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Ahead of Israel visit, Obama tells US Jewish leaders prospects for Mideast peace are bleak

There are 37 comments on the The Washington Post story from Mar 7, 2013, titled Ahead of Israel visit, Obama tells US Jewish leaders prospects for Mideast peace are bleak. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

President Barack Obama told American Jewish leaders Thursday that near-term prospects for Mideast peace may be bleak, but a deal with the Palestinians remains the only way for Israel to achieve long-term security.

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justice

Godalming, UK

#1 Mar 7, 2013
Presidents, politicians, prime ministers - non can ever achieve peace, because they are not destined by God.
ONLY THE MESSIAH will achieve that. Because God is the one whom will open doors for the Messiah.
Henry

Las Vegas, NV

#2 Mar 8, 2013
justice wrote:
Presidents, politicians, prime ministers - non can ever achieve peace, because they are not destined by God.
ONLY THE MESSIAH will achieve that. Because God is the one whom will open doors for the Messiah.
What you say assures there never will be peace. Religion has caused so many wars
justice

Godalming, UK

#3 Mar 8, 2013
Henry wrote:
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What you say assures there never will be peace. Religion has caused so many wars
You most go back in the past for the roots - God did not start any religions - man did.
Religion breeds all kinds of evil - so many religions yet they claim only one God.

Abram was not the father of three religions. In fact those religions Judaism Christianity, and Islam were not around in Abram's day.

Abram did not begin any religions.

Hope you understand what I am saying to you.
Henry

Las Vegas, NV

#4 Mar 8, 2013
justice wrote:
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You most go back in the past for the roots - God did not start any religions - man did.
Religion breeds all kinds of evil - so many religions yet they claim only one God.
Abram was not the father of three religions. In fact those religions Judaism Christianity, and Islam were not around in Abram's day.
Abram did not begin any religions.
Hope you understand what I am saying to you.
I do understand what you are saying.

I also understand we live in the 20th century not the dark ages.
We need to renounce violence on all sides.

Nothings Perfect so we as humans need to find a way to accept all people, races and religions. Israelis and Arabs can live in peace. But you have to see the elements that want Israel destroyed. Israel sits on a peice of land about the size of New Jersey. Anyone who has been to Israel knows Arabs and Jews do live peacefully amoung each other within its borders. Sure, there are elements of racism. There is everwhere, every country. Does that make it right? NO. Does that call for an elimination of a people? NO

Palestinians can have a state if they get back to the table and negotiate peace. But instead, they elected Hamas, a proxy of Iran, whos govt has indicated its desire to eliminate Israel while obtaining nuclear weapons to acheive that goal. Israel has absolutely no intention of ever striking Iran militarily or worse yet, nuclear unless it is attacked or firmly beleives thru intellegence, that she will be attacked.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#6 Mar 8, 2013
justice wrote:
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You most go back in the past for the roots - God did not start any religions - man did.
Religion breeds all kinds of evil - so many religions yet they claim only one God.
Abram was not the father of three religions. In fact those religions Judaism Christianity, and Islam were not around in Abram's day.
Abram did not begin any religions.
Hope you understand what I am saying to you.
Abraham did not start any religions, he was the first believer in One God. The prophets Micah and Isaiah defined who that God was. Jesus Christ is credited for being the founder of Christianity, the Son of that One God. Mohammed is credited for being the founder of Islam, the prophet above prophets who had contact with that One God (in Arabic Allah, in Hebrew HaShem, which means "The Name." To call Him Yahweh, you would be breaking the Third Commandment, because you are saying His name in vain.) So actually, Micah, Isaiah, Jesus Christ, and Mohammed started religions, but they all go back to Abraham, the first believer in One God.
Truth Sayer

Lynchburg, VA

#7 Mar 8, 2013
justice wrote:
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You most go back in the past for the roots - God did not start any religions - man did.
Religion breeds all kinds of evil - so many religions yet they claim only one God.
Abram was not the father of three religions. In fact those religions Judaism Christianity, and Islam were not around in Abram's day.
Abram did not begin any religions.
Hope you understand what I am saying to you.
So your denying Exodus and Leviticus where God gave the stone commandments, the setting up the priest hood, setting up the temple in which God was to be worshiped, the animal sacrifices and the laws for the Jews to follow? God set up the religion and the rules for Jews to follow to begin with for his religion. It was God who set the way of sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins through blood sacrifice. Sure sounds like God put the laws down for his way of man to worship him in a religious way. Don't know what bible you read or what religion you are. One only has to study to know that there was only one true God who manifested himself to man and set the laws down for religious worship. But I concede that man did set up other false religions to follow worshiping false gods and idols but my point is that it was God that set up the only true religion for which led man to salvation. It was the Jewish God who manifested himself to man and none of any other gods had presented themselves nor shown the power that the Jewish God showed to mankind.
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#8 Mar 8, 2013
Jerusalem is holy to the Jews, Christians, and Muslims. You cannot talk about one without the other. The same as Varanasi in India, it is holy to the Hindus, Jains, and Buddhists. You cannot talk about one without the other.
justice

Godalming, UK

#9 Mar 9, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> Abraham did not start any religions, he was the first believer in One God. The prophets Micah and Isaiah defined who that God was. Jesus Christ is credited for being the founder of Christianity, the Son of that One God. Mohammed is credited for being the founder of Islam, the prophet above prophets who had contact with that One God (in Arabic Allah, in Hebrew HaShem, which means "The Name." To call Him Yahweh, you would be breaking the Third Commandment, because you are saying His name in vain.) So actually, Micah, Isaiah, Jesus Christ, and Mohammed started religions, but they all go back to Abraham, the first believer in One God.
Abram believed in gods - his birthplace was Mesopotamia.
He was an Amorite who went into Egypt.

Ezekiel wrote about Jerusalem,'Your father was an Amorite, your mother was an Hittite.'

You say Jesus was the son of God. My question to you is 'Who was God's wife?
justice

Godalming, UK

#10 Mar 9, 2013
Truth Sayer wrote:
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So your denying Exodus and Leviticus where God gave the stone commandments, the setting up the priest hood, setting up the temple in which God was to be worshiped, the animal sacrifices and the laws for the Jews to follow? God set up the religion and the rules for Jews to follow to begin with for his religion. It was God who set the way of sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins through blood sacrifice. Sure sounds like God put the laws down for his way of man to worship him in a religious way. Don't know what bible you read or what religion you are. One only has to study to know that there was only one true God who manifested himself to man and set the laws down for religious worship. But I concede that man did set up other false religions to follow worshiping false gods and idols but my point is that it was God that set up the only true religion for which led man to salvation. It was the Jewish God who manifested himself to man and none of any other gods had presented themselves nor shown the power that the Jewish God showed to mankind.
The true exodus WAS THE HYKSOS EXODUS - KNOW YOUR HISTORY.
Abram obeyed laws long before the so called Mosaic laws - Genesis 26 verse 5
ESW3554

Bethel, CT

#11 Mar 9, 2013
Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Homosexuals... they ruin everything.
justice

Godalming, UK

#12 Mar 9, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> Abraham did not start any religions, he was the first believer in One God. The prophets Micah and Isaiah defined who that God was. Jesus Christ is credited for being the founder of Christianity, the Son of that One God. Mohammed is credited for being the founder of Islam, the prophet above prophets who had contact with that One God (in Arabic Allah, in Hebrew HaShem, which means "The Name." To call Him Yahweh, you would be breaking the Third Commandment, because you are saying His name in vain.) So actually, Micah, Isaiah, Jesus Christ, and Mohammed started religions, but they all go back to Abraham, the first believer in One God.
SO THEREFORE, ABRAM WAS NOT A JEW NOT A MOSLEM AND NOT A CHRISTIAN.
He was an Amorite from Mesopotamia. He left his native land of Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) because he was born there.
Ezekiel wrote to Jerusalem,'Your father was an Amorite, and your mother was an Hittite.'
justice

Godalming, UK

#13 Mar 9, 2013
Truth Sayer wrote:
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So your denying Exodus and Leviticus where God gave the stone commandments, the setting up the priest hood, setting up the temple in which God was to be worshiped, the animal sacrifices and the laws for the Jews to follow? God set up the religion and the rules for Jews to follow to begin with for his religion. It was God who set the way of sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins through blood sacrifice. Sure sounds like God put the laws down for his way of man to worship him in a religious way. Don't know what bible you read or what religion you are. One only has to study to know that there was only one true God who manifested himself to man and set the laws down for religious worship. But I concede that man did set up other false religions to follow worshiping false gods and idols but my point is that it was God that set up the only true religion for which led man to salvation. It was the Jewish God who manifested himself to man and none of any other gods had presented themselves nor shown the power that the Jewish God showed to mankind.
THE TRUE EXODUS OUT OF EGYPT WAS THE HYKSOS.

YOU STATE GOD SET UP BLOOD SACRIFICE OF A HUMAN BEING - IT IS BARBARIC.

WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMD IS THE HYMN THEY SING - CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT WASHED IN HIS BLOOD.

Sorry but I believe in the gods of Abram. If it was good enough for him, then its good enough for me!
Tim Upham

Nine Mile Falls, WA

#15 Mar 9, 2013
justice wrote:
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SO THEREFORE, ABRAM WAS NOT A JEW NOT A MOSLEM AND NOT A CHRISTIAN.
He was an Amorite from Mesopotamia. He left his native land of Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) because he was born there.
Ezekiel wrote to Jerusalem,'Your father was an Amorite, and your mother was an Hittite.'
The Amorites were a nomadic people who lived in the mountains of Syria and Israel. Many times the names Amorite and Canaanite are used interchangeable, because the Amorites lived in the land of Canaan. Abraham was the son of Terah, who was a idol maker, Abraham as a child destroyed his father's idols and chased people out of his shop. Abraham was a Hebrew, which comes from the word "Ivri," which means "to traverse." Both the Hebrews and the Phoenicians spoke a Canaanite language, which means they were of similar origin. But keep in mind that many people were nomadic, until they settled down.
Truth Sayer

Lynchburg, VA

#16 Mar 9, 2013
justice wrote:
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The true exodus WAS THE HYKSOS EXODUS - KNOW YOUR HISTORY.
Abram obeyed laws long before the so called Mosaic laws - Genesis 26 verse 5
The laws that Abraham obeyed where the laws under which God instructed. Not man made laws. The exodus involved Moses leading the Jewish people out yet you still evaded the question as to what religion are you affiliated with and the fact that God set up the law, the daily sacrifice of blood for atonement of sins and the temple construction for the Jews to worship him. Yet you haven't acknowledged that besides man inventing religion as you state and God didn't you contradicted your self. Jehovah Witness or Morman?
Truth Sayer

Lynchburg, VA

#17 Mar 9, 2013
justice wrote:
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THE TRUE EXODUS OUT OF EGYPT WAS THE HYKSOS.
YOU STATE GOD SET UP BLOOD SACRIFICE OF A HUMAN BEING - IT IS BARBARIC.
WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMD IS THE HYMN THEY SING - CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT WASHED IN HIS BLOOD.
Sorry but I believe in the gods of Abram. If it was good enough for him, then its good enough for me!
Boy you really are out in space some where. I did not state human sacrifice and if you claim to know the Jewish bible you would know that it was animal sacrifices not human. For it was to signify the shedding of blood for the atonement of sin which Christ became the final sacrifice for all of mans sin that signified the end of having priests make an atonement for your sins.
paul SHYKORA arts

Calgary, Canada

#18 Mar 9, 2013
..oh me oh my...there NEVER WAS ..a PEACE-PROCESS,here...eh...Wake -UP...
Truth Sayer

Lynchburg, VA

#19 Mar 9, 2013
paul SHYKORA arts wrote:
..oh me oh my...there NEVER WAS ..a PEACE-PROCESS,here...eh...Wake -UP...
I agree with you 100% and there never will be peace in the middle east for as long as there is hatred and the desire for complete extinction of all Jews. There will be a war coming unlike mankind has ever seen and it will involve the middle east and most of the world.
Truth Sayer

Lynchburg, VA

#20 Mar 9, 2013
justice wrote:
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THE TRUE EXODUS OUT OF EGYPT WAS THE HYKSOS.
YOU STATE GOD SET UP BLOOD SACRIFICE OF A HUMAN BEING - IT IS BARBARIC.
WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMD IS THE HYMN THEY SING - CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT WASHED IN HIS BLOOD.
Sorry but I believe in the gods of Abram. If it was good enough for him, then its good enough for me!
So you admit you believe in multiple gods as per your quote the gods of Abram. Christ was only a sacrificial lamb to finally solidify the way for man kind for atonement of his sins. The final sacrifice for which God himself manifested his spirit in the flesh to do so. For always in mans history there has been shedding of blood. The animal sacrifices that god instructed the Jews to perform was the basis for the final shedding of blood for which Christ became that sacrifice. For if you know, there is only but one God. The God of Abraham and Isaac. No other God sits beside him or below him.
justice

Godalming, UK

#22 Mar 9, 2013
ESW3554 wrote:
Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Homosexuals... they ruin everything.
so you must be white - and so righteous.

or an Hypocrite christian?

Trace your history we all came out of Africa - and that is a FACT!
justice

Godalming, UK

#23 Mar 10, 2013
Tim Upham wrote:
<quoted text> The Amorites were a nomadic people who lived in the mountains of Syria and Israel. Many times the names Amorite and Canaanite are used interchangeable, because the Amorites lived in the land of Canaan. Abraham was the son of Terah, who was a idol maker, Abraham as a child destroyed his father's idols and chased people out of his shop. Abraham was a Hebrew, which comes from the word "Ivri," which means "to traverse." Both the Hebrews and the Phoenicians spoke a Canaanite language, which means they were of similar origin. But keep in mind that many people were nomadic, until they settled down.
If you are going to quote things, then quote it all.

Concerning his religious awakening in his father's house, the Book of Jubilees, written probably in the time of John Hyrcanus, relates (xi.) that, in order not to participate in the idolatry practised in connection with astrology by the whole house of Nahor, Abraham, when he was fourteen years of age, left his father, and prayed to God to save him from the errors of men. Abraham became an inventor of better modes of agriculture, showing the people how to save the seeds in the field from the ravens that devoured them. He then tried to persuade his father to renounce idol-worship, but Terah was afraid of the people and told him to keep silent. Finally, when Abraham met with the opposition of his brothers also, he arose one night and set fire to the house in which the idols were kept. In an attempt to save these, his brother Haran was burned to death.

HIS OWN BROTHER HARAN DIED.

Gods and goddesses were the norm of, in ancient civilizations INCLUDING ISRAEL. they still served the gods long after Abram.
Josiah and Hezekiah destroyed the sacred shrines of Abram and Jacob with his fanatical religious reform.

The one god started with Akhenaten. the Egyptian pharaoh. His god was the sun.

Abram served El Shaddai god of the mountains the Mesopotamian God.
Many people attached this god's name to their names. Samuel, Rachel, Bethuel, Daniel, and cities Bethel, and many more.
Could write so much to you but it is difficult because unknowns to you you have been brainwashed.
Where I on the other hand am free to explore and search without fear of 613 laws made by men.

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