Dr. Phil Family -- The Trouble with A...
greenwitch

Saint Paul, MN

#122 Nov 2, 2011
Slayer wrote:
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Harvard Law was a goal Katherine said she had when first on the show -- was it 2002? She was 13 and had no idea what she wanted. No, apparently she didn't finish college and I'm not sure whether she was even attending a 4 or 2-year college. Her last stated career goal was to be a teacher -- far more realistic than a practicing attorney.
I recall her case judge was lenient and b/c of her age, the charges against her were either dropped or recorded as a misdemeanor, so she probably could get a public school teaching job with a 4-year degree and certification.
Based on one photo I saw of her on a job, it looked like she was working at some sort of mall food court job, in a cutesy uniform -- it's a beginning, better than never having had any job at all like Alex.
Oh yeah -- the date for the Dr. Phil Family update has changed!!!!
It's now airing on Monday, Nov. 9th!
Sorry about misreporting, but even Erin didn't have the correct date.
Are you going to watch it?Dr Phil for whatever reason may care about this family, probablly because it makes money for him, but he can't think the nation continues to care. People, the economy, the world are moving on. There are all kinds of new reality shows that are a lot more interesting. I dont wish these people ill, but they are not my problem.
Slayer

Birmingham, AL

#123 Nov 3, 2011
greenwitch wrote:
<quoted text>Are you going to watch it?Dr Phil for whatever reason may care about this family, probablly because it makes money for him, but he can't think the nation continues to care. People, the economy, the world are moving on. There are all kinds of new reality shows that are a lot more interesting. I dont wish these people ill, but they are not my problem.
Yeah, I'll look at the show from the web site, or if I have downtime, I'll tune in for some of it. Since I work in my home 90% of the time, and about 20% of that time is in 'hurry up and wait mode' I do have time to see it.

From the standpoint of 'upper middle class family drama' what bothers me the most about this particular crisis is that Alex was such an in-the-audience's face horrible failure on Dr. Phil's part. I recall his endless droning on about how 'wonderful, intelligent, and articulate' Alex is, and what 'a good heart' she has. I kept thinking OMG! what is Dr. Phoney seeing in her that most of us in his audience don't? Is he blind, or just incompetent?

I participated on DP's message board until things got heated and his censors blocked my posts -- which made me very angry and is mainly why I started this thread. Now I check a couple of times a week on Erin's Twitter page only to see if there is a post from her about Alex going to rehab or dying. And it's good to see the 3 children she abandoned are doing well with their grandparents. Should she get pregnant again wonder to whom she'll abandon that baby? Sad.

In all, Alex's story is a broad sociological commentary on the US today -- young adults addicted/dependent on prescription/illegal drugs or alcohol, present with narcissistic or sociopathic behaviors, are impulsive and violent, lack an understanding of consequences, have no moral compass, nor ability to map a future, nor the discipline to work towards any goal. I'm certain Alex would claim none of this is her fault, but would place all blame on her parents.
greenwitch

Saint Paul, MN

#124 Nov 3, 2011
Slayer wrote:
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Yeah, I'll look at the show from the web site, or if I have downtime, I'll tune in for some of it. Since I work in my home 90% of the time, and about 20% of that time is in 'hurry up and wait mode' I do have time to see it.
From the standpoint of 'upper middle class family drama' what bothers me the most about this particular crisis is that Alex was such an in-the-audience's face horrible failure on Dr. Phil's part. I recall his endless droning on about how 'wonderful, intelligent, and articulate' Alex is, and what 'a good heart' she has. I kept thinking OMG! what is Dr. Phoney seeing in her that most of us in his audience don't? Is he blind, or just incompetent?
I participated on DP's message board until things got heated and his censors blocked my posts -- which made me very angry and is mainly why I started this thread. Now I check a couple of times a week on Erin's Twitter page only to see if there is a post from her about Alex going to rehab or dying. And it's good to see the 3 children she abandoned are doing well with their grandparents. Should she get pregnant again wonder to whom she'll abandon that baby? Sad.
In all, Alex's story is a broad sociological commentary on the US today -- young adults addicted/dependent on prescription/illegal drugs or alcohol, present with narcissistic or sociopathic behaviors, are impulsive and violent, lack an understanding of consequences, have no moral compass, nor ability to map a future, nor the discipline to work towards any goal. I'm certain Alex would claim none of this is her fault, but would place all blame on her parents.
I'd like to work at home more. I look at the web site actually also. Maybe Phil is trying to save face. You can't win with a person like Alexandra. Hopefully her kids will be okay. That was a disgrace, having a baby born addicted to drugs. It's been going on for years, but she was such a liar and phil sat there acting like he believed her. She just shredded his credibility.
Slayer

Chelsea, AL

#125 Nov 4, 2011
greenwitch wrote:
<quoted text>I'd like to work at home more. I look at the web site actually also. Maybe Phil is trying to save face. You can't win with a person like Alexandra. Hopefully her kids will be okay. That was a disgrace, having a baby born addicted to drugs.
Agreed, terrible to hear how her son suffered, and she didn't seem to care that much. Doubt she'd care if she made another baby addicted -- just hand it over, or leave it in the hospital, and get back on the streets to score another hit. Wish I had more sympathy for addicts, but I still believe if they truly want to stop, it's possible, just have to find the courage take the first step.
greenwitch wrote:
It's been going on for years, but she was such a liar and phil sat there acting like he believed her. She just shredded his credibility.
DP seeming to believe Alex made me crazy too, and agree with you, she did shred what credibility he may have had. Guess that's why he still gets requests for updates from this family. There are likely a few people who want to believe Alex has it in her to kick opiates.
greenwitch

Saint Paul, MN

#126 Nov 4, 2011
Slayer wrote:
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Agreed, terrible to hear how her son suffered, and she didn't seem to care that much. Doubt she'd care if she made another baby addicted -- just hand it over, or leave it in the hospital, and get back on the streets to score another hit. Wish I had more sympathy for addicts, but I still believe if they truly want to stop, it's possible, just have to find the courage take the first step.
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DP seeming to believe Alex made me crazy too, and agree with you, she did shred what credibility he may have had. Guess that's why he still gets requests for updates from this family. There are likely a few people who want to believe Alex has it in her to kick opiates.
Today I saw the preview for next week. Alexandra,all prettied up sits there and says she lied, very coldly and then whines about how she just wants to be with her children. If she's not a psychopath I'm the next Queen of England. Then Katherine has an announcement, no doubt that she is as dumb as her sister and got pregnant. Erin is like tearing her hair out. I think Dr Phil has made them all worse. Did they really delete your posts? I've heard others complain about that? I never could find any of mine.
bobblehead

Hialeah, FL

#127 Nov 5, 2011
Got some real info...

The sister Katherine is/was pregnant. Recently gave birth to a boy.

Alex..wow, where to begin. She is not with Tony. She HAS been shacking up with his COUSIN. Who is maried. The wife is in jail but scheduled to be released soon. The new man calls Alexander his " wife " , even though his whole family is discusted. He has 2 kids with the wife in jail/prision, which Alex posted on her facebook how nice it was to go out to eat with " her new man" and his kids. Yet setting off a firestorm with in the family. She has herself and a picture of the new guy as her profile picture. she is looking scary and mean.

All her mom, Erin will say, is that Alexandra is in a bad place and is not willing to get help.

If i find out more before Monday, i'll post.
Couldn't make this stuff up........
greenwitch

Brooklyn, NY

#128 Nov 5, 2011
bobblehead wrote:
Got some real info...
The sister Katherine is/was pregnant. Recently gave birth to a boy.
Alex..wow, where to begin. She is not with Tony. She HAS been shacking up with his COUSIN. Who is maried. The wife is in jail but scheduled to be released soon. The new man calls Alexander his " wife " , even though his whole family is discusted. He has 2 kids with the wife in jail/prision, which Alex posted on her facebook how nice it was to go out to eat with " her new man" and his kids. Yet setting off a firestorm with in the family. She has herself and a picture of the new guy as her profile picture. she is looking scary and mean.
All her mom, Erin will say, is that Alexandra is in a bad place and is not willing to get help.
If i find out more before Monday, i'll post.
Couldn't make this stuff up........
I wouldnt think you made it up. What next!
greenwitch

Brooklyn, NY

#129 Nov 5, 2011
bobblehead wrote:
Got some real info...
The sister Katherine is/was pregnant. Recently gave birth to a boy.
Alex..wow, where to begin. She is not with Tony. She HAS been shacking up with his COUSIN. Who is maried. The wife is in jail but scheduled to be released soon. The new man calls Alexander his " wife " , even though his whole family is discusted. He has 2 kids with the wife in jail/prision, which Alex posted on her facebook how nice it was to go out to eat with " her new man" and his kids. Yet setting off a firestorm with in the family. She has herself and a picture of the new guy as her profile picture. she is looking scary and mean.
All her mom, Erin will say, is that Alexandra is in a bad place and is not willing to get help.
If i find out more before Monday, i'll post.
Couldn't make this stuff up........
I looked at Erin's Twitter. Guy is named Howard, was arrested for domestic violence, she thinks Alex is in danger. Also she said Brandon relapsed. What do you all think of that?
WatchingATrainWr eck

Milaca, MN

#130 Nov 6, 2011
I couldn't tell if the post about Brandon was new, or was she just stating something from the past.

I agree that Dr Phil is trying to save face. He went on far too long with this family, insisting there were "good people". A good person doesn't have a child born addicted to drugs, sorry.

I can't help but watch the wreckage tomorrow.
bobblehead

Boca Raton, FL

#131 Nov 6, 2011
Greenwitch....

Yes. That's the guy. Don't know much about Erins Twitter, but the guy was in jail. Alex bragged, along with knowing all the jail slang, that his amount to be released was lowered and she was soooo excited to welcome him home . Made sure everyone knew it meant sex. And has said many, many times just how much they are doing it. Gross. hope the " revelation " isn't that she's preggers again.

Also, i misspoke on previous post. Alex did go to dinner with someone elses children and again bragged about it. Don't think it was the recent guy ( Howard ) girls. But boy, she is vicious to the other family members. And i forgot to mention, i believe Howards REAL wife is out of jail now. Maybe that's Erins worry, because he is calling alex his wife ( even with all the other family members hearing and angry ), while she never fails to mention how much she loves Howard and how much they do it. yuck. He just says he'll divorce the latest wife and marry alex. And his children have called him on this. Feel for the kids.
As for Katherine, she seems to be getting along with Erin. But get this, not only does she have her own newborn, she has a stepson.. It must be from the baby daddy. Katherine doesn't chatter as much as the rest, so you probably know more than me.
I do know that Alex made a point of telling her whole family to F off and told her sister something to the effect of F You and your baby shower. Classy.
I do want to say that A;ex is the master of firing off at the mouth and now that she has switched from the last baby daddy ( Tony ) to HIS cousin ( Howard ), 99 0/0 of the family is not happy with her. They are also tired of seeing themselves and their family's name all over DP's show. Because Alex can't keep her legs closed and loves to throw sh..t in peoples faces. I hate to say it, but something or someone is going to make her answer for all the crazieness she's caused/ing. If you thought she was/is bad on the tv, it's a zillion times worse in person or via the net.
greenwitch

Brooklyn, NY

#132 Nov 6, 2011
WatchingATrainWreck wrote:
I couldn't tell if the post about Brandon was new, or was she just stating something from the past.
I agree that Dr Phil is trying to save face. He went on far too long with this family, insisting there were "good people". A good person doesn't have a child born addicted to drugs, sorry.
I can't help but watch the wreckage tomorrow.
The thing with Brandon was a month or so ago. I'd like to watch but will be at work. I may watch on You Tube or on the site. I don't know if some of them are good people, but Alexandra has shown no indication of this. The last pregnancy was the last straw. Anthony is a cute kid, Erin has him on her Twitter.
greenwitch

Brooklyn, NY

#133 Nov 6, 2011
bobblehead wrote:
Greenwitch....
Yes. That's the guy. Don't know much about Erins Twitter, but the guy was in jail. Alex bragged, along with knowing all the jail slang, that his amount to be released was lowered and she was soooo excited to welcome him home . Made sure everyone knew it meant sex. And has said many, many times just how much they are doing it. Gross. hope the " revelation " isn't that she's preggers again.
Also, i misspoke on previous post. Alex did go to dinner with someone elses children and again bragged about it. Don't think it was the recent guy ( Howard ) girls. But boy, she is vicious to the other family members. And i forgot to mention, i believe Howards REAL wife is out of jail now. Maybe that's Erins worry, because he is calling alex his wife ( even with all the other family members hearing and angry ), while she never fails to mention how much she loves Howard and how much they do it. yuck. He just says he'll divorce the latest wife and marry alex. And his children have called him on this. Feel for the kids.
As for Katherine, she seems to be getting along with Erin. But get this, not only does she have her own newborn, she has a stepson.. It must be from the baby daddy. Katherine doesn't chatter as much as the rest, so you probably know more than me.
I do know that Alex made a point of telling her whole family to F off and told her sister something to the effect of F You and your baby shower. Classy.
I do want to say that A;ex is the master of firing off at the mouth and now that she has switched from the last baby daddy ( Tony ) to HIS cousin ( Howard ), 99 0/0 of the family is not happy with her. They are also tired of seeing themselves and their family's name all over DP's show. Because Alex can't keep her legs closed and loves to throw sh..t in peoples faces. I hate to say it, but something or someone is going to make her answer for all the crazieness she's caused/ing. If you thought she was/is bad on the tv, it's a zillion times worse in person or via the net.
Just bizarre. Think how many kids lives Alex is ruining. i'd hate to meet her in person. We can all talk after the show. Dr. Phil needs to get off the air before he makes a total jackass of himself.
Slayer

Chelsea, AL

#134 Nov 7, 2011
greenwitch wrote:
<quoted text>I looked at Erin's Twitter. Guy is named Howard, was arrested for domestic violence, she thinks Alex is in danger. Also she said Brandon relapsed. What do you all think of that?
greenwitch -- kinda guessing that Erin's tweet about Brandon's drug relapse had to do with Brandon's one relapse after completing treatment. I don't think he has relapsed again -- that would be a real shame!
Slayer

Chelsea, AL

#135 Nov 7, 2011
bobblehead wrote:
Greenwitch....
Yes. That's the guy. Don't know much about Erins Twitter, but the guy was in jail. Alex bragged, along with knowing all the jail slang, that his amount to be released was lowered and she was soooo excited to welcome him home . Made sure everyone knew it meant sex. And has said many, many times just how much they are doing it. Gross. hope the " revelation " isn't that she's preggers again.
Hey this post is for you and Greenwitch -- Dr. Phil's show hasn't aired in my time zone yet, but I looked at the web site transcript and video clips. Cousin Howard, according to Erin, has 5 children she knows of, and has been rearrested for non-payment of child support -- Alex sure knows how to pick 'em!

The big reveal to Erin by DP was that a close 'friend or family member?' called the show to tell them that Alex had her IUD birth control device removed so she and Howard could have children!!!!
bobblehead wrote:
As for Katherine, she seems to be getting along with Erin. But get this, not only does she have her own newborn, she has a stepson.. It must be from the baby daddy.
I do know that Alex made a point of telling her whole family to F off and told her sister something to the effect of F You and your baby shower. Classy.
This is the kind of juicy stuff that doesn't make it on the web site. Didn't know about Paul's (Katherine's baby daddy) existing son. OMG! Katherine could only be 20-21 years old now -- to me, that's young for childbirth. And to hear that Alex is giving her younger sister the finger for having a child is the worst! Katherine referred to Paul as her fiance, but who knows? She may be suggesting they plan to get married because it looks better to other people.
bobblehead wrote:
I do want to say that A;ex is the master of firing off at the mouth and now that she has switched from the last baby daddy ( Tony ) to HIS cousin ( Howard ), 99 0/0 of the family is not happy with her. They are also tired of seeing themselves and their family's name all over DP's show. Because Alex can't keep her legs closed and loves to throw sh..t in peoples faces. I hate to say it, but something or someone is going to make her answer for all the crazieness she's caused/ing. If you thought she was/is bad on the tv, it's a zillion times worse in person or via the net.
Greenwitch and I agreed a long time ago that Alex's nasty mouth is more than about drug addiction, Alex is simply a rotten, hideous, piece of scum. She craves drama, and ruining other people's lives is fun for her. She is a pure narcissistic sociopath in full-blown drama mode!

bobblehead -- do you know Alex personally?
Slayer

Chelsea, AL

#136 Nov 7, 2011
greenwitch wrote:
<quoted text>I think Dr Phil has made them all worse. Did they really delete your posts? I've heard others complain about that? I never could find any of mine.
Yes, on DP's message board, your posts have to be reviewed before they can be seen by others. A few times mine would show up then be deleted by someone later, or else, they wouldn't show up at all. Next, all my posts were blocked, I suppose based on my ID.

The last post that was blocked was a complaint from me about Alex getting pregnant so often. I posted I didn't care if she hooked up with every sailor from every warship that docked in Jacksonville, FL, as long as she used birth control and stopped squirting babies -- apparently I was blocked permanently after that one.
BBH

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#137 Nov 8, 2011
This site has my city wrong, but oh well. I'll live there.....
I don't want to get to much more involved here. Enjoy reading your posts though. And must say was really suprised at what little information anyone was saying about Dr. Phil's star Alexandra.
Notice how he and everyone else seems to be moving away from her on the show and focusing on Katherine? He was the one who cut her off a long time ago, now that the other is a train wreck, he brings her back as his shining example. Jeeze.
As much entertainment as it might be to watch on television, the whole family should have stayed away from being followed around. Unless they are getting a major payday ( and i don't think that's the case ).
I will say that i know a few of the people a bit, but have not met Alex. Just going by what i hear and read.
Greenwitch ----- has Erin said what she is afraid for with Alexandra? Notice how there are only about 3 replies to Erin or Katherines blog on DP's board? Probably because of all the censors like Slayer has mentioned.
Guess anything new will have to go through this site, since most others cut everyone with anything negativate to say off at the knees. Nice talking to you all.
greenwitch

Brooklyn, NY

#138 Nov 8, 2011
BBH wrote:
This site has my city wrong, but oh well. I'll live there.....
I don't want to get to much more involved here. Enjoy reading your posts though. And must say was really suprised at what little information anyone was saying about Dr. Phil's star Alexandra.
Notice how he and everyone else seems to be moving away from her on the show and focusing on Katherine? He was the one who cut her off a long time ago, now that the other is a train wreck, he brings her back as his shining example. Jeeze.
As much entertainment as it might be to watch on television, the whole family should have stayed away from being followed around. Unless they are getting a major payday ( and i don't think that's the case ).
I will say that i know a few of the people a bit, but have not met Alex. Just going by what i hear and read.
Greenwitch ----- has Erin said what she is afraid for with Alexandra? Notice how there are only about 3 replies to Erin or Katherines blog on DP's board? Probably because of all the censors like Slayer has mentioned.
Guess anything new will have to go through this site, since most others cut everyone with anything negativate to say off at the knees. Nice talking to you all.
Sh%t, my post disappeared. Here I go again. I've been listed in cities all over the place, I'm in New York. It's where the server happens to be. My theory re Alex: What she likes is being pregnant, not being a mom. It gets her all the perks and attention from Phil and her family and doctors and everyone. It gets her on TV. She can always dump the kid as soon as it's born and what are the parents going to do? I'll break this into 2 posts so i don't lose it.
greenwitch

Brooklyn, NY

#139 Nov 8, 2011
BBH wrote:
This site has my city wrong, but oh well. I'll live there.....
I don't want to get to much more involved here. Enjoy reading your posts though. And must say was really suprised at what little information anyone was saying about Dr. Phil's star Alexandra.
Notice how he and everyone else seems to be moving away from her on the show and focusing on Katherine? He was the one who cut her off a long time ago, now that the other is a train wreck, he brings her back as his shining example. Jeeze.
As much entertainment as it might be to watch on television, the whole family should have stayed away from being followed around. Unless they are getting a major payday ( and i don't think that's the case ).
I will say that i know a few of the people a bit, but have not met Alex. Just going by what i hear and read.
Greenwitch ----- has Erin said what she is afraid for with Alexandra? Notice how there are only about 3 replies to Erin or Katherines blog on DP's board? Probably because of all the censors like Slayer has mentioned.
Guess anything new will have to go through this site, since most others cut everyone with anything negativate to say off at the knees. Nice talking to you all.
Good point re Katherine. What did she do? Got pregnant.I believe Erin is afraid of this guy for domestic violence. I think he went to jail for that, as well as other things. On Phil's board yesterday somebody said they need to consider that Alexandra is possessed by the devil. Right.
Well, I think she hops from man to man because they don't want to have more than one kid with her. Except for Chris, maybe they dump her. Maybe tony did that because she was no use to him. Just theories.
This site is more fun than Phil's anyway.
greenwitch

Brooklyn, NY

#140 Nov 8, 2011
Slayer wrote:
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greenwitch -- kinda guessing that Erin's tweet about Brandon's drug relapse had to do with Brandon's one relapse after completing treatment. I don't think he has relapsed again -- that would be a real shame!
It would be but Phil only talked with Debbie this time. Where was Brandon? It can take a few tries. I wish him well.
WatchingATrainWr eck

Milaca, MN

#141 Nov 9, 2011
I also wish Brandon the best. Thought is strange that he wasn't with Debbie this time.

One thing I was happy to see was that Marty isn't giving Alex money anymore, not that she doesn't try to get it from him. She needs to hit a total rock bottom before she'll try to get help.

I really hope Alex's children do well in life. What a crummy start, to know your mother doesn't care for you, loves drugs and criminals more than she loves them. Good luck to Erin and Marty.

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