the north faster than they had counter-invaded, the Eighth Army crossed the 38th parallel border in mid December.

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not really America was getting its a$$ kicked until the Canadians came in to fight it...
Be careful, we might sick the salvation army on Alberta.
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<quoted text>Be careful, we might sick the salvation army on Alberta.
you americans would probably get your a$$ kicked by people of Canada again...

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you americans would probably get your a$$ kicked by people of Canada again...
Yeah, we constantly worry about the awesome superpower of the laziest people on earth. But YOUR QUEEN wouldn't give you permission anyway.:)

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<quoted text>Yeah, we constantly worry about the awesome superpower of the laziest people on earth. But YOUR QUEEN wouldn't give you permission anyway.:)
OUR QUEEN is merely a figurehead of state. She has zero say in Canadian affairs unless directly petitioned by the PM or Parliament. That has only happened twice that I know of in my 45 years of existence. We keep her around simply for tradition. Kind'a like the way you guys keep The Constitution and Bill of Rights around ;-)
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<quoted text>Yeah, we constantly worry about the awesome superpower of the laziest people on earth. But YOUR QUEEN wouldn't give you permission anyway.:)
you talk big for a persons whose Country that has not won a war on their own since WWII

oops wait you won in Grenada and Panama

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not really America was getting its a$$ kicked until the Canadians came in to fight it...
The Americans and the rest of the UN forces were doing just fine until the Chinese poured across the border. That's when everyone routed except the Australian battalion and the Canadian battalion, neither were full strength. IIRC the Canadian battalion was down to fewer than 50 men before the battle began.(A Canadian infantry battalion typically contains 100-200 men) Their bravery and fighting skill against a full division allowed the rest of the UN forces to regroup.
I don't know what the casualty rates were for the battle with the Aussies, but after the fight with the Canadians, there were 12 Canadian dead compared to over 300 Chinese dead.
The Canadians were ably covered by supporting fire from the New Zealand gunners after the Aussies pulled back to their new defensive positions. The Canadians were also resupplied right on time and right on target by 4 USAF C-119 Flying Boxcars.

As far as beating the odds goes and handing the enemy their asses on a platter, it ranks up there with Vimy Ridge.
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Glad I was somewhere else.
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The Americans and the rest of the UN forces were doing just fine until the Chinese poured across the border. That's when everyone routed except the Australian battalion and the Canadian battalion, neither were full strength. IIRC the Canadian battalion was down to fewer than 50 men before the battle began.(A Canadian infantry battalion typically contains 100-200 men) Their bravery and fighting skill against a full division allowed the rest of the UN forces to regroup.
I don't know what the casualty rates were for the battle with the Aussies, but after the fight with the Canadians, there were 12 Canadian dead compared to over 300 Chinese dead.
The Canadians were ably covered by supporting fire from the New Zealand gunners after the Aussies pulled back to their new defensive positions. The Canadians were also resupplied right on time and right on target by 4 USAF C-119 Flying Boxcars.
As far as beating the odds goes and handing the enemy their asses on a platter, it ranks up there with Vimy Ridge.
Canadians have always been used as the "shock troops" in both world wars...

in world war I when... the Germans first time using mustard gas...

Canadians were the only ones who did not run...

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Canadians have always been used as the "shock troops" in both world wars...
in world war I when... the Germans first time using mustard gas...
Canadians were the only ones who did not run...
In WW1, the Germans nicknamed the Canadian soldiers, "Stormtroopers".
At the Battle of Vimy Ridge, the German commander noted in his diary on the day of the assault, "Arrayed before us were England's four finest assault battalions, the Canadians".
In fact, in prepping for the assault, the Canadian army re-wrote the book on infantry tactics, developing several tactics that are still in use around the world today.

During the invasion of Normandy the Canadians were given the toughest beach after Omaha to land on. They pushed farther inland on the first day than any of the other armies.
They were also the only Western Ally to liberate a European country on their own.
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In WW1, the Germans nicknamed the Canadian soldiers, "Stormtroopers".
At the Battle of Vimy Ridge, the German commander noted in his diary on the day of the assault, "Arrayed before us were England's four finest assault battalions, the Canadians".
In fact, in prepping for the assault, the Canadian army re-wrote the book on infantry tactics, developing several tactics that are still in use around the world today.
During the invasion of Normandy the Canadians were given the toughest beach after Omaha to land on. They pushed farther inland on the first day than any of the other armies.
They were also the only Western Ally to liberate a European country on their own.
also Canadians were held back many times so the Americans could take the glory...in WWII

thats one of the reasons I dont like americans...

as they belittle Canadian troops... ie our involvement in Afghanistan, when Canadian troops were getting the highest casualty rates...

and before we went into Afghanistan... there was a terrorist caught at the Canadian/US border trying to cross into the USA to kill americans...

and after our troops went into Afghanistan... there were homegrown terrorist caught, hoping to blow something up in Canada..

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also Canadians were held back many times so the Americans could take the glory...in WWII
thats one of the reasons I dont like americans...
as they belittle Canadian troops... ie our involvement in Afghanistan, when Canadian troops were getting the highest casualty rates...
and before we went into Afghanistan... there was a terrorist caught at the Canadian/US border trying to cross into the USA to kill americans...
and after our troops went into Afghanistan... there were homegrown terrorist caught, hoping to blow something up in Canada..
Meh, it wasn't just the Americans, it was the British too.
Which I find ironic because on D-Day, the Canadians had to be told to stop because the Brits on either side couldn't keep up, thus leaving both Canadian flanks exposed.
If anything, the Brits piss me off more because everytime the fight got tough, they sent in the Canadians. But when it was time for the glory of liberation, there wasn't a Canuck to be found.
EXCEPT Holland. We have the distinction of being the only western army to single handedly liberate a European country during WW2.

And don't let the Americans who are ignorant bother you. Most US soldiers that fought beside their Canadian counterparts know just how friggin' tough and professional they are.
At one point in A-stan, a Canadian sniper was brought in to help the US 101st AB with some counter-sniper action. They didn't have anyone in their unit skilled enough to make the shot.
By the same token, if it wasn't for US transport, our troops would probably still be in the deployment phase lol. But that's what allies are supposed to do, pinch in and help where their ally is short or in trouble.
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Now Harper is steering Canada toward being a Chinese slave-state

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/canada...

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Now Harper is steering Canada toward being a Chinese slave-state
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/canada...
The reality is, who the hell else are we gonna sell our shit to?
We already do $1.5 billion in trade EVERY DAY with the US even though they are sucking hind tit economically right now.
The Europeans are in the same hole as the US only they seem to have some "issues of conscience" when it comes to trading with Canada.
So, who else is there that has an economy to bother with?
I don't like it any better than you but sometimes fiscal realities suck ass.

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<quoted text>Be careful, we might sick the salvation army on Alberta.
Bahahahahaha!
I bet the Salvation Army would win too.
Canadians are so gay...

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