Charges fly after Mahtomedi school di...

Charges fly after Mahtomedi school district's referendum

There are 30 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Apr 29, 2010, titled Charges fly after Mahtomedi school district's referendum. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Rumors of unfair campaigning and voter fraud are circulating in the Mahtomedi school district, where a $45 million construction package was approved Tuesday by a razor-thin margin.

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truther

Tampa, FL

#1 Apr 30, 2010
Don't count on the citizens getting together and paying for it!. Many will say they support a recount, but when it comes to paying for it, they disappear!
GopherBar

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Apr 30, 2010
Are you people that dumb? Of course schools need to pass referendums, Pawlenty and the other right wingers have not funded public schools in 8 years. But yet, you nut jobs keep electing this crazy wing nuts and then complain that the school has to pass a referendum. Bachmann wants to eliminate all schools and just home school, after all look how good she turned out. ha ha ha ha ha
Matt B

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Apr 30, 2010
GopherBar wrote:
Are you people that dumb? Of course schools need to pass referendums, Pawlenty and the other right wingers have not funded public schools in 8 years. But yet, you nut jobs keep electing this crazy wing nuts and then complain that the school has to pass a referendum. Bachmann wants to eliminate all schools and just home school, after all look how good she turned out. ha ha ha ha ha
Leave it to a liberal to get on here and give money away without holding those who spend it accountable. "Pawlenty and other right wingers" have given communities plenty of money over the past eight years, but the communities haven't been accountable or responsible with it. God forbid any of these entities have to live within their means. Think of all of the other sacrifices every citizen has had to make in the past few years. You know, I'm having a hard time growing a lush lawn in my yard. Perhaps I can just put down artificial turf instead. It's near the top of my priority list right now.
Disappointed

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Apr 30, 2010
Dear GopherBar, Sorry to say you are clueless!
This vote wasn’t about curriculum and educational needs, this referendum was to pay for things likea new track and astro-turf at the high school football field and a whole bunch of EXTRAS that don’t have anything to do with educating our children. I think Senator Bachmann has to go too, but this referendum has NOTHING to do with paying for the education of children, it’s for all the pretty extras! Wait until this fall when they come to the taxpayers and tell them they are going to need to increase our taxes through a TAX LEVY which they can do without a vote. That will be to cover curriculum and educational costs. Voters need to pull their head out of the sand and educate themselves about these things!!
GopherBar wrote:
Are you people that dumb? Of course schools need to pass referendums, Pawlenty and the other right wingers have not funded public schools in 8 years. But yet, you nut jobs keep electing this crazy wing nuts and then complain that the school has to pass a referendum. Bachmann wants to eliminate all schools and just home school, after all look how good she turned out. ha ha ha ha ha
Lextalionis

San Francisco, CA

#6 Apr 30, 2010
As a Mahtomedi resident and a fiscal conservative, I voted yes for the referendum for two reasons. First, the Mahtomedi area prides itself on it's stellar educational programs. Part of the value of my home is based on the understanding that the City's residents support high educational standards. Second, we will need to build at some point, let's do it know while costs will be less. The District's ability to deliver stellar educational services depends on the whole of its facilities - yes, even new football fields (the astro-turf will save money in the long run anyhow). Sometimes you have to spend money to save money. Education is an investment in Mahtomedi. If you don't like it, feel free to move to a City that doesn't support its educational programs and save yourself a few bucks.
Bob

Hastings, MN

#7 Apr 30, 2010
GopherBar wrote:
Are you people that dumb? Of course schools need to pass referendums, Pawlenty and the other right wingers have not funded public schools in 8 years. But yet, you nut jobs keep electing this crazy wing nuts and then complain that the school has to pass a referendum. Bachmann wants to eliminate all schools and just home school, after all look how good she turned out. ha ha ha ha ha
You are the poster child for a tax and spend liberal..... congratulations. There is something called living within your means which most of us (besides the school districts) do. We give plenty of money to the schools already and our test scores are always either 1st or 2nd in the country. So don't cry about needing more money cut some of the waste instead.
mom of 3 district kids

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Apr 30, 2010
Gopher Bar, it is beyond obvious that your intake of alcohol has had a negative effect on your brain cells.
Jon

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Apr 30, 2010
Good for the children of this community.
Zolton Fregunza

Titusville, FL

#10 Apr 30, 2010
Any more $$ for pubic education is an utter waste until they can ptoduce graduates who can read, write, spell, make change, and know why the revolutioney war has meaning.

Test 'em.........DARE ya'!
Zolton Fregunza

Titusville, FL

#11 Apr 30, 2010
That's "produce" sorry!
Vikings Fan

Rochester, MN

#12 Apr 30, 2010
Unfair campaigning and voter fraud, where a $45 million construction package was approved Tuesday by a razor-thin margin. Damn, I knew those former ACORN workers would move onto bigger and better campaigns. Just did not think it would for a school referendum.
Mahtoparent

Hillsboro, OR

#13 Apr 30, 2010
People move to our school district for reasons that have nothing to do with big new building projects. Those are the things that are not funded by this referendum. None of this money can be spent on curriculum or operating expenses, it's all for the construction. It's fair to ask who stands to gain from this project, and that would start with looking more closely at Johnson Controls, the corporation that the school board hired to profit from...er...I mean,oversee this process.
Lets get real

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Apr 30, 2010
My husband, daughter and I all showed up didn't have to show any ID, we all came at different times of the day and there was no one doing exit polls! At one time the machine that counts the ballots was jammed and they were just stacking the ballots and said they would run them through when they fixed the machine. I'm not even sure those ballots were counted!!! The seniors in the high school were told in a meeting with school administrators,“they hoped that they would vote YES, but they had to vote their conscience”, isn't that an attempt to sway votes??
I'm a parent of 4, one in college who graduated last year, 2 in high school and one in middle school. In Mahtomedi we are cutting teachers and classes, but we are building a new grade school, putting in a new track and Astroturf, etc. etc. I don’t know what any of these things have to do with educating our children.
Education supporter

United States

#15 Apr 30, 2010
I was educated in New England in big time Republican territory. My local public schools were in the top 5 in the US, but then our residents wouldn't have otherwise. Today, 50 years later the Town (there are no school districts) budgets $16,700 per student and is actually proud that many of its graduates are admitted to the best colleges in the country and all students are given the fullest opportunities to excel in academics, technical achievement and sports. Of course, the parents could move to Minnesota and spend 33% on education and have expectations for their kids that challenge Mississippi and Alabama.

Why not the best? Just because a parent with kids no longer in K-12 public school got a lousy education, does not mean they should impose a lousy education on their kid's and their kid's kids. Of course the local school board members typically went to Harvard or Yale or the equivalent. Some Republicans, although almost none in Minnesota, believe that the key to the future is having well educated and responsible citizens. And they know it all starts with the public schools that are capable of teaching learning and thinking skills rather than parochial schools that indoctrinate kids with all varieties of conflicting medieval ideas and lead to the Michelle Bachmann's of the world
Jacki

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Apr 30, 2010
You guys do realize the athletic funds are less than 5% of this referendum right? Meaningless argument.

I bet you guys would have been extremely happy if in five years when there was no choice but to make a new Wildwood, re-model the high school and O.H anderson only to find out the costs were to be 60 or 70 million when construction costs went back up. Some people are clueless.
Dovegirl

United States

#17 May 1, 2010
You write poorly and your argument is a non sequitur.
Education supporter wrote:
I was educated in New England in big time Republican territory. My local public schools were in the top 5 in the US, but then our residents wouldn't have otherwise. Today, 50 years later the Town (there are no school districts) budgets $16,700 per student and is actually proud that many of its graduates are admitted to the best colleges in the country and all students are given the fullest opportunities to excel in academics, technical achievement and sports. Of course, the parents could move to Minnesota and spend 33% on education and have expectations for their kids that challenge Mississippi and Alabama.
Why not the best? Just because a parent with kids no longer in K-12 public school got a lousy education, does not mean they should impose a lousy education on their kid's and their kid's kids. Of course the local school board members typically went to Harvard or Yale or the equivalent. Some Republicans, although almost none in Minnesota, believe that the key to the future is having well educated and responsible citizens. And they know it all starts with the public schools that are capable of teaching learning and thinking skills rather than parochial schools that indoctrinate kids with all varieties of conflicting medieval ideas and lead to the Michelle Bachmann's of the world
Mahtoparent

Hillsboro, OR

#18 May 1, 2010
Education supporter, I have one thing to say to you, the beautifully educated New England person:
Apostrophes show possession, they are not for making plurals. If a word is a plural ending in an "s", such as "kids", the apostrophe that shows possession goes at the end of the word, so it would be kids'. If you are just making the word "kid" into its plural, it is "kids", not "kid's". Similarly, more than one Michelle Bachmann (now we're in serious nightmare territory) would be Michelle Bachmanns, without an apostrophe because it is simply plural. All the 45 million dollar upgrades in the world are not going to help if even these basic things are not taught in schools, and Mahtomedi has somehow maintained a reputation for teaching them without showy buildings.
Bonaventure

Minneapolis, MN

#19 May 1, 2010
On Monday, I too will be making a request of the School, to receive the mailing list of the students who will be of voting age in November, so that my "non-partisan" group can also target information related to, their right, responsibility and duty to vote in the election. Oh,,,,, and how to get out of school to do it.

Seems as though the "legal" precedent for this practice has already been set. Wish me luck.
Just Saying

Minneapolis, MN

#20 May 2, 2010
Education supporter wrote:
I was educated in New England in big time Republican territory. My local public schools were in the top 5 in the US, but then our residents wouldn't have otherwise. Today, 50 years later the Town (there are no school districts) budgets $16,700 per student and is actually proud that many of its graduates are admitted to the best colleges in the country and all students are given the fullest opportunities to excel in academics, technical achievement and sports. Of course, the parents could move to Minnesota and spend 33% on education and have expectations for their kids that challenge Mississippi and Alabama.
Why not the best? Just because a parent with kids no longer in K-12 public school got a lousy education, does not mean they should impose a lousy education on their kid's and their kid's kids. Of course the local school board members typically went to Harvard or Yale or the equivalent. Some Republicans, although almost none in Minnesota, believe that the key to the future is having well educated and responsible citizens. And they know it all starts with the public schools that are capable of teaching learning and thinking skills rather than parochial schools that indoctrinate kids with all varieties of conflicting medieval ideas and lead to the Michelle Bachmann's of the world
Well, that's really nice, but can you get back to the topic at hand?? This is about buildings, and astroturf and things that have NOTHING to do with educating our children. You could set them up in the Gibbs Farm Museum schoolhouse and they would LEARN if there were teachers to TEACH!!!
Just Saying

Minneapolis, MN

#21 May 2, 2010
Lextalionis wrote:
As a Mahtomedi resident and a fiscal conservative, I voted yes for the referendum for two reasons. First, the Mahtomedi area prides itself on it's stellar educational programs. Part of the value of my home is based on the understanding that the City's residents support high educational standards. Second, we will need to build at some point, let's do it know while costs will be less. The District's ability to deliver stellar educational services depends on the whole of its facilities - yes, even new football fields (the astro-turf will save money in the long run anyhow). Sometimes you have to spend money to save money. Education is an investment in Mahtomedi. If you don't like it, feel free to move to a City that doesn't support its educational programs and save yourself a few bucks.
Well, hate to tell ya, but Mahtomedi can tout their education all they want, but if your child is an exceptional student or a special ed student, they are pushed to the wayside. You have to have robot children that fit into the norm in order to get an education in this school district, so anyone buying a house here because of the school's is nuts. And by the way, I don't think we have paid off the LAST levy that was forced on us yet....remember the 3 part vote with the pool?? I think we are still being assessed each year for that money....so why would anyone want to agree to pay MORE taxes when we haven't paid off the last referendum forced down our throats? Live within your means Mahtomedi School District!!

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