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Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public

There are 2428 comments on the CBS News story from Nov 30, 2012, titled Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public. In it, CBS News reports that:

President Barack Obama delivers remarks about extending tax cuts for middle class people during an event in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building November 28, 2012 in Washington, DC.

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Guess Who

Mountain Home, AR

#2057 Dec 28, 2012
smackalibtoday wrote:
Here are 10 ways your money could be affected if there is no deal reached by the end of the year:
Your Income Tax Rates Will Go Up The expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts on Dec. 31 means nearly every American taxpayer will see their rates go up when the rates go back to their 2001 levels. President Obama’s plan to avert the cliff includes keeping the current rates for middle- and low-income earners, while allowing the rates to increase for the highest income levels from 35 to 39.6 percent. Republicans have pushed to keep the tax cuts for everyone.
Your 2012 Tax Bill Will Be Huge the Social Security payroll tax holiday expires on Dec. 31, raising the rate from 4.2 to 6.2 percent.
Your Tax Refund Will Be Delayed
Your Kids Will Cost You More Money Among the tax credits that expire on Dec. 31 are several that help lower- and middle-income families with kids, including the Child Tax Credit, Earned Income Tax Credit,
You Cannot Collect Extended Unemployment
Your Stocks Could Wobble The stock market tumbled on Thursday after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said it looked like the the country was going to go over the fiscal cliff. Uncertainty over taxes could create more market volatility,
If You Use Medicare, It Will Be Harder To Find A Doctor One of the spending cuts that will be enacted on Jan. 1 is a 30 percent reduction in the rates Medicare pays doctors.
Finding A New Job Will Be More Difficult Mandatory spending cuts slated to start on Jan. 1 will cut into government jobs and jobs dependent on federal contracts. These tax hikes are part of the Affordable Care Act and go into effect on Jan. 1.
And where is the downside? Earned income credit and unemployment is money those folks didnt work for & earn its dole cut it out. After they reduced the social security witholding rate the Social security for the first time ever Ran in the red in 2011. in 2011 the fund paid out more than it took in. Stupid move to reduce revenue just as the very first wave of baby boomers start to retire. I made money this year however the feds wont get any income tax from me. Just self employment social security tax. I do the same things the very rich do. I took a loss on my farm. then I bought all kinds of buisness inventory to reduce my buisness profit. Ill sell that excess inventory at very little profit and quickly recoup my money after the first of the year. Goverment jobs are parasitic in that they produce nothing they must be funded by taxing a producer or by borrowing. the fewer govt jobs the smaller govt the better. If the goverment lets out fewer contract,s the increased competition to win a bid will result in lower bids and a saving,s. and many when they finnaly do get that tax refund it will have the payment for Obama health care deducted from it. all medicare has done is enable health care providers to pad the bills and cause the cost to skyrocket. Besides we wont need it any longer now that we have Obama care. Lets go ahead and junp off the fiscal cliff some folks deserve the hard landing that they will recieve.
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#2059 Dec 28, 2012
FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>Why change screen names?
Boehner is nuttless at this point! He cant deal with the tea party nutters in his party.
We will go over the cliff, and Obama will restore tax cuts for the rest of us! Conservatives were played like a deck of cards
HECK, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU LIBERALS KEEP CHANGING YOUR NAMES. You are right we will go over the Obama (fiscal) Cliff and Obama will be responsible for not negotiating for the sake of all Americans. Actually, Obama will be in a worse place because he need to Republicans for the debt ceiling and he has not made any Republicans like him because of his arrogant "my way or the highway" approach. Your Messiah has pulled the woll over your eyes once again. SO sad that you appear to be so easily fooled.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#2060 Dec 28, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you actually KNOW what he is proposing? Have you read or are you simply going by what you read on those "I hate Obama" sites? His proposals aren't so very different from what the Republicans want. They simply need to compromise.
I don't go to the I hate Obama sites unless you call the LA Times or the Washington Post a "I hate Obama site". Well, as of the last speech Obama went backwards instead of forwards. Obama sees Boehner is having trouble passing plan "B" with $1 million and he falls back from $400,000 to $250,000. I MEAN YOU ARE WIDE ENOUGH APART AS IT IS AND OBAMA GOES AND MAKES IT WORSE. HUH?
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#2061 Dec 28, 2012
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>For someone that claims he's not crying, the tears sure are flowing.
The cryathon intensifies.
Four more years of frightwingnut tears.
I will not respond to you anymore for the most because it appears you are losing it. So sad that you no longer have a mind. I wish you the best as it appears you need it!
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#2062 Dec 28, 2012
Guess Who wrote:
smackalibtoday wrote:
Here are 10 ways your money could be affected if there is no deal reached by the end of the year:
Your Income Tax Rates Will Go Up The expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts on Dec. 31 means nearly every American taxpayer will see their rates go up when the rates go back to their 2001 levels. President Obama’s plan to avert the cliff includes keeping the current rates for middle- and low-income earners, while allowing the rates to increase for the highest income levels from 35 to 39.6 percent. Republicans have pushed to keep the tax cuts for everyone.
Your 2012 Tax Bill Will Be Huge the Social Security payroll tax holiday expires on Dec. 31, raising the rate from 4.2 to 6.2 percent.
Your Tax Refund Will Be Delayed
Your Kids Will Cost You More Money Among the tax credits that expire on Dec. 31 are several that help lower- and middle-income families with kids, including the Child Tax Credit, Earned Income Tax Credit,
You Cannot Collect Extended Unemployment
Your Stocks Could Wobble The stock market tumbled on Thursday after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said it looked like the the country was going to go over the fiscal cliff. Uncertainty over taxes could create more market volatility,
If You Use Medicare, It Will Be Harder To Find A Doctor One of the spending cuts that will be enacted on Jan. 1 is a 30 percent reduction in the rates Medicare pays doctors.
Finding A New Job Will Be More Difficult Mandatory spending cuts slated to start on Jan. 1 will cut into government jobs and jobs dependent on federal contracts. These tax hikes are part of the Affordable Care Act and go into effect on Jan. 1.
And where is the downside? Earned income credit and unemployment is money those folks didnt work for & earn its dole cut it out. After they reduced the social security witholding rate the Social security for the first time ever Ran in the red in 2011. in 2011 the fund paid out more than it took in. Stupid move to reduce revenue just as the very first wave of baby boomers start to retire. I made money this year however the feds wont get any income tax from me. Just self employment social security tax. I do the same things the very rich do. I took a loss on my farm. then I bought all kinds of buisness inventory to reduce my buisness profit. Ill sell that excess inventory at very little profit and quickly recoup my money after the first of the year. Goverment jobs are parasitic in that they produce nothing they must be funded by taxing a producer or by borrowing. the fewer govt jobs the smaller govt the better. If the goverment lets out fewer contract,s the increased competition to win a bid will result in lower bids and a saving,s. and many when they finnaly do get that tax refund it will have the payment for Obama health care deducted from it. all medicare has done is enable health care providers to pad the bills and cause the cost to skyrocket. Besides we wont need it any longer now that we have Obama care. Lets go ahead and junp off the fiscal cliff some folks deserve the hard landing that they will recieve.
There are plenty of things that can go wrong, but Obama and the Obamatons don't care.

Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#2063 Dec 28, 2012
OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
The Simpson-Bowles plan — which Erskine Bowles does actually support — occupies strange territory in Washington: Almost every politician professes to admire it, almost none of them are willing to vote for it... remember: Simpson-Bowles is a centrist proposal.
1) Simpson-Bowles ends the the Bush tax cuts for income over $250,000.(Not a Republican Concept)...
2) There are a lot of tax increases in Simpson-Bowles.$2.6 trillion over 10 years, to be exact.(Not a Republican Concept)...
3) There are so many tax increases that the plan is nearly 1:1.(Not a Republican Concept)...
4) Simpson-Bowles taxes capital gains and dividends as normal income.(Not a Republican Concept)...
5) Charities, homes, health care and states.(Not a Republican Concept)...
6) Simpson-Bowles raises the gas tax by 15 cents....
7) Congress has already passed 70 percent of the discretionary cuts. ding are done.(Not a Republican Concept)...
8) Simpson-Bowles cuts security spending by $1.4 trillion, not including drawing down the wars.(Not a Republican Concept)... I believe, than the sequester cuts that so many think would devastate the military.
9) The Social Security changes. Simpson-Bowles makes three main changes to Social Security.(Not a Republican Concept)...
10) Paul Ryan voted against Simpson-Bowles. And so, for the record, did Dave Camp and Jeb Hensarling, the other two House Republicans on the commission. Of the House Democrats, John Spratt voted for the proposal, and Xavier Becerra and Jan Schakowsky voted against. Among the senators, it was just the reverse: All three Republicans (Tom Coburn, Judd Gregg, and Mike Crapo) voted for it, as did two of the three Democrats (Dick Durbin and Kent Conrd). Max Baucus voted against it.
11) Simpson-Bowles went down in the House, 382-38. In March, Reps. Jim Cooper and Steve LaTourette brought a modified version of Simpson-Bowles to the floor....
First, it should be fairly clear why the White House figured Simpson-Bowles was a nonstarter. They thought that if they endorsed it, Republicans would oppose it en masse, and hang every unpopular tax increase and spending cut around the White House’s neck. In retrospect, I think the White House miscalculated here, but it’s easy to see why they made the decision they did. The proposal the White House ultimately released included far fewer tax increases and security spending cuts than Simpson-Bowles.
...
Third, Republicans may want to associate themselves with Erskine Bowles, and they may want to attack Obama for not doing enough to support Simpson-Bowles, but they want nothing to do with Simpson-Bowles itself. After all, Boehner could have endorsed the Simpson-Bowles plan rather than the “Bowles plan,” and that would have won him huge plaudits in the media, and many more friends in the CEO and Wall Street communities, at least at first. But he didn’t, and, from his perspective, for good reason."
LOOKS LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND BTW, BOTH PARTIES ARE SCARED OF IT!
Wow, you really are trying, but youre simply not smart enough to make sense!

All that pasting did NOTHING to disprove the FACT that the fiscal cliff was created by REPUBLICAN LEGISLATION!

obama does not have to deal. He has played conservatives for the fools they are!

If we go over teh cliff, the Bush tax cuts are ended. At that time, Obama will cut rates for the rest of us by executive order. So nothing changes for the middle class.

The spending cuts that conservative PRETENDto want will never go into effect. I GUARANTEE you that a plan....a REPUBLICAN SPONSORED PLAN will be passed to restore most, if not all, of the spending that was previously in place!

Obama has nothing to lose, and conservatives are shown for the idiots they really are!

Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#2064 Dec 28, 2012
OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
HECK, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU LIBERALS KEEP CHANGING YOUR NAMES. You are right we will go over the Obama (fiscal) Cliff and Obama will be responsible for not negotiating for the sake of all Americans. Actually, Obama will be in a worse place because he need to Republicans for the debt ceiling and he has not made any Republicans like him because of his arrogant "my way or the highway" approach. Your Messiah has pulled the woll over your eyes once again. SO sad that you appear to be so easily fooled.
its very clear that youre not a bright girl.

OBAMA DOESNT HAVE TO NEGOTIATE.

The cliff was created by republicans, and the American people know that, as polls show

Obama has played conservatives for the fools they are. If we go over the cliff, the STUPID bush tax cuts end. Then Obama can lower tax rates for 98% of us by executive order.

The spending cuts that conservatives PRETEND to want will never take place. I GUARANTEE you that most, if not all, of previous spending will be restored by REPUBLICAN SPONSORED LEGISLATION within the first week of January.

You should really try to understand the situation instead of just repeating stupidity you hear on the radio!

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#2066 Dec 28, 2012
OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't go to the I hate Obama sites unless you call the LA Times or the Washington Post a "I hate Obama site". Well, as of the last speech Obama went backwards instead of forwards. Obama sees Boehner is having trouble passing plan "B" with $1 million and he falls back from $400,000 to $250,000. I MEAN YOU ARE WIDE ENOUGH APART AS IT IS AND OBAMA GOES AND MAKES IT WORSE. HUH?
Boehner's plan B would have taxed about 3 percent of the wealthy. Contrary to what you might think, there aren't that many millionaires in the U.S, as compared to those that aren't millionaires. You see, Obama DID raise the ceiling from 250,000 to 400,000. THAT is called compromise. Just as he accepted cuts to social programs that were heretofore considered sacrosanct. I see the President's position on this. If I offer a compromise and you rteject it out of hand, without offering a compromise, then the offer is withdranw. A good move for Boehner might have been to offer 700,000. To me it seems like he's saying, "If I can't have it all my way, then I'm willing to watch the country drown, just so I can blame it on Obama".
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#2067 Dec 28, 2012
FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you really are trying, but youre simply not smart enough to make sense!
All that pasting did NOTHING to disprove the FACT that the fiscal cliff was created by REPUBLICAN LEGISLATION!
obama does not have to deal. He has played conservatives for the fools they are!
If we go over teh cliff, the Bush tax cuts are ended. At that time, Obama will cut rates for the rest of us by executive order. So nothing changes for the middle class.
The spending cuts that conservative PRETENDto want will never go into effect. I GUARANTEE you that a plan....a REPUBLICAN SPONSORED PLAN will be passed to restore most, if not all, of the spending that was previously in place!
Obama has nothing to lose, and conservatives are shown for the idiots they really are!

I give up you Obamatons can't read English!

"The Simpson-Bowles plan — which Erskine Bowles does actually support — occupies strange territory in Washington: Almost every politician professes to admire it, almost none of them are willing to vote for it... remember: Simpson-Bowles is a centrist proposal.
...
10) Paul Ryan voted against Simpson-Bowles. And so, for the record, did Dave Camp and Jeb Hensarling, the other two House Republicans on the commission. Of the House Democrats, John Spratt voted for the proposal, and Xavier Becerra and Jan Schakowsky voted against. Among the senators, it was just the reverse: All three Republicans (Tom Coburn, Judd Gregg, and Mike Crapo) voted for it, as did two of the three Democrats (Dick Durbin and Kent Conrd). Max Baucus voted against it.
11) Simpson-Bowles went down in the House, 382-38. In March, Reps. Jim Cooper and Steve LaTourette brought a modified version of Simpson-Bowles to the floor....
First, it should be fairly clear why the White House figured Simpson-Bowles was a nonstarter. They thought that if they endorsed it, Republicans would oppose it en masse, and hang every unpopular tax increase and spending cut around the White House’s neck. In retrospect, I think the White House miscalculated here, but it’s easy to see why they made the decision they did. The proposal the White House ultimately released included far fewer tax increases and security spending cuts than Simpson-Bowles.
...
Third, Republicans may want to associate themselves with Erskine Bowles, and they may want to attack Obama for not doing enough to support Simpson-Bowles, but they want nothing to do with Simpson-Bowles itself. After all, Boehner could have endorsed the Simpson-Bowles plan rather than the “Bowles plan,” and that would have won him huge plaudits in the media, and many more friends in the CEO and Wall Street communities, at least at first. But he didn’t, and, from his perspective, for good reason."
LOOKS LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND BTW, BOTH PARTIES ARE SCARED OF IT! Let's read that again: "Paul Ryan voted against Simpson-Bowles. And so, for the record, did Dave Camp and Jeb Hensarling, the other two House Republicans on the commission. Of the House Democrats, John Spratt voted for the proposal, and Xavier Becerra and Jan Schakowsky voted against. Among the senators, it was just the reverse: All three Republicans (Tom Coburn, Judd Gregg, and Mike Crapo) voted for it, as did two of the three Democrats (Dick Durbin and Kent Conrd). Max Baucus voted against it."

Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#2068 Dec 28, 2012
OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
I give up you Obamatons can't read English!
"The Simpson-Bowles plan — which Erskine Bowles does actually support — occupies strange territory in Washington: Almost every politician professes to admire it, almost none of them are willing to vote for it... remember: Simpson-Bowles is a centrist proposal.
...
10) Paul Ryan voted against Simpson-Bowles. And so, for the record, did Dave Camp and Jeb Hensarling, the other two House Republicans on the commission. Of the House Democrats, John Spratt voted for the proposal, and Xavier Becerra and Jan Schakowsky voted against. Among the senators, it was just the reverse: All three Republicans (Tom Coburn, Judd Gregg, and Mike Crapo) voted for it, as did two of the three Democrats (Dick Durbin and Kent Conrd). Max Baucus voted against it.
11) Simpson-Bowles went down in the House, 382-38. In March, Reps. Jim Cooper and Steve LaTourette brought a modified version of Simpson-Bowles to the floor....
First, it should be fairly clear why the White House figured Simpson-Bowles was a nonstarter. They thought that if they endorsed it, Republicans would oppose it en masse, and hang every unpopular tax increase and spending cut around the White House’s neck. In retrospect, I think the White House miscalculated here, but it’s easy to see why they made the decision they did. The proposal the White House ultimately released included far fewer tax increases and security spending cuts than Simpson-Bowles.
...
Third, Republicans may want to associate themselves with Erskine Bowles, and they may want to attack Obama for not doing enough to support Simpson-Bowles, but they want nothing to do with Simpson-Bowles itself. After all, Boehner could have endorsed the Simpson-Bowles plan rather than the “Bowles plan,” and that would have won him huge plaudits in the media, and many more friends in the CEO and Wall Street communities, at least at first. But he didn’t, and, from his perspective, for good reason."
LOOKS LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND BTW, BOTH PARTIES ARE SCARED OF IT! Let's read that again: "Paul Ryan voted against Simpson-Bowles. And so, for the record, did Dave Camp and Jeb Hensarling, the other two House Republicans on the commission. Of the House Democrats, John Spratt voted for the proposal, and Xavier Becerra and Jan Schakowsky voted against. Among the senators, it was just the reverse: All three Republicans (Tom Coburn, Judd Gregg, and Mike Crapo) voted for it, as did two of the three Democrats (Dick Durbin and Kent Conrd). Max Baucus voted against it."
youre giving up because you're getting you're ass kicked, as usual

All that pasted garbage is irrelevant

Odd that you can't form your own words huh?
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#2069 Dec 28, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Boehner's plan B would have taxed about 3 percent of the wealthy. Contrary to what you might think, there aren't that many millionaires in the U.S, as compared to those that aren't millionaires. You see, Obama DID raise the ceiling from 250,000 to 400,000. THAT is called compromise. Just as he accepted cuts to social programs that were heretofore considered sacrosanct. I see the President's position on this. If I offer a compromise and you rteject it out of hand, without offering a compromise, then the offer is withdranw. A good move for Boehner might have been to offer 700,000. To me it seems like he's saying, "If I can't have it all my way, then I'm willing to watch the country drown, just so I can blame it on Obama".
Obama in his last speech undid his compromise and and Obams is saying "If I can't have it all my way, then I'm willing to watch the country drown." Obama like his Obamacare bill is willing to destroy America to get his way. Boehner knew by the rejection of plan "B" that a majority of the House that they would not accept $700,000 which is less than $1 million. Boehner compromise would only be higher than $1 million which we now know that Obama would never accept as he barely accepts $400,000. So, Obama like a churlish child said I will make things worse for you than negotiate with Boehner. As we can see that Obama has never been in business as he has zero negotiating skills.
Guess Who

Calico Rock, AR

#2070 Dec 29, 2012
I dont belive that gong over the fiscal cliff will be the unmitigated disaster many believe it will be. We need to implement drastic cuts in spending. So what if earned income credit is took away. its money those reciepents did not work for and earn. the same with federal extended unemployment benifits that too is welfare or dole. let those folks who need help get welfare and take a means test. dont rob the public coffers to help someone maintain a certian life style. if their poor they need to face that fact & learn to live poor.so what if the goverment doesnt let as many contracts for bid. maybe that would result in more contractors bidding for fewer jobs. and that will result in lower bids. maby the $100 goverment toilet seat will only be $35? So what if a lot of goverment grants will not be made. They are big waste of money we dont have anyway. Near Dalton ARk. There was a old rotten log building. those folks got grants and spent over 2 million on that building that was worthless and still is worthless. When some commented of the waste of money, The excuse was well if we didnt get that free grant money here some other place would have got it. and that not all they now are wasting more money on another old building a few miles from the first one. Most hoseholds budget and cut back as necessary. Our goverment needs to do the same. Im all for shrinking the size of goverment. We need to quit funding the UN.We need to implement term limits of federal elected officials. Hard drastic cuts that are fiscally responsible now are much preferable to a fiscal collapse & insolvency like has already occured in places like greece and other Euro countries.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#2074 Dec 29, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Just look at those House republicans....are those matches in their hands?....
better pu the word "republicans" in quotes. The new name is scapegoat wing of the neocon party.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#2075 Dec 29, 2012
Terry Buckeye wrote:
<quoted text>
Boehner's plan B would have taxed about 3 percent of the wealthy. Contrary to what you might think, there aren't that many millionaires in the U.S, as compared to those that aren't millionaires. You see, Obama DID raise the ceiling from 250,000 to 400,000. THAT is called compromise. Just as he accepted cuts to social programs that were heretofore considered sacrosanct. I see the President's position on this. If I offer a compromise and you rteject it out of hand, without offering a compromise, then the offer is withdranw. A good move for Boehner might have been to offer 700,000. To me it seems like he's saying, "If I can't have it all my way, then I'm willing to watch the country drown, just so I can blame it on Obama".
you don't need to over think it so much. He's spending more, raising taxes, and cutting programs to help the middle class. You can describe that with a single word. Austerity! Go browns beat pittsburgh
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#2076 Dec 29, 2012
Hey terry. Tell all the senior citizens about obamas compromise. He can spend as much as he wants with no result so far, but their income has to be based on the chained cpi?
Oh well it looks like that recovery we were in here inseptember turned into a fiscal cliff in just one month. I noticed gas was cheaper then too. Clearly bushes fault.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#2077 Dec 29, 2012
OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama in his last speech undid his compromise and and Obams is saying "If I can't have it all my way, then I'm willing to watch the country drown." Obama like his Obamacare bill is willing to destroy America to get his way. Boehner knew by the rejection of plan "B" that a majority of the House that they would not accept $700,000 which is less than $1 million. Boehner compromise would only be higher than $1 million which we now know that Obama would never accept as he barely accepts $400,000. So, Obama like a churlish child said I will make things worse for you than negotiate with Boehner. As we can see that Obama has never been in business as he has zero negotiating skills.
Seriously? You think someone who taught Law and who twice was elected to the position considered the most powerful on earth doesn't have negotiating skills??? Find a different tack.

Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#2078 Dec 29, 2012
OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama in his last speech undid his compromise and and Obams is saying "If I can't have it all my way, then I'm willing to watch the country drown." .
Which speech was this? I lkove how you include quotation marks to signify that its real. Are you truly this retarded?

Why do you feel the need to lie?

This is why i could never be a conservative. It would bother me if i had to lie to support my beliefs

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#2079 Dec 29, 2012
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
Hey terry. Tell all the senior citizens about obamas compromise. He can spend as much as he wants with no result so far, but their income has to be based on the chained cpi?
No results?

If you had passed high school civics, you would have learned that it is up to Congress.

Now to review: Obama has a plan that the majority of Americans have approved- to extend the tax cuts to 98 percent of them and to start paying down the debt that was run up by the Bush administration.

Boner turned down that plan and proposed his own plan which not only failed, he failed to get a majority of his own party.

The Senate is ready to approve the Obama plan; Obama is ready to sign. The Congress will sign the bill if Boner puts it up to vote.

If Boner doesn't put it up to vote, we will all know exactly who pushed us over the cliff.

His foot dragging has cost many Americans a couple thousand dollars over the past few weeks. We won't be happy if it costs a few thousand more in taxes and more in market downturn.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#2080 Dec 29, 2012
FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>Which speech was this? I lkove how you include quotation marks to signify that its real. Are you truly this retarded?
Why do you feel the need to lie?
This is why i could never be a conservative. It would bother me if i had to lie to support my beliefs
I would agree, but then we would both be wrong.

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