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Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public

There are 2428 comments on the CBS News story from Nov 30, 2012, titled Obama taking "fiscal cliff" fight to the public. In it, CBS News reports that:

President Barack Obama delivers remarks about extending tax cuts for middle class people during an event in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building November 28, 2012 in Washington, DC.

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stormy

Fairmont, WV

#803 Dec 8, 2012
Guess its too late for the people in the USA to
grow up and think of their country and what their
actions have done to "put us over the cliff"!

Their lies, and blame didn't keep us looking down
for long. When the leader couldn't stay and face
our congress and TRY to do the job, what is left to do? "JUST what is his plan for the people and
the good old USA?"? And those who paid and voted for him, should be able to tell us what to expect.
Starting on his fifth year should be long enough
to come clear about our future.. Maybe a dem. could and leave out others, just the Pres., please! I'm to poor to bail us out of the amt. of money we owe, and too proud to beg others to pay who had nothing to do with the debt...

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#804 Dec 8, 2012
antiobamanationist wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, thank God you had enough sense to not vote for him and to not be duped by his lies.
I'm glad I don't make over 250,000 dollars per year. I sure don't want to be punished for being rich! On the other hand, I'm sure glad my employer is rich enough to pay me weekly.
As i recall, rich people were doing just fine under clinton.

You sound so weak, being glad your employer is rich enough to pay you.

I, On the other hand, am happy that i can market my skills to employers who may have use for them.

Since: Oct 08

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#805 Dec 8, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Call us when you get your GED.
Study hard, start with American history.
Give it a rest, you haven't passed 8th grade American history yet? In order to do that, you must wear shoes, to pass though the doors of a school..

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#806 Dec 8, 2012
resident Obama seems to have a strategy to terminate all of the Bush tax cuts, not just those for “the rich,” as he has been saying since 2008. He is offering the Republicans exactly zero concessions in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations. No spending cuts, no entitlement reform, no compromise on the rates. It is entirely my way or the highway, and if the Republicans refuse to do everything exactly as he demands, he will let the Bush tax cuts expire entirely, for the middle class and working people as well as the upper incomes, and blame the Republicans for refusing to go along with him, and for the economic results.

It is a cynical game worthy of an undeveloped, third world country, not the United States of America. But this is just one more reason, with many more to come, for the American people to regret the mistake they made on Election Day.

The proof is in the pudding over the Bush tax cuts. They were followed by a record 52 straight months of job creation, producing 8 million new jobs, with the unemployment rate falling to 4.4%. Business investment spending, which had declined for 9 straight quarters, reversed and increased 6.7% per quarter, producing all those new jobs.

Because of that increased investment, labor productivity soared by 2.5% annually from 2003 to 2007, higher than the averages of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. As a result, real after tax income per capita increased by more than 11%.

Manufacturing output soared to its highest level in 20 years. The stock market revived, creating almost $7 trillion in new shareholder wealth. From 2003 to 2007, the S&P 500 almost doubled. After the Bush tax cuts started in 2001, quickly ending the 2001 recession, the economy continued to grow for another 73 months. From 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17%, meaning an additional $2.1 trillion for the American people.

This was mostly the opposite of what President Obama has produced, with his neo-Marxist Obamanomics, particularly unemployment more than twice as high, declining middle class incomes, soaring poverty, weak job growth, stagnant stock market values, collapsing business investment, and negligible growth in GDP.

Obama’s gleeful termination of the Bush tax cuts will produce just the opposite results of those tax cuts. The combination of all the tax rate increases, along with Obama’s abusive overregulation, and the Fed’s continued mischief, will throw the economy back into recession next year. Unemployment will soar back into double digits, breaking the post depression record of 10.8%. The deficit will soar to over $2 trillion, setting new all time world records. The national debt as a percent of GDP will gallop past Greece.

Middle class incomes will plummet further. Poverty will soar to new all time records.

Obama’s ploy of blaming all of this on the Republicans will not work this time. The public knows the Bush tax cuts were adopted into law by the Republicans, with complete Republican control of Congress and the White House at the time. It will be too obvious that it took President Obama and his new neo-Marxist Democrat Party to let them expire.

Enjoy the new Obama recession. You and your neighbors voted for it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#807 Dec 8, 2012
Republican Honey wrote:
resident Obama seems to have a strategy to terminate all of the Bush tax cuts, not just those for “the rich,” as he has been saying since 2008. He is offering the Republicans exactly zero concessions in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations.
You haven't heard?

The GOP lost the election.

It was in all the papers!

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#808 Dec 8, 2012
Republican Honey wrote:
The proof is in the pudding over the Bush tax cuts. They were followed by a record 52 straight months of job creation
I guess you forgot about the TWO recessions and the TWO wars and forgot that Bush was handed a budget SURPLUS that would have paid off ENTIRELY the federal deficit.

Trickle down economics doesn't work.

Never has.

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#809 Dec 8, 2012
Republican Honey wrote:
resident Obama seems to have a strategy to terminate all of the Bush tax cuts, not just those for “the rich,” as he has been saying since 2008. He is offering the Republicans exactly zero concessions in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations. No spending cuts, no entitlement reform, no compromise on the rates. It is entirely my way or the highway, and if the Republicans refuse to do everything exactly as he demands, he will let the Bush tax cuts expire entirely, for the middle class and working people as well as the upper incomes, and blame the Republicans for refusing to go along with him, and for the economic results.
It isnt rocket science Honey!

Obama will let the Tax cuts expire, and then have congress introduce a bill restoring the cuts for the middle class! If repubs CHOOSE to reject middle class tax cuts at that time....its all on them

Perfect strategizing
let the democrats

Dothan, AL

#811 Dec 8, 2012
Republican Honey wrote:
resident Obama seems to have a strategy to terminate all of the Bush tax cuts, not just those for “the rich,” as he has been saying since 2008. He is offering the Republicans exactly zero concessions in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations. No spending cuts, no entitlement reform, no compromise on the rates. It is entirely my way or the highway, and if the Republicans refuse to do everything exactly as he demands, he will let the Bush tax cuts expire entirely, for the middle class and working people as well as the upper incomes, and blame the Republicans for refusing to go along with him, and for the economic results.
It is a cynical game worthy of an undeveloped, third world country, not the United States of America. But this is just one more reason, with many more to come, for the American people to regret the mistake they made on Election Day.
The proof is in the pudding over the Bush tax cuts. They were followed by a record 52 straight months of job creation, producing 8 million new jobs, with the unemployment rate falling to 4.4%. Business investment spending, which had declined for 9 straight quarters, reversed and increased 6.7% per quarter, producing all those new jobs.
Because of that increased investment, labor productivity soared by 2.5% annually from 2003 to 2007, higher than the averages of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. As a result, real after tax income per capita increased by more than 11%.
Manufacturing output soared to its highest level in 20 years. The stock market revived, creating almost $7 trillion in new shareholder wealth. From 2003 to 2007, the S&P 500 almost doubled. After the Bush tax cuts started in 2001, quickly ending the 2001 recession, the economy continued to grow for another 73 months. From 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17%, meaning an additional $2.1 trillion for the American people.
This was mostly the opposite of what President Obama has produced, with his neo-Marxist Obamanomics, particularly unemployment more than twice as high, declining middle class incomes, soaring poverty, weak job growth, stagnant stock market values, collapsing business investment, and negligible growth in GDP.
Obama’s gleeful termination of the Bush tax cuts will produce just the opposite results of those tax cuts. The combination of all the tax rate increases, along with Obama’s abusive overregulation, and the Fed’s continued mischief, will throw the economy back into recession next year. Unemployment will soar back into double digits, breaking the post depression record of 10.8%. The deficit will soar to over $2 trillion, setting new all time world records. The national debt as a percent of GDP will gallop past Greece.
Middle class incomes will plummet further. Poverty will soar to new all time records.
Obama’s ploy of blaming all of this on the Republicans will not work this time. The public knows the Bush tax cuts were adopted into law by the Republicans, with complete Republican control of Congress and the White House at the time. It will be too obvious that it took President Obama and his new neo-Marxist Democrat Party to let them expire.
Enjoy the new Obama recession. You and your neighbors voted for it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
run the country we all will be eating ribeye angus steaks from texas. we support our president maybe 8 more years if the first lady runs.we love mr obama he knows how to bring the usa back strong.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#812 Dec 8, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't heard?
The GOP lost the election.
It was in all the papers!
And??????????

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#813 Dec 8, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess you forgot about the TWO recessions and the TWO wars and forgot that Bush was handed a budget SURPLUS that would have paid off ENTIRELY the federal deficit.
Trickle down economics doesn't work.
Never has.
Wrong!!!!!

The proof is in the pudding over the Bush tax cuts. They were followed by a record 52 straight months of job creation, producing 8 million new jobs, with the unemployment rate falling to 4.4%. Business investment spending, which had declined for 9 straight quarters, reversed and increased 6.7% per quarter, producing all those new jobs.

Because of that increased investment, labor productivity soared by 2.5% annually from 2003 to 2007, higher than the averages of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. As a result, real after tax income per capita increased by more than 11%.

Manufacturing output soared to its highest level in 20 years. The stock market revived, creating almost $7 trillion in new shareholder wealth. From 2003 to 2007, the S&P 500 almost doubled. After the Bush tax cuts started in 2001, quickly ending the 2001 recession, the economy continued to grow for another 73 months. From 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17%, meaning an additional $2.1 trillion for the American people.

This was mostly the opposite of what President Obama has produced, with his neo-Marxist Obamanomics, particularly unemployment more than twice as high, declining middle class incomes, soaring poverty, weak job growth, stagnant stock market values, collapsing business investment, and negligible growth in GDP.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#814 Dec 8, 2012
let the democrats wrote:
<quoted text>run the country we all will be eating ribeye angus steaks from texas. we support our president maybe 8 more years if the first lady runs.we love mr obama he knows how to bring the usa back strong.
And please tell me exactly what it is which is "strong".
American Lady

Danville, KY

#815 Dec 8, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't heard?
The GOP lost the election.
It was in all the papers!
A "few STEPS" left bub :)
Nov. 6 was "popular" VOTE
Electoral College has NOT yet!

LEARN your Constitution !!!
FREE Advice :)

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/elec...

November 6, 2012—Election Day

Registered voters cast their votes for President and Vice President. By doing so, they also help choose the electors who will represent their state in the Electoral College.

Mid-November through December 17, 2012

After the presidential election, the governor of your state prepares seven Certificates of Ascertainment.“As soon as practicable,” after the election results in your state are certified, the governor sends one of the Certificates of Ascertainment to the Archivist.

Certificates of Ascertainment should be sent to the Archivist no later than the meeting of the electors on December 17, 2012. However, federal law sets no penalty for missing the deadline.

The remaining six Certificates of Ascertainment are held for use at the meeting of the Electors on December 17, 2012.

December 11, 2012

States must make final decisions in any controversies over the appointment of their electors at least six days before the meeting of the Electors on December 17, 2012. This is so their electoral votes will be presumed valid when presented to Congress. The deadline for resolving any controversies is December 11, 2012.

Decisions by states’ courts are conclusive, if decided under laws enacted before Election Day, November 6, 2012.

December 17, 2012

The Electors meet in their state and vote for President and Vice President on separate ballots. The electors record their votes on six “Certificates of Vote,” which are paired with the six remaining Certificates of Ascertainment.

The electors sign, seal, and certify six sets of electoral votes. A set of electoral votes consists of one Certificate of Ascertainment and one Certificate of Vote. These are distributed immediately as follows:

one set to the President of the Senate (the Vice President) for the official count of the electoral votes on January 6, 2013;
two packages to the Secretary of State in the state where the electors met—one is an archival set that becomes part of the public record of the Secretary of State’s office and the other is a reserve set that is subject to the call of the President of the Senate to replace missing or incomplete electoral votes;
two packages to the Archivist—one is an archival set that becomes part of the permanent collection at the National Archives and Records Administration and the other is a reserve set that is subject to the call of the President of the Senate to replace missing or incomplete electoral votes; and
one set to the presiding judge in the district where the Electors met—this is also a reserve set that is subject to the call of the President of the Senate to replace missing or incomplete electoral votes.
December 26, 2012

The deadline for receipt of the electoral votes by the President of the Senate and the Archivist is December 26, 2012. States face no legal penalty for failure to comply.

If votes are lost or delayed, the Archivist may take extraordinary measures to retrieve duplicate originals.

On or Before January 3, 2013 ...

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drink the hivE

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#816 Dec 8, 2012
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Rochester, MN

#817 Dec 8, 2012
This Muslim A hole Obama could care less about this countries "fiscal cliff"
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#818 Dec 8, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>No, a better America is a compassionate one.
Well, the liberals here are showing that they are not compassionate at all. From many of the liberal posters, I have seen unceasing attacks, mean & nasty vitriol and just plain bigoted denigration of anything christian or conservative. Seems to me if you are using compassion as one of your guides to making America better that most of the liberal posters here are complete failures.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#819 Dec 8, 2012
FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>you really are pathetic
An email...that is your proof?
Wow
Like you have shown many times in the past that you never read the entire article because of your extreme bigoted liberal bias. That email was just one little part of the whole article and both article were written by black men and not by a biracial man like Obama which hates his white heritage. I give you proof and your extreme liberal bias and hatred can't even acknowledge the truth. Are all liberals like you that are so pathetically hate-filled that they will never read anything that does not expose their ideology?

BTW, there were 2 articles if you read through your extreme bigoted liberal hatred and I could find many, many more. Thanks for showing us what real pathetic looks like.

Since: Aug 10

Buffalo, NY

#820 Dec 8, 2012
OH NO YOU Did not wrote:
<quoted text>
Like you have shown many times in the past that you never read the entire article because of your extreme bigoted liberal bias. That email was just one little part of the whole article and both article were written by black men and not by a biracial man like Obama which hates his white heritage. I give you proof and your extreme liberal bias and hatred can't even acknowledge the truth. Are all liberals like you that are so pathetically hate-filled that they will never read anything that does not expose their ideology?
BTW, there were 2 articles if you read through your extreme bigoted liberal hatred and I could find many, many more. Thanks for showing us what real pathetic looks like.
if you want to hate, then hate. Don't make stupid excuses for it.

Hate is simply part of the conservative platform
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#821 Dec 8, 2012
proudtobeamerica n wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do liberals punish success and demonize hard work? Why not punish laziness, envy, and irresponsible behavior instead of rewarding these character flaws as if they were virtues? Why reward and enable the nonproducers of society by doling out the private property EARNED and produced by the productive and responsible? No one should be forced to subsidize the lazy irresponsible bums that fill the ranks of Obama supporters. Children understand personal responsibility and that stealing, no matter how you try to rationalize it is wrong. You are not entitled to what you have not earned. Are you? If someone does not want to "share" you have no moral right to steal the property in retribution. Redistribution of wealth, which punishes success and hard work, is stealing. The recipients of this twisted scheme have no moral or legal claim to the benefits they recieve from it. You cannot make a moral claim that something that you did not earn because you have not worked for it belongs to you because you feel entitled to it or need it. I simply cannot understand how adults can't get that.
The liberal agenda is driven by jealousy and class envy. They stoke the worst emotions in the nonproducers of society to create hate directed at those who succeed. This results in the belief that they are entitled to the fruits of the labor of others. Pure poison.
IMO, the Obama administration whole premise of being is "class warfare". Boehner gave Obama everything he asked for by taking out tax loopholes and Obama just wanted to just attack the rich. You are right that he is making envy by people that do not produce enough or are non-producers as his way to force his agenda on all of America. You are right that they stoke the worst emotions of the non-producers with the belief that they are entitled to the fruits of the labor of others producers. All you have to do is check their dirty pool campaign of Bain and Romney's over seas account. I mean the man legitimately and honestly produced those items, but Obama made the American public which listens to the liberal MSM hate Romney for something that should belong to him. Funny how Obama does not have the "cojones" he does the same thing as Romney does like taking the tax loopholes. If Obama was a true leader, then Obama would pay the 39% tax rate that he says the rich should pay as by Obama's definition he is rich. Just remember that when Obama says middle class that it is code words for "unions". As unions are the special interest group he is concerned about, not the middle class when he saddle us with all these new taxes.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#822 Dec 8, 2012
FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>if you want to hate, then hate. Don't make stupid excuses for it.
Hate is simply part of the conservative platform
Like I said in this quote, you don't read!!

"Like you have shown many times in the past that you never read the entire article because of your extreme bigoted liberal bias. That email was just one little part of the whole article and both article were written by black men and not by a biracial man like Obama which hates his white heritage. I give you proof and your extreme liberal bias and hatred can't even acknowledge the truth. Are all liberals like you that are so pathetically hate-filled that they will never read anything that does not expose their ideology?
BTW, there were 2 articles if you read through your extreme bigoted liberal hatred and I could find many, many more. Thanks for showing us what real pathetic looks like."

Why because of your liberal bigoted hatred that you have to make yourself look more pitiful and pathetic than you are? I mean you are even making yourself look extremely stupid with this inability to read. So sad.
OH NO YOU Did not

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#823 Dec 8, 2012
FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>Here's a hint...nobody is reading anything that takes up half a page. Limit your copy/pastes to common sense
Here's another example how your extreme bigoted liberal bias and pure hatred makes you unable to read the proof of your lies and made up propaganda.

I copy and paste all the relevant details of my proof of your lies. I have to do that because as you state you don't read the truth that I post. Also, I provide URL links so you directly can read the truth that I post. However, by this post and many others you don't read because of your extreme bigoted liberal bias and hatred, IMO. SO sad that you can't read the truth I provide and post as it might make you see life more clearly and without such hate-filled emotion.

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