New sketch produced in hunt for kille...

New sketch produced in hunt for killer in Boca Raton mall case

There are 92 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Feb 14, 2008, titled New sketch produced in hunt for killer in Boca Raton mall case. In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

A new composite sketch of the suspect in the killing of a mother and daughter found at Town Center mall enhances his features and is in color instead of black and white.

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so sad

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#83 Feb 16, 2008
i doubt it is a gang. it is some piece of white trash low life who wants money and when Nancy fought back he shot them. i doubt she was sorted out as a hit. no way. he was in the mall and targeted them i wuld say.
The Truth Hurts

Boca Raton, FL

#85 Feb 16, 2008
SoFL wrote:
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How ignorant can someone be? Lets blame the mall and not the ACTUAL KILLER ARE YOU CRAZY??? In the previous case there was video released. There are cameras, but maybe the video is not being released just yet.....
I BLAME THE OWNER OF THE MALL FOR NOT DOING ENOUGH TO PREVENT CRIME IN HIS PARKING LOTS.THERE ARE MO VIDEO CAMERAS IN THE TC MALL PARKING AREAS, IF THERE WAS MABYE THEY WOULD OF SOLVED THE CRIME IN AUG. OR MABYE THE CRIMINAL WOULD OF THOUGHT TWICE BEFORE BOTH CRIMES.THE POINT IS THAT THE OWNER OF THE TC MALL IS TOO CHEAP TO HAVE CAMERAS INSTALLED IN THE PARKING LOTS & IN MY OPINION HE IS GUILTY OF NOT TRYUNG ENOUGH TO HELP HIS CUSTOMERS BE SAFE IN THE PARKING LOTS BECAUSE OF PURE GREED & BEING CHEAP!
so sad

Boca Raton, FL

#86 Feb 16, 2008
yes you are right, but there is no law on how much he spends on this or that he has to do this. she did not have a gun to her head to shop there, why does walgreens and cvs not have cameras outside their stores?? in my opinion, this has very little to do with security, it has to do with a crzy killer on our hands. he could have done this anywhere, not just the mall. outside a restaurant, etc.
Boca Raton Resident

Boca Raton, FL

#87 Feb 18, 2008
Einstein wrote:
It is a long time coming, the filling out of the sketch. The cops aren't talking, but leaking a little bit.
The added color and accents make it pretty clear that we are probably dealing with an hispanic.
The added information make it clear that they suspect more than one "gunman" ... lets call it what it is, a gangbanger.
Then there is the statement in the video that accompanies the sketch that a reliable source says "more than one shooter is involved, possibly local, possibly involved in the drug trade"...
It seems to me that one of the tecs or someone that knows one of the tecs has made a statement. What they aren't saying is what accent, if any, the gangbanger uses. It has to be obvious that they have held back the fact that the gangbanger has an olive complexion, ergo is hispanic.
What are they hiding from the public that might be helpful? Are they afraid that if they say the person speaks with a spanish accent that it will include too many suspects in people's minds, preculding a better chance at identificatin? That doesn't make sense, but of course law enforcement specialists would have a field day with that statement.
There is too much they aren't saying and what is being leaked makes me think that we may be dealing with the following.
We have a gang that has decided to work the Town Center Mall. It is ideal for them, close to a number of escape routes - they used the turnpike instead of the closer I-95, which makes me think that they gave something away there (the cameras might not be working very well for identification of the perp).
It could very well be that we are dealing with a colony of the many off-shoots of the original, killer gangbangers, MS-13. There are supposed to be some that are even more violent than others. Maybe they are just killing people to "make their bones". Maybe they just want to eliminate witnesses.
Given the fact that the authorities slept and let the gangbanger population in PB County soar unchecked, I think that this is what it is. Maybe the authorities are scared of letting the cat out of the bag before they nail someone. Maybe they are restricting information that would lead to the public getting upset and vengeful at the polls?
All I know is that if it is hispanic and looks like a gangbanger, it gets stamped gangbanger in my book and will be very closely observed when I am out and about. I will not let my wife fall victim to these pieces of cockroach excrement. No way ...
It is time for the authorities to stop this foolishness and come out with what they know. It won't be long until these little gangbangers strike again, maybe elsewhere, but they will.
In the meantime, Walsh is out pontification that some lone nutjob is out there. Personally, I hope he is right. We have less to fear from a serial killer than gangbangers.
But we know that the latter are here, we are infested with colonies of illegal alien, gangbanger vermin. And no one thinks it is time to do anything about it on the scale that is necessary.
It is time that we start hearing the truth from those in authority, not guarded quotes from "reliable sources", filtered by the media, or pontification by an amateur sleuth.
Someone is a little racist, arent they? "Gangbangers" have nothing to do with this, it is a madman who obviously is NOT killing for the money, because ultimately it is NOT worth killing someone for 500 dollars to "Drug Pushers" or "gangbangers" whoever doing this is a very sick person and is most likely doing this simply for the attention or to get "revenge" on someone from his/her past that probally fits the description of these woman. People like you that stereotype and make idiotic assumptions are the scum of the earth.
Gatorsrulz

Hollywood, FL

#88 Feb 19, 2008
The Truth Hurts wrote:
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I BLAME THE OWNER OF THE MALL FOR NOT DOING ENOUGH TO PREVENT CRIME IN HIS PARKING LOTS.THERE ARE MO VIDEO CAMERAS IN THE TC MALL PARKING AREAS, IF THERE WAS MABYE THEY WOULD OF SOLVED THE CRIME IN AUG. OR MABYE THE CRIMINAL WOULD OF THOUGHT TWICE BEFORE BOTH CRIMES.THE POINT IS THAT THE OWNER OF THE TC MALL IS TOO CHEAP TO HAVE CAMERAS INSTALLED IN THE PARKING LOTS & IN MY OPINION HE IS GUILTY OF NOT TRYUNG ENOUGH TO HELP HIS CUSTOMERS BE SAFE IN THE PARKING LOTS BECAUSE OF PURE GREED & BEING CHEAP!
Blame the Clintons for allowing all these illegal scumbags from Latin America to come here
Einstein

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#89 Feb 19, 2008
Boca Raton Resident wrote:
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Someone is a little racist, arent they? "Gangbangers" have nothing to do with this, it is a madman who obviously is NOT killing for the money, because ultimately it is NOT worth killing someone for 500 dollars to "Drug Pushers" or "gangbangers" whoever doing this is a very sick person and is most likely doing this simply for the attention or to get "revenge" on someone from his/her past that probally fits the description of these woman. People like you that stereotype and make idiotic assumptions are the scum of the earth.
Obviously you have not been reading about the gangs that have taken over in south Florida and the fact that some of them have lethal requirements for full membership. Like the mafia "making their bones", the gangbangers have to kill someone. It wasn't my contention that someone was killing for membership, just that the person or persons was/were a member of a lethal, kill gang.

This is not as far-fetched as it might seem and it is the worst possible scenario. To deal with a brutal criminal that kills his victims if they resist is bad enough, but to have to deal with a gang of these vermin is a disaster.

The fact that I say that most of the gangbangers are hispanic is not racist, it is fact. The hispanic gangs are virulent cockroaches that kill at the least cause and not just for territory. They do it for intimidation and simple blood lust.
Cher Chardonnay

Boca Raton, FL

#90 Feb 27, 2008
I will vote for you, Ralph, as I did in the LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION if you are on the Florida Ballot. I resent the fact that so many Democrats alledged that you actually hurt Al Gore. I would have voted for Mickey Mouse before I would have voted for Al Gore.
In no way did Al Gore lose a vote from me because I voted for you and never had any intent on voting for Gore.
Thank you for your efforts. The 2 party system is obviosly not working for Americans at this time. We need more options and more honesty in politics.
joe

United States

#91 Mar 1, 2008
i just got through reading the whole book on it the wife was not murders and...john and his wife were not just wondering off he was playing video games a little ways from his mother and john does mean good for all the help and time he gives!
joe

United States

#92 Mar 1, 2008
he was abducted!! and his wife did not die!!i just read the book she helped him write it
Caroline

Pompano Beach, FL

#93 Mar 13, 2008
This forum is garbage. Leave it to the real idiots to turn this into a racial matter rather than a matter of security. Do us all a favor and keep your useless comments to yourselves; leave the real thinking to the civilized, educated people of America. Rest in Peace Nancy & Joey.
stevens

Boca Raton, FL

#94 May 20, 2012
Panther Fan wrote:
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John Walsh's wife and kid were murdered in a very similar situation years ago. In his news conference he made simularities between the two cases. His show has brought down a lot of killers. He may be spectulating but it could bring us closer to solving this tragic event.
Please, before you post - get your facts in order. Mr. Walsh's wife was NOT killed in a similar fashion. In fact, she is alive and well to this day. His 6-year-old Son, Adam was the murder victim and the only similarity to any of the Garden Mall murders is that he was taken from the Hollywood Mall and murdered in a different location. At the time, this was one of South Florida's most gruesome murders - the 6-year-old's head was later found in a canal.

Walsh took his pain and changed the way we respond and look for missing Children. He pushed for Adam's Law. The man was a one man Army and achieved so much in the name of Adam.

For something to be serial - the crimes need to be similar in nature, with many killers changing their method operandi to either play with detectives or because they suffer from multiple personality syndrome. For sometime LE speculated the Garden Mall Murders may have been gang related. Whatever the nature of the murders, I hope they catch the perpetrator (s) quickly.
stevens

Boca Raton, FL

#95 May 20, 2012
Einstein wrote:
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Obviously you have not been reading about the gangs that have taken over in south Florida and the fact that some of them have lethal requirements for full membership. Like the mafia "making their bones", the gangbangers have to kill someone. It wasn't my contention that someone was killing for membership, just that the person or persons was/were a member of a lethal, kill gang.
This is not as far-fetched as it might seem and it is the worst possible scenario. To deal with a brutal criminal that kills his victims if they resist is bad enough, but to have to deal with a gang of these vermin is a disaster.
The fact that I say that most of the gangbangers are hispanic is not racist, it is fact. The hispanic gangs are virulent cockroaches that kill at the least cause and not just for territory. They do it for intimidation and simple blood lust.
I was floored when I read that just because these murders are gang related makes that somehow racists. In fact, murder and rape is an initiation into MS-13 one of the most dangerous gangs working today and it has been operating in South Florida for sometime now. When I was working in another State 3 MS-13 members raped a young girl in a wheelchair and severely beat and raped an old Woman.

I have seen so many assumption and wrong information on this forum - I now understand it is not made up of LE or even close to LE (Law Enforcement). I do not see any correlation between saying these murders might be gang related (as law enforcement was looking into) and being racist. If you have something to say, please make it worth reading. Thanks.

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