Christanity vs. Dinosaurs & pehistori...

Christanity vs. Dinosaurs & pehistoric man

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anyone

Tucson, AZ

#1 May 5, 2007
Can someone explain to me this riddle that's been nagging me for most of my adult life ? How can/does the accounts of what the bible states in regards to adam and eve and the beginning of time and creation .,that's written therein., fit into the Dinosaur bones and the prehistoric man that we know roamed the earth .. Please someone give me some insights or info of where I can fit these together ..
We have found the bones of the dinosaur and prehistoric man .. But why is/was it so hard to believe that we found Jesus' tomb ? Not that I believe it was or wasnt, but I cannot believe we cant find anything that relates to him while he was here .. The rumor is that Jesus had risen on the third day and decended into heaven .. Well it had always been MY thought that they were talking about his soul/spirit .. not his physical body ..
Wouldnt it have given some credence to Jesus and the Bible if we could find hard evidence, like that of the dinosaur bones and the bones of early man to validate the bible .. thanks for reading my post and if someone can help me make sense of this riddle., I would be grateful ..
whtevr

Tucson, AZ

#2 May 5, 2007
Can someone explain to me this riddle that's been nagging me for most of my adult life ? How can/does the accounts of what the bible states in regards to adam and eve and the beginning of time and creation .,that's written therein., fit into the Dinosaur bones and the prehistoric man that we know roamed the earth .. Please someone give me some insights or info of where I can fit these together ..
We have found the bones of the dinosaur and prehistoric man .. But why is/was it so hard to believe that we found Jesus' tomb ? Not that I believe it was or wasnt, but I cannot believe we cant find anything that relates to him while he was here .. The rumor is that Jesus had risen on the third day and decended into heaven .. Well it had always been MY thought that they were talking about his soul/spirit .. not his physical body ..
Wouldnt it have given some credence to Jesus and the Bible if we could find hard evidence, like that of the dinosaur bones and the bones of early man to validate the bible .. thanks for reading my post and if someone can help me make sense of this riddle., I would be grateful
reconcile guy

Tucson, AZ

#3 May 5, 2007
There are biblical accounts of dinosaurs. As far as the pre-historic man, tales and archaeological finds have been stretched and twisted to fit into the evolution scheme. Jesus arose bodily, not just spiritually. He showed himself to Thomas and he had marks from the crucifixion. People touched him on numerous ocaisions. Therefore there would be no Tomb with his bones, because he took them with him to heaven.
reconcile guy

Tucson, AZ

#4 May 5, 2007
here is the story of the most famous hoax..the skull of a man, merged with an orangutang and stained orange to make it look old.....

"......A skull that had been discovered in England offered proof of the theory that man first evolved as an apelike creature with a huge brain.

The skull also demonstrated that modern man began as an Englishman, which fit nicely with conventional wisdom.
But the skull, called the Piltdown Man, was a hoax....."

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story...
Don Prince

Tucson, AZ

#5 May 7, 2007
Easy answer, the story of Jesus, like the Genesis creation story, is one of the biggest frauds perpetrated in human society since the dawn of man (by which we mean the point at which the human species evolved from Homo ancestors).

There's no reconciliation needed, and none to be made. Jesus, in terms of the supernatural stuff, didn't happen, the dinosaurs did arise and go extinct millions of years ago. Both conclusions follow from the facts, as we have them. End of story and have a great day.
whtevr

Green Valley, AZ

#6 May 10, 2007
Thanks to the ones that wrote in referance to that question ..
It all still puzzles me tho., I thought I'd never loose my faith ..

I was raised as a Baptist and was strong in my belief .. But now that I am much older , I have doubts as to how accurate the bible really is ..

What about Ghosts/Spirits ? how do they fit into things ? not to mention UFO's .. that is if one believes there out there .. Well., I just dont understand why theres all these different branchs of religion if theres only one god .. and why would a god allow the things that are happening to us and our planet without doing something to help .. god is love .. I hear that alot but ....
R-Man

Tucson, AZ

#7 May 10, 2007
I look at the bible and the story of Jesus as just that a story with morals... Who knows or cares if it is true or not, that really isn't the issue. We should focus on what it is teaching us, and reflect on our values. I don't believe in god/jesus but I value the bible and its lessons, much the same as I value the story of Santa clause "be good or no toys"
John Doe

Tucson, AZ

#8 May 15, 2007
I don't understand why some christians have to be threatened by the idea of natural history.

If your basing your faith on idea that the bible is literally true then your goin to have to start being more flexible. Just because life evolved does not neccesarily mean there is no higher inteligence behind. We still don't understand fully how evolution works, or how life started, but there is no reason to be afraid of it.

Understanding how the natural world works is a good thing, and we should stop making up science in order to make a book written almost 2000 years ago sound exactly true. We should promote sound scientific study of the universe, for the sake of our children at least.
Ned

Tucson, AZ

#9 Jun 15, 2007
The falsehoods of dinosaurs are planted by God to test your blind faith. Dinosaurs are not real, nor are fossil fuels. Your internal combustion engine driven car does not run on the carbon left on the planet by million year old dead animals and plants, it runs on blind faith! Stop questioning God and start hating homosexuals, it's the Christian way.
Lariet

AOL

#10 Jun 16, 2007
whtevr wrote:
Can someone explain to me this riddle that's been nagging me for most of my adult life ? How can/does the accounts of what the bible states in regards to adam and eve and the beginning of time and creation .,that's written therein., fit into the Dinosaur bones and the prehistoric man that we know roamed the earth .. Please someone give me some insights or info of where I can fit these together ..
We have found the bones of the dinosaur and prehistoric man .. But why is/was it so hard to believe that we found Jesus' tomb ? Not that I believe it was or wasnt, but I cannot believe we cant find anything that relates to him while he was here .. The rumor is that Jesus had risen on the third day and decended into heaven .. Well it had always been MY thought that they were talking about his soul/spirit .. not his physical body ..
Wouldnt it have given some credence to Jesus and the Bible if we could find hard evidence, like that of the dinosaur bones and the bones of early man to validate the bible .. thanks for reading my post and if someone can help me make sense of this riddle., I would be grateful
Maybe this will help bro. Having faith in God is a biggy with him. He is not obligated to show evidence of his existence to people. But he will to those who are seeking him, not the evidence of him.
The problem here is that you are looking for "hard evidence", and God operates differently.
I wouldn't debate God on this one, since he is God and I am not. I mean, he has existed forever without me. He doesn't need me to get things done.
However, when I began really trying to KNOW him on a personal level,(by the tiny bit of faith that I had at the time, that's when he began to reveal himself to me.
He will do the same for you. So, don't give up. It's not as hard as your making it. Just resist trying to figure God out that way, by inquiring about dinasaur bones and the like and begin seeking to know HIM.

"He that has my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself unto him." John 14

See, he will make manifest, or himself known.It's a supernatural faith deal, that transcends the natural mind. Some here would call it blind faith, but it's not blind, but supernatural. That's because God is supernatural.:)

http://www.blueletterbible.org/
Ned

Tucson, AZ

#11 Jun 17, 2007
"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord". Which, in general, is every nation. As much as every religion tries to deny it, religion is by nature, exclusionary. God is a segregationist according to nearly every religion, including your Christianity. God demands that you get to know him on his terms, according to every thing in the bible except the few words spoken by Christ. If God demands you follow his terms, why wouldn't you question the stuff you see around you. According to your leading pulpiteers, get it right or burn for eternity.

Don't blow the call on the dinosaurs, your eternal soul my hinge upon it.

Better yet, stop thinking for yourself, stop debating the world around you, start accepting the supernatural blindly, and you'll be saved. Just don't forget to hate the homosexuals.
Ned

Tucson, AZ

#12 Jun 17, 2007
All sarcastic teasing aside, I support the general them here. Know God personally, forget the factual inconsistencies in religious texts and live true to the universe around you. If you need to believe in God to form your perception of the universe, observe the universe to know God. Find him where He finds you.

I see a God who let's innocent children die in gutters every day, while wicked men thrive. God seems to support the "Me first" mentality. I don't support that, which makes me anti God in many ways.

Live well, help as many as you can, good luck with God vs. Dinosaurs, it doesn't really matter.
Arizonian
#13 Jul 1, 2007
I agree with John Doe and Ned. I believe in a Creator, not the god of every religion that claims that THEIR god is the only god. The Creator is the god of everyone, it has no name or sex or evil designs. It created and left us alone, and gave us the ability to do good or bad. Perhaps someday we will be rewarded or punished for those deeds, but I think the likeliest scenario is that we will die and that will be the end of us.

Stop wondering and lead your life according to your conscience. If your conscience nags you, that means you've done wrong.

I believe that the bible is a composite of all the other religions that existed before. Even the old testament and the new disagree with each other. There is a difference of night and day between the old testament god and the new testament god, the first is bloodthirsty and vicious and the second is all forgiving and loving. And the bible says the world is about 5000 years old whereas we all know it's more like 5 billion years old. You can't deny facts. And trusting with your eyes and mind shut is just plain dumb. You can believe in God and still believe in science facts.
james grace

United States

#14 Jul 5, 2007
in a time of senseless killing and conquering way way back, i believe there needed to be some type of change people were most likely tired of bloodshed and violence .the bible did just that, it took the mass and gave them a set of practical values and morals all good. however, through time the love and peace the bible generated was soon taken out of text by greed just like damn near everything else on this little blue marble. so what you end up with is thousands of years worth of pounding the book of standards you end up with the "ducks in a row effect" still ok if you want to eventually through evolution adapt into enslavement. its a money control thing that the lower mass has absolutly no control over. to bad, there are basic strong values in the book. nothing good ever lasts just look back in time .live your life based on your feelings as you learn through time ,good feels good,right ? helping others feels right .thats something were born with. when you go against our givin grain it tweeks our sensors.either way we are only here for a flash in time. make the best of it!!
james grace

United States

#15 Jul 6, 2007
james grace wrote:
in a time of senseless killing and conquering way way back, i believe there needed to be some type of change people were most likely tired of bloodshed and violence .the bible did just that, it took the mass and gave them a set of practical values and morals all good. however, through time the love and peace the bible generated was soon taken out of text by greed just like damn near everything else on this little blue marble. so what you end up with is thousands of years worth of pounding the book of standards you end up with the "ducks in a row effect" still ok if you want to eventually through evolution adapt into enslavement. its a money control thing that the lower mass has absolutly no control over. to bad, there are basic strong values in the book. nothing good ever lasts just look back in time .live your life based on your feelings as you learn through time ,good feels good,right ? helping others feels right .thats something were born with. when you go against our givin grain it tweeks our sensors.either way we are only here for a flash in time. make the best of it!!
that is all
james grace

United States

#16 Jul 6, 2007
i think i chose the wrong site to exprees myself. oh well ill just keep to myself, thanks and have a happy and smooth life
don

Voluntari, Romania

#17 Jul 11, 2007
[They simply don't fit because the bible is based only on jewish oral and written history and myth

the bible version of creation is just overhyped myth
no different then myans believe in sun god or egyptian the same or japinese peoiple beelieving that their emperor and people descended from the sun god so I hope I didn,t ruin Christmass and Santa clause for you to but most of the bible is myth and fanasty sorry but its reality.
Tyrone

Columbus, GA

#18 Sep 27, 2007
We seem to spend alot of time talking about a
God we can't have a two way conversation in real time. To me this leaves alot of distortions and make believe. Where would it get man if we spent all our time worshipping an all powerful being that obviously get its jollys from the unquestionable adoration from flawed man? This did not do man much good in the dark ages. Only education in the sciences made life more comfortable. It seem to me that churchs has the same impact on depressed areas as liquor stores. Go into any poor area and what you find are churchs, liquor stores, and drug dealers. What they all have in common is they dumb down the mind of humans.
Tonya

Missoula, MT

#19 Oct 20, 2007
Ned wrote:
The falsehoods of dinosaurs are planted by God to test your blind faith. Dinosaurs are not real, nor are fossil fuels. Your internal combustion engine driven car does not run on the carbon left on the planet by million year old dead animals and plants, it runs on blind faith! Stop questioning God and start hating homosexuals, it's the Christian way.
Are you for real? If you are a christian, how can you say to hate anyone? I don't believe in homosexuality, but I also believe that it is a true sin to hate or show hate to anyone. No one but God can pass judgement. What you need to do, as I do, is pray for all sinners. As for the original question, I have thought about this a lot. For myself, I have come to the conclusion that all things can't be answered. If you have faith, you don't need answers. I certainly can't explain how dinosaurs fit in with the bible. No one on this earth can explain that. I don't think that you can only believe in the bible or science. I think that there is a mixture. I hope this helped you. May God bless.
curious and seaking

Somerset, PA

#20 Oct 23, 2007
Don Prince wrote:
Easy answer, the story of Jesus, like the Genesis creation story, is one of the biggest frauds perpetrated in human society since the dawn of man (by which we mean the point at which the human species evolved from Homo ancestors).
There's no reconciliation needed, and none to be made. Jesus, in terms of the supernatural stuff, didn't happen, the dinosaurs did arise and go extinct millions of years ago. Both conclusions follow from the facts, as we have them. End of story and have a great day.
In my search for some answers that I would like to know in order to make a conscience decision about religion, I have found that as we know Dinasaurs did exist, their remains are there for all to see but they are mentioned in the Bible numerous times by various writers and their existance does not conflict with biblical teaching at all.

Also there has never been a cross-over type of species of any kind from any ape-like creature ever. A question that I would like evolutionists to answer is; "Where is this sect of "cross-overs" located now"?...Why all of a sudden did these apes stop "crossing-over"? And if they are located somewhere, I would like to find out why we are still not evolving into something greater than man? Sorry for the silliness there, but obviously we didn't evolve, but we came from somewhere.

The "Big Bang Theory" is no longer accepted by science...so where? That is why I am looking to a greater power or religion.

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