U.S. evaluates pollution, jobs at coal plant near Grand Canyon

Jan 4, 2013 Full story: Reuters 42

A federal working group will address concerns about air pollution and jobs at the largest coal-fired power plant in the western United States, the Navajo Generating Station on an Indian reservation near the Grand Canyon, three U.S. agencies said on Friday.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#22 Jan 6, 2013
inbred Genius wrote:
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so it was you that put all those packard employees out of work?
That would have been the CEO who made billions in profit, then shut it down when it was no longer profitable and simply walked away from all the pollution he left behind.

Typical of the polluter CEOs. THEY always get rich, while everyone else and the environment gets screwed.

The sooner we outlaw coal mining the better for ALL of us, including all those current and pending black lung employees. We'll be doing them a favor.

Since: Oct 08

Decatur, GA

#23 Jan 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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That would have been the CEO who made billions in profit, then shut it down when it was no longer profitable and simply walked away from all the pollution he left behind.
Typical of the polluter CEOs. THEY always get rich, while everyone else and the environment gets screwed.
The sooner we outlaw coal mining the better for ALL of us, including all those current and pending black lung employees. We'll be doing them a favor.
Tell that to Loretta Lynn's husband, doo
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#24 Jan 6, 2013
The NASA scientist who is an expert on global warming, wrote in his latest book that we HAVE to leave the rest of the coal in the ground and leave the sand tar alone too otherwise we will all die in about 20 more years from the pollution. So Obama is going by what the NASA scientist told him, and the morons who don't want to fight to get off of ending oil and off of carbon energy, they say it is so horrible and that it costs a few jobs. Look at the coal miners for god's sake. They are below 90 point IQ folks, high school dropouts, most of them are on welfare, and then a handful of them gets these super high paying jobs totally out of wack with the area's wages just to blow the tops off of mountains because there is no more coal that they can get without blowing up mountains and then the stuff from the mountains goes down into the rivers and not only pollutes them, but shuts them down, causing disasters for the environment. The rich sell it as "jobs" when in reality it is a handful of overpaid jobs for a coal company to run in and strip mine and run out and who cares they destroyed the rivers. This is the game that they are playing. If we worked on getting off of carbon energy before oil runs out, before gas is $10 a gallon, before we blow the planet up from carbon emissions, I'm sure we could create tens of millions of jobs in clean, renewable energy. People buy into the fake news talking points from Fox and do not look into what is really going on.

Cheap oil is GONE, done, overwith. Oil is $100 to $150 a barrel from here on out, so let's deal with it. Never mind "The Five" says a one line lie to stay on oil and on coal. Investigate, think for yourselves, turn the Fox crap off already.

Fox is the ONLY place left where people lie that global warming is not real. If people can't figure it out by now that Fox works for the oil and gas and coal companies and for the war corporations, I give up. This is a nation of idiotic lazy morons, that's the problem.
Pfft

Phoenix, AZ

#25 Jan 6, 2013
Pamela wrote:
This is a nation of idiotic lazy morons, that's the problem.
Well, at least there is one.. and that would be you.
If they close the plant, I hope your rates go through the roof bhatch, because CALIFORNIA is the primary user of that power.
Pfft

Phoenix, AZ

#26 Jan 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The sooner we outlaw coal mining the better for ALL of us, including all those current and pending black lung employees. We'll be doing them a favor.
Wow - All this from the moron in Michigan.
Maybe automakers whould be outlawed, because they are MAJOR COAL USERS BOZO - In case you didn't know steel production is very coal intensive, and anyone who lives in a state that produces autos should be shot.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#27 Jan 6, 2013
Pfft wrote:
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Wow - All this from the moron in Michigan.
Maybe automakers whould be outlawed, because they are MAJOR COAL USERS BOZO - In case you didn't know steel production is very coal intensive, and anyone who lives in a state that produces autos should be shot.
Nope, just stop using coal. Steel & autos can be produced without using coal.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#28 Jan 6, 2013
Pfft wrote:
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Wow - All this from the moron in Michigan.
Maybe automakers whould be outlawed, because they are MAJOR COAL USERS BOZO - In case you didn't know steel production is very coal intensive, and anyone who lives in a state that produces autos should be shot.
So you are a low IQ moron who hates yourself for being soooooo dumb, so you come into Topix and tell everyone you want them dead in every state because of which states they are from. What an idiot. No wonder the idiots buy so many guns. They figure they will have to kill all of the people off who don't have retarded level IQs so they can stay alive.
laughable

Albuquerque, NM

#29 Jan 6, 2013
they are getting coal plants to convert to natural gas (10 times more cost per kw than coal) and shutting down coal mining. Then they are already going after companies drilling for natural gas and reducing drilling permits. really makes sense. but that's this govt for you, head so far up they can see sunshine from above.
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#30 Jan 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nope, just stop using coal. Steel & autos can be produced without using coal.
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yep, we buy all our steel from CHINA, I don't think the US has a major steel plant in service anymore.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#31 Jan 6, 2013
Gary wrote:
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Could you provide the quote?
Certainly.

President Obama - "So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; itís just that it will bankrupt them because theyíre going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas thatís being emitted."

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#32 Jan 6, 2013
lolol wrote:
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yep, we buy all our steel from CHINA, I don't think the US has a major steel plant in service anymore.
Good. Let the chinese pollute their air & water for the next century while we switch over to renewables.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#33 Jan 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Good. Let the chinese pollute their air & water for the next century while we switch over to renewables.
Like plastic?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#34 Jan 7, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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Like plastic?
Plastic is made from oil; hardly a renewable resource.

I'm thinking more like wind, solar, hydro, tidal, geothermal, etc.
lolol

Albuquerque, NM

#35 Jan 7, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Good. Let the chinese pollute their air & water for the next century while we switch over to renewables.
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what's theirs becomes ours. how long did it take debris and radioactivity from the japan tsunami to hit the US ? china is a short hop from japan and what pollutes china pollutes the world. we do not have a barrier keeping out the garbage. it would be interesting to see a renewable car, grow one like a vegetable I guess.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#36 Jan 7, 2013
lolol wrote:
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what's theirs becomes ours. how long did it take debris and radioactivity from the japan tsunami to hit the US ? china is a short hop from japan and what pollutes china pollutes the world. we do not have a barrier keeping out the garbage. it would be interesting to see a renewable car, grow one like a vegetable I guess.
We can't dictate what China does; they're gonna use coal no matter what we do. But we CAN take advantage of it by shutting down all the coal plants here and letting them take on the majority of the pollution associated with it.

Unfortunately China is actually ahead of the US in developing alternative energy, even as they ramp up fossil fuel production. I expect China will actually beat us to a clean energy economy, because we're just that stupid.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#37 Jan 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Plastic is made from oil; hardly a renewable resource.
I'm thinking more like wind, solar, hydro, tidal, geothermal, etc.
Thatís the progressive truth. All we have to do is raise taxes and give those companies 80% subsidies to operate. Wait, that will raise our taxes AND our cost of heat. Sounds expensive.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#38 Jan 8, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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Thatís the progressive truth. All we have to do is raise taxes and give those companies 80% subsidies to operate. Wait, that will raise our taxes AND our cost of heat. Sounds expensive.
Of course it's going to be expensive until we completely transition to renewables. Once the transition is complete then the economies of scale will bring the price down.

What do you think the price of oil would be without all the govt subsidies & virtual monopoly & waiver of environmental laws?

If the true cost of producing oil were factored in, the cost of gas would be at least $100/gal.

The other option is to stick our heads in the sand and pretend there is a never ending supply of cheap oil and then act all suprised when the price eventually spike to $500/barrel and we're at war with China & India over the remaining Saudi oil.

The choice is ours to make.

I already know the sheeple will choose the latter option.......

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#39 Jan 8, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Of course it's going to be expensive until we completely transition to renewables. Once the transition is complete then the economies of scale will bring the price down.
What do you think the price of oil would be without all the govt subsidies & virtual monopoly & waiver of environmental laws?
If the true cost of producing oil were factored in, the cost of gas would be at least $100/gal.
The other option is to stick our heads in the sand and pretend there is a never ending supply of cheap oil and then act all suprised when the price eventually spike to $500/barrel and we're at war with China & India over the remaining Saudi oil.
The choice is ours to make.
I already know the sheeple will choose the latter option.......
Good point. How many of us wouldn't pay $50 a gallon for gas and &3500 a month to heat our homes if it means we save money in the long run?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#40 Jan 9, 2013
RustyS wrote:
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Good point. How many of us wouldn't pay $50 a gallon for gas and &3500 a month to heat our homes if it means we save money in the long run?
You're not going to have a choice.

Either you pay up or you put on another sweater and walk.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#41 Jan 9, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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You're not going to have a choice.
Either you pay up or you put on another sweater and walk.
or move to the Dakotas, they're pumping oil outta the ground there as fast as they can sink wells. Probably 500 years worth just under their feet. LibPanic won't prove much

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