The Importance of Historical Truth and The Macedonian Issue

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: macedonian1 | Full story: history-of-macedonia.com

The issue of the erection of a statue of Alexander the Great in Skopje is one which is particularly annoying to the Greeks at the present time. It is, of course, not true to say that the present occupants of Skopje are the descendants of the Macedonians of the fourth century B.C., although perhaps the statue could be considered as a sort of homage to the man who expanded the area under his control by conquering the territory of their pre-Slavic predecessors in Paionia. To present Alexander the Great as a figure from FYROM is like saying that Santa Claus was a Turk (after all, the St Nicholas who was the origin of the Santa Claus stories was the bishop of Myra, which is now in southern Turkey). And if we pursue this claim to its logical end, the people from FYROM should follow Philip and Alexander and make the Greek language the standard one for all their administrative activities, and seek to enter the Olympic games under the Greek flag.

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"Of course, it did not take me long to realise that what he had said had no foundation in historical truth, but it made me realise, as I have realised on some other occasions since then, that several generations of people in the FYROM have now been indoctrinated with misinformation of this kind, and of course, when indoctrination has been successfully achieved, it is difficult or impossible to change the attitude of mind that it creates.

My position is different from yours. I am not a Greek, so I have no emotional involvement in this matter. It is only my head, not my heart, that is involved. I can only say that you are right to resist the attempts by the present day Slav inhabitants of the FYROM to create a nation that is founded on a recent invented mythology, not on historical truth. My understanding of the matter is that at some time in the nineteenth century, certain elements in South Serbia (later the Vardar Province of Serbia) decided that they were not sufficiently well looked after by Belgrade. Although they were more Bulgarian than anything else (at least in the eastern parts of this area), they did not wish to place themselves under the control of Sofia. They therefore began to push for the creation of a separate state. Much later, this was approved by President Tito (who, being a Croat, had no desire to support the Serbs, and also thought that this might be the first step in annexing some of the northern part of Greece), and the ‘Republic of Macedonia’ was formed. "

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[Q;UOTE who="United Macedonians"]"Of course, it did not take me long to realise that what he had said had no foundation in historical truth, but it made me realise, that ;;ETHIOPIAN [GREEKS]] AFRICAN TRIBE BLOOD HAVE NO CONECTION OVER ;;TRUE MACEDONIAN HISTORY;;; as I have realised on some other occasions since then, that several generations of people in the; Republic Of Macedonia;; have now been indoctrinated with misinformation of this kind, and of course, when indoctrination has been successfully achieved, it is difficult or impossible to change the attitude of mind that it creates.
My position is different from yours. I am not a ;Ethiopian[Greek], so I have no emotional involvement in this matter. It is only my head, not my heart, that is involved. I can only say that you are right to resist the attempts by the present day ;Macedonian;;inhabitants of the ;;Republic OF Macedonia;; to create a nation that is founded on a recent invented mythology, not on historical truth. My understanding of the matter is that at some time in the nineteenth century, certain elements in South ;of Macedonia;) decided that they were not sufficiently well looked after by Belgrade. Although they were more Macedonian; than anything else (at least in the eastern parts of this area), they did not wish to place themselves under the control of Belgrade. They therefore began to push for the creation of a separate state. Much later, this was approved by President Tito (who, being a Croat, had no desire to support the Serbs, and also thought that this might be the first step in annexing some of the northern part of Agean Macedonia), and the ‘Republic of Macedonia’ was formed. "
Professor Melville-Jones
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University of Western Australia;; on the true history only for Australian ABOS;; IS GOOD FOR;; PISS OF WITH YOUR STUPID PRO ;;ETHIOPIAN;[GREEK'] PROPAGANDA STAY OUT OF MACEDONIAN HISTORY;; NOT FOR SALE;;; R;;;LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER FREE;; WE DO NO NEED ABOS TO READ ARE MACEDONIAN HISTORY FULL STOP;;;GET LOST;;;
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[Q;UOTE who="United Macedonians"]"Of course, it did not take me long to realise that what he had said had no foundation in historical truth, but it made me realise, that ;;ETHIOPIAN [GREEKS]] AFRICAN TRIBE BLOOD HAVE NO CONECTION OVER ;;TRUE MACEDONIAN HISTORY;;; as I have realised on some other occasions since then, that several generations of people in the; Republic Of Macedonia;; have now been indoctrinated with misinformation of this kind, and of course, when indoctrination has been successfully achieved, it is difficult or impossible to change the attitude of mind that it creates.
My position is different from yours. I am not a ;Ethiopian[Greek], so I have no emotional involvement in this matter. It is only my head, not my heart, that is involved. I can only say that you are right to resist the attempts by the present day ;Macedonian;;inhabitants of the ;;Republic OF Macedonia;; to create a nation that is founded on a recent invented mythology, not on historical truth. My understanding of the matter is that at some time in the nineteenth century, certain elements in South ;of Macedonia;) decided that they were not sufficiently well looked after by Belgrade. Although they were more Macedonian; than anything else (at least in the eastern parts of this area), they did not wish to place themselves under the control of Belgrade. They therefore began to push for the creation of a separate state. Much later, this was approved by President Tito (who, being a Croat, had no desire to support the Serbs, and also thought that this might be the first step in annexing some of the northern part of Agean Macedonia), and the ‘Republic of Macedonia’ was formed. "
Professor Melville-Jones
Graduate Research School
University of Western Australia;; on the true history only for Australian ABOS;; IS GOOD FOR;; PISS OF WITH YOUR STUPID PRO ;;ETHIOPIAN;[GREEK'] PROPAGANDA STAY OUT OF MACEDONIAN HISTORY;; NOT FOR SALE;;; R;;;LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER FREE;; WE DO NO NEED ABOS TO READ ARE MACEDONIAN HISTORY FULL STOP;;;GET LOST;;;
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BLA!BLA!BLA YUGOSLAVIAN SHAMELESS RIDICULE!
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[Q;UOTE who="United Macedonians"]"Of course, it did not take me long to realise that what he had said had no foundation in historical truth, but it made me realise, that ;;ETHIOPIAN [GREEKS]] AFRICAN TRIBE BLOOD HAVE NO CONECTION OVER ;;TRUE MACEDONIAN HISTORY;;; as I have realised on some other occasions since then, that several generations of people in the; Republic Of Macedonia;; have now been indoctrinated with misinformation of this kind, and of course, when indoctrination has been successfully achieved, it is difficult or impossible to change the attitude of mind that it creates.
My position is different from yours. I am not a ;Ethiopian[Greek], so I have no emotional involvement in this matter. It is only my head, not my heart, that is involved. I can only say that you are right to resist the attempts by the present day ;Macedonian;;inhabitants of the ;;Republic OF Macedonia;; to create a nation that is founded on a recent invented mythology, not on historical truth. My understanding of the matter is that at some time in the nineteenth century, certain elements in South ;of Macedonia;) decided that they were not sufficiently well looked after by Belgrade. Although they were more Macedonian; than anything else (at least in the eastern parts of this area), they did not wish to place themselves under the control of Belgrade. They therefore began to push for the creation of a separate state. Much later, this was approved by President Tito (who, being a Croat, had no desire to support the Serbs, and also thought that this might be the first step in annexing some of the northern part of Agean Macedonia), and the ‘Republic of Macedonia’ was formed. "
Professor Melville-Jones
Graduate Research School
University of Western Australia;; on the true history only for Australian ABOS;; IS GOOD FOR;; PISS OF WITH YOUR STUPID PRO ;;ETHIOPIAN;[GREEK'] PROPAGANDA STAY OUT OF MACEDONIAN HISTORY;; NOT FOR SALE;;; R;;;LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER FREE;; WE DO NO NEED ABOS TO READ ARE MACEDONIAN HISTORY FULL STOP;;;GET LOST;;;
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[Q;UOTE who="United Macedonians"]"Of course, it did not take me long to realise that what he had said had no foundation in historical truth, but it made me realise, that ;;ETHIOPIAN [GREEKS]] AFRICAN TRIBE BLOOD HAVE NO CONECTION OVER ;;TRUE MACEDONIAN HISTORY;;; as I have realised on some other occasions since then, that several generations of people in the; Republic Of Macedonia;; have now been indoctrinated with misinformation of this kind, and of course, when indoctrination has been successfully achieved, it is difficult or impossible to change the attitude of mind that it creates.
My position is different from yours. I am not a ;Ethiopian[Greek], so I have no emotional involvement in this matter. It is only my head, not my heart, that is involved. I can only say that you are right to resist the attempts by the present day ;Macedonian;;inhabitants of the ;;Republic OF Macedonia;; to create a nation that is founded on a recent invented mythology, not on historical truth. My understanding of the matter is that at some time in the nineteenth century, certain elements in South ;of Macedonia;) decided that they were not sufficiently well looked after by Belgrade. Although they were more Macedonian; than anything else (at least in the eastern parts of this area), they did not wish to place themselves under the control of Belgrade. They therefore began to push for the creation of a separate state. Much later, this was approved by President Tito (who, being a Croat, had no desire to support the Serbs, and also thought that this might be the first step in annexing some of the northern part of Agean Macedonia), and the ‘Republic of Macedonia’ was formed. "
Professor Melville-Jones
Graduate Research School
University of Western Australia;; on the true history only for Australian ABOS;; IS GOOD FOR;; PISS OF WITH YOUR STUPID PRO ;;ETHIOPIAN;[GREEK'] PROPAGANDA STAY OUT OF MACEDONIAN HISTORY;; NOT FOR SALE;;; R;;;LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA FOREVER FREE;; WE DO NO NEED ABOS TO READ ARE MACEDONIAN HISTORY FULL STOP;;;GET LOST;;;
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Eaxctly the truth hurts a BOXHEAD...
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[QUO,TE who="Jorrel";;OXEHEA D]DAM PRICK<quot;ed text>
Eaxctly the truth hurts a BOXHEAD...[/QUOT;E];;;THE TRUE IS MACEDONIA ALWAYS IS MACEDONIAN ALWAYS WILL BE;;WILL NEVER BE ;;DAM ARSE ;AFRICAN TRIBE APE BLOOD;;ARE HISTORY IS FOR PEOPE OF EUROPE;;LIKE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA;;;;;;;FOR ALL UNAITED MACEDONIA ;;FROM ;;DAM BASTARDS;;ETHIOPIAN;[GREEKS]] FULL WITH SHIT;;;AFRICAN SCUB BAGS;;YOU ARE THE REAL BLACK BOXHEAD;OR OXEHEAD;;OR BIG AGLY FAT BABOOONS;;MANGROLS;;;;;;;;;;;; ;';;HA HA HA.. HE;HE ;NE ;;BUDAL MAJMUN;;MALAKES;;;;;;;;;KOJ TE EBAVA;BRIHI SVINJA;AFRICKA;;
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[QUO,TE who="Jorrel";;OXEHEA D]DAM PRICK<quot;ed text>
Eaxctly the truth hurts a BOXHEAD...[/QUOT;E];;;THE TRUE IS MACEDONIA ALWAYS IS MACEDONIAN ALWAYS WILL BE;;WILL NEVER BE ;;DAM ARSE ;AFRICAN TRIBE APE BLOOD;;ARE HISTORY IS FOR PEOPE OF EUROPE;;LIKE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA;;;;;;;FOR ALL UNAITED MACEDONIA ;;FROM ;;DAM BASTARDS;;ETHIOPIAN;[GREEKS]] FULL WITH SHIT;;;AFRICAN SCUB BAGS;;YOU ARE THE REAL BLACK BOXHEAD;OR OXEHEAD;;OR BIG AGLY FAT BABOOONS;;MANGROLS;;;;;;;;;;;; ;';;HA HA HA.. HE;HE ;NE ;;BUDAL MAJMUN;;MALAKES;;;;;;;;;KOJ TE EBAVA;BRIHI SVINJA;AFRICKA;;
hehehe.. The Professor (you know the author of the article) clearly isn't Greek..and happens to be an expert on ancient and Byzantine studies ;) bhahahahaha!!!
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[QU.OTE who="Jorrel" OXEHEAD]<quoted text>
Eaxctly the truth hurts a BOXHEAD...[/QU.OTE];;;;;MACEDO NIA ALWAYS IS MACEDONIAN AND WILL STAY MACEDONIAN;;;LIKE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA ;;;;;ETHIOPIAN;[GREEKS]]KEEP OUT DAM AFRICAN;BABOONS PISS OF; OUT;MACEDONIAN;;;LAND;;;STAY OUT OR BUT OUT OF MACEDONIAN HISTORY;;; NOT FOR SALE TO THE APES;; DAM ARSE ETHIOPIAN;GREEK;;BLACK ;OXEHEAD;;GOOD FOR PLOUGH;;BACK IN AFRICA;;;
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[QUO,TE who="Jorrel";;OXEHEA D]DAM PRICK<quot;ed text>
Eaxctly the truth hurts a BOXHEAD...[/QUOT;E];;;THE TRUE IS MACEDONIA ALWAYS IS MACEDONIAN ALWAYS WILL BE;;WILL NEVER BE ;;DAM ARSE ;AFRICAN TRIBE APE BLOOD;;ARE HISTORY IS FOR PEOPE OF EUROPE;;LIKE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA;;;;;;;FOR ALL UNAITED MACEDONIA ;;FROM ;;DAM BASTARDS;;ETHIOPIAN;[GREEKS]] FULL WITH SHIT;;;AFRICAN SCUB BAGS;;YOU ARE THE REAL BLACK BOXHEAD;OR OXEHEAD;;OR BIG AGLY FAT BABOOONS;;MANGROLS;;;;;;;;;;;; ;';;HA HA HA.. HE;HE ;NE ;;BUDAL MAJMUN;;MALAKES;;;;;;;;;KOJ TE EBAVA;BRIHI SVINJA;AFRICKA;;
The banana doesn't know how to use quotes. Hahahaha....that, or I need an interpreter!

Hey, kutijaglava!

You....go....school...in...Au- stra-lia?? Spiking inglis? Da? Nema?
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[QUO*TE who="Sam";]<quote d text>
hehehe.. The Professor (you know the author of the article) clearly isn't ;Ethiopian[Greek]..and happens to be an expert on ancient and Byzantine studies ;) bhahahahaha!!![/QUOT''E];;;;;; the wog;boy ;movie;is typical';;Australian;; ;;Ethiopian;Greeks] was made to sho are smath all of you are in this country to bludge of tax payers ;;free money;;;;i worgot;you no different of australian ;;ABOS ;;SAME SHIT;;;SAME IN LOOKS TO ;AFRICANS;;;TRIBE BLOOD;; YOU ALL GOOD ON DOLE OR ;;COMPO;;;;;HE ;HE;;;BA,BA;BA;;SHIPPFUCKERS;; ;;MALAKES;;BUDALAS;; ;;LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA;;;;;
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[QUO*TE who="Sam";]<quote d text>
hehehe.. The Professor (you know the author of the article) clearly isn't ;Ethiopian[Greek]..and happens to be an expert on ancient and Byzantine studies ;) bhahahahaha!!![/QUOT''E];;;;;; the wog;boy ;movie;is typical';;Australian;; ;;Ethiopian;Greeks] was made to sho are smath all of you are in this country to bludge of tax payers ;;free money;;;;i worgot;you no different of australian ;;ABOS ;;SAME SHIT;;;SAME IN LOOKS TO ;AFRICANS;;;TRIBE BLOOD;; YOU ALL GOOD ON DOLE OR ;;COMPO;;;;;HE ;HE;;;BA,BA;BA;;SHIPPFUCKERS;; ;;MALAKES;;BUDALAS;; ;;LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA;;;;;
It lives well in greece like it has for 3000 years, your republic is only several years old, it will not make the distance. Fakedonia for the Fakedonians .
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[QUO*TE who="Sam";]<quote d text>
hehehe.. The Professor (you know the author of the article) clearly isn't ;Ethiopian[Greek]..and happens to be an expert on ancient and Byzantine studies ;) bhahahahaha!!![/QUOT''E];;;;;; the wog;boy ;movie;is typical';;Australian;; ;;Ethiopian;Greeks] was made to sho are smath all of you are in this country to bludge of tax payers ;;free money;;;;i worgot;you no different of australian ;;ABOS ;;SAME SHIT;;;SAME IN LOOKS TO ;AFRICANS;;;TRIBE BLOOD;; YOU ALL GOOD ON DOLE OR ;;COMPO;;;;;HE ;HE;;;BA,BA;BA;;SHIPPFUCKERS;; ;;MALAKES;;BUDALAS;; ;;LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA;;;;;
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[Q&UOTE who="Mr Natural"]<quot#ed text>
The banana doesn't know how to use quotes. Hahahaha....that, or I need an interpreter!
Hey, kutijaglava!
You....go....school...in...Au- stra-lia?? Spiking inglis? Da? Nema?[/QU$OTE];;;;I DO SPEAK ;;ENGLISH DAM ARSE ;;ETHIOPIAN ;GREEK]]YOU DONT;;;;;;;;;koj te ebava ako si makedonec oprostimi ;;pa ako si od ovie mrdnatite;africki[grci[[ neka se ebat so majmunite od nivna rasa se po poteklo;;da zivee republika makedonija za cesnite makedonci samo;;blagodaram i koj ste vie;;;pozdrav;;;;;
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[QUO%TE who="Hellenic RL"]<quot^ed text>
It lives well in ;Ethiopian[greece] like it has for 3000 years, your republic is only several 10000 years old, it will make the distance.;;not like yours FakeEthiopian;Greek;]state;;; of PLANET OF THE APES;;;african dam arses babooons;;; .[/QUOT#E]
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[Q&UOTE who="Mr Natural"]<quot#ed text>
The banana doesn't know how to use quotes. Hahahaha....that, or I need an interpreter!
Hey, kutijaglava!
You....go....school...in...Au- stra-lia?? Spiking inglis? Da? Nema?[/QU$OTE];;;;I DO SPEAK ;;ENGLISH DAM ARSE ;;ETHIOPIAN ;GREEK]]YOU DONT;;;;;;;;;koj te ebava ako si makedonec oprostimi ;;pa ako si od ovie mrdnatite;africki[grci[[ neka se ebat so majmunite od nivna rasa se po poteklo;;da zivee republika makedonija za cesnite makedonci samo;;blagodaram i koj ste vie;;;pozdrav;;;;;
All you need to do, kutijaglava, is to press the "reply" link next to the quote you want to reply to. Then, write your insignificant message at the bottom of the quoted text.

Pretty simple, eh, kutijaglava? Da? Nema??

Dali seriozno se odi na uciliste?
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It lives well in ;Ethiopian[greece] like it has for 3000 years, your republic is only several 10000 years old, it will make the distance.;;not like yours FakeEthiopian;Greek;]state;;; of PLANET OF THE APES;;;african dam arses babooons;;; .[/QUOT#E]
seušte ne mi e Jasno kako da go koristite kop&#269;eto odgovor?
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[QU*OTE who="Mr Natural"]<quoted text>
seušte ne mi e Jasno kako da go koristite kop&#269;eto odgovor?[/QUO&TE];;;makedo nec ste ili ze igrate;;shto treba da vi odgooram;;shto e;;kop&#268;ova;objasni shto vi treba;;ako ste makedonec;;
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seušte ne mi e Jasno kako da go koristite kop&#269;eto odgovor?[/QUO&TE];;;makedo nec ste ili ze igrate;;shto treba da vi odgooram;;shto e;;kop&#268;ova;objasni shto vi treba;;ako ste makedonec;;
zosto go koristat polu zapirki kako tie ke se izleze od moda?
Ne znaete kako da pisuvate normalno?
Google Translate KARPI!!
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seušte ne mi e Jasno kako da go koristite kop&#269;eto odgovor?[/QUO&TE];;;makedo nec ste ili ze igrate;;shto treba da vi odgooram;;shto e;;kop&#268;ova;objasni shto vi treba;;ako ste makedonec;;
Do you use Google translate as well, to translate English to Slav Mak? It sure looks like it!

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[QUOT!E who="Mr Natural"]<quoted text>;;DA ZIVEE REPUBLICA MAKEDONIJA ZA CESNI MAKEDONCI;;DA PUKNAT DUSMANITE;;;;
zosto go koristat polu zapirki kako tie ke se izleze od moda?
Ne znaete kako da pisuvate normalno?
Google Translate KARPI!![/QU^OTE];;;;;jas znam da pishuvam mnogu dobro samo mu vleguvam vo nivnoto pishan i go prepravam kako bidi na koris za makedoncite;;a ne ovie kopilijna;;africki;grci''majmu ni pederski;;zbesnati vo makedoskata istorija;;; da vi ste makedonec ili se igrate;;;evo i vo vasheto pishano vlegov mozam sve da prepram sekoj zbor''''''

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