Russian ex-police chief leads Donetsk...

Russian ex-police chief leads Donetsk rebels

There are 38 comments on the BBC News story from Aug 1, 2014, titled Russian ex-police chief leads Donetsk rebels. In it, BBC News reports that:

A veteran of the pro-Russian separatist rebellion in Moldova, Vladimir Antyufeyev, now claims to be in command of rebel-held Donetsk in eastern Ukraine.

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Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#22 Aug 1, 2014
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> So who was throwing postal workers off roof tops in Aleppo and hacking heads off before that?
Now don't get too worked up Crummy, just try not to lie everyday as tough as it may be as it brings bad karma.
See your Russian radicals who crossed into the Ukraine are losing badly.
Oliver Cromwell

Accrington, UK

#23 Aug 1, 2014
Avenger wrote:
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Now don't get too worked up Crummy, just try not to lie everyday as tough as it may be as it brings bad karma.
See your Russian radicals who crossed into the Ukraine are losing badly.
You didn't answer my question,who was throwing postal workers off rooftops in Aleppo? as for the resistance they are not losing,they sent twenty more Fascists to hell today,you are right about one thing,i wish Russia had gone into eastern Ukraine,someone has to stop those Kiev criminals and their Zionist Oligarchs from murdering civilians.
Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#24 Aug 1, 2014
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> You didn't answer my question,who was throwing postal workers off rooftops in Aleppo? as for the resistance they are not losing,they sent twenty more Fascists to hell today,you are right about one thing,i wish Russia had gone into eastern Ukraine,someone has to stop those Kiev criminals and their Zionist Oligarchs from murdering civilians.
This is the Russia forum Crummy you can try your lame attempts to grill people over at the other forums.
And yes i know you want a full Russian invasion instead of these covert Russian FSB agents running around causing chaos in Donetsk. Who knows get back on the secret transmitter.
Karmarim

Sliema, Malta

#25 Aug 1, 2014
Avenger wrote:
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Crimea was invaded by Russia and now they want more land grabs around Donetsk.
Crimea was not invaded by Russia, those were self-defense forces by the local inhabitants who held a referendum on independence. As for East Ukraine Russia has shown no interest in absorbing those areas.

But hey let me give you a difference, Crimea was separated from Ukraine without a single shot fired and very limited loss of life. Kosovo was separated from Serbia after a NINE MONTH bombing champaign against Serb civilians, 2000 of which were killed, outside the conflict area by NATO forces. I didn't see Russia planes bombing Kiev or any civilians not involved in the conflict. Shows you which side is more moral.
Karmarim

Sliema, Malta

#26 Aug 1, 2014
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> Well if those head hacking ISIS savages were running around Amserdam sawing peoples heads off would they be terrorists?
Speaking of ISIS has anyone wondered why ISIS has an English Name "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria" I find it very very strange, wouldn't an Arabic name be more powerful for their cause.
Karmarim

Sliema, Malta

#27 Aug 1, 2014
P.S. forgive me if I am off by a zero in my last figures, the real death toll is probably 200 000.
Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#28 Aug 1, 2014
Karmarim wrote:
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Crimea was not invaded by Russia, those were self-defense forces by the local inhabitants who held a referendum on independence. As for East Ukraine Russia has shown no interest in absorbing those areas.
But hey let me give you a difference, Crimea was separated from Ukraine without a single shot fired and very limited loss of life. Kosovo was separated from Serbia after a NINE MONTH bombing champaign against Serb civilians, 2000 of which were killed, outside the conflict area by NATO forces. I didn't see Russia planes bombing Kiev or any civilians not involved in the conflict. Shows you which side is more moral.
Yes Crimea was invaded Putin admitted that they were Russian army he lied at first but then he changed his mind.
Clearly you are not following the story.
Oliver Cromwell

Accrington, UK

#29 Aug 1, 2014
Karmarim wrote:
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Speaking of ISIS has anyone wondered why ISIS has an English Name "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria" I find it very very strange, wouldn't an Arabic name be more powerful for their cause.
Probably because the CIA invented them to do their dirty work.
Oliver Cromwell

Accrington, UK

#30 Aug 1, 2014
Avenger wrote:
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Yes Crimea was invaded Putin admitted that they were Russian army he lied at first but then he changed his mind.
Clearly you are not following the story.
There were thousands of Russion troops in Crimea and had been for many years,the thing that changed the situation was a Fascist coup in Kiev,they would have handed the Naval base over to Nato,Russia wasn't going to tolerate that.You need to check what an invasion is,its what Nato did to Iraq and Afganistahn.
rio

London, UK

#31 Aug 1, 2014
Avenger wrote:
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Crimea was invaded by Russia and now they want more land grabs around Donetsk.
Crimea was NOT invaded, and has the same right to self determination than Kosovo.

Putin warned you years ago, "What's good for the goose, is good for the gander", and now he uses the same rhetoric the West used for Kosovo.

Putin is a clever fox, and the West is defeated at its own game!!!

Many people in the West are in fact absolutely disgusted by the double standards used by their governments: USA, France, Britain, Germany, etc...
rio

London, UK

#32 Aug 1, 2014
Avenger wrote:
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Yes Crimea was invaded Putin admitted that they were Russian army he lied at first but then he changed his mind.
Clearly you are not following the story.
There was a Russian armed presence in Crimea to defend Russian navy installations, in full agreement with the Sevastopol lease.

Russia didn't invade Crimea, for the good reason that some troops were already there!
Karmarim

Sliema, Malta

#33 Aug 1, 2014
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> Probably because the CIA invented them to do their dirty work.
That's what I was implying
Avenger

Cambridge, Canada

#34 Aug 1, 2014
rio wrote:
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There was a Russian armed presence in Crimea to defend Russian navy installations, in full agreement with the Sevastopol lease.
Russia didn't invade Crimea, for the good reason that some troops were already there!
Now now Russian troops occupied the entire Crimean peninsula and annexed the territory you best look up the definition of annexation.
UN 100-11 against annexation.
But 1 Russian medal for you Rio.
rio

London, UK

#35 Aug 1, 2014
Avenger wrote:
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Now now Russian troops occupied the entire Crimean peninsula and annexed the territory you best look up the definition of annexation.
UN 100-11 against annexation.
But 1 Russian medal for you Rio.
Of course Russia annexed Crimea, but it didn't invade it.

Can't you see the difference?

And what about the people of Crimea voting overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia?

Many remember when Crimea was attached to Ukraine without any consultation!

Justice has been done. End of story.
Karmarim

Sliema, Malta

#36 Aug 1, 2014
Avenger wrote:
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Now now Russian troops occupied the entire Crimean peninsula and annexed the territory you best look up the definition of annexation.
UN 100-11 against annexation.
But 1 Russian medal for you Rio.
Maybe you should look up what the UN says about the right to self-determination. P.S. most countries in the UN support Kosovo which is an almost identical case to Crimea except the method in secession which was a lot less violent than that of Kosovo as I already pointed out.
Karmarim

Sliema, Malta

#37 Aug 1, 2014
rio wrote:
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Of course Russia annexed Crimea, but it didn't invade it.
Can't you see the difference?
And what about the people of Crimea voting overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia?
Many remember when Crimea was attached to Ukraine without any consultation!
Justice has been done. End of story.
It definitely shouldn't be looked as an invasion, more like a humanitarian intervention on the will of the people.
PROUD TO BE SERB

Adelaide, Australia

#38 Aug 2, 2014
Avenger wrote:
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The UN voted 100-11 against the Russian annexation of the Crimea.
Crimea is Russia. Thanks.
UKRAINA is Russia.
Alaska is Russia ;))
Give to Caesar what is belong to? "CAESAR"
And give to Russia what is RUSSAN LAND.
Thanks.
Putinko

Toronto, Canada

#39 Aug 2, 2014
Selfie-Obsessed Russian Soldier GeoTags Himself 'Inside Ukrainian Territory'
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/01/se...

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