Should bounty hunting be legalised in the UK?

[Luke Mcintyre]

i think so they will bring down repeat offenders and give the police more tome to deal with preventing crime and going to acutual crime sights not chasing after escaped convicts

[Lee Kennedy]

If the government could monitor it under the Security Industry Authority to make sure only people vetted with the necessary background and training I think it would allow the Police to investigate crimes.But in order to do this criminals would have to be able to post bail, which would allow more space in our prisons as not so many offenders would be held on remand. Bail Bonds would be raised, creating more jobs and revenue for the government and Bounty Hunters would then be needed to capture absconders. So from a financial view point it makes sense.

[Not Brainwashed]

You must also consider....do you wish your police to chase criminals as they (the police) will hold the interest of the "people" above all else, or a Bounty Hunter that holds the prize/reward/bounty above all else; as the Chapmans did when they disregarded the laws of the land and put local civilians at risk. They ran red lights and waited for the bounty to appear in an area that they could grab him as well as get good camera angles.(witness describes it as a busy time with about 80 people in the area when they could have grabbed him in a hotel parking lot at an earlier time).

Do you wish strangers banging on your door because someone said you were an acquaintance to their bounty? Do you wish these strangers running over your property, climbing your fences, racing through your streets, shining bright lights into your homes, cars, and faces? Who are these “strangers”? Duane Chapman is an convicted Felon….do you wish ex-criminals chasing other people for profit? What if you got in their way? Their motivation is money/greed not the well being of the community.

[Not Brainwashed]

Luke Mcintyre wrote:

i think so they will bring down repeat offenders and give the police more tome to deal with preventing crime and going to acutual crime sights not chasing after escaped convicts

I don't understand how they will "bring down repeat offenders" they don't chase people for breaking any laws other than “bond” violations (like not calling into the bondsman’s office once a week), having a cosigner back out of the obligation, or not abiding by court ordered obligations/instructions (court dates, classes, paying support/restitution).

[NB-Canada viewer]

I don't think that Dog did anything unethical. He arrested Luster as a bounty hunter, and bounty hunting isn't legal in Mexico. In the US and Canada we have something called a "citizen's arrest", and you don't need a badge to do it; you wouldn't be breaking any law. Mexican law is primitive and doesn't protect good people. So I have no respect for Mexico's laws. Some people want to have Dog hanged because he broke Mexican law. If the incident would have happened on US soil, Dog wouldn't have broken any law. So those who want to uphold Mexico's laws at all cost, it only shows that you lack good judgement. If this would have happened in Iraq, would you still point the finger at Dog and say "hang him"? As far as the bail jumping is concerned, I also feel that Dog did the right thing. If the Mexican law system is so weird, then he probably thought that he had no chance of getting a fair trial. The prison system in Mexico is still in the Dark Ages; guards spit and piss in your rotten food. And every Gringo that knows you are a law person wants to kill you. Dog knew that he would not have made it in those dungeons. So I would have done the same; run! The US gov't owes the Mexican gov't nothing, so why was Dog arrested in his home in the US in the first place? It's all politics. The Mexicans said "you give us Dog and we'll owe you big time".

[Not Brainwashed]

Same post on multi threads....

so here is my response again:

First, Bounty Hunting is illegal in Canada and they have locked up Americans for doing so.

Second, Citizens arrest....means calling the police immediately and working with them....The Chapmans were headed for the airport.

Third, Bond Jumping why do you think the habitual traffic offenders and others {that the Chapmans chase} jump bond? Because they are afraid of the system. The Chapmans can’t use that excuse….The Chapmans know the system and Duane himself and his attorney said in Dec 2006 on Larry King:

KING: We have an e-mail from Kim, in Fairborn, Ohio.
“"Has this situation changed your feelings about our justice system?"

B. CHAPMAN: Not our justice system. We're not being judged by our justice system.

KING: Mexican justice system?

D. CHAPMAN: No, I was in Mexico jail and I know the Mexico justice system. And if you prove to the Mexico justice system that you had a reason and you dealt with it right, they're human beings. I mean, and I'm not just saying that. I was there. I saw it in work. I have confidence and faith in it.

KING: Can you argue in a Mexican court?

BOLLARD: I can be there as a consultant and they accept argument from me frequently.

But let me say this. We have every faith and confidence that we're going to get a fair shake, a fair trial. We put our faith and confidence now in the federal Mexican judicial system. I've worked with it many years under the Federal Judicial Council. And we expect a fair shake.

Forth, Your comment about it being alright for the Chapmans to break Mexican law is a comment with no thought behind it.
Is it alright for anyone to pick and chose what laws they break or agree with without consequence?
Is it alright for people from China, Brazil, Italy, England, France, Libya, Pakistan, Iran, or any other country to come into the U.S. and act just like the Chapmans grabbing people (men/women) they feel are criminals off a crowded street and just leave without any coordination, authorization, or knowledge of our government? What laws are they allowed to break…..if the police are called, should they respond? Arrest someone? If our police arrest these people and they run back to their home country should we not ask for their return?

Fifth, Our government arrested and will turn over the Chapmans because there is an international agreement, and celebrity will hopefully not protect them, Mexico has turned over many requested criminals to the U.S to include a murderer on a Denver police officer. Mexico worked with the U.S. apprehended and turned him over. Mexico didn’t have to turn Luster over, it was their choice…the Chapmans had NO SAY at that point due to their law breaking, they were locked up for their crimes. The Chapmans could have botched everything by breaking the laws……what do they do to a suspect in the U.S. if it was determined his rights were violated?

Sixtht, Yes, you must abide by Iraqi law if you are in their country, difference you might not be allowed to bond out (so the Chapmans would have been able to run) and they may have just lost their heads (not a big loss in their case)

I just find these excuses and line of thinking thoughtless, without fact, research, or forethought.

I hope the others don't mind: Thank you for playing!

[Lazza]

In Britain, the law says that the court can award a citizen with a warrant for the arrest of a fugitive from the law if this is deemed appropriate. However I do not believe this person recieves any special privelages and must still obey the law and make only a citizen's arrest.
I think I heard that this dates back to medieval times when the police encouraged ordinary citizen's to help apprehend criminal's. But that was a long time ago and the last thing we need today is droves of vigilanties pretending to be "The Dog". Bounty hunting could work if the Hunters were properly trained and legally sanctioned.

[scott kerr]

i think it shud be allowed as it wud stop repeat affenders and give police more time and units to assist in helping others.

[Dave]

Definately.

The police are so tied up dealing with paperwork etc there is nobody catching the crooks.

[Dogpriest]

Definatly

Actually i just sent a message to the Met asking why this service is not running, I agree that we should get the criminals they don't have time for, and the money saved would be noticed, one lump sum to a bounty hunter, could save the police time and money.

I explained to them that i see people nearly everyday who knows someone or is someone who boast about having a warrent out for them.

And this country need people like you and i who would do this service. And i will carry on to make this legal.

And for the record my tag was dogpriest before i knew of Dog, just before anyone starts ; )

[mark mcgrath]

i feel that bounty hunting should be legalised in the united kingdom as its a rewarding job
i know its also risky and dangerous but thats the nature of the job

im a united kingdom citizen myself but i feel our government is always complaining unemployment this and umemployment that well there is a simple solution to this legalise bounty hunting as a lot of people want to do this job

[Dogman]

The Mighty Dog weighs in now to end this discussion - Bounty hunting should be legal all over the world!! Manhunts, as the Dog prefers to call these things, are the greatest sport of all - unless you've hunted down that most dangerous of predators - the Misdemeanor Bail Jumper - you haven't lived, comprendo Duderino's? And think of the revenues here (Dog always has an eye on the potential green in any situtuation, you know that!) we could record capers all over the world - run-downs in Africa, Australia, Austria - Team Dog's ready to go - unleash the Dog! Where ever crime raises it's ugly face, there's where you'll find the Mighty Dog and his awesome weapons! And trust me on this - the Dog'll personnaly garuntee human rights will not be violated! I've got my Beth working right now on a collection of citizen rights from all over the world. So wherever we go, Leland just flips to the page and there it is - citizen's rights to be protected!! Team Dog's ready, I tell ya!! Only criminals and commies would object to this!

[christieavon]

Boy the more and more I hear you talk the more and more familiar you sound. I bet I know who taught you to change your IP because a real man like Dog never hides where he is. We all know you are barely human much less male

[Fake]

christieavon wrote:

Boy the more and more I hear you talk the more and more familiar you sound. I bet I know who taught you to change your IP because a real man like Dog never hides where he is. We all know you are barely human much less male

Real talk!

[dallas]

I'm sat here waiting for a bus and thought i'd google this. And with this I thought I would reccomend something to all you armchair warriors. Private investigators?? Heard of em? The jobs harder then being a hunter, pays more, and it might as well be bounty hunting, the only difference is some scrapping and dirty tactics in bounty hunters, and if you feel the need to argue this visit www.idontgiveaflyingfuck.co.uk ...have a nice day

[PCSO Richard Tooth]

Bounty hunting should be legalized in the United Kingdom, because we have a police service that doesn't deal with criminals anymore. I live in London so you can probably understand why we need Bounty Hunters to deal with bail skipping Yobs, Sex Offenders who failed to register the sex offenders register, bail violators that try to leave the uk and benefit thieves.

[Phill]

Dogman wrote:

The Mighty Dog weighs in now to end this discussion - Bounty hunting should be legal all over the world!! Manhunts, as the Dog prefers to call these things, are the greatest sport of all - unless you've hunted down that most dangerous of predators - the Misdemeanor Bail Jumper - you haven't lived, comprendo Duderino's? And think of the revenues here (Dog always has an eye on the potential green in any situtuation, you know that!) we could record capers all over the world - run-downs in Africa, Australia, Austria - Team Dog's ready to go - unleash the Dog! Where ever crime raises it's ugly face, there's where you'll find the Mighty Dog and his awesome weapons! And trust me on this - the Dog'll personnaly garuntee human rights will not be violated! I've got my Beth working right now on a collection of citizen rights from all over the world. So wherever we go, Leland just flips to the page and there it is - citizen's rights to be protected!! Team Dog's ready, I tell ya!! Only criminals and commies would object to this!

i agree 100% with what you say it should be legalised all around the globe i live in england and work as a badged door supervisor which is the closest thing we can get (with out becoming a police officer) to protecting people and dealing with the law breakers that we come across in our line of work not only would i devote every second of time to doing the job but just like you i would make sure that it doesnt violate human rights just like the dog i think we should be badged and legalised to stop any wanabes getting in over they're heads messing with the wrong people and ending up in hospital or worse, not only would we be creating time for the police to deal with more important matters and creating more jobs across the globe but we would also be protecting the people that rely on us!! personaly i have allways wanted to go and work for da kine bail bonds and if i thought i stood a chance of getting a job ther i would be on the next flight over with out a second thought, i only hope that one day i can meet the chapman family and express my apreciation for what they do and they people they save in most cases saving them from themselves

[Phill]

even if the "dogman" is a fake he still raised some good points, and as for psco he has hit the nail on the head with regards of the sort of people out ther that try to skip out on the law hoping they wont get caught, my "dad" if u can call him that is on the register for something he has done which i wont go into online but every thought of him sickens me and i personaly would want to make sure that they are dealt with properly to prevent them re ofending and ruining other peoples lives

[Sparx sw]

if i remember corectly LAZZA was corect about a civilian being awarded the right to, for lack of a better word "hunt" a fugitive and they wer not granted any special privilages but as regards the arrest procedure they wer allowed to arrest the person in question but had to return them to the apropriate place wher the judge had decided. i relation to the arrest procedure today a citizens arrest does not have a time limit as many people have been lead to wrongly believe but!the police must be informed of the arrest and you may hold the person as long as it takes for the police to arrive however you must clearly state to the person (it may be better to have a witness for you) that they are under arrest untill the police arrive, because if you do not state this fact the person under arrest can legaly press criminal charges against you for breach of ther human rights, as regards handcuffs i personaly hold the qualifictions to carry and use handcuffs in my line of work however i am not permited to carry them or use them in public other then when i am working, i hope this has answerd any queries some of you may have or have had.

personaly i beieve that legalising "bounty hunting" in the uk could be extremly beneficial not only in the case of creating alot more jobs in the uk but also easing the strain and stress that the police have in dealing with petty problems that the courts could hand over to people willing to do the job how ever i also believe that the people doing this job would have to be properly trained and licsenced in acordance with the S.I.A Security Industies Authority who also liscence security gaurds, door supervisors and people involved in close protection.
personaly if a petition was started today i would sign up help in anyway i could to legalise bounty hunting in the uk, the only reason i have not started a petition is because i dont have the first clue of wher to send it or how many people i would have to get to sign up haha

[Sparx sw]

just before i forget ther is now a petition underway if u would like to add your name and details then yo have to check your e-mail to confirm it because your signature will not be couted if you dont confirm hope you all sign this petition and thank you for putting in the time and effort to do so
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/bailenforcem...