Migrants say Arizona worth risk of crossing

Aug 31, 2010 Full story: El Paso Times 332

Hector Ortega stumbled across the body of a fellow migrant as he walked across Arizona's harsh desert in the searing summer heat.

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Juan

Pearland, TX

#363 Jan 3, 2011
Brian Davis of tombstone wrote:
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Then what would we call the new border patrol ?
Wouldn't need them.

We'd call it "North American Union"

Since: Dec 10

Tucson, AZ

#364 Jan 4, 2011
They want to leave one broken country to come to another broken country. Here they can come and be just as poor. There's no jobs for them in Arizona. There's no jobs for the citizens of Arizona alone. Soon, the freebee programs aren't going to exist anymore because the collapse of our economy and the erosion of our country. If they want to come over here, they need to start paying taxes. That would greatly help the state and the country. You have some 20 million people living off of the land but not contributing to the land, of course that's going to hurt. I work in a hospital close to the border, and it is full of illegals using fake IDs. Arizona tax payers pay for this, and health care isn't cheap. May be free for them, but has broken the the state for everyone else. You're not going to stop them from coming over, so you might as well give them an ID card and have them start paying taxes. That's really the only solution right now.
Mothra

Saint Helens, OR

#365 Jan 4, 2011
"Migrants say Arizona worth risk of crossing"

Sounds to me like Arizona needs to do more to increase the risk of crossing...

Not like the feds are going to do it.
Muff Daddy

Pearland, TX

#366 Jan 4, 2011
Maybe release afew pitbulls along the fence.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#367 Jan 4, 2011
A_Libertarian wrote:
You're not going to stop them from coming over, so you might as well give them an ID card and have them start paying taxes. That's really the only solution right now.
We here in Arizona will do plenty to stop them. We also refuse to succumb to the spineless mentality you propose..
I am sure it will come to a "civil war" of sorts.

Since: Dec 10

Tucson, AZ

#368 Jan 4, 2011
Phrank wrote:
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We here in Arizona will do plenty to stop them. We also refuse to succumb to the spineless mentality you propose..
I am sure it will come to a "civil war" of sorts.
Ya, I live here in Arizona...we have wide open borders...you're not going to stop them that way. Such hate in your comment. You really want a war? Sounds like you're calling for people to kill other people.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#369 Jan 4, 2011
A_Libertarian wrote:
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Ya, I live here in Arizona...we have wide open borders...you're not going to stop them that way. Such hate in your comment. You really want a war? Sounds like you're calling for people to kill other people.
I pray everyday for a war with mexico. It is the only way this country will start to treat these infesting vermin like what they are, foreign invaders. Yep a war with mexico would be perfect.

Since: Jan 11

Milton, MA

#370 Jan 4, 2011
Phrank wrote:
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I pray everyday for a war with mexico. It is the only way this country will start to treat these infesting vermin like what they are, foreign invaders. Yep a war with mexico would be perfect.
Clearly logic fails you. The only thing we'd accomplished by going to war with Mexico would be a massive influx of migrants seeking asylum / refugee in the US. Why would you want to destroy their infrastructure and leave their citizens with no choice but to come to the US? We already have a huge issue with Mexican illegal aliens sneaking into the US. The war you propose would only exasperate the problem.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#371 Jan 4, 2011
Deece_ wrote:
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Clearly logic fails you. The only thing we'd accomplished by going to war with Mexico would be a massive influx of migrants seeking asylum / refugee in the US. Why would you want to destroy their infrastructure and leave their citizens with no choice but to come to the US? We already have a huge issue with Mexican illegal aliens sneaking into the US. The war you propose would only exasperate the problem.
Re think it. Keep trying.
denalano

El Paso, TX

#372 Jan 4, 2011
These people need money. I have a way to help them. When they start earning money in their own country,everyone will be happy.

Since: Jan 11

Milton, MA

#373 Jan 4, 2011
Phrank wrote:
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Re think it. Keep trying.
The people who reside in Mexico aren't our problem, it's the millions of Mexican citizens who live illegally in the US. Learn to pick your battles.

If we decimate Mexico, we're stuck with the illegals who are already here because there'll be nowhere to deport them. War with Mexico is not the solution to illegal immigration. You think the southwestern states have an illegal alien problem today? Just wait and see what would happen in a war with Mexico.

At least try to be a reasonable, logical person.
larrupin larry

AOL

#374 Jan 4, 2011
Best off not.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#375 Jan 5, 2011
Deece_ wrote:
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The people who reside in Mexico aren't our problem, it's the millions of Mexican citizens who live illegally in the US. Learn to pick your battles.
If we decimate Mexico, we're stuck with the illegals who are already here because there'll be nowhere to deport them. War with Mexico is not the solution to illegal immigration. You think the southwestern states have an illegal alien problem today? Just wait and see what would happen in a war with Mexico.
At least try to be a reasonable, logical person.
Re think it. Try again. And hey, this is the last time. I do not hold myself responsible for your ignorance and thus will not waste my time trying to debate.
zorro america

Sarasota, FL

#376 Jan 5, 2011
Phrank wrote:
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Re think it. Try again. And hey, this is the last time. I do not hold myself responsible for your ignorance and thus will not waste my time trying to debate.
ur so stupid to waste time on. as i can see , there are more stupid americans like you.we would loose a war again amigo.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#377 Jan 5, 2011
zorro america wrote:
<quoted text>ur so stupid to waste time on. as i can see , there are more stupid americans like you.we would loose a war again amigo.
Get a life Rico.
not sure

Morristown, TN

#378 Jan 5, 2011
Deece_ wrote:
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Clearly logic fails you. The only thing we'd accomplished by going to war with Mexico would be a massive influx of migrants seeking asylum / refugee in the US. Why would you want to destroy their infrastructure and leave their citizens with no choice but to come to the US? We already have a huge issue with Mexican illegal aliens sneaking into the US. The war you propose would only exasperate the problem.
hELLO, You just described the usa now.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#379 Jan 5, 2011
Some more of that wonderful mexican ethos;;;;;

Severed head hung from bridge in Tijuana, Mexico

TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) The severed head of a young man was found hanging from a bridge in the Mexican border city of Tijuana on Monday.

The Baja California state attorney general's office said the head belonged to a man between 25 and 30 years old.

It had several bullet wounds and was hung using a metallic ring and a nylon rope. A threatening message was found nearby on the bridge.

Hours earlier, a woman between 30 and 35 years old was found shot to death in another Tijuana neighborhood, also with a threatening message left nearby.

Authorities have blamed recent cartel-style violence in Tijuana on feuding between rivals and loyalists of Teodoro "El Teo" Garcia Simental, an alleged drug lord arrested last January.

Farther east along Mexico's border with the United States, Mexican soldiers on Monday found an unfinished tunnel under a house in the city of Nogales, across from Nogales, Arizona.

The army's 45th Military Zone command said the tunnel was dug about 5 feet beneath the surface and stretched almost 100 feet, apparently just far enough to reach U.S. territory.

The command said in a statement the tunnel ended abruptly and had probably been intended to move drugs across the border.

The mouth of the tunnel was found in one of the rooms of the house in Mexico, which appeared abandoned. There were no arrests nor were any drugs found at the scene.

Nogales is located in northern Sonora state, and on Monday unidentified gunmen shot to death the state's interim prison director, Erasto Ortiz Valencia, outside his home.

State prosecutors' spokesman Jose Larrinaga said Ortiz Valencia died of three bullet wounds. He had been in office only 10 days when he died; his predecessor was fired after he was linked to the escape of a murder suspect.

The assistant police chief of the city of Empalme, near the coastal city of Guaymas, was also shot to death Monday by a gunmen who fired an assault rifle from an SUV.

In the Pacific coast state of Guerrero, police reported Monday that two boys ages 14 and 17 were shot to death in the remote mountain town of Alcozahuca, near the Oaxaca state line.

The assailants fled after killing the boys with assault rifles late Sunday. While there was no immediate evidence the killings were drug-related, Mexican cartels have been recruiting youths as young as 14.

Also in Guerrero, police in the resort of Acapulco reported Monday they had found the bound bodies of four young men dumped on a main boulevard.

The men had been killed with guns and knives and were found blindfolded and their hands or feet tied. Handwritten messages of the kind frequently left by drug cartels were found near the bodies, but Guerrero state police, in keeping with policy, did not release the contents of those messages.
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tucson yipper

Tucson, AZ

#380 Jan 5, 2011
I agree
Afghan Vet

El Paso, TX

#381 Jan 5, 2011
Illegal Aliens say its worth the risk. Do they even read or understand what they are heading for? There is nothing here for them. Make your own country better for you and your families. Take pride in your homelands.
and I agree some more

Germany

#382 Jan 5, 2011
yes

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