Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public

Nov 30, 2012 Full story: CBS News 2,430

President Barack Obama delivers remarks about extending tax cuts for middle class people during an event in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building November 28, 2012 in Washington, DC.

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Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#1164 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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Might change if i ever find a liberal who is willing to tell the truth.
Tried booking a vacation out of the country recently?
Thanks to Obama's deficits and printing trillions of dollars, you're going to pay a hefty price.
too bad I can't find a conservative who is willing to tell the truth, as the dollar has increased in value under Obama

http://www.advfn.com/p.php...

See how easy it is to support your claims with a verifiable link when you tell the truth? Odd that conservatives never seem able
hahahahahaha

Carmel, IN

#1166 Dec 11, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, my IQ is 140 and everyone in here has an IQ of 90. You're a third world mess, all super dumb people, the blind leading the blind, none of you knows one thing nor has one real thing to say, and all you do is say stupid crap that means NOTHING and then attack the one smart person in here. I do not see any of you ever dealing with the entitlements and yet you all know that is where most of the money is going and you all know that is where all of the cuts are going to be made. All you have to say about you all losing out on $120 TRILLION dollars in entitlements is to make a one line personal attack of me. You people are so stupid you can't even talk to anyone intelligent. This country is so low that you all are afraid of anyone who is smart. It's a total loser country and no one with an IQ above 90 is staying on here to watch this mess collapse.
You are soooooo dumb that you said that Jesus Christ was murdered by the Romans because he was against big government. Enough said. Your IQ is 90 obviously so you can't ever debate me so you attack me. Same old low, mean crap that I do not want to be around.
How do people with IQs of 90 who can't ever have a real conversation and who can't discuss anything real think they are ever going to solve one thing? You're not. All you people do is harm other people, total losers.
He he he, sure your IQ is 140.....you've been playing those test your IQ games on your computer again when you should be either in therapy or working. Everyone scores 140 on those tests, dearest.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1167 Dec 11, 2012
obama sucks wrote:
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You, like virtually ever other lib on here, wouldn't recognize the truth if it smacked you in the face. I guess if I spent my entire life on welfare and assistance from others, I'd be the same way.
Truth did smack you in your frightwing nut face..

Obama=332

Mittens=206..

More truth? Four more years of teabag tears.
GhostofRaygun

Russellville, KY

#1168 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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Lying cretin, you and your fellow sponges don't pay anything:
WHO PAYS THE INCOME TAXES IN AMERICA? The list of Democrats complaining the ... We are going to take back America in 2012.~~~~~~~~~ Exclusive ...
allow me to share some enlightening data on who pays what income tax in the United States. We have a progressive (or regressive if you choose to look it the tax code correctly) in 2009, the latest available figures on income tax collection:
• The top 1%(1.4 million) paid 40.42% on income of $2.8 trillion.
• The top 2.5%( 5.65 million) paid 20.2%
• The top 5%( 7 million) paid 60%
• The top 10% paid 71.2% of all income taxes on income of $4.227 trillion.
Collected taxes :$794 billion
The bottom 50% of American taxpayers paid only 7.89 % of all Federal taxes collected !!
Your next lie?
Well the tax rate you posted is the TRUTH. Here's some more truth about why the top pay all the taxes.
.
The top 20% receive 80% of ALL the income there is each year.
The new income that has been created since the downfall of 2008, 93% of the money went to the top 1% of Americans.
The richest 400 people in America have more combined wealth than the first 150 MILLION Americans.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1174 Dec 11, 2012
Village Mystery wrote:
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It's all clicks and buzzes at my end. This seems more like a dialogue going on inside the partisan brain than any attempt to communicate to me but I will share one thing - a trough is where MANY animals eat the SAME source of food. It's called an analogy. There is an endless supply of partisans coming back with slop on their face responding to statements about Obama with "waaah, well what about Bush?" so when there is no satisfactory response to this I was just wondering what the - here is another analogy - what the buzz is at the hive for what you are supposed to say when someone does not defend Bush (although it's weird since Obama and democrats voted for the Patriot Act too). Apparently the agreed upon response is to just mutter and babble - claim some ignorance - and then click "post comment".
Tell you what. You post a direct question and I'll post a direct response. That way I won't have to try to figure out to what you're alluding and you won't have to deal with straightline logic. Deal?

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1176 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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Might change if i ever find a liberal who is willing to tell the truth.
Tried booking a vacation out of the country recently?
Thanks to Obama's deficits and printing trillions of dollars, you're going to pay a hefty price.
My wife and I recently returned from Bermuda. Pretty reasonable and worth ten times what we paid. You do realize that this President ddidn't invent the idea of government spending, don't you?
Piggy

Ashburn, VA

#1179 Dec 11, 2012
hahahahahaha wrote:
<quoted text>He he he, sure your IQ is 140.....you've been playing those test your IQ games on your computer again when you should be either in therapy or working. Everyone scores 140 on those tests, dearest.
Watching TV, broke away just for this. Ya made me laugh so hard.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1181 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
Reagan is already in the books as one of our greatest presidents, a spot at the bottom is being reserved for dumbass, lying commie Obama.
ast I checked he was sitting at around 15th place. Puts him ahead of Bush and WAY ahead of Papa Bush. Buchanan, Filmore, Hoover and the like are down there at the bottom.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1182 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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Google gives $750,000 to Obama's campaign, then dodges billions in taxes, hypocrisy at it's finest. Where's Obama's outrage? Where's yours? Seems like the only rich your side cares about are the ones who don't support Obama.
Your boys, not mine.
Didn't see anything about the major contributors to Romney's campaign. Nothing on the web about that? Again, I think it would be worth your while to examine BOTH sides of the issue. And I don't have much rage left these days. I seldom get a good miff going.
GhostofRaygun

Russellville, KY

#1184 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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How about a list of all the swell countries full of poor people? Maybe Cuba? N. Korea? I hear the top tier in China are all billionaires now, is that what you want?
Have you ever read a history book?
I have read a history book or two. Kept looking where it had proof that lower taxes on the rich create jobs. No where to be found. So then I looked up tax rates throughout US history. For over 100 years they were more than double what they are now. Then I looked up the down fall of the middle class. Started 30 years ago with something called Trickle Down Economics.

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#1186 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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You like facts, eh?
http://www.fms.treas.gov/index.html
2007 FY Budget Deficit $161 Billion
2008 FY Budget Deficit $455 Billion <---- Democrats control Congress
2009 FY Budget Deficit $1.4 Trillion
2010 FY Budget Deficit $1.3 Trillion
2011 FY Budget Deficit $1.6 Trillion
2012 FY budget deficit $1.3 trillion
2013 est. deficit $1.1 trillion
2013 FY budget deficit est.$1.1 trillion
conservatives care about deficits? When did that start?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1187 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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The point is , Boot, Romney doesn't whine non stop about the rich like Obama does.
Get it? Obama is a hypocrite, so are most of his rich supporters.
You should have some rage for the trillions Obama is adding to our debt.
How much are you in debt? Me, i try to keep my debt very low.
The point is, I was a boot in 1970. No, that isn't really the point. Why would Romney whine about the rich? He IS rich. Think about that for a minute. Tell me, are the rich supporters of Romney any less hypocritical? Do you REALLY think that they gave to his campaign out of patriotism???

Not that it is any of your business, but at the moment I am not in debt. Period. As for my rage, it's pretty much used up by now. I used much of it when my country was attacked in 2001 and more when my freedoms were jeopardized a month later by the enactment of the Patriot act. You go ahead and rage. I'll just sit here and look sane.

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#1188 Dec 11, 2012
Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill was told "deficits don't matter" when he warned of a looming fiscal crisis.
O'Neill, fired in a shakeup of Bush's economic team in December 2002, raised objections to a new round of tax cuts and said the president balked at his more aggressive plan to combat corporate crime after a string of accounting scandals because of opposition from "the corporate crowd," a key constituency.
O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he said, according to excerpts. Cheney continued: "We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due." A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired.
The vice president's office had no immediate comment, but John Snow, who replaced O'Neill, insisted that deficits "do matter" to the administration.
Source:[X-ref O'Neill] Adam Entous, Reuters, on AOL News Jan 11, 2004

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1189 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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He did invent the trillion dollar plus deficit. Did you see where Bush made us $23 billion off of the AIG bailout? Nice.
No republican is against government spending.
No, I did see Bush get us into the position that a stimulus package was about the only option other than letting the economy decline into a depression greater than the one in the 1930s. I don't think Bush had much to do with making $ off that bailout. Robert Benmosche seems to have been the man behind recovering losses, and he didn't become CEO until 2009.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1190 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
Reagan is already in the books as one of our greatest presidents, a spot at the bottom is being reserved for dumbass, lying commie Obama.
I'm still waiting for the voodoo trickledown. The rich get richer while the middle class stagnates.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#1191 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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He did invent the trillion dollar plus deficit. Did you see where Bush made us $23 billion off of the AIG bailout? Nice.
No republican is against government spending.
Remember nice?..

According to the Office of Management and Budget's historical data, during his presidency, Reagan saw federal spending increase by 22 percent. Additionally, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the federal deficit nearly doubled under Reagan, going from about $790 billion to $1.55 trillion.

Reagan also signed debt ceiling increases 18 times during his presidency

Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill was told "deficits don't matter"...
O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion fiscal year 2002 alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter..
A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired.

“To Eff The Ineffable”

Since: Nov 12

Wailuku

#1192 Dec 11, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, my IQ is 140 and everyone in here has an IQ of 90. You're a third world mess, all super dumb people, the blind leading the blind, none of you knows one thing nor has one real thing to say, and all you do is say stupid crap that means NOTHING and then attack the one smart person in here. I do not see any of you ever dealing with the entitlements and yet you all know that is where most of the money is going and you all know that is where all of the cuts are going to be made. All you have to say about you all losing out on $120 TRILLION dollars in entitlements is to make a one line personal attack of me. You people are so stupid you can't even talk to anyone intelligent. This country is so low that you all are afraid of anyone who is smart. It's a total loser country and no one with an IQ above 90 is staying on here to watch this mess collapse.
You are soooooo dumb that you said that Jesus Christ was murdered by the Romans because he was against big government. Enough said. Your IQ is 90 obviously so you can't ever debate me so you attack me. Same old low, mean crap that I do not want to be around.
How do people with IQs of 90 who can't ever have a real conversation and who can't discuss anything real think they are ever going to solve one thing? You're not. All you people do is harm other people, total losers.
Wow. That sounded almost like a typical Topix post. Cool.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1196 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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Bush did that? And here all honest people know it was the democrat authored mortgage meltdown that did it.
What did Bush do to cause this crisis? Just list the things he did w/o democrat support, thank you.
So, you want to blame Bush 100% for TARP, yet deny him the credit for the $23 billion?
WOW! You really like GWB, huh? First, let me point out that I find it difficult to believe that you know any honest people. Extremists aren’t usually known for their honesty. Secondly, I don't believe I said that bush was 100% responsible for tarp. And finally, yes, I would deny him credit for the recovery of those monies because a) he wasn't in office when the CEO of AIG changed hands, b) he did nothing to begin the process of the recovery of those monies before he left office, and c) the man wasn't bright enough to listen to people who actually could have gotten us to the point wherein a bailout was not needed. This is why he is ranked so low in relation to other presidents. He was largely ineffectual.

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#1197 Dec 11, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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Yes, the rich supporters of Romney are much less hypocritical than Obama's, they relish capitalism and everyone succeeding without demonizing the successful like Obama has done since the first time I ever heard his stupid, arab, muslim name.
9/11 enraged me as i knew without your[dem] political correctness we could have prevented young arabs from hijacking our planes . But, we have to pull my 81 year old mother aside for special screening, don't we?
Very few wealthy people truly want everyone else to be wealthy, too. Most didn't get that way by helping people, but by walking on them.

As far as names go, sugarfoot...

I doubt that my political correctness or the lack thereof had anything to do with 9/11, nor does it have anything to do with your granny. It is the cost of living in a free country, my lad. Get used to it or move to one that agrees with your extremist ideology. I hear Iran is taking applications for citizenship.

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#1198 Dec 12, 2012
sugarfoot7 wrote:
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Yes, dumbass, they do, they always have, wise up.
please name a republican president that didn't run deficits....I'll wait

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