Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32003 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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#27178 Jul 18, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Yeah, that's the spin and you eat it with a spoon
lol...the only spin here is your Mormon hater spin. You hate Mormons young and old, you hate the word Mormon, you hate Mormon writings, you hate anything good Mormons do for each other or others regardless because you have a true haters heart for all things Mormon and to you, Mormons will never ever do or be anything good to you because you hate all things Mormon.
You're a foul nasty thinking hater that has no decency when it comes to 'normal' thinking.
You're foul nasty disgusting hater heart went so far as to victimize to young preteens as rape meat for non-Mormon illegal marriages and you saw saying that was well and good.
I estimate somewhere inside your mind there's some good in you as a person but you have a lot of mental sickness to deal with and your hater heart reveals that as fact.

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#27179 Jul 18, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>Absolutely not. You're replies are based on you being a true blue hater and not sensible reasoning.
For any adult (note the word I used, ADULT not MINOR) subjecting themselves of their own free will that is what they've done. Made a choice. How their church doctrine, their religious teachers/companions, non-member friends and social media has influenced their opinion of himself is one thing to be noted.
But a shrink will tell you none of the above will ever have forced directly/indirectly a person to do something so drastic. That's the adult choice.
You as a hater wish to remove all responsibility from an adult for their decisions in this matter so as a hater you can deflect blame where it belongs and that's because you're a liberal and a liberal prides himself in deflecting blame from it's source for which it belongs to.
Now if you wish to speak of minors being forced by Mormon/non-Mormon parents/guardians to be subject to sexual orientation change therapy, I'll agree adverse consequences from said therapy lay at the parent(s)/guardian(s) feet.
As long as there's demand for it, there's nothing wrong with supplying it??..and the cult coercion driving the demand has no accountability either, right?? No wonder they baptized Hitler..

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#27180 Jul 18, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>Absolutely not. You're replies are based on you being a true blue hater and not sensible reasoning.
For any adult (note the word I used, ADULT not MINOR) subjecting themselves of their own free will that is what they've done. Made a choice. How their church doctrine, their religious teachers/companions, non-member friends and social media has influenced their opinion of himself is one thing to be noted.
But a shrink will tell you none of the above will ever have forced directly/indirectly a person to do something so drastic. That's the adult choice.
You as a hater wish to remove all responsibility from an adult for their decisions in this matter so as a hater you can deflect blame where it belongs and that's because you're a liberal and a liberal prides himself in deflecting blame from it's source for which it belongs to.
Now if you wish to speak of minors being forced by Mormon/non-Mormon parents/guardians to be subject to sexual orientation change therapy, I'll agree adverse consequences from said therapy lay at the parent(s)/guardian(s) feet.
The consequences of minors being subjected to that therapy lay at the parents/ religion that pushed it/religion that perpetrated it/ congregation that supports it's feet. They all suck

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#27181 Jul 18, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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God, you are sooooo confused. It's kind of pathetic. But since you brought it up..
The JONAH lawsuit...if its successful, there will be lawsuits filed nationwide against these quacks for consumer fraud.
Why is Elder Jensen speaking at an evergreen conference in support of reparitive therapy?Perhaps you should check out exactly who is on their board. Or keep your head in that sand..you really seem to enjoy the hell out of it.
they are SEPARATE entities understand?

Like Wal-Mart and Target

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#27182 Jul 19, 2013
Acts of homosexuality are a crime against Heavenly Fathers laws.

What the people did outside of the Church was wrong... but the people volunteered for it... and the organizations were different entities.

End of story.

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#27183 Jul 19, 2013
Looking for Gru

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#27184 Jul 19, 2013
Mormons helping Mormons is their definition of a "miracle." Shouldn't they be doing that anyway? Who really got helped here? The Mormon church. This is anything but a "miracle."

Matt 5:
46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 If you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?

"LDS convert experiences miracle while shopping for missionary clothing"

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865583277/...

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#27186 Jul 19, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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And the cult tortured him ala Mengele to "experiment"??
He is one of countless others. There are a number of people here in the salt lake valley who have gone thru it and lived to tell. I see the results from a local perspective. It's funny, you and that other whack supporting the idea that if he volunteered for it, the people doing, supporting, sustaining, yadayada have no culpability. Mengele is ok, it's his victims who are at fault... Very sick.
They can never be honest and admit it is the cult teaching that created this desire to want to change in the first place. The pressure to conform, the self loathing. Part of being in a cult is never excepting responsibility for the damage done by that cult. It's always someone else's fault.

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#27187 Jul 19, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Clueless is one of your positive sides. They assist their workers with Medicaid?? It's a church that refuses to pay for healthcare for the poor it employs?? And this change happens after they realize the ACA probably isn't going away?? Funny you can't see how despicable that is..
The slogan should be "Helping people stay poor, underpaid, starving, and living off the government, and pretending to actually make a difference." It's all just a PR gimmick.

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#27188 Jul 19, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>They can never be honest and admit it is the cult teaching that created this desire to want to change in the first place. The pressure to conform, the self loathing. Part of being in a cult is never excepting responsibility for the damage done by that cult. It's always someone else's fault.
I know...funny, how she went from "you lie!" to making excuses for it. At first, she didn't believe her precious LD$ inc. capable of showing porn to children and electrocuting their genitals. Now that she knows BYU admitted to doing it, she chooses to rationalize torture. Even if that torture is applied to children.

Anything to protect the brethren, right? Those old lizards who lie as easy as breathing and gleefully take her money.
She got a peek at the truth. She can twist it in her head anyway she chooses. But her twists can never replace the truth. Evergreen is one of the disgusting realities of LD$ inc., it's still open, run by their lizards while getting their referrals from morg bishops. One of the more evil examples of the profits saying one thing and doing the exact opposite.

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#27189 Jul 19, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>The slogan should be "Helping people stay poor, underpaid, starving, and living off the government, and pretending to actually make a difference." It's all just a PR gimmick.
Exactly.

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#27192 Jul 19, 2013
Mommy2Bof3 wrote:
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
We believe that man will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
We believe that through the Atonement of Christ all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel.
We believe that the first principals and ordinances of the gospel are first, faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, second, repentence; third, baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, laying.on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the gospel and administer the ordinances thereof.
We believe in the same organization that existed in the primitive church, namely apostles, prophets pastures, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
No you do not. You believe in John Smith, that Lucifer is the brother of Jesus, the book of Mormon and polygamy. The fact that you have adjusted your shape like a shift-shaper is not a surprise.

Do you know any Mormons who speak in tongues, prophesy and interpret, and if so, please explain how, and if so, why do you follow the book of Mormonism which does not speak of any of those things nor the Holy Spirit.

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#27193 Jul 19, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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I know...funny, how she went from "you lie!" to making excuses for it. At first, she didn't believe her precious LD$ inc. capable of showing porn to children and electrocuting their genitals. Now that she knows BYU admitted to doing it, she chooses to rationalize torture. Even if that torture is applied to children.
Anything to protect the brethren, right? Those old lizards who lie as easy as breathing and gleefully take her money.
She got a peek at the truth. She can twist it in her head anyway she chooses. But her twists can never replace the truth. Evergreen is one of the disgusting realities of LD$ inc., it's still open, run by their lizards while getting their referrals from morg bishops. One of the more evil examples of the profits saying one thing and doing the exact opposite.
Also, how can a LDS be more in lined with the teachings of the Mormon church when FLDS means a fundamental belief in Mormonism???????

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#27194 Jul 19, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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In shock therapy he was aroused by both male and female erotica. Gay men don't repeatedly date straight women as a test to see if their attracted to them. They don't go so far as while believing they're gay to become engaged with a female.
Why do you lie or are you simply ill-advised? Most gays and lesbians have had sex on a regular basis with the opposite sex.

If you do not believe this, then are you saying that the lesbian plaintiff in the Prop 8 case, previously married to a man, is really lesbian. Are you saying that since many gays claim to be born gay, that their sex and marriage to the opposite sex is and was a sham including the victim children byproducts? I know many lesbians who have biological children and were married to and attracted to men. same for gay men.

Are you also saying that gays do not have sex with animals, bestiality, or children, pedophilia, or aroused by furry things, frotterism? Consider this, when a male or female becomes sexually aroused and masturbates, is s/he asexual? If so, then the primary orientation of humans is asexuality which would make 99.9999999% of humans bisexual.

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#27196 Jul 19, 2013
Covert Stealth Ops wrote:
<quoted text>Also, how can a LDS be more in lined with the teachings of the Mormon church when FLDS means a fundamental belief in Mormonism???????
The truth is that the FLDS church is more in harmony with the LDS church that Joseph Smith set up himself. Joseph Smith wouldn't even be able to hold a temple recommend in today's LDS church.

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#27198 Jul 19, 2013
Covert Stealth Ops wrote:
<quoted text>Also, how can a LDS be more in lined with the teachings of the Mormon church when FLDS means a fundamental belief in Mormonism???????
Joseph Smith(who has way more in common with warren Jeffs than Thomas monson) would get a "court of love"and get exed in a heartbeat.

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#27200 Jul 19, 2013
One might thing that Dana and MoHo knew Joseph Smith personally.

Or,

perhaps they know his heart and history...

Oh, wait, that is left only to the Lord.

I guess they are pervert molesters.

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#27201 Jul 19, 2013
oh all things good, holy, an intelligent.

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#27202 Jul 19, 2013
*of not oh

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#27203 Jul 19, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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As long as there's demand for it, there's nothing wrong with supplying it??..and the cult coercion driving the demand has no accountability either, right?? No wonder they baptized Hitler..
Are you looney? I thought dana said you dealt with suicide prevention. Was he lying again? If you dealt with suicide prevention you should have some knowledge of the far range of shrinks with many various/different fields a person with suicidal behavior can see to seek help.
As long as an adult thinks with help from a shrink they can change their sexual orientation, a shrink will be there to make the almighty buck to take that patient on for therapy as shrinks have been doing for mostly non-Mormon patients for decades and decades.
What you think is wrong and what people have needs for will always be two explicitly different things because of your liberal far left thinking. People have mental needs and as long as they can pay a shrink for guidance/help, including sexual orientation behavior therapy that shrink won't turn them away.
Behavior therapy is a huge gold mine industry for shrinks. And what a shrink does in the private confines of their office unknown to the public that they have done for decades stays in the file cabinet unless the patient breaks doctor-patient confidentiality.
A person just curious to know if they can change their sexual orientation doesn't need a company like Evergreen. They can hire a private shrink that'll do whatever till they see/believe the therapy works/doesn't work.
You know what amazes me? What amazes me is you think sexual behavior therapy ONLY goes on in places like Evergreen. That amazes me.

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