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Saudi fatwa committee bans mingling of men and women in the workplace

There are 28 comments on the www.jihadwatch.org story from Jun 14, 2011, titled Saudi fatwa committee bans mingling of men and women in the workplace. In it, www.jihadwatch.org reports that:

The permanent committee for issuing religious edicts, chaired by Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, has banned the mingling of men and women at offices and educational institutions.

“Women are not allowed to work with men. For example, they cannot work as secretaries for men or at receptions, production lines or accounting sections in a commercial center, pharmacy or restaurant where men are also present,” the ruling said ...

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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#1 Jun 14, 2011
from jihadwatch:

"The logic appears to go like this: If women go out without a male guardian ... they will have sex.
If women drive ... they will have sex.
If women study in a coeducational setting ... they will have sex ...

"If women are given any autonomy or additional rights, never mind all the other opportunities, they will use it to -- you guessed it -- have sex.

"But somehow the male lingerie salesman gets a pass on this otherwise airtight assumption. Go figure. Or don't. Chances are it's already the case that 'Allah hates you for asking too many questions.'"
LOL

Manchester, UK

#2 Jun 14, 2011
I think all muslim countries should pass a law to make it compulsory for all workplaces to have a suckle room - a place where female employees suckle their co-workers to make them halaal.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#3 Jun 14, 2011
I love it. Saudi Arabia is oblivious to the damage they are doing to Islam, (not that Islam needs much help).

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#4 Jun 15, 2011
So if they ban men from mingling with women, how is that damaging to our religion?
I feel sorry for poor non-Muslim girls who have to mingle with men and boys in schools. Why don't you fix your problems first?
victoria

UK

#5 Jun 15, 2011
Sarah ___ wrote:
So if they ban men from mingling with women, how is that damaging to our religion?
I feel sorry for poor non-Muslim girls who have to mingle with men and boys in schools. Why don't you fix your problems first?
There is nothing wrong with girls and boys an women and men mixing i went to a co-ed school with boys as did many people i know it isn't damaging to us.Maybe in islam it dosen't work because women aren't afforded respect or equality but in the western world women are respected are allowed to have the same edcation as boys and one day go out and make a living.I went to college then university i got my degree and all this was from educational places where there were men so how can it be a problem.Mixing with men is a healthy way to be you dont have to sleep with a man just because you talk to one i have several male friends and i haven't slept with any of them.But then in the west we like to meet men and if we feel like choose our own husbands instead of our families choosing for us.I feel sorry for poor muslim girls who aren't allowed to even talk to men if you did so what what would happen if you did would the world end doubtful very doubtful.You act like conversing with someone of a diffrent sex is some awful sin or your going to get raped just because you happen to talk to a man.And if that is the case in muslim countries then you have the problem not us.
Iftikhar Ahmad

Stroud, UK

#6 Jun 15, 2011
Islam is the first religion which systematically empowered women when women was considered as totally subservient to man. There was no concept of her being an independent entity and enjoying equal right with dignity.

What is feminism? Nothing but women’s movement to empower her and to consider her full human being and not mere second sex as ‘Simon de Bouire called her. Thus we see in western countries until early part of twentieth century she did not enjoy an independent status. It was only after thirties of twentieth century that she won equal status legally and various western countries passed the laws to this effect. Yet patriarchy is looming large on her in these countries.

Qur’an empowered her and gave equal status. Another important question is what is the difference between Islamic and western feminism or is there any difference at all. If we go by definition of feminism as an ideology of empowerment of women, there is no difference. On the other hand, women had no rights and but won through great deal of struggle and this struggle came to be known as ‘feminism’ i.e. women’s empowerment.
Qur’an does lay down certain strict norms for sexual behavior. Both man woman have right to sexual gratification (a woman has as much right to sexual gratification as man) but within marital frame-work. There is no concept of freedom for extramarital sex in any form. Sex is permissible only with marital framework. Sex, as far as Islam is concerned, is not mere enjoyment but an act for procreations and hence has sanctity.

It is important here to emphasize that in a patriarchal society men decided the norms of sexual behavior. It was theorized that man has greater urge for sex and hence he needs multiple wives and woman tends to be passive and hence has to be content with one. This is not true as far as Qur’an is concerned. Qur’an’s approach is very different. It is not greater or lesser degree of sexual urge which necessitates multiple or monogamous marriage.
Whole emphasis is on monogamous marriage (in both the Qur’anic verses i.e. 4:3 and 4:129). Multiple marriages were permitted only to take care of widows and orphans and not for greater sexual urge and the verse 4:129 gives the norm of monogamy and not to leave first wife in suspense or neglected. Thus as far as Qur’an is concerned sexual gratification is a non-negotiable right for both man woman. And hence a divorcee and a widow are also permitted to marry and gratify their sexual urge.

Also, in western capitalist countries women’s dignity has been compromised and she has been reduced to a commodity to be exploited. Her semi-naked postures and her sexuality is exploited commercially unabashedly. It is totally against the concept of woman’s honour and dignity. Unfortunately western feminists do not consider this as objectionable but accept it as part of woman’s freedom. Some (though not many) even advocate prostitution as woman’s right to earn her bread.
This is against the concept of Islamic feminism as while sanctioning sexual gratification as much right of woman as that of man, it prohibits extra-marital sexual liaison and on one hand upholds dignity and honour of woman and on the other, exalts sex on the level of sanctity and restricts it for procreation.. Thus it would be seen that discourse of Islamic feminism, while having something in common with modern western feminism, it also significantly differs from it. Islamic feminists have to observe certain norms which modern western feminists are not obliged to.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamis.org.uk

Since: Jun 09

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#7 Jun 15, 2011
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>There is nothing wrong with girls and boys an women and men mixing i went to a co-ed school with boys as did many people i know it isn't damaging to us.Maybe in islam it dosen't work because women aren't afforded respect or equality but in the western world women are respected are allowed to have the same edcation as boys and one day go out and make a living.I went to college then university i got my degree and all this was from educational places where there were men so how can it be a problem.Mixing with men is a healthy way to be you dont have to sleep with a man just because you talk to one i have several male friends and i haven't slept with any of them.But then in the west we like to meet men and if we feel like choose our own husbands instead of our families choosing for us.I feel sorry for poor muslim girls who aren't allowed to even talk to men if you did so what what would happen if you did would the world end doubtful very doubtful.You act like conversing with someone of a diffrent sex is some awful sin or your going to get raped just because you happen to talk to a man.And if that is the case in muslim countries then you have the problem not us.
I don't believe you're a westerner. Anyway, why do many of your school girls become pregnant? And why are they sexually active? Aren't they too young?
If your men respect your women, they won't sleep with them out of marriage, period.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#8 Jun 15, 2011
Iftikhar Ahmad wrote:
Islam is the first religion which systematically empowered women when women was considered as totally subservient to man ...
Taqiyya from the london school of islam.

Today, muslim women still can't leave the house without a male family member as an "escort"; muslimas might as well wear a leash.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#9 Jun 15, 2011
Sarah ___ wrote:
<quoted text>I don't believe you're a westerner. Anyway, why do many of your school girls become pregnant? And why are they sexually active? Aren't they too young?
If your men respect your women, they won't sleep with them out of marriage, period.
Sarah, my daughter is 18 and not pregnant.

Odd that, she went to a mixed school.

Muslim men sound awful if all they can think about is sex, you seriously have to get out of that Islamic hell hole you live in, you'll be safer in the west where men are more than capable of keeping from jumping on anything that isn't covered by a black sheet.
Haseem

London, UK

#10 Jun 15, 2011
it is fine for women and men to work together as long as the woman has breast fed the man. It's in the hadiths. Slurp. Slurp.

“PROUD INFIDEL”

Since: Nov 08

The Crusades got it right!

#11 Jun 15, 2011
Sarah ___ wrote:
So if they ban men from mingling with women, how is that damaging to our religion?
I feel sorry for poor non-Muslim girls who have to mingle with men and boys in schools. Why don't you fix your problems first?
Does your male guardian ever take you out for a walk and some fresh air? Even dogs have more freedom than you in the West. Oops! I forgot your allah hates dogs and kaffirs!!
Paul WV

Linden, NJ

#12 Jun 15, 2011
Sarah ___ wrote:
<quoted text>I don't believe you're a westerner. Anyway, why do many of your school girls become pregnant? And why are they sexually active? Aren't they too young?
If your men respect your women, they won't sleep with them out of marriage, period.
You suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.
Alen

UK

#13 Jun 15, 2011
You should see how underage girls are forced to dress right here in United Kingdom.
Alen

UK

#14 Jun 15, 2011
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
You suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.
Really, how would YOU know????
angus longstaffe

UK

#15 Jun 15, 2011
Alen wrote:
You should see how underage girls are forced to dress right here in United Kingdom.
yeah ayesha was all wrapped up playing with her doll when mohammed started drooling.
Paul WV

Linden, NJ

#16 Jun 15, 2011
Alen wrote:
<quoted text>Really, how would YOU know????
It is self evident form her replies that she suffers from Stockholm Syndrome. The fact that she wants to be locked away from men and thinks it's fine is one reason I say she suffers from it. Now don't tell me it's by choice, because it is not. If she says it's by choice only furhter proves she suffers from Stockholm Syndrome.
angus longstaffe

UK

#17 Jun 15, 2011
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
It is self evident form her replies that she suffers from Stockholm Syndrome. The fact that she wants to be locked away from men and thinks it's fine is one reason I say she suffers from it. Now don't tell me it's by choice, because it is not. If she says it's by choice only furhter proves she suffers from Stockholm Syndrome.
it's a waste of time trying to explain anything to alen - he suffers from mekkah syndrome and incapable of thinking.
angus longstaffe

UK

#18 Jun 15, 2011
Alen wrote:
You should see how underage girls are forced to dress right here in United Kingdom.
well there's an airport with flights to kabul and lahore.

“PROUD INFIDEL”

Since: Nov 08

The Crusades got it right!

#19 Jun 15, 2011
angus longstaffe wrote:
<quoted text>
well there's an airport with flights to kabul and lahore.
alen will never go there, no welfare benefits.

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#20 Jun 15, 2011
Joe DeCaro wrote:
from jihadwatch:
"The logic appears to go like this: If women go out without a male guardian ... they will have sex.
If women drive ... they will have sex.
If women study in a coeducational setting ... they will have sex ...
"If women are given any autonomy or additional rights, never mind all the other opportunities, they will use it to -- you guessed it -- have sex.
"But somehow the male lingerie salesman gets a pass on this otherwise airtight assumption. Go figure. Or don't. Chances are it's already the case that 'Allah hates you for asking too many questions.'"
roflmao! Their ignorance and superstitions rules their lives.

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