Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 31997 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#15902 Sep 26, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
10% of a population is a lot of people, no lie about it.
The rest is just more justification for your hateful, ignorant, bigoted, God. I'm not wasting time responding to it.
lol...noooo...what you don't want to do is to waste your time learning facts that disagree with your on going ignorance. That I agree with.
PAGANISM CAUSES AIDS

Live Oak, CA

#15903 Sep 26, 2012
Dana scurries off to look at his kiddie porn, telling himself because he ALSO thinks about little girls, his homosexual urges are really just secondary,

and he's not really gay.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#15904 Sep 26, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
My God loves his creations, unlike yours. If you were as worried about how you abused people who haven't done anything to you, as you are my language, you wouldn't be such a motherf**ker. I can promise you that God cares a lot more about your actions then my language.
Your god created nothing but the dark filth you spew from your lips, that you confuse with up lifting language you think a Christian should say, that a real Christian would never utter.
The god that influences you helps you to believe it's a righteous thing to speak the most filthiest, the most vile derogatory things that you say.
Some people in here not claiming to be a Christian as you claim speak as you do and though it's not correct, I understand they don't care how vile they sound because God is not in their life. But you claim God is in your life, you claim to be an "active" Christian that speaks truth and goodness and then you spew the vile filth you do and prove yourself an out right liar.
God, the God of all that is good and well, never influences anyone to speak the vile filth you speak.
It matters not how any one speaks to you. No one makes you speak in such vile filthy ways as you do. That's a choice you make. And you put Jesus to shame each time you do it because you claim to be obeying him. Get it?

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#15905 Sep 26, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Intentional stupidity isn't going to save your filthy perverted, pig of a Prophet or Faith.
My Faith is built upon the foundation of Jesus Christ.

Mock it all you want... today.
Celebrate your followers... today.

God will win in the end.

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#15906 Sep 26, 2012
mrs dane roberts.

NOTHING YOU SAY CHANGES THE FACT:

I've already seen you state and know the dates, pages, and post numbers where you state these things:

-> you will "Crucify Jesus Christ himself"
-> you will kill his prophets
-> now, you call God the Father a "bastard", a "pig", "retarded"

then, of course there's your famous saying....

Dana Robertson wrote:

<quoted text>
I'm not going to embrace fantasies just to please a phony religion that only wants to run every detail of my life without giving me anything in return. Sorry, that's not going to happen.

...

What exactly do you want from God?

Jesus came down here and died for you. Isn't that enough>

You don't want to embrace a religion that wants to run every detail of your life without giving you anything in return?

You chose to come down here and adhere to God the Father' plan...

yet, you won't even act decent or moral because you don't get anyting in return?

WHAT?

YOU REALLY ARE A MORON!
Wisdom

Rochester, KY

#15908 Sep 26, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You're so lost to your own bent logic that you have no real idea of what God is or isn't.
This is another post where your god is quite happy that you speak his language :)
Any other Religion out in the world that you Mors know of that teaches a man can become a God? I can't find one. Too bad God waited 1850 years after the death of Jesus to tell everyone about all this stuff and the true word of God found in the BOM. When he sent his Angel to reveal the true word of God to Mohamed that also was too bad. Too bad since it wasn't the same true word of God the Angel showed Joe. Wonder what's up with the true "words" of God being two totally different words from God?
Hey

Middlesboro, KY

#15909 Sep 26, 2012
Was Jesus married and fathered children?

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#15910 Sep 26, 2012
Hey wrote:
Was Jesus married and fathered children?
I don't know if you are a Mormon or anti-Mormon and looking for an argument to debate; therefore, I am just going to direct you to some links so you can find the infomation out for yourself.

---

There is a lot that we do not know from the history of people that was documented and hidden and just not yet discovered, or just isn't well known about.

The LDS Church has always stated that to be the case (over 185 years). In the past century alone a lot of documents have been revealed, but there's a lot more to come.

Here are new developments that show there is evidence Jesus had a wife. I don't know if he had children.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/09/18/har...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/21/pastors-...

---

When the Bible was put together. It was authored by different people. Much was taken out because of this reason or that. From what I understand it was primarily due to the people in authority not wanting to reveal that they were not the supreme power.

Here is the history and timeline of the bible and how it came about being put together. This site is as thorough of a site documenting it that I've ever seen.

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bib...

---

Here is an education site regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls that were discovered in 1947...

http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp/educational_...

---

Really there is so much information today that wasn't evident many years ago. So the best thing to do is research for yourself, ask questions, etc.

Since: Sep 12

Rogersville, MO

#15911 Sep 26, 2012
Hey wrote:
Was Jesus married and fathered children?
You just can't seem to pick a screen name and stick with it, can you? I don't think "village idiot" is spoken for. That should work for you.
PAGANISM CAUSES AIDS

Live Oak, CA

#15912 Sep 26, 2012
Wisdom wrote:
<quoted text>Any other Religion out in the world that you Mors know of that teaches a man can become a God? I can't find one. Too bad God waited 1850 years after the death of Jesus to tell everyone about all this stuff and the true word of God found in the BOM. When he sent his Angel to reveal the true word of God to Mohamed that also was too bad. Too bad since it wasn't the same true word of God the Angel showed Joe. Wonder what's up with the true "words" of God being two totally different words from God?
YOU INSIPID *T*W*I*T* the BIBLE IS A TUTORIAL on HOW

J.E.S.U.S. C.H.R.I.S.T.

the
*M*A*N*

became GOD.

He WASN'T GOD,
then he WAS God.

He WAS MAN
He BECAME GOD.

You protestants should give back the money you spend at school to teach you to read because you are ONE
DUMB
HILLBILLY.
PAGANISM CAUSES AIDS

Live Oak, CA

#15913 Sep 26, 2012
EVER WONDER why you protestants score LOWER on IQ TESTS than EVERYONE?

Look above at YOU, CLAIMING the FACT that the MAN JESUS
CHRIST
became
a GOD

is PROOF a MAN
CANNOT BECOME
a GOD.

The MAN
Jesus CHRIST
came to EARTH
and BECAME a GOD.

But YOU are INCENSED at SOMEONE TEACHING that a MAN can COME to EARTH
and RETURN to LIVE WITH GODS
AS GODS
as SONS of GOD
as DAUGHTERS of GOD
and as HEIRS to the NATURE of GOD HIMSELF.

HEIRS to throne AND KINGDOM

but GOD DOESN'T KNOW what it meant to say HEIRS and FATHER and SON and DAUGHTERS and MOTHERS.

God doesn't know anything about HOW TO SHOW US what OUR NATURE IS.

To TEACH us what our BIRTHRIGHT is.
No, because HE MIGHT BE A GOD
but HE CAN'T HAVE SONS AND DAUGHTERS
that would be NASTY

so HE'S a BALD-FACED LIAR for CLAIMING HE COULD

And he CAN'T MAKE JESUS CHRIST, a MAN, a GOD.

BECAUSE some HICK TOLD HIM he CAN'T

even though the STORY of JESUS CHRIST
is that he was a MAN
who BECAME a GOD.

You really do need to have someone manage you and your sister's birth control program.
PAGANISM CAUSES AIDS

Live Oak, CA

#15914 Sep 26, 2012
" I caint BUH LEEVE SOME BODIE SAYED A MAN, can BUHCOME uh GOD."

Ignorant sister dating hillbilly. The fact you'll come onto the internet and even utter such insipid jibberish about a RELIGION
that
TEACHES PEOPLE
they can BECOME as their FATHER in HEAVEN is.

He is a GOD.

YOU have a culture of pierced, dope-addled, tattoed whores, that would turn the stomach of Attila the Hun.

40% OUT OF WEDLOCK births
45% DIVORCE
50% MEN ADMIT ADULTERY: on your WIFE
50% WOMEN on HARD PHARMA to COPE with JUST BEING ONE OF YOU

50% WOMEN *R*A*P*E*D*/*M*O*L*E*S*T*E*D*

***ONE in FIVE of your YOUNG ADULTS has V.D.***

You can't see how someone could become a GOD when the GOD tells you to BECOME like GOD.

You are just one stupid juice guzzling,
snake handling
camo wearing,

pitbull-with-a-coon-hound breeding,

Appalachian hillbilly.
PAGANISM CAUSES AIDS

Live Oak, CA

#15915 Sep 26, 2012
Maybe it's that LOSING SIGHT that YOU are DESCENDENTS of GOD

that's got you all taking off your clothes and mufflers and guzzling intoxicants

and RAPING 50% of your WOMEN
and COMMITTING ADULTERY on 50% of YOUR WIVES
PAGANISM CAUSES AIDS

Live Oak, CA

#15916 Sep 26, 2012
So YOU GO AHEAD ANY TIME ONE or ALL of YOU EVIL HERPES-CARRYING
ILLITERATE
ALCOHOL SPONGES

and EXPLAIN what it is about

MORE DIVORCE
MORE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
MORE POVERTY
MORE PHARMACEUTICAL ADDICTION
MORE ALCOHOL ADDICTION
MORE TOBACCO ADDICTION
MORE ILLEGAL DRUG ADDICTION
MORE RAPES
MORE MOLESTINGS
MORE DEPRESSION
MORE MENTAL ILLNESS
MORE ADULTERY
MORE VENEREAL DISEASE

that YOU want to highlight in putting the best face you can

on what you all are.

INTOXICATED
UNETHICAL
VIOLENT
WHORING
HICKS.

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#15917 Sep 26, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>
You just can't seem to pick a screen name and stick with it, can you? I don't think "village idiot" is spoken for. That should work for you.
Thanks for clarifying who he/she is.
John

Quinlan, TX

#15918 Sep 26, 2012
PAGANISM CAUSES AIDS wrote:
So YOU GO AHEAD ANY TIME ONE or ALL of YOU EVIL HERPES-CARRYING
ILLITERATE
ALCOHOL SPONGES
and EXPLAIN what it is about
MORE DIVORCE
MORE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
MORE POVERTY
MORE PHARMACEUTICAL ADDICTION
MORE ALCOHOL ADDICTION
MORE TOBACCO ADDICTION
MORE ILLEGAL DRUG ADDICTION
MORE RAPES
MORE MOLESTINGS
MORE DEPRESSION
MORE MENTAL ILLNESS
MORE ADULTERY
MORE VENEREAL DISEASE
that YOU want to highlight in putting the best face you can
on what you all are.
INTOXICATED
UNETHICAL
VIOLENT
WHORING
HICKS.
Man, you're a looney tune!

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#15919 Sep 26, 2012
Hey wrote:
Was Jesus married and fathered children?
I'll answer that question, yes they do:

On October 6, 1854, Mormon Apostle Orson Hyde stated,

"How was it with Mary and Martha, and other women that followed him [Jesus]? In old times, and it is common in this day, the women, even as Sarah, called their husbands Lord; the word Lord is tantamount to husband in some languages, master, lord, husband, are about synonymous... When Mary of old came to the sepulchre on the first day of the week, instead of finding Jesus she saw two angels in white,'And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou?' She said unto them,' Because they have taken away my Lord,' or husband,'and I know not where they have laid him.' And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away. Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.' Is there not here manifested the affections of a wife. These words speak the kindred ties and sympathies that are common to that relation of husband and wife" (Journal of Discourses 2:81).

In that same talk he went on to say:

"Now there was actually a marriage; and if Jesus was not the bridegroom on that occasion, please tell who was. If any man can show this, and prove that it was not the Savior of the world, then I will acknowledge I am in error. We say it was Jesus Christ who was married, to be brought into the relation whereby he could see his seed, before he was crucified" (Journal of Discourses 2:82).

It appears that Hyde's teaching was readily accepted by the LDS leadership. We find no record of Hyde being admonished for teaching such a notion. In fact, we find that he made a similar comment six months later. On March 18, 1855 Hyde said:

"I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children" (Journal of Discourses 2:210).

Mormon Apostle Orson Pratt agreed with his contemporary when he wrote,

"One thing is certain, that there were several holy women that greatly loved Jesus -- such as Mary, and Martha her sister, and Mary Magdalene; and Jesus greatly loved them, and associated with them much; and when He arose from the dead, instead of showing Himself to His chosen witnesses, the Apostles, He appeared first to these women, or at least to one of them -- namely, Mary Magdalene. Now it would be natural for a husband in the resurrection to appear first to his own dear wives, and afterwards show himself to his other friends. If all the acts of Jesus were written, we no doubt should learn that these beloved women were His wives" (The Seer, p.159).

On page 172 of the same book, Pratt wrote,

"We have now clearly shown that God, the Father had a plurality of wives, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His First Born... We have also proved most clearly that the Son followed the example of his Father, and became the great Bridegroom to whom kings' daughters and many honorable Wives to be married."

http://www.mrm.org/jesus-married

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#15920 Sep 26, 2012
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Man, you're a looney tune!
She is a prime example of the cult mentality. Any challenges to her fantasies causes these reactions. She is a danger to anyone around her, especially any children she may have had. God help them.
PAGANISM CAUSES AIDS

Live Oak, CA

#15921 Sep 26, 2012
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Man, you're a looney tune!
EXPLAIN,
WHAT it IS, about

50% of YOU MEN ADMITTING ADULTERY on YOUR W.I.F.E.
50% of your WOMEN being RAPED/MOLESTED by you in their life
50% of your WOMEN being on HARD PHARMACEUTICALS to COPE
50% of your MARRIAGES ending in DIVORCE

30% of your MEN RAPED/MOLESTED by you in their life

ONE in FIVE of YOUR YOUNG ADULTS having VENEREAL DISEASE

that YOU want to highlight.

Syllable adding HICK.

EXPLAIN how
LESS EDUCATION
LESS MONEY
LESS FAMILY STABILITY
LESS SAFETY from SEXUAL ASSAULT
LESS SAFETY from DOMESTIC ASSAULT
LESS ACHIEVEMENT

is something YOU'RE HERE to RECOMMEND as the FRUITS
of
YOUR GOD.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#15922 Sep 26, 2012
piratefighting wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know if you are a Mormon or anti-Mormon and looking for an argument to debate; therefore, I am just going to direct you to some links so you can find the infomation out for yourself.
---
There is a lot that we do not know from the history of people that was documented and hidden and just not yet discovered, or just isn't well known about.
The LDS Church has always stated that to be the case (over 185 years). In the past century alone a lot of documents have been revealed, but there's a lot more to come.
Here are new developments that show there is evidence Jesus had a wife. I don't know if he had children.
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/09/18/har...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/21/pastors-...
---
When the Bible was put together. It was authored by different people. Much was taken out because of this reason or that. From what I understand it was primarily due to the people in authority not wanting to reveal that they were not the supreme power.
Here is the history and timeline of the bible and how it came about being put together. This site is as thorough of a site documenting it that I've ever seen.
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bib...
---
Here is an education site regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls that were discovered in 1947...
http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp/educational_...
---
Really there is so much information today that wasn't evident many years ago. So the best thing to do is research for yourself, ask questions, etc.
"In other words, this is no confirmation of the Da Vinci Code or even of the idea that the Gnostics thought Jesus was married in the normal sense of the word."

A piece of Gnostic writing isn't proof.

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