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Slayer

Moody, AL

#644 Jan 31, 2012
bobbleheadhere wrote:
This has become unwatchable. I already know what's happening.
As mentioned months before, it was posted that she is in Rehab, paid for by Dr. Phoney.
Only those of us here who read your post, and others who saw it from the original board, knew. Most of DP's viewers who follow this family had no idea. So while it's old news to you, it was unknown to most.
bobbleheadhere wrote:
Now, he decides to start airing this train wreck... Phoney is going to act like alex just went into rehab, when we all know she has been in there since around Thanksgiving.**News Flash, she's still in there.
Most comprehensive rehab for severe addicts like Alex are for at least 90 days, along with after-care, like living in a sober house.

Wonder if Erin has been warned to keep the news private from now on, or face a civil lawsuit for failure to comply with her contract with DP's show?
bobbleheadhere wrote:
Even though i can't stand the family, & am siding with Nina on Dr. Phoney.
Yeah, looks like Nina really has DP's number.
bobbleheadhere wrote:
Seriously, if he cared soooo much for her & her family, why couldn't he just leave well enough alone, pay for the rehab ( he already made enough money off of airing her "life").
Now, he & Erin have a bunch of before rehab videos ---how sick can they get shoving cameras in her face before???? For t.v. profit?
And he is going to lie and make it look like she is waffling on whether or not to go, when she is already there & has been.
You've answered your own question...there will never be enough profit (viewers) for DP. Alex is a ratings cow to be milked as often as possible. Erin was doing her part in the 'set-up' following Alex at her worst to show that she has hit bottom in most peoples' eyes, and has no other choice but rehab. Assuming this wasn't all staged for effect.

Besides, I'd bet that the 'Alex on the streets' video was shot earlier in Nov. before Thanksgiving, and edited for use in the story yet to be aired. Also would bet that DP is going to milk his favorite ratings cow for at least 3-4 episodes before this season ends. And depending on where they want to take this drama, if Alex escapes rehab and wanders the streets of the nearest Texas city/town, we could see a lot more chasing of Alex and convincing her to return.
bobbleheadhere wrote:
Leave the skank alone already. She is there. 90 o/o or more of people that have gone to treatment relapse.
Enough !! I'm sick of seeing her ugly face and her mothers (Erin) every time i turn the channel.
Maybe it's all of the lies by DP, i don't know. Just sick of it already. Move on to another family to destroy. Oh, I mean help.
You may be interested to learn that there are already many comments on this show on DP's message board. You probably won't be surprised to see that many people who have commented agree with you completely -- and recognize this for what it is -- a scandalously shameful ratings drama, and not about saving Alex.
Slayer

Moody, AL

#645 Jan 31, 2012
AmberRed wrote:
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Alex tweeted that the kitten was only 5 weeks old and way too young to be away from its mumma. But what about your kids, you dumped them at your mothers house when they were tiny. Were they too young to be away from their mother. What am I talking about, shes not even a mother
People who love animals usually also are good caretakers of children, but clearly Alex is an exception. I saw some reposts from her Facebook page where Alex claimed she was getting up several times at night to bottle feed the new kitten. Alex appears to want to convince others that she's a good mother while in reality she's the opposite.

In fact, she didn't dump her children; her mother, Erin, had them taken from her for good reasons: Alex wasn't taking even minimal care of them. Nathan was removed b/c Alex refused to comply with an agreement with the biological father and his family. Leilah was removed based on evidence of neglect and probable physical abuse. Michael was taken from Alex based on actual evidence of abuse (drug addiction).

Who knows if 'Noodle' is still even alive now? As outrageous as it sounds, I truly believe that there are real reasons to force sterilization on some women in this country. Alex is a prime example of a female who deserves the procedure. And I don't care how many Topix readers judge my comment with a mean icon -- those would people who care about the mothers' rights to treat a child as a possession, but don't care about the rights of children to live a life free from neglect and abuse.
Watching a Train Wreck

Milaca, MN

#646 Jan 31, 2012
Slayer wrote:
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Who knows if 'Noodle' is still even alive now? As outrageous as it sounds, I truly believe that there are real reasons to force sterilization on some women in this country. Alex is a prime example of a female who deserves the procedure. And I don't care how many Topix readers judge my comment with a mean icon -- those would people who care about the mothers' rights to treat a child as a possession, but don't care about the rights of children to live a life free from neglect and abuse.
I totally agree with you. My opinion has been, for a very long time, that although lip service is given to valuing children in our society, the facts plainly show the opposite. So many cases of child abuse are neglected, ignored, belittled, until the child ends up dead. Those are the extreme cases, but there are plenty others out there where children are not cared for properly, either physically, emotionally, financially, etc and nothing is done about it. And when there are crimes against children, the punishment doesn't fit. I am specifically referring to cases recently where woman will kill their newborns, or a woman's "baby daddy" beats the child and receives a lesser sentence than if it were abuse of an adult. I also believe forced sterilization is needed in these extreme cases.
On another note, Erin's Twitter post of 1/26 pisses me off. "Okay, the news is out..... http://drphil.com/ @DrPhil Next Thursday, February 2nd! Alexandra goes to rehab...but does she stay?" She's Alex's mother, for Pete's sake, not a commercial. What mother talks like that? If she were truly a caring mom, she would have tweeted it in November when it occurred, and asked for prayers, instead of trying to garner TV viewers with this "but does she stay" crap. I tried to be on her side in her trying to get Alex in rehab and her having custody of the kids, but this latest is just garbage. She's no better than DP.
Slayer

Moody, AL

#647 Jan 31, 2012
Watching a Train Wreck wrote:
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And when there are crimes against children, the punishment doesn't fit. I am specifically referring to cases recently where woman will kill their newborns, or a woman's "baby daddy" beats the child and receives a lesser sentence than if it were abuse of an adult. I also believe forced sterilization is needed in these extreme cases.
ITA! I've not needed to intervene to protect my son, now grown, from any abusive male friend or relative, but I know myself well enough to know what I'd do if I saw, or was convinced, there was abuse of him. I would SNAP! All waking hours would be devoted to revenge! The man would be advised to never fall asleep in my presence for the rest of his life, b/c he wouldn't survive to see the dawn! Some people are beyond redemption, and deserve the death penalty, b/c it's not within their ability to change. If the liberal bleeding hearts judges can't do the right thing, a lifetime in jail is a small price to pay for true justice. Any jury with even one woman on it, might not convict an accused person who truly believed what they did was justified, and their actions protected future victims.
Watching a Train Wreck wrote:
On another note, Erin's Twitter post of 1/26 pisses me off. "Okay, the news is out..... http://drphil.com/ @DrPhil Next Thursday, February 2nd! Alexandra goes to rehab...but does she stay?" She's Alex's mother, for Pete's sake, not a commercial. What mother talks like that?
Erin is doing her part to keep viewers emotionally hooked on Alex's story. DP's head probably exploded when he found out Erin was answering some questions via Twitter re: Alex's status previously.
AmberRed

Eatons Hill, Australia

#648 Jan 31, 2012
Slayer wrote:
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People who love animals usually also are good caretakers of children, but clearly Alex is an exception. I saw some reposts from her Facebook page where Alex claimed she was getting up several times at night to bottle feed the new kitten. Alex appears to want to convince others that she's a good mother while in reality she's the opposite.
In fact, she didn't dump her children; her mother, Erin, had them taken from her for good reasons: Alex wasn't taking even minimal care of them. Nathan was removed b/c Alex refused to comply with an agreement with the biological father and his family. Leilah was removed based on evidence of neglect and probable physical abuse. Michael was taken from Alex based on actual evidence of abuse(drug addiction)and abuse.
Who knows if 'Noodle' is still even alive now? As outrageous as it sounds, I truly believe that there are real reasons to force sterilization on some women in this country. Alex is a prime example of a female who deserves the procedure. And I don't care how many Topix readers judge my comment with a mean icon -- those would people who care about the mothers' rights to treat a child as a possession, but don't care about the rights of children to live a life free from neglectIdont think you're mean, I totally agree. Ive posted before that I was sickened when Alex tweeted she was tired from giving her cat a bottle during the night twice. I'll bet poor little Anthony Michael was up many more times that with his health problems. Not one redeeming feature about Alex's parenting skills. Its like she's playing with dolls and stuffed animals. Took them to pawn and thrift stores when she was done. But what the! They were real babies. But I'll bet she has more, 5 or 6 seems to be the norm for her fb friends. Lots of dadda's and lots of lost custody. But lots of "I love my kids" messages. Yeah your kids gonna be so grateful you loved em on FB but werent there to wipe their nose or read them a story.
Slayer

Birmingham, AL

#649 Feb 1, 2012
AmberRed wrote:
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I dont think you're mean, I totally agree. Ive posted before that I was sickened when Alex tweeted she was tired from giving her cat a bottle during the night twice. I'll bet poor little Anthony Michael was up many more times that with his health problems.
I probably got the info about the kitten's bottle feeding from your posts.
AmberRed wrote:
Not one redeeming feature about Alex's parenting skills. Its like she's playing with dolls and stuffed animals. Took them to pawn and thrift stores when she was done. But what the! They were real babies. But I'll bet she has more, 5 or 6 seems to be the norm for her fb friends. Lots of dadda's and lots of lost custody. But lots of "I love my kids" messages. Yeah your kids gonna be so grateful you loved em on FB but werent there to wipe their nose or read them a story.
Any idiot can post on FB what great mothers they are, and typing and posting that you love your kids means nothing while they're hanging onto your leg with dirty diapers, hungry, and also starving for attention. WTF is right!

While I hope Alex doesn't have more babies, you're right, chances are she will -- b/c the welfare money and other govt benefits depend on there being children in the home. Katherine has learned that lesson real well. The kind of men these two girls choose are the ones who know how to work the system for welfare dollars & free social services to supplement their own drug-dealing income -- why marry the baby mommy when they lose all or most of the welfare money when they do. That's why I'm not convinced Katherine will marry baby Paul's sperm donor. Daddy Paul can live with Katherine while she subsists on welfare $ and her parents' gifts.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#650 Feb 1, 2012
Man Erin is totally insane...

Her Twit post on Jan 26th was bad enough... " Alex goes to Rehab...... BUT does she stay ? "

Pimp her out much?

Then to have the gall to mention something about Demi Moore, who i have a serious suspicioun Erin DOES NOT KNOW PERSONALLY... Yet she Twits " Demi Moore Exaustion, Seriously ??? Addiction is everywhere Stop Enabling, Stop Deneying, Stop Covering up " !!!

Are You Serious????

For Fucks sake !!!!!

You are pimping out your own daughter FOR RATINGS & MONEY From Dr. Phoney !!!!!!!!

Look in the Fucking mirror, before you start trying to guess about actual "Celebrities" (Demi Moore).

And for everyone else, believe me, I will have the REAL info about this for you very Soon.

Watching what Erin posts is seriously busting my gut laughing at her ignorance.
greenwitch

Saint Paul, MN

#651 Feb 1, 2012
bobbleheadhere wrote:
Man Erin is totally insane...
Her Twit post on Jan 26th was bad enough... " Alex goes to Rehab...... BUT does she stay ? "
Pimp her out much?
Then to have the gall to mention something about Demi Moore, who i have a serious suspicioun Erin DOES NOT KNOW PERSONALLY... Yet she Twits " Demi Moore Exaustion, Seriously ??? Addiction is everywhere Stop Enabling, Stop Deneying, Stop Covering up " !!!
Are You Serious????
For Fucks sake !!!!!
You are pimping out your own daughter FOR RATINGS & MONEY From Dr. Phoney !!!!!!!!
Look in the Fucking mirror, before you start trying to guess about actual "Celebrities" (Demi Moore).
And for everyone else, believe me, I will have the REAL info about this for you very Soon.
Watching what Erin posts is seriously busting my gut laughing at her ignorance.
Well, if nothing else she's got religion. She probably wishes Alex could be Demi Moore's roommate at that place.Does anybody know if this show will be on YouTube after tomorrow?
AmberRed

Eatons Hill, Australia

#652 Feb 1, 2012
Slayer wrote:
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I probably got the info about the kitten's bottle feeding from your posts.
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Any idiot can post on FB what great mothers they are, and typing and posting that you love your kids means nothing while they're hanging onto your leg with dirty diapers, hungry, and also starving for attention. WTF is right!
While I hope Alex doesn't have more babies, you're right, chances are she will -- b/c the welfare money and other govt benefits depend on there being children in the home. Katherine has learned that lesson real well. The kind of men these two girls choose are the ones who know how to work the system for welfare dollars & free social services to supplement their own drug-dealing income -- why marry the baby mommy when they lose all or most of the welfare money when they do. That's why I'm not convinced Katherine will marry baby Paul's sperm donor. Daddy Paul can live with Katherine while she subsists on welfare $ and her parents' gifts.
I love my kids and I dont need to say that on FB. In my world we love our kids AND look after them. Thats the norm for most but theres section of society all over the world that have the kids and think its their right that someone else raise them. Ive heard of families that use Child Protective Services as a weapon when they argue with people. Grandmas that smoke pot with their Grandbabies in the same room. People leaving their kids in their cot all day while they party outside. It sickens me when people mess up children in this way and keep having them. Dont want to spend time with them but have them. Read on a facebook page an aquaintance of Alex "that form now on Ill always put my kids first." WOW dumbass, did you not think of that before you had them. But then again, loser, Alex still hasnt made that revelation. It'll be still me me me when she gets out of rehab. We wont see todays show in Australia for months. Please if anyone from the USA watches it PLEASE dont tell me she gets a standing ovation or a present from DP, I'll need a toilet to puke in
AmberRed

Eatons Hill, Australia

#653 Feb 1, 2012
Giving the kitten a bottle during the night was on an old tweet. So pathetic.
I dont really care about Katherine. She's smart enough to change her privacy settings is all I know. Marty was selfish for not encouraging Alex to give up Nathan for adoption. He does all the boy stuff with him he couldnt do with the girls. Actually Im wondering whether Marty wouldve agreed to give up Anthony Michael for adoption if he was a girl?
Slayer

Birmingham, AL

#654 Feb 2, 2012
AmberRed wrote:
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We wont see todays show in Australia for months. Please if anyone from the USA watches it PLEASE dont tell me she gets a standing ovation or a present from DP, I'll need a toilet to puke in
Can you get the video clips and written highlights from Dr. Phil's web site? That's almost as good as seeing the entire show.

ITA! If Alex had chosen rehab, when it was first revealed that she was abusing prescription pain meds, she would have deserved applause. After all these years of being chased, and bribed, and warned, and pleaded with, and counseled, that she needs rehab, for what, over 5-6 years now, she doesn't deserve any congratulations, and especially no extravagant gifts.

Only things that should be provided for her following rehab is bare, subsistence living arrangements; anything beyond that she would just sell for drug money when she relapses -- which, hope she doesn't, but the odds are against her.

Alex is a willful, proud, arrogant, and stubborn person, if she could only use that strong will to stay sober, she could succeed. Too often we've seen her selfishness and desire for an easy, fun, sex-filled existence override what should be common sense and the obvious choice. This is what makes her so maddening to watch.
Slayer

Birmingham, AL

#655 Feb 2, 2012
bobbleheadhere wrote:
And for everyone else, believe me, I will have the REAL info about this for you very Soon.
Watching what Erin posts is seriously busting my gut laughing at her ignorance.
From whomever you're getting inside info, I just hope Erin doesn't become so paranoid that she stops talking to everyone around her. Or, if this 'inside' person is so close to the family that they can see what's going on, that may be the only way to get the real info out.

Isn't it amusing what Erin's twitter posts reveal about the way she sees herself and her family? She identifies Alex's problems with those of a celebrity, Demi Moore. Next, she'll be comparing her need to lose some lbs and tighten up to Marie Osmond.
Slayer

Birmingham, AL

#656 Feb 2, 2012
AmberRed wrote:
<quoted text>It'll be still me me me when she gets out of rehab. We wont see todays show in Australia for months.
Yeah, I know I suggesting looking at the show on the web, but I just did view some of the video clips and there has been a change that started this year: every little clip is preceded by a commercial! That didn't use to happen -- man, DP, sure is obsessed with padding his pockets!
Slayer

Birmingham, AL

#657 Feb 2, 2012
Just read a few of the comments from today's show on Alex's Rehab: one person wrote that addicts are nothing but victims of doctors that over-prescribe pain meds. Hello? If the patient took the medication as directed on the label, they wouldn't be taking enough to get a 'high' or become addicted. It's people like Alex who seek a feeling of euphoria, who crush the pills and snort them rather than taking the 1-2 by mouth along with food, who become addicted. Don't give me it's not their fault crap!

Any of you ever wonder what being high on meth feels like? I've heard you can work for days straight without feeling tired. There are times I'd like to do that, but knowing that meth is one of the most addictive substances ever developed kinda stops me from trying it! How about you?
DrPepperOK

Lindsay, OK

#658 Feb 2, 2012
I had no idea Katherine had a baby... Is the birth and her story online anywhere? Boy or Girl?
Slayer

Birmingham, AL

#659 Feb 2, 2012
DrPepperOK wrote:
I had no idea Katherine had a baby... Is the birth and her story online anywhere? Boy or Girl?
Go to Dr. Phil's web site, choose 'Show Archive' along top, select shows from November 2011, select 'Alexandra's Admissions'(early Nov.). All the info on Katherine's first baby is at the end. Katherine's not married but she's starting a family anyway.
Vey Vey

Toronto, Canada

#660 Feb 2, 2012
I think that Alex is emotionally very young. Her mother seems to have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. She has no love whatever for Alex, but is beginning to become an actress pretending to care about her. Why did she leave Alex alone at rehab --so that she could hurt and undermine her. Usually Dr. Phil is very on, but regarding Alex, I find him snowed by the mother and unfair.

Alex is desperate for love and support. She is incapable of giving to her children what she never received herself. That fundamental problem must be addressed compassionately. It is a pity that Alex still hopes that Aaron can be trusted. She clearly is the worst enemy this young woman has.

Since: Nov 11

Location hidden

#661 Feb 2, 2012
Slayer wrote:
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From whomever you're getting inside info, I just hope Erin doesn't become so paranoid that she stops talking to everyone around her. Or, if this 'inside' person is so close to the family that they can see what's going on, that may be the only way to get the real info out.
Isn't it amusing what Erin's twitter posts reveal about the way she sees herself and her family? She identifies Alex's problems with those of a celebrity, Demi Moore. Next, she'll be comparing her need to lose some lbs and tighten up to Marie Osmond.
Slayer :^^^^ Don't worry. Erin and Company can not keep the truth hidden. Although, i did wonder if they would try to put the clamp on the leak, but they can't. and they never will be able to. HAHAHA

It is nice to know though that everything I told you guys came out. Loved how Erin said "Here in Texas".

Not to seem up in the clouds (like Erin), but i really wonder just how much of this page Dr. Phoney and his staff are reading. Notice how most of the talk and questions he asked and posed to Erin were almost direct questions we have asked on here.

I will say that Alex isstill there, although a relapse is pretty much guaranteed.

Sorry for those who hoped she'd make it, but her pull to the ....undesirables/same people as her pre-rehab is way too strong.

And for the last person who posted.. Very Very ????: you are pretty much right on with what you said. I know others have said about the same also, but i've said it before & will say it again. Erin is screwed up. You only see a tad of her anger, it is insane. The marriage is a mess, her other kid is a mess, and Phoney would have been beter off just wraping this up with "The Day Has Finally Come Alex is in Rehab". As scummy as i feel Phoney is, he really should drop this story and try to leave his "Viewers" in the dark thinking he did the trick. JMO.

Though the smart ones over here know the truth....lol

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#662 Feb 2, 2012
Great scoop, bobbleheadhere! I'm de-lurking to ask a few questions that you may be able to get the answers to:

1) Why was Alex homeless before she entered rehab if she was with Howard? On the show today they said she didn't want to lose her boyfriend and Howard's fb profile pic is still of the two of them. On another note, through fb I found out that Howard's wife, Holly, is back in jail!

2) What exactly was Alex using? We know oxycodone for sure, but I've read online that she was also doing crack and meth and on DP they initially said Michael was born addicted to methamphetamine. There was also the "smoking a boat" reference on the show.

3) Was Alex prostituting to get drug money? It's been alluded to and it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. I wonder if that's what we're supposed to find shocking on the next episode?
AmberRed

Eatons Hill, Australia

#663 Feb 3, 2012
katie kate wrote:
Great scoop, bobbleheadhere! I'm de-lurking to ask a few questions that you may be able to get the answers to:
1) Why was Alex homeless before she entered rehab if she was with Howard? On the show today they said she didn't want to lose her boyfriend and Howard's fb profile pic is still of the two of them. On another note, through fb I found out that Howard's wife, Holly, is back in jail!
2) What exactly was Alex using? We know oxycodone for sure, but I've read online that she was also doing crack and meth and on DP they initially said Michael was born addicted to methamphetamine. There was also the "smoking a boat" reference on the show.
3) Was Alex prostituting to get drug money? It's been alluded to and it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. I wonder if that's what we're supposed to find shocking on the next episode?
Wow is Holly back in Jail. I wonder why? I havent found it yet. Howard has two facebook profiles and one lists him as single and the other one still has him and Alex on it. I had a neighbour who over 20 years ago was a heroin addict. He told me that he had friends who were hard core addicts that wouldnt touch meth coz it was instantly addictive, caused insanity and was the worst of the worse. Funny how heroin addicts 20 years ago wouldnt touch the stuff. Different these days, hey. I seen the clips from Nove 7th on you tube. I'll just have to wait abit to watch Feb 2nd episodes on you tube. Who said that they wanted to Nathan grown up and punching Alex in the face? Id really like to see that too.

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