Sen. Lieberman: Delay some health fixes

Sen. Lieberman: Delay some health fixes

There are 25 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Aug 24, 2009, titled Sen. Lieberman: Delay some health fixes. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

An independent senator counted on by Democrats in the health-care debate showed signs of wavering yesterday when he urged President Barack Obama to postpone many of his initiatives because of the economic downturn.

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Timmy

Youngstown, OH

#2 Aug 24, 2009
This doesn't surprise me. For one Sen Liberman is from Conn. home of the Insurance Companies on the Eastern Sea Board. He's going to look out for their intrests. I'm for Health Care coverage ! Their are so many people without Insurance that the Tax Payer pays for in the long run. It just makes sense !
Democrat

Columbus, OH

#4 Aug 24, 2009
Joe is practically a repblican anyway.
tshaw1

Columbus, OH

#5 Aug 24, 2009
Joe is nothing more than just another right-winged tool. Hope he's enjoying what time he has left as a Senator.
A Nnoyed

New York, NY

#6 Aug 24, 2009
Joe's got my vote again.
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#7 Aug 24, 2009
Democrat wrote:
Joe is practically a repblican anyway.
You mean like McCain is a dem. One good thing lieberman did is stand up the the commie leaders of the left.
The only thing McCain did good other than the armed force's is pick Sara Palin.
ABE

Fredericksburg, VA

#8 Aug 24, 2009
Lie-berman IS a highly-compensated prostitute for the Insurance Industry, and will undoubtedly be a
lead insurance-banking K Street lobbyist soon enough, as he ends his senatorial tenure loaded
with hypocrisy and Judas kisses!!!
Cleo

Marquette, MI

#9 Aug 24, 2009
And if Health Care costs are not contained and continue to rise at 20% a year or more, our economy will never grow.

The time is now, and those who vote against it, need to be voted out. All of them.
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#10 Aug 25, 2009
Cleo wrote:
And if Health Care costs are not contained and continue to rise at 20% a year or more, our economy will never grow.
The time is now, and those who vote against it, need to be voted out. All of them.
Any one that votes for this will be doomed in 2010 at the polls. Get your own we are not you mother to take care of you.

Britain and Canada, the old Hitler Youth slogan, "Nutrition is not a private matter!" has taken on a new life. One expert this week argued that obesity must now be treated like Global Warming, requiring stern government intervention.

Health experts in Britain and Canada insist that the government has every right to meddle in the private life of its citizens since the state is picking up the tab for their healthcare (never mind that it's not the "state" but the taxpayers themselves). As Tony Harrison, a British health-care expert, explained to the Toronto Sun, "Rationing is a reality when funding is limited." So fat people and others can't get surgeries if bureaucrats or doctors don't think they're worthy of surgery. Now, of course, there's a certain logic here since the taxpayers are picking up the tab and someone has to make the hard choices about priorities. But it never occurs to these people that maybe the fact that the government is slowly being put in charge of many of the most important and personal issues in peoples' lives is in fact an argument against socialized medicine. It doesn't occur to them that refusing to unload seriously ill patients from ambulances, sometimes for hours at a time, just so emergency rooms can meet government quotas, is a sign that something is seriously wrong with the way statists handle medicine
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#11 Aug 25, 2009
Cleo wrote:
And if Health Care costs are not contained and continue to rise at 20% a year or more, our economy will never grow.
The time is now, and those who vote against it, need to be voted out. All of them.
The Gove can't run cash for clunkers or the post office or any other thing and you think they can run your life and health think again.
Cleo

Marquette, MI

#12 Aug 25, 2009
the truth wrote:
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The Gove can't run cash for clunkers or the post office or any other thing and you think they can run your life and health think again.
Ever hear of Medicare? Its a very successful program. And its overhead costs are 3% compared to insurance of 18-25%.

I'd rather have my Doctor making my medical decisions, not my insurance company. And if you think that rationing of care doesn't exists now, try to get in to a see a Doctor without insurance. Good luck.

Single Payer all the way.
Cleo

Marquette, MI

#13 Aug 25, 2009
the truth wrote:
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Any one that votes for this will be doomed in 2010 at the polls. Get your own we are not you mother to take care of you.
Britain and Canada, the old Hitler Youth slogan, "Nutrition is not a private matter!" has taken on a new life. One expert this week argued that obesity must now be treated like Global Warming, requiring stern government intervention.
Health experts in Britain and Canada insist that the government has every right to meddle in the private life of its citizens since the state is picking up the tab for their healthcare (never mind that it's not the "state" but the taxpayers themselves). As Tony Harrison, a British health-care expert, explained to the Toronto Sun, "Rationing is a reality when funding is limited." So fat people and others can't get surgeries if bureaucrats or doctors don't think they're worthy of surgery. Now, of course, there's a certain logic here since the taxpayers are picking up the tab and someone has to make the hard choices about priorities. But it never occurs to these people that maybe the fact that the government is slowly being put in charge of many of the most important and personal issues in peoples' lives is in fact an argument against socialized medicine. It doesn't occur to them that refusing to unload seriously ill patients from ambulances, sometimes for hours at a time, just so emergency rooms can meet government quotas, is a sign that something is seriously wrong with the way statists handle medicine
Laugh now, it may be you in the next two years who loses your insurance through your employer. Then try to get insurance with pre-existing conditions.(Which can be anything from having acne as a kid). If you can afford the premiums.

A Nnoyed

New York, NY

#14 Aug 25, 2009
Cleo wrote:
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Laugh now, it may be you in the next two years who loses your insurance through your employer. Then try to get insurance with pre-existing conditions.(Which can be anything from having acne as a kid). If you can afford the premiums.
you don't need a trillion dollar government run program to reform pre-exisiting condition rules or cap premiums. You just pass a law.
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#15 Aug 25, 2009
Cleo wrote:
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Ever hear of Medicare? Its a very successful program. And its overhead costs are 3% compared to insurance of 18-25%.
I'd rather have my Doctor making my medical decisions, not my insurance company. And if you think that rationing of care doesn't exists now, try to get in to a see a Doctor without insurance. Good luck.
Single Payer all the way.
You call this a sucess? Ok you are in the pew of the few at the chruch of the fasict Barrack.
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#16 Aug 25, 2009
Cleo wrote:
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Laugh now, it may be you in the next two years who loses your insurance through your employer. Then try to get insurance with pre-existing conditions.(Which can be anything from having acne as a kid). If you can afford the premiums.
I don't have it now and I don't want the gov to tell me what and where or who stick probes in places the sun never sees which is where all of the facist Obama Marxist bills are comming from. The deep dark barrack hole of unanus.
Cleo

Marquette, MI

#17 Aug 25, 2009
the truth wrote:
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I don't have it now and I don't want the gov to tell me what and where or who stick probes in places the sun never sees which is where all of the facist Obama Marxist bills are comming from. The deep dark barrack hole of unanus.
Another faux news disciple.
Cleo

Marquette, MI

#18 Aug 25, 2009
the truth wrote:
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You call this a sucess? Ok you are in the pew of the few at the chruch of the fasict Barrack.
Yes, I do.
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#19 Aug 25, 2009
Cleo wrote:
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Another faux news disciple.
And you are a Obama bot troop called out from ACROn and Media matters so what s your point you on the left need to ask your chosen one why his temple is commi ng down. Can you say 2010 no more commie racist facist Obama and his brain dead like you.

Cleo you and he rest of your Nazis can try to stop the people but your days are counting down the death bll is the birth of the death of the DNC and the racist facist Nazi Marxist agenda.
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#20 Aug 25, 2009
Cleo wrote:
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Yes, I do.
Drink some more of Obama kool aid.

Here is Obamas comunist czars rad on as otheres are al over the net. We have learned form soro and your groups.

Here is a list of who Obama had writ this death bill and what John Conyers had to say why would he read the bill which no one did but we the people.

This is post #1 of the writer of the communist manifesto of the DNC.(Demigod Nazi Communist).

It time to impeach the left all of them and try them for treason now before we are attacked by Obama’s Muslims brotherhood, brothers.

John Conyers says, why should I have to read the bill?

CONYERS: I love these members that get up and say, "Read the bill." What good is reading the bill if it's 1,000 pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?

it's too big, it's too complex. Who's writing this stuff? "Oh, well, you don't understand Rahm Emanuel." This isn't Rahm Emanuel. "David Axelrod." It's not David Axelrod. This is much, much bigger. Well, it has taken me months to track it down, but it is the Apollo Alliance. Let me just give you a few of the people that are part of the Apollo Alliance. These are bios from the website. Phil Angelides has made his mark in California. Oh, I bet he has. Former California state treasurer from 1999 to 2007 and Democratic nominee for governor of California in 2006, Mr. Angelides has been a leader in the movement for sustainable economic progress. Keyword that you must learn: Sustainable economic progress. Why is "Sustainable" important

sustainable development is code language for and if you look at the history of it, it's been population growth Zero Population Growth. It has been zero expansion. It is code language, and this is why, if you understand this one concept, then you will begin to understand why these things are being done because the people behind them, the progressives are zero development, Zero Population Growth people.

Frances Beinecke or something, president of Natural Resources Defense Council. She has been instrumental in curbing global warming, she is a member of the boards of the Wilderness Society, China U.S. Center For Sustainable Development and the New York League of Conservation Voters

Robert Borosage, president of Institute For America's Future. He writes widely on political, economic and on national security issues for the nation. He has served as issues advisor to progressive political campaigns including Carol Moseley Braun, Barbara Boxer and Paul Wellstone. He also was a senior issues advisor for Reverend Jesse Jackson. Then on the board of the Apollo Alliance, these are the people that wrote the stimulus package: Leo Gerard, United Steel Workers of America. He is developing strategies to inject the rights of workers into trade agreements. Gerard is a driving force behind Heartland Labor Capital Funds, a network in creating conceptual, financial and educational tools for capital strategies that will inject the welfare of workers into the investment priorities.

Executive Vice President of SEIU, Gerald Hudson. Founded the School For Social Change. He's a long time champion of environmental justice. Key words, environmental justice. He has served on the board for Redefining Progress.
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#21 Aug 25, 2009
Cleo wrote:
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Yes, I do.
Mindy Lubber, the president of Ceres, I think, and I have to look that back up. I looked it up last night and it's frightening stuff. She was senior communications director for Mike' Dukakis. She held for a decade a position with a Massachusetts Public Interest Research Group

Nancy McFadden. She was vice president of public affairs of PG&E. She has served eight years in the Clinton administration to chief deputy deputy chief of staff of President Al Gore. Let's see. She's a Bay Area native. She has was appointed to the California state Senate and two governors to serve on the California Medical Assistance Commission.

the president of LIUNA, the Laborers' International Union of North America, Terence O'Sullivan. He is the innovator among the newest generation of labor leaders designed to aggressive and sometimes radical approaches designed to increase the power of working people in the 21st century. He began with more than 500,000 collective bargaining members of LIUNA, the foremost labor movement, reshaping the union, one of the fastest, most aggressive and progressive unions in North America. This is a North American international labor union.

Carl Pope? He was the executive director of the Sierra Club. He served on the boards of California League of Conservation Voters. The National Clean Air Coalition, the California Common Cause. Public Interest Economics, Inc. and Zero Population Growth. He was also the political director of Zero Population Growth.

Dan Reicher, Director of Climate Change and Energy Initiatives for Google's venture called Google.org . He makes investments in advanced policy in the areas of climate change and energy development and global health.

Joel Rogers co founded the Apollo Alliance and served as its first chairman. He is a professor of law, political science and sociology at the University of Wisconsin Madison

. The field director, Ron Ruggiero, field director, he has joined in 2008. He was 15 years organizing, representing and negotiation experience in the labor movement. He comes from SEIU. Most recently as staff director at SEIU, Local 49.

Shanelle Smith, a recently named 2009 Ohio political leaders fellow by the Center for Progressive Leadership. We have Joel Thomas. He was Missouri Jobs with Justice. He was with Missouri Campaign for Change
the truth

Lindsay, OK

#22 Aug 25, 2009
A note for everyone the Dispatch posting is pulling the backgroud of Obama's czars so you do not know who these people are and who is writing the bills. I will be contacting the wolfs on this to let them know what the plain dealer people are doing to free speech an supporting the lies of Obama instead of facts that they should be reporting and are not.

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