POLICE: Puppy Was Not Fed Before Infa...

POLICE: Puppy Was Not Fed Before Infant Attack

There are 229 comments on the News on 6 Tulsa story from Nov 4, 2008, titled POLICE: Puppy Was Not Fed Before Infant Attack. In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

We are learning more about the mother of a baby that was eaten by a puppy. Prosecutors charged 18-year-old Linzy Earles with second-degree manslaughter.

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Kara

Middle River, MD

#208 Nov 16, 2008
Unbelieveable wrote:
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First- you have left your child in a swing unattended because it's the "only place they would sleep" that makes you a **** parent just like her....last time I checked those swings are mobile...MEANING IT MOVES! TAKE IT TO THE ROOM YOURE RESTING IN!
Second, did you leave you child unattended for 2 hours at a time WITH a 6 week old puppy?? If so, that brings me back to my first point of you being a **** mother also.
Third, a NEW mom is STILL A MOM...OWN UP AND BE A WOMAN!!!
Fourth, sleep deprived?? REALLY?!? You think she was the only mother who has ever been sleep deprived? TOUGH ****!! Thats what happens when you do drugs and get pregnant...you deal with the consequences.
Fifth, anyone who has a small child and a puppy should know that the puppy could hurt a child. That's common sense and OBVIOUSLY you LACK that!
Sixth- "poor girl" Are you freaking kidding me. POOR BABY WAS E-A-T-E-N ALIVE! I hope this POS "mother" rots!
Seventh- "poor girl has been thru enough"....I disagree...she will be through enough when she is eaten alive by hungry animals while everyone else sleeps.
Eighth- "show this child compassion"???? She doesn't deserve compassion..she deserves to be eaten alive.
This whole story sickens me beyond belief. It's bad enough that this poor excuse of a mother thought what she was doing was ok...but to see "Sandra's" comments and see that someone else thinks this is okay just blows my freaking mind. When are people going to be held accountable for their actions?(or lack of) Thank GOD this baby is in a better place!
Thank God to hear a sane comment. Jesus. Thank you thank you for posting this. This whole thing makes me sick. If Sandra has such pity for a mother like that, I don't want to know who else she has pity for.
Kara

Middle River, MD

#209 Nov 16, 2008
Shadow wrote:
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You have to be kidding me a ball is a ball and a baby is a baby in a swing. You have no Idea between a dog and a ball. I feel for you.
I have 12 labradors here right now and if I played ball with them of course they get rough with the ball it is a moving object and a challenge to fetch it and bring it to you or have you chase the dog to get it back a GAME was it a game that a baby was in a swing crying and dying if Alive which I very much doubt. She killed her baby and was bait for the pup and I still say something happened to the baby and it was a set up but never figured the puppy would feed off of a dead baby. They were going to say he was fine when in the swing must of had swing death like crib death and found him dead. More like murdered.
Until you have been around labs since 1964 and breeding all them years and oh yes raising 5 from there birth to the time they left home,.As small children with them to and never less than 7 labs in the house around the dogs to know of them about them and there territories don't bother asking about a play session and the death of a baby and a puppy. No comparison to what you have experienced. This is no where near what happened here.
Shadow, how often do you spend time actually talking to PEOPLE? You seem to have your head further up the dog's butt than anything. Who cares if you're a lab breeder or not. A dog is still a dog, and if ill-cared for or ill-treated in any way, dogs can do what humans would consider some pretty crazy things, even though they're just acting on instinct. They're not perfect, they're not harmless, and should at all times be remembered as "a dog" at the end of all things. Dogs can be raised to be very loyal, reliable, fun, and caring creatures, no matter what breed they are. I don't disagree there. I don't blame the dog in this situation, but the dog is also not the primary concern either. The primary focus should be on the mother and the family and the SERIOUS consequences they should suffer as a result of their neglect of a puppy and a newborn child.
Kara

Middle River, MD

#210 Nov 16, 2008
fred55 wrote:
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Bottom line is a baby that young should have never been left unattended especially with animal of any kind in the house. It just seems like most people are more concerned about the puppy than the child. The authorities who investigated this obviously had good reason to believe it was that puppy they didnt just randomly pick an animal in the house to euthanize. I did grow up on a farm(220acres) every kind of livestock imageable. we had dogs that attacked some turkeys, goats , and even small calves. My Grandfather always killed them immediatly. chances are they attack once they'll do it again. My thinking is better safe than sorry. The dog would of ended up in a shelter anyway where it probably would of been euthanized eventually. The real tragedy is that their was even a reason to kill the dog because of some irresponsible teen mother who should have had more sense than to leave a child that young unattended.
Thank you, you seem to be one of the small percentage of intelligent people posting on here. I feel bad for the dog too, really bad. But it's not my focal concern either.
Kara

Middle River, MD

#211 Nov 16, 2008
Shadow wrote:
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Take a break look at the time Markers for when the baby was left alone in the swing!
How the **** could a playful baby rip up and kill a baby in that short a time playing without a person knowing it was going ON.
Get real get a life you live in a dream world I do not even go there the baby was dead and that is why only. No noise from the baby to protest the attack!!!! Use your brain. I have been breeding way to far and to long to ever ever agree the baby was alive they do not ATTACK LIVE PREY OF HUMAN OR LARGE ANIMALS ONLY RODENTS, BIRDS AND RABBITS a fair play game not a sitting live human being. If you read all the posts you will know more the BABY was already dead and gone end of story and they all knew it! A cover up to help protect drug ridden tired beat up mom! The yall should be charged in the death of the infant. I would just love to see them all go to jail for neglect and a cover up and murder.
Come on people do your dogs eat babies if alive THINK NOT even if starved they will eventually go lay down and die first!
Wow Shadow I get more pissed off at you by the minute.
Kara

Middle River, MD

#212 Nov 17, 2008
Shadow wrote:
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Well finally a person that agrees as to the noise a baby would of made and the screams of pain and Terror. I am so waiting for the reports and they had better be right! This could really be a massive attack on the puppies in the world!
Yep, still pissed off
Shadow

Mehoopany, PA

#213 Nov 17, 2008
Kara wrote:
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Yep, still **** off
Gee That is to bad you are PO"D . YOU have your thoughts and Comments and I have mine. Too bad the baby is gone and no I can not forgive this person or her family if that is what you call it. The baby did not deserve this and DHS And the Hospital are responsible for the baby's death as well as the mother as far as I am concerned.If my post's bother you don't read them.

And do not worry about my friends and dogs and my years of breeding and how a Lab is with Children unless you are an expert and a Professor of a dogs habits and puppies you have no right to judge me I did not kill the baby and mine have never attacked a baby or a child . If so I would of heard about it.By the way this happened back in July where were you since day one? I have been on all 3 threads so better go back and catch up a bit . Make sure you read all the posts from day one and go jump on someone else you sound like a very controlling person but guess what you will not control me and my opinions that I have. That is it the end! If I upset you to BAD. You do not know me so you have no right to judge me.
Shadow

Mehoopany, PA

#214 Nov 17, 2008
Kara wrote:
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Wow. That sounds pretty retarded. So I guess the grandmother must have gotten hungry and secretly went in and ate the baby herself. Yep, that must have been what happen. Cause clearly a STARVING DOG would NEVER act on its hunger out of instinct. God what a stupid comment.
NO DOPEY means the baby was gone dead an animal will eat a dead carcus not a live one!!! Go back to school!!!! Only because of other reasons that will make you PUKE AGAIN IF I told you! You are disgusting and you think you know it all. Remember the airplane crash and they ate the dead bodies to survive until rescued HUMANS what the hell do you think the puppy did he was hungry the baby was dead already and he chewed the baby! Now how do you think the humans felt eating the dead ones from the plane crash???????? Unless an expert in this , which I have many years of living on you and history to know what actually will happen! Go study a book.

“Never let your dreams die. ”

Since: Aug 08

Owasso

#215 Nov 17, 2008
But wouldn't the baby have had to have had the odor of decay or something to attract the dog to it? I don't think the dog would have known the infant was dead after only being dead a few minutes and surely these people were not foolish enough to believe there would not be an autopsy done on the infant to determine the time of death so they had to know they couldn't stall very long after the baby died before reporting it. I still have to believe the baby was in his swing crying kicking his little legs and the puppy thought it was a game and played tug of war with the baby. And the two drugged out worthless slime bags in the other room both chose to overlook the infants screams both assuming it would either shut up and go to sleep eventually or assuming if it screamed long enough the other one would go take care of it. And the puppy played his game of tug of war until this helpless infants flesh was torn from his body and he bled to death. The exact same fate that should befall the adults that chose to allow it to happen. It makes me sick to think the grandmother is currently popping a few more pills and keeping herself knocked out in her bedroom so she doesn't haven't to even think about what she allowed happen to this helpless baby. The woman who has probably been knocked out on her drugs for so many years that her daughters have grown up to be the drug abusing chips off the old block that they are today.
Shadow

Tunkhannock, PA

#216 Nov 18, 2008
OkieLinduh wrote:
But wouldn't the baby have had to have had the odor of decay or something to attract the dog to it? I don't think the dog would have known the infant was dead after only being dead a few minutes and surely these people were not foolish enough to believe there would not be an autopsy done on the infant to determine the time of death so they had to know they couldn't stall very long after the baby died before reporting it. I still have to believe the baby was in his swing crying kicking his little legs and the puppy thought it was a game and played tug of war with the baby. And the two drugged out worthless slime bags in the other room both chose to overlook the infants screams both assuming it would either shut up and go to sleep eventually or assuming if it screamed long enough the other one would go take care of it. And the puppy played his game of tug of war until this helpless infants flesh was torn from his body and he bled to death. The exact same fate that should befall the adults that chose to allow it to happen. It makes me sick to think the grandmother is currently popping a few more pills and keeping herself knocked out in her bedroom so she doesn't haven't to even think about what she allowed happen to this helpless baby. The woman who has probably been knocked out on her drugs for so many years that her daughters have grown up to be the drug abusing chips off the old block that they are today.
You make a very good point. I am sure the baby was gone for way more than a few minutes. I feel the baby died by trauma way before put into the swing. That is why the puppy went after the Diaper. And oh so sad that this was done to the baby. Yes I agree that the puppy did do this. Have you yet heard or seen any reports of the autopsy and the time of death on any of the information out as yet NO!

The tests will tell all of it when the police have all the T's crossed and every i dotted and every word and charge to the fullest to prosecute this person. They must be very careful. I am very sure they are proceeding with caution. They can not say anything about any of it until the time of arrest for the death of the baby. The other charges of abuse and neglect are only part of it.All will come together in good time. It takes many months to do all the tests. The truth will come out in the end.
I have waited this long as many of us have since the end of July. I can wait as long as it takes to have the baby's real death reports out and the proper charges on this family.

I do so hope all are charged with neglect and abuse . All of the authorities to.

The mother I am sure is responsible for this and have you ever watched the news clips of the fake tears and pleas of a man that has killed his wife begging for her return or a woman that has killed her child?? Well go back and look at Mommy Dearest on the tape from July when it happened what a joke and performance and the dad to . The grandfather thought he was putting a sleeping baby in the swing but the baby was gone!

This will all come out one day wait and see.
May the little Angel rest in peace from all his pain bestowed upon him at the time of his death.At the hands of Morons.
Shadow

Tunkhannock, PA

#217 Nov 18, 2008
Kara wrote:
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Wow. That sounds pretty retarded. So I guess the grandmother must have gotten hungry and secretly went in and ate the baby herself. Yep, that must have been what happen. Cause clearly a STARVING DOG would NEVER act on its hunger out of instinct. God what a stupid comment.
No your Comments are very wild and Stupid Unless you have a degree in Psychology and a Professor I will avoid your comments to me.You are immature and stop swearing at me . As I said not grown up yet. You have a baby and are a mother wonderful congrats. But it does not make you grown up any one can have a baby even 12 year old does not make them mature and grown up!

“Never let your dreams die. ”

Since: Aug 08

Owasso

#218 Nov 18, 2008
Whatever happened Shadow and however it happened that day in my mind is of little difference. No matter who killed that innocent little baby and how the events unfolded there were 4 adults in that nasty feces covered drug den of neglect. 4 grown people that between all of them could not manage to feed care and protect a tiny baby and a puppy. So wrapped up in their own selfish pathetic lives that they couldn't be bothered with the care of these 2 precious lives. I do not sympathize with any one of the 4 of them. They are all guilty in my mind. And all 4 deserve the same punishment. And I think we both agree on that! And I sure hope the state steps in and removes the younger daughter from this den of iniquity and tries to save her before it is too late for her too.
Mee

Prince George, VA

#219 Nov 18, 2008
There are a couple of ďhintsĒ in this story that could lead one to think the baby may have already been dead before the puppy did the damage. The girl says that she was tired after being up with the baby since 4 AM. The police report states that she seemed more concerned with getting her rest than taking care of the baby. Could it be that she (or someone else in the house) became so agitated at the crying baby that they shook him? It might even be that the baby didnít die immediately, but died later of his injuries while in the swing. Itís too bad that the case canít be solved in an hour like they are on TV shows. I shutter to contemplate the idea that this girl is still free where she could possibly get pregnant again.
Shadow

Tunkhannock, PA

#220 Nov 18, 2008
OkieLinduh wrote:
Whatever happened Shadow and however it happened that day in my mind is of little difference. No matter who killed that innocent little baby and how the events unfolded there were 4 adults in that nasty feces covered drug den of neglect. 4 grown people that between all of them could not manage to feed care and protect a tiny baby and a puppy. So wrapped up in their own selfish pathetic lives that they couldn't be bothered with the care of these 2 precious lives. I do not sympathize with any one of the 4 of them. They are all guilty in my mind. And all 4 deserve the same punishment. And I think we both agree on that! And I sure hope the state steps in and removes the younger daughter from this den of iniquity and tries to save her before it is too late for her too.
I agree with you 100 million percent. They are low life's and deserve to be punished for the harm they have and did cause. Maybe there will be a God in this one and have everything in favor of the innocent baby and not the druggies.
Shadow

Tunkhannock, PA

#221 Nov 18, 2008
Mee wrote:
There are a couple of ďhintsĒ in this story that could lead one to think the baby may have already been dead before the puppy did the damage. The girl says that she was tired after being up with the baby since 4 AM. The police report states that she seemed more concerned with getting her rest than taking care of the baby. Could it be that she (or someone else in the house) became so agitated at the crying baby that they shook him? It might even be that the baby didnít die immediately, but died later of his injuries while in the swing. Itís too bad that the case canít be solved in an hour like they are on TV shows. I shutter to contemplate the idea that this girl is still free where she could possibly get pregnant again.
I agree shaking him or suffocation one or the other! And I still say the grandfather was handed the baby and told to put him in the swing as he was heading out the door by his mother and told him I have to go to the bathroom and I will be right out knowing the baby was dead. BUT SHE never went back out to be with the baby at all. I think she baited the puppy with something in the diaper to intice him into going after the bait and make it look like he killed the baby. This is what I have thought all along. The puppy was hungry and took the bait!!!

And if this is how it happened and the grandfather just thought he was asleep and putting him in the swing until she came out then he was another fool used by her. He probably actually did think he was asleep he was in a hurry to leave for work never noticed I bet!
W Moore

Owasso, OK

#223 Nov 18, 2008
I still think since the Office of Juvenile Affairs and DHS were already involved in this case they had oversight responsibility. And how many children in Ok. have died when DHS was involved, far too many. And what about the DA not following through on the two arrest for drugs near a school? There were "red flags" all around this case, why didn't anyone pay attention?
ohhhh

Tulsa, OK

#224 Nov 18, 2008
Shadow wrote:
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I agree shaking him or suffocation one or the other! And I still say the grandfather was handed the baby and told to put him in the swing as he was heading out the door by his mother and told him I have to go to the bathroom and I will be right out knowing the baby was dead. BUT SHE never went back out to be with the baby at all. I think she baited the puppy with something in the diaper to intice him into going after the bait and make it look like he killed the baby. This is what I have thought all along. The puppy was hungry and took the bait!!!
And if this is how it happened and the grandfather just thought he was asleep and putting him in the swing until she came out then he was another fool used by her. He probably actually did think he was asleep he was in a hurry to leave for work never noticed I bet!
I think the mom was an idiot that left a baby who had messed his diaper and the hungry dog took it from there.
Mee

Prince George, VA

#225 Nov 18, 2008
ohhhh wrote:
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I think the mom was an idiot that left a baby who had messed his diaper and the hungry dog took it from there.
You're probably right. I was just suggesting another possible scenario. No matter what the circumstances, an innocent child is gone. But if there's proof that something happened to the baby before the puppy got hold of him, it could make a difference in what kind of charges are filed. I just hope that justice is done.
Tulsa Pagan

Oklahoma City, OK

#226 Nov 18, 2008
W Moore wrote:
I still think since the Office of Juvenile Affairs and DHS were already involved in this case they had oversight responsibility. And how many children in Ok. have died when DHS was involved, far too many. And what about the DA not following through on the two arrest for drugs near a school? There were "red flags" all around this case, why didn't anyone pay attention?
Is it your life's work to bash that agency to shards? We all know it is not perfect but your ten billion bashes are getting old now.
Shadow

Tunkhannock, PA

#227 Nov 18, 2008
Tulsa Pagan wrote:
<quoted text>Is it your life's work to bash that agency to shards? We all know it is not perfect but your ten billion bashes are getting old now.
It is all the agency's that do this.Not just where you are!!

Unfortunately the ones that deserve to be watched and have a history of crimes commited with records that should not have the children are the ones that are actually keeping and getting there children. Agency slips again!

Then you have the other scenerio !
The ones accused of abuse and neglect that are not actually true they go in and remove the children Guilty until proven innocent theroy 2 screwed up things that need to be corrected.

Bash the agencies you bet!
W Moore

United States

#228 Nov 19, 2008
Shadow wrote:
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It is all the agency's that do this.Not just where you are!!
Unfortunately the ones that deserve to be watched and have a history of crimes commited with records that should not have the children are the ones that are actually keeping and getting there children. Agency slips again!
Then you have the other scenerio !
The ones accused of abuse and neglect that are not actually true they go in and remove the children Guilty until proven innocent theroy 2 screwed up things that need to be corrected.
Bash the agencies you bet!
Yes this is a nationwide problem. Many sites like the American Family Rights Association, fightcps.com , legallykidnapped.com , kidjacked.com , connecticutdcfwatch.com , and others provide much information on the subject.
Here in Ok. so much has come out regarding the deaths of children in custody, DHS employees committing crimes, children put or left in dangerous placements that have died, failing to pay proper reimbursements to foster parents, lack of proper legal representation of children in abuse/neglect cases, and other issues have resulted in a class action lawsuit,(which some think is a sham), legislative hearings,(closed to the public),and a performance audit by an outside firm at a cost of $420,000 to the taxpayers,(to avoid? a state audit like the one that resulted in the firing of the director of the Office of Juvenile Affairs two years ago over the issue of $20mil in "questionable" contracts?). There are many issues in our state that few are aware of that have effect on the safety of a great many children, and if not dealt with properly to bring accountability to our system then the long record of failures and child deaths will continue. And we will continue paying out large sums in lawsuits instead of it going to benefit children.

W. Moore,
Oklahoma Family rights Association.

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