Records To Provide Insight Into Fiery West Tulsa Plane

Investigators combed through the wreckage of a fiery plane crash Wednesday. The crash happened late Tuesday morning in west Tulsa. Full Story
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Tulsa Pilot

Canoga Park, CA

#1 Sep 29, 2010
Great job by these young airmen getting that plane on the ground with no injuries to bystanders or property damage and only minor injuries to themselves.

In flight fires are rare indeed and light airplanes are generally very safe.

God bless them.
Karl Schneider

Sapulpa, OK

#2 Sep 29, 2010
If it had been me flying that plane I'd have been able to land at the airport and save the plane. These kids now days just don't have the experience to do things properly. Glad they're ok
Another tulsan

Tulsa, OK

#3 Sep 29, 2010
This could have been something simply as exhaust pipe that decided to cracked suddenly at the wrong place and allowed a blowtorch of exhaust gases to impinge on the firewall and travel through voids to to inside the cockpit.

A 30 year old airplane is bound to have some residual "junk" in the floorboards which could be flammable. Old carpet shreds, Old residue from brake fluid, oil leaks, etc. Places not mandated to be cleaned and not visible to inspections.

The same scenario and chance could happen with any automobile on the road today.

Applaud the pilots for getting it down as quickly and safely as they did.

They did a good job.
Another tulsan

Tulsa, OK

#4 Sep 29, 2010
P.S.
In situation like that, screw saving the plane.
Get it down and get out as soon as you can.
Insurance covers the plane but not you.
KarlSchneider

Tulsa, OK

#5 Sep 29, 2010
Don't listen to Karl, he is just upset that the attention and praise is focused on a topic other than himself.
Krantzman7

Belvidere, IL

#6 Sep 29, 2010
At last, a journalist has done his research and presented an aviation story that contains no hyperbole, misunderstandings, or factual innaccuracies! Congratulations. Keep it up.

“Flying-safer than driving...”

Since: Apr 08

KTUL/KRVS

#7 Sep 30, 2010
Krantzman7 wrote:
At last, a journalist has done his research and presented an aviation story that contains no hyperbole, misunderstandings, or factual innaccuracies! Congratulations. Keep it up.
Agreed. Great job by Emory. A journalist that loves aviation and actually does have some flight time under his belt.
beezlbub

Tulsa, OK

#8 Sep 30, 2010
Karl Schneider wrote:
If it had been me flying that plane I'd have been able to land at the airport and save the plane. These kids now days just don't have the experience to do things properly. Glad they're ok
If it had been me flying the plane I would have been able to bomb Pakistan and still land the plane safely while it is on fire
pissed

Tulsa, OK

#9 Sep 30, 2010
Karl Schneider wrote:
If it had been me flying that plane I'd have been able to land at the airport and save the plane. These kids now days just don't have the experience to do things properly. Glad they're ok
Karl blow it out where the sun doesnt shine. From what I have read you can do EVERYTHING better. F#(K off, and if you can do it all better go to Washington D.C. and fix our jacked up government. Set your pants on fire next time you are driving and see if you can get to the next car wash to put out the flames. I have money you cant and when you FAIL at that think of something else self-centered and stupid to say!!!!
Karl Schneider

Tulsa, OK

#10 Sep 30, 2010
pissed wrote:
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Karl blow it out where the sun doesnt shine. From what I have read you can do EVERYTHING better. F#(K off, and if you can do it all better go to Washington D.C. and fix our jacked up government. Set your pants on fire next time you are driving and see if you can get to the next car wash to put out the flames. I have money you cant and when you FAIL at that think of something else self-centered and stupid to say!!!!
Just tellin it like it is knuckle-dragger. True aviators like me are not having our shoes filled by the Spartan wanna-bees they crank out by the hundreds. Maybe someday they will get it right.....
Kurt R Schneider

Kyle, TX

#11 Sep 30, 2010
My dad is the greatest in the world, at everything! Just ask him! Don't mess with him when his adult diaper gets full, he gets cranky. He also gets testy when his prostate flares up......
Coweta

United States

#12 Sep 30, 2010
Anyone know the tail number from the downed aircraft?

The only item of questionable relevence in the story is the citation that each plane "is checked over by a different set of pilots most likely several times a day." The cause of the fire likely wouldn't have been discoverable by a preflight inspection no matter how many times you do it. Would probably have only been seen during the 50/100hr inspections when they've got the panels off of the nose. Even then it might not have been detectable depending on the nature of the malfunction.

Good story though, lots of good information to non-aviation types.
karlschneider

Coweta, OK

#13 Sep 30, 2010
KarlSchneider wrote:
Don't listen to Karl, he is just upset that the attention and praise is focused on a topic other than himself.
Here is what karl will say on about every topic forum:
1) You're a knuckle dragger
2) Tell you're uncle/dad I said hello
3) If you knew nine more things, you would be an idiot
4) It's my duty to inform you that you are crazier that a schithause rat
5) No one can fly better than me because I am an outstanding pilot
6) I hate Christians and their beliefs (because they tell me that man on man love is not ok)
pissed

Tulsa, OK

#14 Sep 30, 2010
karlschneider wrote:
<quoted text>Here is what karl will say on about every topic forum:
1) You're a knuckle dragger
2) Tell you're uncle/dad I said hello
3) If you knew nine more things, you would be an idiot
4) It's my duty to inform you that you are crazier that a schithause rat
5) No one can fly better than me because I am an outstanding pilot
6) I hate Christians and their beliefs (because they tell me that man on man love is not ok)
Then that would make him a self-centered r#t@rd. Needs to think of something original
beezlbub

Tulsa, OK

#15 Sep 30, 2010
Kurt R Schneider wrote:
My dad is the greatest in the world, at everything! Just ask him! Don't mess with him when his adult diaper gets full, he gets cranky. He also gets testy when his prostate flares up......
ok dobidly
beezlbub

Tulsa, OK

#16 Sep 30, 2010
karlschneider wrote:
<quoted text>Here is what karl will say on about every topic forum:
1) You're a knuckle dragger
2) Tell you're uncle/dad I said hello
3) If you knew nine more things, you would be an idiot
4) It's my duty to inform you that you are crazier that a schithause rat
5) No one can fly better than me because I am an outstanding pilot
6) I hate Christians and their beliefs (because they tell me that man on man love is not ok)
don't forget...he is paying for me beer
Spartan

Tulsa, OK

#17 Sep 30, 2010
Karl Schneider wrote:
If it had been me flying that plane I'd have been able to land at the airport and save the plane. These kids now days just don't have the experience to do things properly. Glad they're ok
How on earth would you have made a plane, which was consumed in 3 to 5 seconds once they barely made it down onto the field, fly back to the airport? You are single-handedly the stupidest person I have seen post on either of these stories. I sincerely hope that you are put in the same situation and burn up on your attempt to "Make it back". I just hope you are alone and you hit nothing on the way down. Have fun responding because I am not going to post back like a baby and start a forum argument with someone like you.

P.S. When you do make it back, to save the airplane that is being consumed by flames, I suggest you smother it with your body and huge ego, that should be enough
krvs

Tulsa, OK

#18 Sep 30, 2010
Karl Schneider wrote:
If it had been me flying that plane I'd have been able to land at the airport and save the plane. These kids now days just don't have the experience to do things properly. Glad they're ok
NO YOU WOULDNT HAVE!!!!!!!!! the plane was on fire under the dash, the instructor was on fire. If he would have tried to make it to the airport he would have died. He was amazing, had he been at 4500 feet they would have both been killed. I guess we'll see when youre on the news because you thought you were so smart you could "make it back to the airport" you sound like an ignorant untrained fool. Im sorry you dont get your facts straight before commenting.
Karl Schneider

Sapulpa, OK

#19 Sep 30, 2010
krvs wrote:
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NO YOU WOULDNT HAVE!!!!!!!!! the plane was on fire under the dash, the instructor was on fire. If he would have tried to make it to the airport he would have died. He was amazing, had he been at 4500 feet they would have both been killed. I guess we'll see when youre on the news because you thought you were so smart you could "make it back to the airport" you sound like an ignorant untrained fool. Im sorry you dont get your facts straight before commenting.
Anyone with my training and experience could have put the fire out and kept flying til the tank ran dry. We were trained to handle just about any problem, you are obviously only instructed in how to use your limited intelligence to get a plane in the air and hopefully back on the ground. Is there any end to your stupidity. Im sorry you don't get your fact straight before commenting. Go research how pilots in the 50s were taught, then come back and talk your foolishness.
Karl Schneider

Sapulpa, OK

#20 Sep 30, 2010
Spartan wrote:
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How on earth would you have made a plane, which was consumed in 3 to 5 seconds once they barely made it down onto the field, fly back to the airport? You are single-handedly the stupidest person I have seen post on either of these stories. I sincerely hope that you are put in the same situation and burn up on your attempt to "Make it back". I just hope you are alone and you hit nothing on the way down. Have fun responding because I am not going to post back like a baby and start a forum argument with someone like you.
P.S. When you do make it back, to save the airplane that is being consumed by flames, I suggest you smother it with your body and huge ego, that should be enough
Can't tell you how badly that hurts coming from a Spartan airhead..yep, gonna lose sleep over that one....
There were two of them genius, if you have the equipment on board to fight a fire it's an easy undertaking. All they teach you pinheads is how to fly, not deal with any circumstances outside your little joystick. How about this, learn to pilot an airplane sonny, not just fly it.

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