Miner accused of bankrolling anti-Labor campaign

Mar 20, 2012 Full story: ABC News 16

Ms Jones says thousands of letters have been sent to her constituents, claiming to be from mothers concerned about sand mining closures on Stradbroke Island.

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LMR

Melbourne, Australia

#1 Mar 20, 2012
So heart warming to see these obscenely wealthy mining magnates get so worked up about the important issues ie. sparing themselves a little tax money.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#2 Mar 20, 2012
With a carbon tax on mining that is already seeing the price of electricity set to rise a whopping $155 as a direct cost of the tax, and that is just one item there are going to be many more like your cup of coffee in a cafe or meal out etc....So I am on the side of the mining in opposing this tax that is going to see the average joe paying, not the mining magnate because as with all bussiness they will and are going to pass those costs onto all of us the users....so I want them to win their suit against the government for the most obvious of reasons.....my dwindling pay packet...
LMR

Melbourne, Australia

#3 Mar 20, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
With a carbon tax on mining that is already seeing the price of electricity set to rise a whopping $155 as a direct cost of the tax, and that is just one item there are going to be many more like your cup of coffee in a cafe or meal out etc....So I am on the side of the mining in opposing this tax that is going to see the average joe paying, not the mining magnate because as with all bussiness they will and are going to pass those costs onto all of us the users....so I want them to win their suit against the government for the most obvious of reasons.....my dwindling pay packet...
If the government does what it pledged to do and channels some of the proceeds of those taxes towards green energy initiatives then hopefully it will not be too long before it is economically viable to switch to more efficient and cleaner energy forms.

The implementation of new solar power technology has been very slow but there have been some wonderful advances and ideas that should be being utilised but which are not.

Whenever people would say solar power technology is not good enough I would always argue that, in that case, it should be made better! Business has to get on board in order to make the technology improve and for customers to want the product.
Noel

Brisbane, Australia

#4 Mar 20, 2012
If it goes to court it could all come undone. The Government's lies and spin will count for nothing there. It's just a pity we can't jail them for stuffing up a great country. I feel sorry for the mess the next Government of Australia will have to rectify. We have been set back 10 years and there is nothing in the bank other than debt. We need an accident to wipe out the Government now.
Noel

Brisbane, Australia

#5 Mar 20, 2012
LMR wrote:
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If the government does what it pledged to do and channels some of the proceeds of those taxes towards green energy initiatives then ...
They seem to be channeling most of the money to buy votes.
Noel

Brisbane, Australia

#6 Mar 20, 2012
LMR wrote:
So heart warming to see these obscenely wealthy mining magnates get so worked up about the important issues ie. sparing themselves a little tax money.
I doubt you understand that the Australian way means a fair go for everyone and not just for yourself.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#7 Mar 20, 2012
LMR wrote:
<quoted text>
If the government does what it pledged to do and channels some of the proceeds of those taxes towards green energy initiatives then hopefully it will not be too long before it is economically viable to switch to more efficient and cleaner energy forms.
The implementation of new solar power technology has been very slow but there have been some wonderful advances and ideas that should be being utilised but which are not.
Whenever people would say solar power technology is not good enough I would always argue that, in that case, it should be made better! Business has to get on board in order to make the technology improve and for customers to want the product.
What are the chances when the government get a hold of that money that it will be spent where it is intended....we have had the same situation with road tax and other designer taxes...they are simply created to fill the tax chest....In other countries that have a carbon tax with the intent to create a boost in energy efficiency it has been a failure because the money has not been spent where it should have been....what makes be agry is that I understand why people support it, but they are being lied to...and lied to because those that support it with good intentions are actually allowing the government to rip us off again because they can't afford to have the electricity companies lose money they did this to ensure they didn't....the only way we will ever get any self sufficient energy in this country is if big bussiness get behind it and see an advantage to them for doing it....it is the only way any progress is made in this country..... discovering better and more ...the government cut the rebate on solar panels they are for you staying yoked to the system....
LMR

Melbourne, Australia

#8 Mar 20, 2012
Noel wrote:
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I doubt you understand that the Australian way means a fair go for everyone and not just for yourself.
The Australian way used to be for a fair go for the ordinary person - it wasn't about helping the wealthy get more wealthy at the expense of the ordinary person.
LMR

Melbourne, Australia

#9 Mar 20, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
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What are the chances when the government get a hold of that money that it will be spent where it is intended....we have had the same situation with road tax and other designer taxes...they are simply created to fill the tax chest....In other countries that have a carbon tax with the intent to create a boost in energy efficiency it has been a failure because the money has not been spent where it should have been....what makes be agry is that I understand why people support it, but they are being lied to...and lied to because those that support it with good intentions are actually allowing the government to rip us off again because they can't afford to have the electricity companies lose money they did this to ensure they didn't....the only way we will ever get any self sufficient energy in this country is if big bussiness get behind it and see an advantage to them for doing it....it is the only way any progress is made in this country..... discovering better and more ...the government cut the rebate on solar panels they are for you staying yoked to the system....
I am sceptical of how that money will be spent too.
rastas

Australia

#10 Mar 20, 2012
LMR wrote:
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I am sceptical of how that money will be spent too.
Don't worry they will give it back to their backers the mining industry, whether it is the liberal party in power or labor, no difference between them, all corrupt.
Rolly

Brisbane, Australia

#11 Mar 23, 2012
RASTAS YOU FORGET LIBERAL NATIONAL'S ROLE IN CORRUPTION IN QUEENSLAND THAT DENIED PEOPLE BASIC RIGHTS FOR DECADES.
YOU FORGET THE CORRUPTION INHERENT IN LIB NATS THAT DRIVES THEM TO ABUSE ANYONE WHO STANDS UP FOR ACCOUNTABILITY.
YOU FORGET ROB BORBIDGES CORRUPTION RUSSELL HINZE, YOU FORGET THE ABUSES SUFFERED BY THE ORDININARY CITIZEN UNDER THE BJELKE PETERSON AND POLICE STATE REGIMENT.
YOU FORGET YOU HAD NO RIGHTS.
IF YOU WANT A RETURN TO SUCH ABUSES AND MORE THEN VOTE LIB NATS.

IF YOU WANT ONGOING ACCOUNTABILITY AND FREEDOM, IF YOU WANT BALANCE AND YOUR SAY THEN DON'T VOTE FOR THEM.

Labor never went wrong. They dealt equitably in the face of the unexpected and Lib Nats will always only deal secretively, against your very right to life.

Rolly. x
Rolly

Brisbane, Australia

#12 Mar 23, 2012
DONT BE FOOLED BY FAST TALKERS. NEWMAN IS A RAG WHO IS OUT FOR HIS OWN INTERESTS. HE'S SPENDING MILLIONS OF OUR MONEY TO MAKE SURE HE GETS HIW OWN BLACKMAILING WAY. HE IS NOT EVEN AN ELECTED LEADER HE IS A BULLY. DON'T THINK HE WILL MAKE GOVERNMENT BETTER. IT WILL BE WHAT LIB NAT STANDS FOR SELF INTEREST. AND SELF INTEREST HARMS THE MASSES.
Blunt

Brisbane, Australia

#13 Mar 23, 2012
Ahomana wrote:
With a carbon tax on mining that is already seeing the price of electricity set to rise a whopping $155 as a direct cost of the tax, and that is just one item there are going to be many more like your cup of coffee in a cafe or meal out etc....So I am on the side of the mining in opposing this tax that is going to see the average joe paying, not the mining magnate because as with all bussiness they will and are going to pass those costs onto all of us the users....so I want them to win their suit against the government for the most obvious of reasons.....my dwindling pay packet...
It has been conclusively proven , that the carbon tax will have little to do with the rise in electricity costs. The overall cost-of-living will be effected by less than 2%....you have fallen for the saturation propaganda about the carbon tax, I;m afraid .
Blunt

Brisbane, Australia

#14 Mar 23, 2012
House holds will be compensated if the carbon tax , for any unforseen reason ,increases the cost of domestic power. One way this could happen , is by greedy "privatised" power companies to raise their prices and blame it on the carbon tax, which is incorrect......the "carbon tax"issue is not that important in the scheme of things , no matter what the media tells you...
scooterman

Preston, Australia

#15 Mar 23, 2012
Noel wrote:
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I doubt you understand that the Australian way means a fair go for everyone and not just for yourself.
I'm sure the mining magnates get more than a fair go when they have federal politicians at their beck and call, WA politicians as their sockpuppets and they can freely entertain us with stories about CIA/Greens anti-mining collusion in the media.

Since: Dec 10

Perth, Australia

#16 Mar 23, 2012
Blunt wrote:
<quoted text>It has been conclusively proven , that the carbon tax will have little to do with the rise in electricity costs. The overall cost-of-living will be effected by less than 2%....you have fallen for the saturation propaganda about the carbon tax, I;m afraid .
I recall everyone saying to me that the GST is a good thing and they won't be taxing school uniforms, Groceries etc....and I recall saying to them that they won't tax them .......but if they are taxing truck and car tyre, maintenence and the like how do the schools get their goods and yes you guessed it, by trucks and vans...do you think because of the extra they are paying for the GST for their on road cost that they wouldn't pass them on....and it did't take long to prove that was the case as because of the extra in delivery costs those things that weren't being taxed directly added to consumer costs indirectly they same will happen with the carbon tax...do you think those being charged that are going to swallow those costs....no they will pass them on down the line so anything made from their minerals, materials will see those costs passed down the line so even though mining is paying those taxes directly they will recoup them indirectly....from everyone that consumes the end products....I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I know that much...so not I am not being swayed by propaganda I am using common sense...no bussiness will absorb those costs without some way of recouping them it is what is called a compounding tax....and it will work exactly the same as the GST... all those who aren't expected to pay tax WILL indirectly be paying the tax for the mining companies...and that will be the consummer.....but hey you believe the hype and propaganda of any government saying it wont effect the consummer and if it does they will be reimbursed for it and I tell you there is no way the any reimbursment the government has promissed will even come close...and they know it as did the Liberals the only ones that don't, are the ones who think that this won't be the case.....More fool them. The miners aren't paying this tax it is us that will, just think about it logically.....

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