Turkey: Following the Anzacs

Apr 23, 2013 Full story: The New Zealand Herald 33

People on this side of the world have a clear picture of Gallipoli: mateship, valour, sacrifice in a small campaign that we lost on the way to winning World War I. It's far more complicated for Turkish people.

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Ford EL

Australia

#1 Apr 24, 2013
Lest we forget.
CANNIONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#2 Apr 25, 2013
Ford EL wrote:
Lest we forget.
none of that shall ever be forgotten ...
we as Turks had to fight the world to preserve our independence ,nation,country which at times were seen almost impossible to do.This also brought your people very close to us too
as we faced an enemy as being equal in bravery,respect and honesty.
for that we salute you forever and may this event be a lesson to us all;
we need not war
but peace at all cost.

always remember this though we shall always keep your people dear to our hearts since many of your forefathers has fallen in our lands and became one with us.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#3 Apr 25, 2013
I have consistently stated my own view of what occurred in 1915, and my view has not changed (It was a GENOCIDE). A full, frank, and just acknowledgement of the facts is in all of our interests. Nations grow stronger by acknowledging and reckoning with painful elements of the past, thereby building a foundation for a more just and tolerant future. We appreciate this lesson in the United States, as we strive to reconcile some of the darkest moments in our own history. We recognize those courageous Armenians and Turks who have already taken this path, and encourage more to do so, with the backing of their governments, and mine.

President OBAMA
24/4/2013

Background info:

The 12 nov 1914 turkish Jihad fatwa was based on a LIE;
IT (CUP) Ottoman turks attacked Russia first for no reason and not the other way around.
Therefore IT turks, as aggressor criminals, abused Islam and Allah by declaring an uncalled for JIHAD.
JIHAD is supposed to be "struggle to excell"
But the turks abused it as a tool for their Turk Islam Empire dream.
The Fatwa implied Ottoman Armenians and other Anatolian Christians as targets by not keeping them exempt, like it clearly did for their Christian Allies, Germans and Austrians, from hostilities ordered by the Jihad fatwa.
Finally, the TEHCIR (deportation)law specifically declared and exposed Armenians as open TARGETS for extermination, sanctioned by the Jihad Fatwa.
Therefore, instead of denying,
Unless TR comes out clean and admits that;
the Armenian Genocide was a direct outcome of Nov 1914 (Fake)Jihad Declaration and the proceeding 1915 TEHCIR (deportation) Law exposing the Armenians and other Civilian Christians of the region as ENEMIES paraded as TARGETS to be exterminated,
TR will be regarded as the immoral promoter of the similar "Jihadist" Terror happening all over the world today.
Those individuals giving support to the Turkish State DENIAL policy in the name of LOYALTY are wanton culprits in this crime against humanity.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#4 Apr 25, 2013
Dander wrote:
I have consistently stated my own view of what occurred in 1915, and my view has not changed (It was a GENOCIDE). A full, frank, and just acknowledgement of the facts is in all of our interests. Nations grow stronger by acknowledging and reckoning with painful elements of the past, thereby building a foundation for a more just and tolerant future. We appreciate this lesson in the United States, as we strive to reconcile some of the darkest moments in our own history. We recognize those courageous Armenians and Turks who have already taken this path, and encourage more to do so, with the backing of their governments, and mine.
President OBAMA
24/4/2013

Background info:
The 12 nov 1914 turkish Jihad fatwa was based on a LIE;
IT (CUP) Ottoman turks attacked Russia first for no reason and not the other way around.
Therefore IT turks, as aggressor criminals, abused Islam and Allah by declaring an uncalled for JIHAD.
JIHAD is supposed to be "struggle to excell"
But the turks abused it as a tool for their Turk Islam Empire dream.
The Fatwa implied Ottoman Armenians and other Anatolian Christians as targets by not keeping them exempt, like it clearly did for their Christian Allies, Germans and Austrians, from hostilities ordered by the Jihad fatwa.
Finally, the TEHCIR (deportation)law specifically declared and exposed Armenians as open TARGETS for extermination, sanctioned by the Jihad Fatwa.
Therefore, instead of denying,
Unless TR comes out clean and admits that;
the Armenian Genocide was a direct outcome of Nov 1914 (Fake)Jihad Declaration and the proceeding 1915 TEHCIR (deportation) Law exposing the Armenians and other Civilian Christians of the region as ENEMIES paraded as TARGETS to be exterminated,
TR will be regarded as the immoral promoter of the similar "Jihadist" Terror happening all over the world today.
Those individuals giving support to the Turkish State DENIAL policy in the name of LOYALTY are wanton culprits in this crime against humanity.
Tobe honest i didn`t wanna say this but you asked for it now...
the people i respect as above are although foreiggners to us in name,religion,social status etc,they are one with us since they fought like heroes for a cause they believed in,lost it and still appreciate how much we respect and love them.as for your stupid,retarded ancestors and the diaspora degenerates since then and even today ; back-stabbed ,lied,deceived their own as well as everybody else around them,committed frauds on a grand scale within ottomans,americas,europe and the rest still shall get absolutely nothing from us;no respect,no friendship,no tolerance,no help,as you are still the same degenerates,liars and worthless clan who shall still deceive,kill like a "kalles",untrustwort hy and with, as a result of centruies of inbreeding as ugly as ever.For this you can count on us..

as for the borders;shut forever so go and get fcuked,you common criminals.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#5 Apr 25, 2013
Those individuals giving support to the Turkish State DENIAL policy in the name of LOYALTY are wanton culprits in this crime against humanity.
placebo

Athens, Greece

#6 Apr 25, 2013
CANNIONBALLER wrote:
<quoted text>
none of that shall ever be forgotten ...
we as Turks had to fight the world to preserve our independence ,nation,country which at times were seen almost impossible to do.This also brought your people very close to us too
as we faced an enemy as being equal in bravery,respect and honesty.
for that we salute you forever and may this event be a lesson to us all;
we need not war
but peace at all cost.
always remember this though we shall always keep your people dear to our hearts since many of your forefathers has fallen in our lands and became one with us.
what nation you got re hayvan?
SIKTIR GIT!
Mustafa budala
malaka till death
Mullah Hunkiar
"The concept of the Turkish nation is new. This is a concept that was introduced after 1923, a new nation created by the Muslim nations and tribes in the East and rallied to form the Turkish nation."
Birgul Ayman Guler
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#7 Apr 25, 2013
placebo wrote:
<quoted text>
what nation you got re hayvan?
SIKTIR GIT!
Mustafa budala
malaka till death
Mullah Hunkiar
"The concept of the Turkish nation is new. This is a concept that was introduced after 1923, a new nation created by the Muslim nations and tribes in the East and rallied to form the Turkish nation."
Birgul Ayman Guler
Oi Kalamari..
first of all you try and get your as.. out of the ringer then start barking up the wrong tree you retarded,uneducated cleuless imbecile.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#8 Apr 25, 2013
CANNONBALLER wrote:
<quoted text>
Oi Kalamari..
first of all you try and get your as.. out of the ringer then start barking up the wrong tree you retarded,uneducated cleuless imbecile.
Kumbara
There is no need for us to waste time trying to educate you in Ali schools.
Likes of Birgul Ayman are enough to float scums like you to the top to be skimmed and discarded.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#9 Apr 26, 2013
Dander wrote:
<quoted text>Kumbara
There is no need for us to waste time trying to educate you in Ali schools.
Likes of Birgul Ayman are enough to float scums like you to the top to be skimmed and discarded.
who is you?????
who cares what you think?
do you really think anybody gives a fcuk on the armenian issue..your lot has nothing else but keep bringing the same ballox on the table..its boring,dull,repetetive,absolut e and utter BS..be creative bring something else..something like ;"if we fcuk off from karabag shall the azeris still wanna fcuk us?"..things like that!..thats the future Dingo,yoiu may not like what you hear but basically that`s it!and also,how long do you think the new SSSR will keep bailing out the yerevan shitehole?russia has tehir own troubles,increasingly more in the future too..soon the new sssr shall remain on the other side of the Urals...then what?armenia home alone!!!
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#10 Apr 26, 2013
placebo wrote:
<quoted text>
what nation you got re hayvan?
SIKTIR GIT!
Mustafa budala
malaka till death
Mullah Hunkiar
"The concept of the Turkish nation is new. This is a concept that was introduced after 1923, a new nation created by the Muslim nations and tribes in the East and rallied to form the Turkish nation."
Birgul Ayman Guler
kalamaris...
bilmen lazim Ki biz SIKER gideriz!
Anneannen bile nasibini aldi marpucun ,siraya girme istersen,sonra yuruyemezsin!
Mehmetciktravest ilar

Athens, Greece

#11 Apr 26, 2013
CANNONBALLER wrote:
<quoted text>
kalamaris...
bilmen lazim Ki biz SIKER gideriz!
Anneannen bile nasibini aldi marpucun ,siraya girme istersen,sonra yuruyemezsin!
take my paparis
islamized nothing
"The concept of the Turkish nation is new. This is a concept that was introduced after 1923, a new nation created by the Muslim nations and tribes in the East and rallied to form the Turkish nation."
Birgul Ayman Guler
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#12 Apr 26, 2013
CANNONBALLER wrote:
<quoted text>
who is you?????
who cares what you think?
do you really think anybody gives a fcuk on the armenian issue..your lot has nothing else but keep bringing the same ballox on the table..its boring,dull,repetetive,absolut e and utter BS..be creative bring something else..something like ;"if we fcuk off from karabag shall the azeris still wanna fcuk us?"..things like that!..thats the future Dingo,yoiu may not like what you hear but basically that`s it!and also,how long do you think the new SSSR will keep bailing out the yerevan shitehole?russia has tehir own troubles,increasingly more in the future too..soon the new sssr shall remain on the other side of the Urals...then what?armenia home alone!!!
Kumbara
ask your azik brothers who we are.
poor buggers thought you would come to the rescue with another Kafkas Islam army but; TISSSSSSSSSS
you proved you are nothing more than a turkified muslim IT remnant.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#13 Apr 27, 2013
Dander wrote:
<quoted text>Kumbara
ask your azik brothers who we are.
poor buggers thought you would come to the rescue with another Kafkas Islam army but; TISSSSSSSSSS
you proved you are nothing more than a turkified muslim IT remnant.
no need..
we know you better than them..
you can scream and shout but you are alrady silenced in our ears.you and your lot shall only keep talking out of your derrier while we do the deeds.17th biggest economy in the world and still climbing up and not an armenian ape to slow us down in the horizon..
jealousy ain`t gonna get you anywhere..
furthermore ,from now onwards i can`t see any reproachment between our people as you people cannot be trusted at any level..so why should we bother with our one time ungrateful "friends" turned back-stabbers.Now since the borders are sealed shut forever the new USSR shall not be able to offload the cost of keeping you alive,and has to spend good money after bad since you shall not be alowed to trade and prosper...i know this is what really fcuks you lot up..but hey,you wanted this and you got it!
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#14 Apr 27, 2013
Mehmetciktravestilar wrote:
<quoted text>
take my paparis
islamized nothing
"The concept of the Turkish nation is new. This is a concept that was introduced after 1923, a new nation created by the Muslim nations and tribes in the East and rallied to form the Turkish nation."
Birgul Ayman Guler
I have no idea what you will do when we build another mosque inside the parthenon you ungrateful greaseball!
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#15 Apr 27, 2013
Kumbara
you sound like a muslim mahalle karisi stuck in London.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#16 Apr 27, 2013
Dander wrote:
Kumbara
you sound like a muslim mahalle karisi stuck in London.
even that`s better than a hopeless kefere stuck under an Aussie.
Enjoy your bendover.
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#17 Apr 27, 2013
Kumbara
now you talked like true a Ali school dropout kaporta beater, the son of muslim mahalle karisi, stuck in london.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#18 Apr 27, 2013
Dander wrote:
Kumbara
now you talked like true a Ali school dropout kaporta beater, the son of muslim mahalle karisi, stuck in london.
do you know the alphabet kefere under down- under?
Dander

Sydney, Australia

#19 Apr 27, 2013
Kumbara
Okuzu Kangal, seni Boris siksin.
You may swap during your holidays.
CANNONBALLER

Northampton, UK

#20 Apr 28, 2013
Dander wrote:
Kumbara
Okuzu Kangal, seni Boris siksin.
You may swap during your holidays.
TISK...TISK..TISK...sana hic yakismadi boyle konusmak adi kefere..
hani sen cok terbiyeli,onurlu bir ermeni kefereydin..ne oldu bir anda kendi tanimina gore;Turklestin...hic utanmadin mi cinsi bozuk
kole.

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