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Tulsa Police Department Moving Forward With Recruitment Plans

There are 43 comments on the News on 6 Tulsa story from Jul 26, 2010, titled Tulsa Police Department Moving Forward With Recruitment Plans. In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

The Tulsa Police Department is looking to hire again, just as another group of laid off officers comes back to the force.

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“Philippians 4:13”

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#21 Jul 27, 2010
Truthstandsout wrote:
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I took my lunch break at a Mexican restaraunt on north sheridan . When I got there a cop had just pulled over a hispanic for running a red light and they where sitting in front of the drive through. I think the customers took off out the back door and the people working there looked really nervous. I got my burito and waved to the cop and he waved back. He didn't have any back up. They make darned good Buritos.
Remind me not to eat there in uniform then, so that I don't get the 'special sauce'.
slimjim

Tulsa, OK

#22 Jul 27, 2010
Truthstandsout wrote:
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I dont think the right wing or the left wing or the middle like crime and drug dealers or corruption in the TPD. It's not about politics but about right and wrong.
I totally disagree, the RIGHT WINGERS always blame the LIBERALS for there mistakes, but appointed republican judges are setting aside legal cases and putting convicts on the streets. The republicans stacked the SUPREME COURT and a hanging chad gave us W.

Since: Jul 09

Pryor

#23 Jul 27, 2010
tpdlawdog wrote:
<quoted text>TPD already looks outside the city for recruits, and regularly hires from other states. One problem with hiring from other states is that many don't require bachelor degrees. Therefore, some prospective recruits can't apply here even if they are already in law enforcement.
The idea that the TPD is a better department because it only hires those with college degrees has obviously been proven wrong. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be a consideration. Too bad there isn't a way to measure a persons moral character and integrity. I can tell you right now that there are a whole bunch of excellent professional and quality applicants out there, inside and outside the state, that won't get to even bat much less get to first base because they don't have a degree. Men and women who have proven themselves on the front line of the war on crime and yet don't "qualify". Men and women who have exemplary service records in the military and respected departments. Maybe it's time to reconsider the "degree required" issue.

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#24 Jul 27, 2010
I would think that the recent layoffs and the negotiations via the media would cause applicants to think twice about coming to work for the City of Tulsa.
Another Known Fact

Tulsa, OK

#25 Jul 27, 2010
You have got to be kidding me. We have no money for officers and lay them off, then oh we might have money, so we bring them back, we hear we only have enough money to bring back the laid off officers and that it will work out since some are choosing not to return. Now you want us to think you have the extra money to hire more??????? I work in Tulsa, luckily live in Broken Arrow. It is a joke.

The city has lost there damn minds!

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#26 Jul 27, 2010
tpdlawdog wrote:
<quoted text>The police are part of the problem in that we make the broken wheel work, and go to calls by ourselves in which we should always have a backing officer. I would like to see a report with priority response times and report response times. It seems that report response times went up.
Where does the $80,000 per officer come from?

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Perpignan

#27 Jul 27, 2010
blunt force trauma wrote:
I would think that the recent layoffs and the negotiations via the media would cause applicants to think twice about coming to work for the City of Tulsa.
At 18% unemployment nation wide, there will be plenty of college grads looking for employment.......Tulsa should have their pick of the cream of the crop.

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#28 Jul 27, 2010
Kentley wrote:
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The idea that the TPD is a better department because it only hires those with college degrees has obviously been proven wrong. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be a consideration. Too bad there isn't a way to measure a persons moral character and integrity. I can tell you right now that there are a whole bunch of excellent professional and quality applicants out there, inside and outside the state, that won't get to even bat much less get to first base because they don't have a degree. Men and women who have proven themselves on the front line of the war on crime and yet don't "qualify". Men and women who have exemplary service records in the military and respected departments. Maybe it's time to reconsider the "degree required" issue.
TPD has a background packet in which you must fill out eveything all the way back to elementary school teachers, neighbors, numerous references, background work history, etc; and I believe mine was over 20 pages long. We have personality tests that we must pass including the MMPI, background checks on our financial history, and the college degree. There are numrous things we must pass through the academy including DTI, firearms training, and must have over 70% on all tests, and then complete field training. There are numerous ways to weed out 'bad recruits' over this lengthy 18 month process, and yet some bad apples still get through. I don't know what the answer is, but I would not like to see TPD lower requirements.
beezlbub

Tulsa, OK

#29 Jul 27, 2010
tpdlawdog wrote:
<quoted text>TPD has a background packet in which you must fill out eveything all the way back to elementary school teachers, neighbors, numerous references, background work history, etc; and I believe mine was over 20 pages long. We have personality tests that we must pass including the MMPI, background checks on our financial history, and the college degree. There are numrous things we must pass through the academy including DTI, firearms training, and must have over 70% on all tests, and then complete field training. There are numerous ways to weed out 'bad recruits' over this lengthy 18 month process, and yet some bad apples still get through. I don't know what the answer is, but I would not like to see TPD lower requirements.
I wanna be a copper
Truthstandsout

Tulsa, OK

#30 Jul 27, 2010
slimjim wrote:
<quoted text>I totally disagree, the RIGHT WINGERS always blame the LIBERALS for there mistakes, but appointed republican judges are setting aside legal cases and putting convicts on the streets. The republicans stacked the SUPREME COURT and a hanging chad gave us W.
Let me rephrase that.
It shouldnít be about politics.
It should only be about right or wrong.
Ones political affiliation should have nothing to do with doing the right thing.

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#31 Jul 27, 2010
beezlbub wrote:
<quoted text>I wanna be a copper
It's fun. Especially when you get an ex-con/banger with a loaded gun (like last night).
Truthstandsout

Tulsa, OK

#32 Jul 27, 2010
tpdlawdog wrote:
<quoted text>TPD has a background packet in which you must fill out eveything all the way back to elementary school teachers, neighbors, numerous references, background work history, etc; and I believe mine was over 20 pages long. We have personality tests that we must pass including the MMPI, background checks on our financial history, and the college degree. There are numrous things we must pass through the academy including DTI, firearms training, and must have over 70% on all tests, and then complete field training. There are numerous ways to weed out 'bad recruits' over this lengthy 18 month process, and yet some bad apples still get through. I don't know what the answer is, but I would not like to see TPD lower requirements.
Itís all about moral character, which canít be taught in school. There have been lots of respectable lawmen that never had an education. Tulsa has a lot of good cops.
Fat gal

Tulsa, OK

#33 Jul 27, 2010
Oh, geesh, after training all those last officers($$) and then laying them off? Now we have to fork up more $$ to train some more officers that we will lay off and give to Texas? Why that's the same thing we do with teachers!

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#34 Jul 27, 2010
Truthstandsout wrote:
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Itís all about moral character, which canít be taught in school. There have been lots of respectable lawmen that never had an education. Tulsa has a lot of good cops.
I agree.

“Life is Good”

Since: Nov 08

Perpignan

#35 Jul 27, 2010
Truthstandsout wrote:
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Itís all about moral character, which canít be taught in school. There have been lots of respectable lawmen that never had an education. Tulsa has a lot of good cops.
How many over three went to Texas?????????? There is turnover with or without the layoffs.

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#36 Jul 27, 2010
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Where does the $80,000 per officer come from?
I don't know. As I said before, that sounds a little high to me. The article did say that amount was for training and equipment. It did not say what equipment that included.
Bodidly

Pryor, OK

#37 Jul 27, 2010
tpdlawdog wrote:
<quoted text>TPD already looks outside the city for recruits, and regularly hires from other states. One problem with hiring from other states is that many don't require bachelor degrees. Therefore, some prospective recruits can't apply here even if they are already in law enforcement.
I can see the need for the requirement of the Bachelor's Degrees but I am sure there are some well qualified men and women that do not have that Degree..Maybe we are requiring to much education? What do you think?

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#38 Jul 28, 2010
tpdlawdog wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. As I said before, that sounds a little high to me. The article did say that amount was for training and equipment. It did not say what equipment that included.
The reason I ask was it would seem that the vehicle would be a large part of that expense, however if an officer retires, quits, indicted or moves outside the city limits then that car is available to a new officer and the $40,000 would not need to be spent.

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#39 Jul 28, 2010
Bodidly wrote:
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I can see the need for the requirement of the Bachelor's Degrees but I am sure there are some well qualified men and women that do not have that Degree..Maybe we are requiring to much education? What do you think?
I have known several people that would have made good officers, but could not apply because of the degree requirement. Maybe we could allow recruits to use time in military in lieu of the degree....Or lower the education requirements to be an officer, but base the salary on the officer's education and years of service.

“Life is Good”

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#40 Jul 28, 2010
tpdlawdog wrote:
<quoted text>I have known several people that would have made good officers, but could not apply because of the degree requirement. Maybe we could allow recruits to use time in military in lieu of the degree....Or lower the education requirements to be an officer, but base the salary on the officer's education and years of service.
Time in the military should count as it does with civil service test, however that being said, I have seen some in the military that their shooting skills made it to where the safest place to stand was in front of the target.

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