In strawberry fields, immigration reform holds sweet promise

Apr 17, 2013 Full story: WTAX-AM Springfield 12

California farm worker Antonia Espinoza would likely be throwing in the towel and heading back to her native Mexico to see her children, if not for the work of eight U.S. senators in Washington.

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Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#1 Apr 17, 2013
If not for the promise of legislation, she said on Tuesday, "I would be there right now."

That says it all. The only reason illegals come here is because the government keeps inviting them and amnesty is just going to atract more as it has done in the past.
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#2 Apr 17, 2013
The guy has not been back to visit his wife and kids in 12 years? No amount of money or any job or situation could keep me away from being with my family. Especially for 12 years. He probably has a family on the US side which is very common. So he probably has no desire to go back to his old family. You can bet they have been abandoned. I hear about it all the time through conversations at parties and get together's here in Mexico. I also know some personally that are in that situation. The guy does not go twelve years without comfort of a partner by his side.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#4 Apr 18, 2013
Farmers in the San Joaquin Valley hire illegal farm workers on the spot when ever they can get them (or find them), it gets so bad that farmers are forced to plow under an entire harvest because of idiotic Govít regulations, they simply canít find the labor (legal or illegal) in time to harvest the crop and get it to the market. The application process for a work visa is $600 and can be complicated and take years. If you hire a lawyer it costs $10,000 and takes 10 years. It is the U.S. employerís responsibility to file an application with the Department of Homeland Security of the United States (DHS). Once the petition is approved, the employer sends all of the documents (copies of the I-129 petition and the approved I-797 petition) to the prospective employee to be presented at the Applicant Service Center and at the Consulate on your appointment dates. Believe or not, it easier to cross the Sonora dessert and crawl over, or under, the boarder than it is to apply for legal papers.
Of course if you are an "investor" i.e. you have at least US $1m in assets to bring with you your visa will be processed in less than a year. If you have a close relative (mother, father, brother, sister and no further) who is an US citizen who would sponsor you, approx time this takes 2-12 years.
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#5 Apr 18, 2013
spocko wrote:
Farmers in the San Joaquin Valley hire illegal farm workers on the spot when ever they can get them (or find them), it gets so bad that farmers are forced to plow under an entire harvest because of idiotic Govít regulations, they simply canít find the labor (legal or illegal) in time to harvest the crop and get it to the market. The application process for a work visa is $600 and can be complicated and take years. If you hire a lawyer it costs $10,000 and takes 10 years. It is the U.S. employerís responsibility to file an application with the Department of Homeland Security of the United States (DHS). Once the petition is approved, the employer sends all of the documents (copies of the I-129 petition and the approved I-797 petition) to the prospective employee to be presented at the Applicant Service Center and at the Consulate on your appointment dates. Believe or not, it easier to cross the Sonora dessert and crawl over, or under, the boarder than it is to apply for legal papers.
Of course if you are an "investor" i.e. you have at least US $1m in assets to bring with you your visa will be processed in less than a year. If you have a close relative (mother, father, brother, sister and no further) who is an US citizen who would sponsor you, approx time this takes 2-12 years.
I agree with you. It is ridiculous. That is where the temporary employers are mostly needed. On seasonal things where a quick grow and harvest are needed. If the farmers cannot get the help they need locally there should be a pool of qualified people with visas to choose from out of Mexico or wherever they can find them. I also believe that people, and Americans that are known for always milking the system should be put on these jobs. Those that are of good health and can work, to take these jobs. It might make free loaders want to get off their butts and try to find an easier and better paying job.

If Americans will not take these jobs and the farmers need someone now, they should be able to get help from Mexicans or anywhere they can get it.
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#6 Apr 18, 2013
One thing that amazes me is why would these farmers put all this time, cost and effort into planting and growing these crops if they knew there was no provisions to get the crops harvested or help coming, just to till it under. Makes no sense to me. Are they really trying hard to recruit people to work there? Just a thought. I would not invest my money and time knowing there is a good chance I would not get the harvest in. Sounds fishy.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#8 Apr 19, 2013
Concerned wrote:
One thing that amazes me is why would these farmers put all this time, cost and effort into planting and growing these crops if they knew there was no provisions to get the crops harvested or help coming, just to till it under. Makes no sense to me. Are they really trying hard to recruit people to work there? Just a thought. I would not invest my money and time knowing there is a good chance I would not get the harvest in. Sounds fishy.
Federal crop insurance will cover the any loss that the agricultural corporations incur. In short the American tax payers either subsidize their labor costs or cover their losses.
spocko

Oakland, CA

#9 Apr 19, 2013
Concerned wrote:
One thing that amazes me is why would these farmers put all this time, cost and effort into planting and growing these crops if they knew there was no provisions to get the crops harvested or help coming, just to till it under. Makes no sense to me. Are they really trying hard to recruit people to work there? Just a thought. I would not invest my money and time knowing there is a good chance I would not get the harvest in. Sounds fishy.
You obviously know nothing about farming but next time you eat at your family table you might want to give it some thought (if that is possible)
spocko

Oakland, CA

#10 Apr 19, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
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Federal crop insurance will cover the any loss that the agricultural corporations incur. In short the American tax payers either subsidize their labor costs or cover their losses.
Federal Crop Insurance Corporation (FCIC) ensures the economic and price stability of agriculture products. Itís all about ďrisk managementĒ the taxpayer pays 50 percent of the federal crop insurance claims.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#11 Apr 19, 2013
Like I said the tax payer will bail them out.
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#12 Apr 19, 2013
spocko wrote:
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You obviously know nothing about farming but next time you eat at your family table you might want to give it some thought (if that is possible)
Now that I know it should be abolished. So it a %100 full proof business. You cannot fail no matter how bad of a farmer you are is what you are saying. Why do the newspapers always say the farmers lost billions or millions of dollars this year. So in reality they did not?
Concerned

Chihuahua, Mexico

#13 Apr 19, 2013
My brother in law in Idaho cashed out of his business and took his couple of million dollars and went into farming in Blackfoot, Idaho. They did potatoes and beans. In three years he lost the 4 homes of the farms as well as all of the land. They had severe droughts. He was bankrupt. He received no compensation. Is the insurance only against not being able to hire labor?
spocko

Oakland, CA

#14 Apr 19, 2013
Concerned wrote:
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Now that I know it should be abolished. So it a %100 full proof business. You cannot fail no matter how bad of a farmer you are is what you are saying. Why do the newspapers always say the farmers lost billions or millions of dollars this year. So in reality they did not?
Farming is all about risk management and maximizing yield, farmers require bank loans to pay for the cost of planting and in order to squeeze out a profit farmers can only afford to insure 50 cents on the dollar.

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