OSU Vet School Alums Respond To Alleg...

OSU Vet School Alums Respond To Allegations

There are 55 comments on the News on 6 Tulsa story from Feb 25, 2009, titled OSU Vet School Alums Respond To Allegations. In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

Local veterinarians are defending their alma mater after billionaire donor Madeleine Pickens called the practices of OSU's veterinarian school "barbaric." Pickens says she plans to take a $5 million donation ...

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cwymom

Tulsa, OK

#1 Feb 25, 2009
Really?
THIS is all Mrs. Madeleine Pickens has to get upset about?

So I’m guessing she’s not worried about paying her light bill or buying groceries.

Good Grief.
mike

Jenks, OK

#2 Feb 25, 2009
They don't need her money, it is possible to raise a lot of money without Ol' T. Boone and Maddy- let her donate it to PETA if she feels that way. Or how about she help stimulate the economy with Pelosi and Obama with some of those billions. What a joke!

“Say it loud and proud.”

Since: Sep 08

Tulsa, OK

#3 Feb 25, 2009
Exactly..what joke someone who doesn't even see what is done first hand. Please.
DUHmb

Tulsa, OK

#4 Feb 25, 2009
This is a case of someone with too much money and time on their hands. get a life lady. we can't be bought at osu.
enlightenment

Oklahoma City, OK

#7 Feb 25, 2009
I would like to see the school use the rescued animals that have health issues to practice their skills. If the dog has no owner and it needs surgery to repair a broken leg from being hit by a car, that may be worth it to all concerned. I don't see any harm in using some cadavers instead of all live animals, but all medical students need some living patients. I think the school must be top notch because I've met some great doctors from there.
noodles

Oklahoma City, OK

#9 Feb 25, 2009
JC of Nazareth wrote:
I got a letter from the Dean of the Vet school today defending their methods, and it made me sick. He's Josef Mengele in this canine holocaust. A sick, sick man.
JC get a clue! These students work on more than canines! They work on small and large animals. Besides, they wouldn't be sending a letter to Jesus, they'd be praying to Him. That's how I know you aren't the real Jesus! tee-hee-hee
Teri

Tulsa, OK

#10 Feb 25, 2009
What I don't understand is why they can't use strays from animal shelters that are planning to be euthanized anyway instead of supporting breeders that raise animals just for the purpose of use at vet school. I think that it is sad that there is a market for companion animals just for anatomical models. This would also save the school money and no matter how sad it is, there are just so many stray animals out there that not all of them will find a home or are even placeable

Since: Feb 09

United States

#11 Feb 25, 2009
This isn't any worse than the research facilities at most teaching hospitals or universities where they have animals in cages with little gadgets attached to their brains through a hole in their skull to monitor their brain activity after being injected with some virus or bacterium or given some medication to test for a drug company. Rabbits,cats,dogs,chimps,lab rats and mice. It's all for the good of science, they say. If the live animals he is doing surgery on need the surgery then fine,go ahead and assist a student in the surgery...BUT if the surgery is being done on these animals without anesthesia or on an animal that does not need it then YES this practice needs to be looked into. Especially if the procedure is botched and the animal suffers pain and has to be euthanized, then yes it needs to be stopped because it is intense cruelty to animals.
Big Turnips

Jay, OK

#12 Feb 26, 2009
Sounds like blackmail to me.
TumblingDice

Tulsa, OK

#13 Feb 26, 2009
It's not necessary to have this debate, as if the parties involved can't actually meet, speak, and settle on what the truth of the matter is. It's all pretty verifiable or refutable. Let us know how it turns out after that happens.
John Actually in Tulsa

Atlanta, GA

#14 Feb 26, 2009
What is wrong with opening this school up to the public and making arrangements to have surgical procedures done?. Im sure there are a lot of pets out there that need surgery from being spayed or nutured or even cancerous tumers. Stop keeping these puppy mills in business. Im all for her to take that money away from them untill they straighten their act up.
daawg

Tulsa, OK

#15 Feb 26, 2009
Given she is a major contributor to the school and she is passionate about the way they are handling things she is certainly entitled to speak up whether or not it makes sense to any of us. My dad was a vet and I'm sure it would have made sense to him to operate on live animals. She's on the other side of the coin. OSU just has to consider whether or not her coin is going to dictate how they run their program. Pretty simple really
just1ndn

Broken Arrow, OK

#16 Feb 26, 2009
Would you like to have your pet operated on by someone who has never done surgery? Not me. I guess it's equivalent to having your hair cut by someone without a license yet, but this is a living being we're talking about.
John Actually in Tulsa wrote:
What is wrong with opening this school up to the public and making arrangements to have surgical procedures done?. Im sure there are a lot of pets out there that need surgery from being spayed or nutured or even cancerous tumers. Stop keeping these puppy mills in business. Im all for her to take that money away from them untill they straighten their act up.
John Actually in Tulsa

Atlanta, GA

#17 Feb 26, 2009
Just like any other training facility, a student is overseen by a licensed person. It would be like going to the medical school and students practice but with supervision or like going to the beauty college to have your hair done. Its overseen by licensed people.
Lynn

Claremore, OK

#18 Feb 26, 2009
They should be helping animals in the community not collecting,disecting, and disgarding them like they were trash. Just because they have been doing it that way with no one complaining until now doesn't make it right.

Since: Apr 08

AOL

#19 Feb 26, 2009
I am not sure how I feel about this.
Dog Owner

Tulsa, OK

#20 Feb 26, 2009
John Actually in Tulsa wrote:
What is wrong with opening this school up to the public and making arrangements to have surgical procedures done?. Im sure there are a lot of pets out there that need surgery from being spayed or nutured or even cancerous tumers. Stop keeping these puppy mills in business. Im all for her to take that money away from them untill they straighten their act up.
They are open to the public and take appointments like any other vet does. They have a small animal section as well as a large/food animal section. They also take emergancies after hours. I am not in favor of "inhumane" treatment at all....however the students do need to practice. There are wonderful vets that graduate from OSU!!! However...there are also others that graduate that can't even do a simple blood draw from a dog for a heartworm test. So I would suggest that they be allowed to practice at school as much as possible before they point the needle or scalple in MY dog's direction!!

“Pepé & Titan”

Since: Jul 08

Tulsa-Jenks

#21 Feb 26, 2009
John Actually in Tulsa wrote:
Just like any other training facility, a student is overseen by a licensed person. It would be like going to the medical school and students practice but with supervision or like going to the beauty college to have your hair done. Its overseen by licensed people.
I agree John. However, I do not think that this is a total solution to the issue. Maybe they can incorporate that along with the dogs they already get other ways to cut down.

Sometimes gold diggers just need to be quiet and pretty. Most however just know how to run their mouths. Is it her donations being made by his money?**rolls eyes**

I think Mr. Pickens is an forward thinking, giving, and very smart man. Too bad his wife isn't the same in female form.
Okiegal

Tulsa, OK

#22 Feb 26, 2009
Teri wrote:
What I don't understand is why they can't use strays from animal shelters that are planning to be euthanized anyway instead of supporting breeders that raise animals just for the purpose of use at vet school. I think that it is sad that there is a market for companion animals just for anatomical models. This would also save the school money and no matter how sad it is, there are just so many stray animals out there that not all of them will find a home or are even placeable
I agree..... It all sad. People just suck!
Concerned

Claremore, OK

#23 Feb 26, 2009
I agree why can't they open up to the public. So that the public can take their sick animals to the vet school. Large or small animals. That is what Iowa State University Vet school does. If you have a sick animal or need a surgery done you take your animal there they do the surgery and you pay the bill. It's a win win situation for everyone.
John Actually in Tulsa wrote:
What is wrong with opening this school up to the public and making arrangements to have surgical procedures done?. Im sure there are a lot of pets out there that need surgery from being spayed or nutured or even cancerous tumers. Stop keeping these puppy mills in business. Im all for her to take that money away from them untill they straighten their act up.

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