Few options for Obama to fix cancella...

Few options for Obama to fix cancellations problem

There are 57 comments on the SFGate story from Nov 9, 2013, titled Few options for Obama to fix cancellations problem. In it, SFGate reports that:

President Barack Obama speaks about the economy, Friday, Nov. 8, 2013, at the Port of New Orleans.

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Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#23 Nov 9, 2013
Again, the issue is clear. Those of you complaining aren't familiar with the term Grandfathered....... it's simple.

That's a reading and interpretation matter.

Purchasing insurance at the beginning of 2013 thinking it could be protected under the Grandfather clause of a law signed in 2010 is evidence of an uneducated consumer.

The insurers who sold those plans knew the day they took those consumers money those plans were going to have to be changed and didn't qualify to be grandfathered under the clause.

Are the Insurance Salesmen supposed to read to those consumers their declaration page? What happen to person responsibility?
LookingToEscape wrote:
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The issue is, the grand fathering guaranteed you would lose your policy in favor of what Barack Obama and the Democrats think you need.
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That is the point, Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi decided what you needed, not yourself.
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By the way, does a 70 year old man need maternity benefits?
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A minor change in your current policy removes the grandfather clause. This was intended to create a cross subsidy scheme, a racket in which you pay insurance for others (except in the case of smokers).
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How about if Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi decided your current car in which you hardly use wasn't safe enough and for the sake of safety you must buy a Mercedes-Benz and at a price to subsidize other drivers who drive everyday?

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#24 Nov 9, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Again, the issue is clear. Those of you complaining aren't familiar with the term Grandfathered....... it's simple.
That's a reading and interpretation matter.
Purchasing insurance at the beginning of 2013 thinking it could be protected under the Grandfather clause of a law signed in 2010 is evidence of an uneducated consumer.
The insurers who sold those plans knew the day they took those consumers money those plans were going to have to be changed and didn't qualify to be grandfathered under the clause.
Are the Insurance Salesmen supposed to read to those consumers their declaration page? What happen to person responsibility?
<quoted text>
Sorry, your are defending Barack Obama and the Democrats barging into the lives of others and telling them what to do. THERE is where the problem starts, not the insurance companies or the polices.
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According to the Democrats, you're supposed to stay out of other's bedrooms, in every other aspect the Democrats free to tell you what to do.
Ted Tuna

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#26 Nov 9, 2013
carey529 wrote:
fix it????
he PLANNED it!
C529! wanne more ITea?!!;-000
Ted Tuna

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#27 Nov 9, 2013
RustyS wrote:
I hope he tells us the one of how great were doing, the average person makes more under Him and once obamacare is fully implemented (maybe by 2019) that's when we'll really see the savings. I like that speech.
blame on PATboy Obamarine speeches typooo!!!;-000h, Dr. Obama just a reader!;)

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#29 Nov 9, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
Millions of people have had their health insurance policies without warning. It is true however that these policies did not meet minimal criteria for a legal health plan, and that these people will be able to get much better coverage for the same money or less..........
Larry, seriously?

"these people will be able to get much better coverage for the same money or less"

That's just funny shit right there. Why not tell us every working person will save an average of $2500 on our health insurance. You know, when obamacare really kicks in.

In reality, projections showed double-digit increase in 42 of 50 states over the next 4 years. The average cost increase nationwide is 32%.(An increase means it goes up)

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#30 Nov 9, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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Larry, seriously?
"these people will be able to get much better coverage for the same money or less"
That's just funny shit right there. Why not tell us every working person will save an average of $2500 on our health insurance. You know, when obamacare really kicks in.
In reality, projections showed double-digit increase in 42 of 50 states over the next 4 years. The average cost increase nationwide is 32%.(An increase means it goes up)
Just think what the increase would be without Obamacare, if you would like to be honest with yourself. With the old system, premium payments have been skyrocketing out of control. You seem to be unwilling to acknowledge that part of the story.
Tweeeters 101

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#31 Nov 9, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Just think what the increase would be without Obamacare, if you would like to be honest with yourself. With the old system, premium payments have been skyrocketing out of control. You seem to be unwilling to acknowledge that part of the story.
Wolf! U got the Bed-bug bacteria and game OVER!! Rusty IS not!;) So do U hav to lecture Rustea??????????;-00
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#32 Nov 10, 2013
9/26/2006

Workers won’t find much comfort in the smallest increase in health insurance premiums since 1999.

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The 7.7 percent increase this year was still more than twice the rate of inflation.

“To working people and business owners, a reduction in an already very high rate of increase just means you’re still paying more,” said Dr. Drew Altman, president and chief executive officer of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health care research organization that annually tracks the cost of health insurance.

Altman said the rising gap between premium growth and wages is particularly startling when one takes a longer look back. Since 2000, health insurance premiums have gone up 78 percent; wages 20 percent.

Overall, the total cost of health insurance for individuals now averages $4,242 a year. For families, the costs average a whopping $11,480.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#33 Nov 10, 2013
As it stands now many will end up divorcing to get the subsidies and work to the point that they don't lose the subsidies. In the 1970's there were the stories of some of the elderly eating cat food that ran on the news. This is going to return with a vengeance as the economy declines in real terms.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#34 Nov 10, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Just think what the increase would be without Obamacare, if you would like to be honest with yourself. With the old system, premium payments have been skyrocketing out of control. You seem to be unwilling to acknowledge that part of the story.
You have it figured out Larry. No question about it, honestly, we we're looking at single digit increases in premium costs. Now, with obamacare, we're looking at double digit increases. I don't know that could happen. I mean we added 2700 pages of vague government regulations and added 30 million people who didn't have insurance and, WTF, costs went up faster than ever. Seriously, who could have possibly seen that coming. You guys keep up the good work.
Larry

Zephyrhills, FL

#35 Nov 11, 2013
Obama's a Lying sack of Turds
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#36 Nov 11, 2013
This rebuttal has absolutely nothing to do with those of you confused about the issued policies after March 2010 not being protected by the grandfather clause in the law.

That's simply a fact of the intellectual divide between the two parties.

Not having a command of routine contract language is proof those individuals should not sign onto insurance services without a capable adult to assist them in comprehending what is written in the insurance contract.

That's a fact of not being intelligent enough to purchase insurance by themselves.

LookingToEscape wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, your are defending Barack Obama and the Democrats barging into the lives of others and telling them what to do. THERE is where the problem starts, not the insurance companies or the polices.
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According to the Democrats, you're supposed to stay out of other's bedrooms, in every other aspect the Democrats free to tell you what to do.

“I love science alot”

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#37 Nov 11, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>If you purchased Insurance in the last 15 years in the Individual Market you'd not be confused and know cancellations has been a standard operating procedures used by the insurance companies to plurg individuals annually, when that year contract is completed, who had developed conditions requiring medical treatment and services.

that was the reason Health Care was reformed.
That sounds great on paper! I still don't see the reform though.
bottlecap

Tampa, FL

#38 Nov 11, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
This rebuttal has absolutely nothing to do with those of you confused about the issued policies after March 2010 not being protected by the grandfather clause in the law.
That's simply a fact of the intellectual divide between the two parties.
Not having a command of routine contract language is proof those individuals should not sign onto insurance services without a capable adult to assist them in comprehending what is written in the insurance contract.
That's a fact of not being intelligent enough to purchase insurance by themselves.
<quoted text>
What a bunch of crap!!! The dems are complaining about their voters as being too stupid to get a picture ID.

Heck, if their was an Intelligence Test for voting, the dems would go the way of the dinosaurs. The BOTTOM LINE is that Millions of Americans HAD Policies they liked and paid for and Obama, elected thru fascist media propaganda, stole those policies.
bottlecap

Tampa, FL

#39 Nov 11, 2013
MaIi Boo wrote:
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That sounds great on paper! I still don't see the reform though.
It is not about "reform"; it is about advancing the cause of fascism.

"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

Benito Mussolini

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#40 Nov 11, 2013
bottlecap wrote:
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What a bunch of crap!!! The dems are complaining about their voters as being too stupid to get a picture ID.
Heck, if their was an Intelligence Test for voting, the dems would go the way of the dinosaurs. The BOTTOM LINE is that Millions of Americans HAD Policies they liked and paid for and Obama, elected thru fascist media propaganda, stole those policies.
yeah, those are the 47% that Romney warned us about. When the history of the rise and fall of the US is written, in Spanish no less, Obama and his 'care' will get most of the credit for the decline and fall.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#41 Nov 11, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
Millions of people have had their health insurance policies without warning. It is true however that these policies did not meet minimal criteria for a legal health plan, and that these people will be able to get much better coverage for the same money or less.
But many of us are asking, what do these people do in the meantime? What if something catastrophic happens to someone who is not covered? I think the Fed should step in and find a way to give these people temporary coverage until this gap is resolved. I would suggest considering an intermediate plan along the lines of Medicare.
Most of the folks I know who have lost or are losing their insurance have nothing to do with the story you are telling. There are many who have/are lost/losing policies they've had for years which have become unaffordable BECAUSE of oscumma. The liberal spin can not change this reality.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#42 Nov 11, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Just think what the increase would be without Obamacare, if you would like to be honest with yourself. With the old system, premium payments have been skyrocketing out of control. You seem to be unwilling to acknowledge that part of the story.
They have been skyrocketing BECAUSE of oscumma. I've never seen increases like this EVER before. This pos prez wants people to lose their plans so they will be forced to accept his healthcare plan. That's the way this pos dirtbag works.
bottlecap

Tampa, FL

#43 Nov 11, 2013
inbred Genius wrote:
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yeah, those are the 47% that Romney warned us about. When the history of the rise and fall of the US is written, in Spanish no less, Obama and his 'care' will get most of the credit for the decline and fall.
Don't give up yet.

Yes, ALOT, of Americans were Brainwashed into voting for Obama by the Corprate Fascist MSM, the mouthpiece of the RICH & POWERFUL----that is true.

But the Healthcare Destructive Obamacare is waking up millions of American's as to the sinister forces that Obama represents.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#44 Nov 11, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text> They have been skyrocketing BECAUSE of oscumma. I've never seen increases like this EVER before. This pos prez wants people to lose their plans so they will be forced to accept his healthcare plan. That's the way this pos dirtbag works.
well, he said he was gonna fundamentally change the USA, maybe this is what he had in mind?

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