CQUniversity, Australia

CQUniversity, Australia

There are 40 comments on the Asian Correspondent story from May 29, 2012, titled CQUniversity, Australia. In it, Asian Correspondent reports that:

CQUniversity is one of the most recognizable names in higher education in Australia.

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Elias

Australia

#1 May 29, 2012
Paid advertising?
Or propaganda by stealth?
Elias

Australia

#3 May 29, 2012
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
CQU - the worst university. No standard at all.
Universities are just buildings, intelligent students will thrive regardless of where they study. On the flipside you can put a dim wit in Sydney or Melbourne Uni who copies other people's assignments and learns curriculum like a parrot, earning distinctions and then never applies what they have learnt for the rest of their lives.
Turd Skin

Australia

#5 May 29, 2012
Central Queensland?
Turd Skin

Australia

#6 May 29, 2012
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
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CQU is not known for quality. Had a friend who studied his masters and it was so easy (the assignment was like my bachelor). I do happen to know that there is a lot of copying in CQU going around now - he studied with a lot of internationals who can barely even speak English. Basically if we want to talk second tier with a good reputation, it would be RMIT.
I am from a G08. Some assignments we have, we cannot even copy. It is more so of pick your own topic and write about it. The lecturer haulled 2 people up because they wrote on the same topic and they have to meet him individually to explain what was actually written on their essay.
It probably depends on what you study
Elias

Australia

#7 May 29, 2012
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
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CQU is not known for quality.
CQU is one of the newest universities (1990s) so it has to build up a reputation from scratch. It was probably a tech college in the past that's been converted into a regional based uni to largely cater for regional students who have problems accessing tertiary study in Brisbane or the Sunshine/Gold coast. As such the original staff were probably teaching focused with little research experience. Over time this changes. CQU has to earn it's stripes like everyone else to get it's CRICOS accreditation as a higher education institution.
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
Had a friend who studied his masters and it was so easy (the assignment was like my bachelor).


Actually it also depends on what you are studying. First of all if it's undergraduate or postgraduate coursework in accounting, psychology, nursing or teaching then the course has to be accredited by the respective national body for that discipline. For instance with nursing or radiology offered in CQU the textbooks and curriculum will be identical with every other institution that offers that course. It's erroneous to say a UQ graduate in nursing is superior to a CQU or Sunshine coast graduate because technically they studied exactly the same course.
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
I do happen to know that there is a lot of copying in CQU going around now - he studied with a lot of internationals who can barely even speak English.
CQU, RMIT, Curtin and Monash have all had to be innovative to obtain external funding where they are unable to compete with "sandstone unis" for competitive funding. All have allocated a large numbers of coursework places for international full fee paying students (around > 25% of places). The downside is they invariably drop standards in relation to English requirements although Monash is far harder to get into than Curtin, CQU or RMIT.

The issue of foreign students copying is equally an issue in sandstone unis as it is in newer unis.
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
Basically if we want to talk second tier with a good reputation, it would be RMIT.
RMIT? has also had major question marks over plagiarism, shonky courses and being an international student factory. Once again it really depends on the specific course, Infotech, design, engineering and architecture are well respected and RMIT has has a long history for research excellence in these areas.
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
I am from a G08. Some assignments we have, we cannot even copy. It is more so of pick your own topic and write about it. The lecturer haulled 2 people up because they wrote on the same topic and they have to meet him individually to explain what was actually written on their essay.
All universities use turnitin software which checks for plagiarism. The real value with studying undergrad at a Go8 is getting access to some of the brightest minds in the country. If you are doing science or medical research then Go8's also have some of the best facilities. However technology and innovation is making the playing field far more level these days. Online library databases are accessible from any uni as is reciprocal borrowing. I once met a engineer from Swinburne who boasted living next door to Melbourne Uni and was able to use their library for all his reading.
Elias

Australia

#8 May 29, 2012
Turd Skin wrote:
<quoted text> It probably depends on what you study
Amazingly correct turdy
Elias

Australia

#10 May 29, 2012
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
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CQU has no specialty. Yes RMIT is known for architecture somehow. So does Swinburne which is known for telecommunications engineering somehow and JCU internationally acclaimed for marine biology.
CQU nothing none nada.
I spent quite a bit of time benchmarking Australian universities while in the public service so I do know a thing or two.

Does CQU have a speciality? yes it does
- Central Queensland Innovation and Research Precinct (Formerly Cetral Queensland CSIRO)
- health and safety
- metallurgy
- railway and transport engineering
- rural health
- mining engineering
- cattle/beef research (Rockhampton is centre of Australia's beef industry)

So basically mining and agriculture
Elias

Australia

#12 May 29, 2012
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
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Ah but nothing for business which they sell to international students.
Not known internationally still.
No definitely true, I would not pick CQU to study business or IT as a first choice. It's main reputation in the Asian region is that it offers an Australian degree and it's slightly easier to get into than other Australian universities.

But lets give them credit, they have a good business model for off campus/distance studies and expanded into campuses in most Australian states including the acquisition of the Rockhampton CSIRO and Appleton Institute in South Australia.

I recall Curtin Business school in WA started like this and today they have off shore campuses.

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#13 May 30, 2012
Elias wrote:
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No definitely true, I would not pick CQU to study business or IT as a first choice. It's main reputation in the Asian region is that it offers an Australian degree and it's slightly easier to get into than other Australian universities.
But lets give them credit, they have a good business model for off campus/distance studies and expanded into campuses in most Australian states including the acquisition of the Rockhampton CSIRO and Appleton Institute in South Australia.
I recall Curtin Business school in WA started like this and today they have off shore campuses.
I am sorry but they are crap. No one in my office will actually employ a CQU grad. It is all about the rankings unfortunately. And CQU got the reputation of taking any tom dick and harry into some of the courses.
Indian Medico

Prahran, Australia

#14 May 30, 2012
From 2011, CQU have introduced a direct entry undergraduate course in Sonography in Mckay and Sydney campus. Any other Universities across Australia require a degree in Medical Imaging as a pre requisite. And guess what, the degree is accredited by Australian Sonography Registry. Also this year they have introduced Oral Health Therapist Degree. Once you successfully complete these Degrees, these are high paid occupations. If anyone thought it is a cake walk to get into any of these, no , you have to give interviews and have high grades too. CQU is a emerging University and though it may not be as strict in assessment as GO8, being in a Health field, I myself was never asked by any employer as to where I completed my clinical health degree in. As long as I have the registration to practice in a specific state, I am fine. Well, I guess Engineers are asked a few questions about University background.
Turd Skin

Australia

#15 May 30, 2012
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
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I am sorry but they are crap. No one in my office will actually employ a CQU grad. It is all about the rankings unfortunately. And CQU got the reputation of taking any tom dick and harry into some of the courses.
What industry do you work in?

Finance?
Elias

Australia

#16 May 30, 2012
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
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I am sorry but they are crap. No one in my office will actually employ a CQU grad. It is all about the rankings unfortunately. And CQU got the reputation of taking any tom dick and harry into some of the courses.
Yes this is the case in the workplace. People tend to prefer Go8 grads, especially if the employers were Go8 graduates themselves.
Elias

Australia

#17 May 30, 2012
Indian Medico wrote:
I myself was never asked by any employer as to where I completed my clinical health degree in. As long as I have the registration to practice in a specific state, I am fine. Well, I guess Engineers are asked a few questions about University background.
Where did you study?

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#18 May 30, 2012
Indian Medico wrote:
From 2011, CQU have introduced a direct entry undergraduate course in Sonography in Mckay and Sydney campus. Any other Universities across Australia require a degree in Medical Imaging as a pre requisite. And guess what, the degree is accredited by Australian Sonography Registry. Also this year they have introduced Oral Health Therapist Degree. Once you successfully complete these Degrees, these are high paid occupations. If anyone thought it is a cake walk to get into any of these, no , you have to give interviews and have high grades too. CQU is a emerging University and though it may not be as strict in assessment as GO8, being in a Health field, I myself was never asked by any employer as to where I completed my clinical health degree in. As long as I have the registration to practice in a specific state, I am fine. Well, I guess Engineers are asked a few questions about University background.


Good luck with sonography and oral hygenist. There are radiographers and sonographers moaning the lack of jobs in other forums.

They may not ask where you study because they actually expect you to put it down in your resume.

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#19 May 30, 2012
Elias wrote:
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Yes this is the case in the workplace. People tend to prefer Go8 grads, especially if the employers were Go8 graduates themselves.
Not true. Elite international firms only recruit from G08. You do not see McKinsey or Goldman Sachs going to CQU to recruit. Not often I find an executive who went to a third tier like CQU amd if they did, their post grad qualification came from a G08 or second tier.
TravelExplosion- dot-com

Astoria, NY

#20 May 30, 2012
Australia is a beautiful country. I saw a little bit of it on Travel Explosion and can't wait to visit.

Since: May 12

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#21 May 30, 2012
Indian Medico wrote:
I myself was never asked by any employer as to where I completed my clinical health degree in. As long as I have the registration to practice in a specific state, I am fine. Well, I guess Engineers are asked a few questions about University background.
I also know that you do not work in Australia as a medical professional. There have been changes to the registration process and what you are quoting is a very outdated model.

So you cannot actually speak about employers here.
Indian Medico

Spotswood, Australia

#22 May 30, 2012
OyOyOy Aussie wrote:
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I also know that you do not work in Australia as a medical professional. There have been changes to the registration process and what you are quoting is a very outdated model.
So you cannot actually speak about employers here.
There are no changes to the registration process. Being a clinical health professional in Vic and having worked in Qld, I know that there are no changes. Even the selection criteria only requires you to mention your registration with the Dental/ Medical/ Physio/oral health therapist board and demonstrated previous experience. In fact with the Public Dental Workforce scheme for overseas Dentists, a dental graduate from a Malaysian University is allowed to practice in public dental hospitals as long as he/she is willing to undertake final clinical assessment of the registration process in Australia. There are many who choose this option. My point here is medical graduate from Western Sydney Uni or Monash Uni will have the same opportunities to find a position in Prince Alfred Hospital as long as you can demonstrate your experience.

Radiographers may be finding it a little difficult to find a compulsory professional year to train but sonographers are in very high demand in Australia if you successfully complete a accredited course like the one in CQU. Need evidence? Just type in sonographer on seek and there are usually about 70 jobs and many agencies recruit multiple positions.

Are you insane? Oral health therapists find a job even before they graduate, however the starting salary isn't great. Most of the graduates I know of have found a job in their final sem. It is not surprising that anything related to oral health is in extremely high demand.

Obviously, if you do accredited course in a health field such as the ones mentioned above and chose to sit at home and smoke pot, you are not going to catch a cold.
Indian Medico

Spotswood, Australia

#23 May 30, 2012
Elias wrote:
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Where did you study?
I completed undergrads in South India and Post grad at West Syd Uni

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#24 May 30, 2012
Indian Medico wrote:
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There are no changes to the registration process. Being a clinical health professional in Vic and having worked in Qld, I know that there are no changes. Even the selection criteria only requires you to mention your registration with the Dental/ Medical/ Physio/oral health therapist board and demonstrated previous experience. In fact with the Public Dental Workforce scheme for overseas Dentists, a dental graduate from a Malaysian University is allowed to practice in public dental hospitals as long as he/she is willing to undertake final clinical assessment of the registration process in Australia. There are many who choose this option. My point here is medical graduate from Western Sydney Uni or Monash Uni will have the same opportunities to find a position in Prince Alfred Hospital as long as you can demonstrate your experience.
Radiographers may be finding it a little difficult to find a compulsory professional year to train but sonographers are in very high demand in Australia if you successfully complete a accredited course like the one in CQU. Need evidence? Just type in sonographer on seek and there are usually about 70 jobs and many agencies recruit multiple positions.
Are you insane? Oral health therapists find a job even before they graduate, however the starting salary isn't great. Most of the graduates I know of have found a job in their final sem. It is not surprising that anything related to oral health is in extremely high demand.
Obviously, if you do accredited course in a health field such as the ones mentioned above and chose to sit at home and smoke pot, you are not going to catch a cold.

Explain the AHPRA registration process. The registration was nationalised 2 years ago which contradicts your 'registration to practice in a specific state'

Dentistry, doctors, nurses, certain allied health. My relative was moaning about the cost the other day. That was why I found it suspicious unless you are not a medical dr.

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