Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32007 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#17404 Oct 12, 2012
Gladiator76 wrote:
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I was posting the ritual. Maybe it's my experience, maybe not. It doesn't matter. I'm showing that your rituals aren't Christian
They arent unchristian. They are not anything that should cause anyone alarm. My temple sealing was far more spiritual than our civil ceremony was. It was ten years after we had been married, that day had something our civil ceremony lacked. It was special, between my husband and myself. Nothing the world needs to understand.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#17406 Oct 12, 2012
Gladiator76 wrote:
<quoted text>
I was posting the ritual. Maybe it's my experience, maybe not. It doesn't matter. I'm showing that your rituals aren't Christian
Just a few post up, you claimed it was YOUR sorry. You can't just change your mind about that simply because you were caught in a lie. If you are trying to convince others of the evils of mormonism, being truthful would be a better way to accomplish that.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#17408 Oct 12, 2012
dem wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you part of a harem?
Are you ?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#17410 Oct 12, 2012
Election year Cabbage Patch dolls: http://www.720thevoice.com/cc-common/news/sec...

“Mormons will brainwash you”

Since: Oct 12

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#17411 Oct 12, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>Just a few post up, you claimed it was YOUR sorry. You can't just change your mind about that simply because you were caught in a lie. If you are trying to convince others of the evils of mormonism, being truthful would be a better way to accomplish that.
It's not a lie you idiot mormons! Lmao

“Mormons will brainwash you”

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#17412 Oct 12, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>They arent unchristian. They are not anything that should cause anyone alarm. My temple sealing was far more spiritual than our civil ceremony was. It was ten years after we had been married, that day had something our civil ceremony lacked. It was special, between my husband and myself. Nothing the world needs to understand.
Cults always say sgit like that to justify their devil ceremonies

“Mormons will brainwash you”

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#17413 Oct 12, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>And your posts show exactly the type of person you are. A liar and lacking any morals whatsoever. You're pathetic and a total waste of my time.
Then don't respond dumazz! Lmao I can see you doing your ebdowments in your rags saying the sacred text! Watch out for the celestial curtain! Someone might try to molest your hand!

“Mormons will brainwash you”

Since: Oct 12

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#17414 Oct 12, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>I'm glad you did that. You just showed everyone here what a lying troll, piece of shit you are. If you even a shed of credibility, you just lost it.
Here it is again just for you livingducheintheland
My wife and I were married in the Salt Lake Temple nine years ago. I haven't reflected on our ceremony that much since we left the church. However, reading over it now, I realize that it's lost a lot of its original meaning and importance because we're no longer true believers.

Notice how hollow this is when you know the church is a crock:

Officiator: Brother ______,[naming groom] and Sister ______,[naming bride] please join hands in the Patriarchal Grip or Sure Sign of the Nail.

Marriage Couple: Joins hands in the "Patriarchal Grip, or Sure Sign of the Nail." This token is given by clasping the right hands, interlocking the little fingers and placing the tip of the forefinger upon the center of the wrist. No clothing should interfere with the contact of the forefinger upon the wrist.

Officiator: Brother ______, do you take Sister ______ by the right hand and receive her unto yourself to be your lawful and wedded wife for time and all eternity, with a covenant and promise that you will observe and keep all the laws, rites, and ordinances pertaining to this Holy Order of Matrimony in the New and Everlasting Covenant, and this you do in the presence of God, angels, and these witnesses of your own free will and choice?

Groom: Yes.

Officiator: Sister ______ do you take brother ______ by the right hand and give yourself to him to be his lawful and wedded wife, and for him to be your lawful and wedded husband, for time and all eternity, with a covenant and promise that you will observe and keep all the laws, rites and ordinances pertaining to this Holy Order of Matrimony in the New and Everlasting Covenant, and this you do in the presence of God, angels, and these witnesses of your own free will and choice?

Bride: Yes.

Officiator: By virtue of the Holy Priesthood and the authority vested in me, I pronounce you ______, and ______, legally and lawfully husband and wife for time and all eternity, and I seal upon you the blessings of the holy resurrection with power to come forth in the morning of the first resurrection clothed in glory, immortality and eternal lives, and I seal upon you the blessings of kingdoms, thrones, principalities, powers, dominions and exaltations, with all the blessings of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and say unto you: be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth that you may have joy and rejoicing in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. All these blessings, together with all the blessings appertaining unto the New and Everlasting Covenant, I seal upon you by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, through your faithfulness, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, Amen.

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That's it! No lasting symbols (rings), no affection (you may kiss the bride), and no "honor, love or cherish one another." It seems like you're marrying the church more than you're marrying one another.

The whole temple ceremony part seems so dry and shallow.

The temple experience was so un-sentimental, that I've heard of Ex-Mormons re-doing their wedding vows and mentioning things like love and companionship. Now that's a Christian wedding.

“Mormons will brainwash you”

Since: Oct 12

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#17415 Oct 12, 2012
FOUR SIGNS AND THREE PENALTIES
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1 - The Sign and Penalty of the First Token of the Aaronic
Priesthood Is made by bringing the right arm to the square, the
palm of the hand forward, the fingers close together, and the
thumb extended. The penalty is executed by placing the right
thumb under the left ear, palm down, fingers close together. The
thumb is drawn quickly across the throat to the right ear and the
hand dropped to the side. This signifies having your throat slit
from ear to ear and your tongue torn out by its roots.

2 - The Sign and Penalty of the Second Token of the Aaronic
Priesthood Is made by bringing the right hand in front of you,
the hand in cupping shape, the right arm forming a square, and
the left arm is raised to the square. The penalty is executed by
placing the right hand on the left breast, and drawing the hand
quickly across the chest, then dropping both hands to the sides.
This signifies having your chest ripped open and your heart and
vitals torn out and fed to the beasts of the field and the fowls
of the air.
3 - The Sign and Penalty of the First Token
of the Melchizedek Priesthood is made by
bringing the left hand forward, the hand
in cupping shape, the left arm forming a
square. The right hand is brought forward,
the palm down, fingers close together, and
the thumb extended. The thumb is placed
over the left hip. The penalty is executed
by drawing the thumb quickly across the
body and dropping both hands to the sides.
|his signifies having your body cut asunder
and your bowels gush out upon the ground.

4 - The Sign of the Second Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood
(no penalty is mentioned) is made by raising both hands high
above the head, palms forward, fingers close together, and
lowering the hands to the side three times while repeating aloud
the words,'PAY LAY ALE, PAY LAY ALE, PAY LAY ALE.'
They are told this means, "Oh God, hear the words of my mouth"
in the Adamic language.

Up until the 1930's the penalties were plainly stated as
indicated. The patron was agreeing or covenanting that if he or
she revealed these secrets, the Mormon elders would very
literally take them and execute the penalties upon them. This is
known as "blood atonement", and is still a doctrine of the Church
today.

“Mormons will brainwash you”

Since: Oct 12

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#17416 Oct 12, 2012
More crazy temple rituals that are so Christian everyone will agree. No more arguing! Lol

We will begin by making the Sign of the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood. This is done by bringing the right arm to the square, the palm of the hand to the front, the fingers close together, and the thumb extended. This is the sign. The name of this token is the New Name received in the temple today.

We will now make the Sign of the Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood. This sign is done by bringing the right hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the right hand forming a square, and the left arm being raised to the square. This is the sign. The name of this token is your first given name if you are going through the temple for your own Endowment, or if you are going through for the dead, it is the first given name of the person for whom you are officiating.

We will now make the sign of the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail. This is done by bringing the left hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the left arm forming a square. The right hand is also brought forward, the palm down, the fingers close together with the thumb extended. This is the sign. The name of this Token is "the Son", meaning the Son of God.

We will now make the Sign of the Second Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, the Patriarchal Grip, or Sure Sign of the Nail. This is done by raising both hands high above the head, and while lowering the hands repeating three times the words:

Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!

Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!

Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!

Since: Oct 12

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#17417 Oct 13, 2012
Who cares.

Since: May 10

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#17418 Oct 13, 2012
Gladiator76 wrote:
More crazy temple rituals that are so Christian everyone will agree. No more arguing! Lol
We will begin by making the Sign of the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood. This is done by bringing the right arm to the square, the palm of the hand to the front, the fingers close together, and the thumb extended. This is the sign. The name of this token is the New Name received in the temple today.
We will now make the Sign of the Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood. This sign is done by bringing the right hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the right hand forming a square, and the left arm being raised to the square. This is the sign. The name of this token is your first given name if you are going through the temple for your own Endowment, or if you are going through for the dead, it is the first given name of the person for whom you are officiating.
We will now make the sign of the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail. This is done by bringing the left hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the left arm forming a square. The right hand is also brought forward, the palm down, the fingers close together with the thumb extended. This is the sign. The name of this Token is "the Son", meaning the Son of God.
We will now make the Sign of the Second Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, the Patriarchal Grip, or Sure Sign of the Nail. This is done by raising both hands high above the head, and while lowering the hands repeating three times the words:
Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!
Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!
Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!
Enough of the stuff only Mormons care about....

Let's get to the important stuff EVERYONE cares about!

Like patting your head while rubbing your stomach..

..now try it while hopping on one foot...

Or here's an even better one:

Lift your right foot and swing it around in a clockwise circle....now draw the number six in the air with your right hand.....

...bwaaaahaaahaaahaaaahaa!
pearl

Salt Lake City, UT

#17419 Oct 13, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU ARE SUCH AN F'NG LIER!!! That was a straight up copy and paste. You are a piece of SH!T who will do and say anything to sound credible. I wish I knew where you were so I could kick your F'NG ASS!!! Your not worth cat puke you slimy troll!
READ HERE! http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon127.htm
NOW GO FCUK yourself!
So you want to kick his ass. Nothing original there. Do you think he's an animal also? Nothing new there either. Did you go on to correct his spelling? Of course you did. The fact that you would misspell the most commonly used word on this thread, and then go ahead and admonish someone else for a grammatical error, has become your petty way of releasing some frustration when you have nothing left. It's a pattern you use. Then you claim he has nothing original to say, when your standard comment about behind the couch with a uterus on the floor has become weary. You know nothing is sacred on this thread, just another footprint left over from your christian culture, of which you are a complete product of. And you guys are in charge

Since: Apr 12

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#17420 Oct 13, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently you missed something. Perhaps you should put the Friskies down, concentrate, and re read s.l.o.w.l.y. what I wrote. If you still can't understand, try to climb over your hoard and go to a neighbor who isn't high on meth and get them to read it to you.
I missed nothing when you said you hated the USA and wanted to see it sold down the river which is why you support Ryan/Romney/Antichrist 2012.

We all know what you are. LDS thinks that Romney the four time draft dodging yellow bellied coward pathologically lying tax dodging felon is the White Horse Prophecy come to life.

You know, where Mormon takes over the WH and proclaims that it is the official religion of the country. This is a believe long held by LDS. We all know it and so do you.

Stop hiding your America-hating plan under a rock.

Since: Apr 12

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#17421 Oct 13, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> No thanks, im not crazy or lonely.
You are crazy. Crazy people do not know they are crazy which is why they are crazy.

Since: Apr 12

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#17422 Oct 13, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> Just a few post up, you claimed it was YOUR sorry. You can't just change your mind about that simply because you were caught in a lie. If you are trying to convince others of the evils of mormonism, being truthful would be a better way to accomplish that.
Well, you finally admit that Mormonism is evil.

Good for you. May Romney rot in hell for trying to rob the US blind and destroy our great country in order to fatten his filthy Caymans bank account.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#17423 Oct 13, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you finally admit that Mormonism is evil.
Good for you. May Romney rot in hell for trying to rob the US blind and destroy our great country in order to fatten his filthy Caymans bank account.
No that isnt what I said, but since I know you are challenged mentally, I will excuse your mistake.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#17424 Oct 13, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
<quoted text>
You are crazy. Crazy people do not know they are crazy which is why they are crazy.
You are ignorant. Which isnt an insult, just a fact.

Since: Sep 12

Ava, MO

#17425 Oct 13, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>Enough of the stuff only Mormons care about....

Let's get to the important stuff EVERYONE cares about!

Like patting your head while rubbing your stomach..

..now try it while hopping on one foot...

Or here's an even better one:

Lift your right foot and swing it around in a clockwise circle....now draw the number six in the air with your right hand.....

...bwaaaahaaahaaahaaaahaa!
Hahahahahaha!!! nice...

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#17426 Oct 13, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> No that isnt what I said, but since I know you are challenged mentally, I will excuse your mistake.
You did say that Mormonism is evil. Stick to that line of thought, you may see the light of day yet in your sorry little life.

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