Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19860 Jan 29, 2013
[QUOTE who="01imjustsayin@gmail. com"]I used to think the Elders who would come out to our house were pretty cool. We'd sit there and talk about the Bible and all. Until one day they dropped the whole Joseph Smith bomb on us. Yeah. That was the last day the Elders came out to visit.[/QUOTE]

lol...who'd you think they'd talk about? The pope? Fricking funny...lolol.
Father overtime

Salt Lake City, UT

#19861 Jan 29, 2013
The Calvary nuts that keep posting that god and Jesus are the same deity need to read up on Saul / Paul when he testifies of seeing both god and Jesus side by side. Believing that god is all three of the godhead at the same time is not Christian. Go read your bible again.

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Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19865 Jan 30, 2013
Grandpasmurf952 wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not judging people I am pointing out doctrines that I feel are harmful. Your religion teaches much that opposes historical Christianity.
The Mountain Meadows Massacre is just one example of the fruit of the teachings of your leaders. You downplay it and claim there is no evidence to prove anything but I disagree and so do a lot of other people. As to evidence, it's there. You just refuse to see it as to admit that Brigham Young was a murderer would shatter your faith in the church.
You talk of forgiveness?
I can't extend the forgiveness that should come from those who were slaughtered. That is not my place.
And there will never be forgiveness until it's asked for. Denial of the crime prevents any true forgiveness from ever occurring.
All I can do is point out the dangers of accepting a religion that would practice the blood atonement doctrine which clearly led to the massacre.
Historical Christianity is based on LOVE and as you pointed out, Forgiveness.
Those slaughtered at Mountain Meadows were thought by Brigham Young and the church to be deserving of it due to what had happened to the Mormons in Missouri and the murder in Arkansas.
A revenge killing of over one hundred people and you have the audacity to talk to me about judgment and forgiveness?
try to wake up to the reality of our existence. You will find it much nicer than what you are attempting to defend.
have a nice evening.
You liar. Fricking pathetic liar. You claim you're not judging anyone? What do you call your holding living Mormons 150 years after a slaughter, as being the one's to "beg" forgiveness for an act they didn't do? And you have the audacity to crawl like a low bellied dog and blame living people for dead people's actions? How fricking insane are you?
And than you state this insanity from a mind infected with the disease of insanity... " I can't extend the forgiveness that should come from those who were slaughtered. That is not my place.
And there will never be forgiveness until it's asked for."
Who in the living *ell expects you to forgive anyone for anything concerning a 150 year old event? Have you set yourself as a god?
The dead will forgive or not forgive the dead. That is up to them to do or not to do in a different world where they exist.
You're a filthy piece of garbage that I have never met the likes of in these threads. You make it seem that you speak for the dead as if you're their god and you know their thoughts.
You're judgements of so many will come back to judge you when you're held accountable for your judgements of others. I feel so sickely sorrowful for your black wretched heart. How can someone so vile of spiritual filth be so convinced they are so good and wonderful, that they hold persons living responsible for the actions of dead people.
Fricking unbelievable...

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Since: Jan 09

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#19869 Feb 1, 2013
LDS Mormon cult part 1
This is a good explanation.
(next post)
Father overtime

Salt Lake City, UT

#19870 Feb 1, 2013
Protester wrote:
LDS Mormon cult part 1
This is a good explanation.
(next post)
Ahoy Internet preacher.

Since: Jan 13

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#19871 Feb 1, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
[QUOTE who="01imjustsayin@gmail. com"]I used to think the Elders who would come out to our house were pretty cool. We'd sit there and talk about the Bible and all. Until one day they dropped the whole Joseph Smith bomb on us. Yeah. That was the last day the Elders came out to visit."

lol...who'd you think they'd talk about? The pope? Fricking funny...lolol.
Ha I didn't know anything about them at the time. They were coming out there to minister. It didn't take me long to catch on, though.
rick santorum

Tucson, AZ

#19873 Feb 2, 2013
MORMONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF GAY ACTIVISTS AND GAYS IN UGANDA..MITT ROMNEY AND THE MORMON CHURCH ARE FUNDING THIS MURDER WITH MONEY GIVEN TO THE UGANDAN GOVERNMENT AND MORMON MISSIONS IN UGANDA.THIS MURDER MUST STOP..EVERY MORMON IN AMERICA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE MURDERS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE...YOU HAVE 90 DAYS TO GET OUT OF UGANDA OR YOU WILL BE FORCED OUT OR KILLED
Father overtime

Salt Lake City, UT

#19875 Feb 3, 2013
rick santorum wrote:
MORMONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF GAY ACTIVISTS AND GAYS IN UGANDA..MITT ROMNEY AND THE MORMON CHURCH ARE FUNDING THIS MURDER WITH MONEY GIVEN TO THE UGANDAN GOVERNMENT AND MORMON MISSIONS IN UGANDA.THIS MURDER MUST STOP..EVERY MORMON IN AMERICA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE MURDERS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE...YOU HAVE 90 DAYS TO GET OUT OF UGANDA OR YOU WILL BE FORCED OUT OR KILLED
Paranoid much?

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Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19877 Feb 3, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha I didn't know anything about them at the time. They were coming out there to minister. It didn't take me long to catch on, though.
You realize your experience mirrored those two thousand years ago? People of the Jewish faith in their homes, some were receiving people that were going to minister to them and like you, when they found out they were there to convince them to believe in a man they called the living prophet of God, Jesus of Nazareth, they like you rejected their message?
Can you imagine living when God walked this earth, living in the same area, hearing and or listening to him and deciding he was a quack and looney tunes?
The Bible is filled with instances of God setting a prophet on the earth again and again that most would reject as a fraud, a wolf in sheep's clothing, would call him evil and crazy and not of God.
Two thousand years later we face the same exact situation and humans are reacting the same exact way they did two thousand years ago. Be careful what and whom you reject.

Since: Jan 13

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#19878 Feb 3, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>You realize your experience mirrored those two thousand years ago? People of the Jewish faith in their homes, some were receiving people that were going to minister to them and like you, when they found out they were there to convince them to believe in a man they called the living prophet of God, Jesus of Nazareth, they like you rejected their message?
Can you imagine living when God walked this earth, living in the same area, hearing and or listening to him and deciding he was a quack and looney tunes?
The Bible is filled with instances of God setting a prophet on the earth again and again that most would reject as a fraud, a wolf in sheep's clothing, would call him evil and crazy and not of God.
Two thousand years later we face the same exact situation and humans are reacting the same exact way they did two thousand years ago. Be careful what and whom you reject.
Lol I rejected a doctrine who quotes a false prophet. Thanks for the history lesson, though. Good times!

Since: Jan 13

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#19879 Feb 3, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>You realize your experience mirrored those two thousand years ago? People of the Jewish faith in their homes, some were receiving people that were going to minister to them and like you, when they found out they were there to convince them to believe in a man they called the living prophet of God, Jesus of Nazareth, they like you rejected their message?
Can you imagine living when God walked this earth, living in the same area, hearing and or listening to him and deciding he was a quack and looney tunes?
The Bible is filled with instances of God setting a prophet on the earth again and again that most would reject as a fraud, a wolf in sheep's clothing, would call him evil and crazy and not of God.
Two thousand years later we face the same exact situation and humans are reacting the same exact way they did two thousand years ago. Be careful what and whom you reject.
Also Joseph Smith is not Jesus. Hate to burst your bubble there, bub, but you're following the wrong guy.

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#19881 Feb 4, 2013
The Lost Book of Abraham
@ 6 mins - instead of being inspired by God, like the books of the Bible were, Joseph Smith got the lost scrolls from a traveling thief and con man. They were very expensive, instead of being given freely to the world, as the books of the Bible were.

@ 24-30, 35-39, 43-44 mins.- it’s pointed out that people are supposed to believe that a book written by Abraham was entirely lost by the Israelites and preserved by unbelieving Egyptians, embalmed in a priest’s catacomb (a Godless man).

Also, proof that 3 illustrations copied by Joseph Smith were copied from the ‘Book of the Dead’ and were copied from illustrations of an Egyptian god, a god of the underworld, and one that Smith claimed was Abraham lecturing on astronomy(?) Really?

@45-55 - different conclusions from Mormons.
(next post)

From the beginning, we see that Mormon leaders are actively involved in creating more fraudulent documents to cover up the lies told by Joseph Smith and others. That‘s the problem with religions ‘inspired‘ by men
That means that those leaders KNOW THAT MORMONISM IS A FAKE and are deliberately scamming millions of people -- for money.

Also, when you compare the kind of person Joseph Smith was, compared to the Apostles, you have to ask why God would use an unrepentant criminal who never changed his ways, and was continuing to lie to the very end.
They say the plates were returned to the angel Moroni, but we still have the Dead Sea Scrolls because true Christianity is not a false religion built on lies, that can’t stand up to examination.
If it’s not from God, it can only be inspired by Satan.
(next post)
Father overtime

United States

#19882 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Also Joseph Smith is not Jesus. Hate to burst your bubble there, bub, but you're following the wrong guy.
Have you ever seen Jesus?

Since: Jan 13

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#19883 Feb 4, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever seen Jesus?
Have you ever personally met Joseph Smith?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19885 Feb 4, 2013
rick santorum wrote:
MORMONS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF GAY ACTIVISTS AND GAYS IN UGANDA..MITT ROMNEY AND THE MORMON CHURCH ARE FUNDING THIS MURDER WITH MONEY GIVEN TO THE UGANDAN GOVERNMENT AND MORMON MISSIONS IN UGANDA.THIS MURDER MUST STOP..EVERY MORMON IN AMERICA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE MURDERS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE...YOU HAVE 90 DAYS TO GET OUT OF UGANDA OR YOU WILL BE FORCED OUT OR KILLED
Interesting. Can you give us a link to some evidence?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19886 Feb 4, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You realize your experience mirrored those two thousand years ago? People of the Jewish faith in their homes, some were receiving people that were going to minister to them and like you, when they found out they were there to convince them to believe in a man they called the living prophet of God, Jesus of Nazareth, they like you rejected their message?
Can you imagine living when God walked this earth, living in the same area, hearing and or listening to him and deciding he was a quack and looney tunes?
The Bible is filled with instances of God setting a prophet on the earth again and again that most would reject as a fraud, a wolf in sheep's clothing, would call him evil and crazy and not of God.
Two thousand years later we face the same exact situation and humans are reacting the same exact way they did two thousand years ago. Be careful what and whom you reject.
I don't ever remember any stories of Jesus trying to marry the Apostles wives while they were preaching his gospel. Smith is no Jesus.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19887 Feb 4, 2013
Father overtime wrote:
The Calvary nuts that keep posting that god and Jesus are the same deity need to read up on Saul / Paul when he testifies of seeing both god and Jesus side by side. Believing that god is all three of the godhead at the same time is not Christian. Go read your bible again.
They did read the Bible, and in it Jesus said those who've seen him, have seen the Father. It also says there is only one God.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19888 Feb 4, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You liar. Fricking pathetic liar. You claim you're not judging anyone? What do you call your holding living Mormons 150 years after a slaughter, as being the one's to "beg" forgiveness for an act they didn't do? And you have the audacity to crawl like a low bellied dog and blame living people for dead people's actions? How fricking insane are you?
And than you state this insanity from a mind infected with the disease of insanity... " I can't extend the forgiveness that should come from those who were slaughtered. That is not my place.
And there will never be forgiveness until it's asked for."
Who in the living *ell expects you to forgive anyone for anything concerning a 150 year old event? Have you set yourself as a god?
The dead will forgive or not forgive the dead. That is up to them to do or not to do in a different world where they exist.
You're a filthy piece of garbage that I have never met the likes of in these threads. You make it seem that you speak for the dead as if you're their god and you know their thoughts.
You're judgements of so many will come back to judge you when you're held accountable for your judgements of others. I feel so sickely sorrowful for your black wretched heart. How can someone so vile of spiritual filth be so convinced they are so good and wonderful, that they hold persons living responsible for the actions of dead people.
Fricking unbelievable...
You are the last person to be talking about judging anything or anyone. The same for the LDS church.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19889 Feb 4, 2013
Protester wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I know of healthy babies being adopted by gays, and in one case a parent had been molested. I think many people are gay because of molestation and abuse. I believe that often affects families for generations, and am vehemently against using children in social experiments, not only because children pay the price, but that most parents are too stupid to learn from mistakes and change their own behaviors.
The odds are no greater that a gay couple will molest a child than a straight couple. If you are anti-abortion, pro-life, you have to be willing to let the children who were not aborted have a chance at having a family.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19890 Feb 4, 2013
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>What's up Papa. See you are still stuck on Mountain Meadow Massacre huh. Well, let's pretend for a moment shall we?
Even if the massacre happened exactly as you have described,
Jesus offers forgiveness. Where is yours?
How can you judge mine or anyone else's Christianity based on how you perceive the events to happen.
not to mention I am 36 years old, what part would I have played in something that happened so very long ago.
There is no doubt that there was a massacre. I just don't agree with your thoughts on the turn of events.
In all honesty the only ones who really know without a doubt what happened that day are long dead.
I think what most people want is for the LDS church to take responsibility for what happened. Mormons still make excuses today blaming everything and everybody but the church. The LDS church is responsible for what happen because of what the leaders were preaching at the time. If you don't know much about the Mormon reformation of the 1850's, you should look into it.

The Catholic church has offered apologies for the Spanish inquisition, and the Southern Baptist church has offered apologies for their racists teachings in the beginning, supporting slavery. But the Mormon church won't take responsibility for anything.

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