Officials hail historic meeting between Greek and Macedonian railways

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Renewed co-operation will reduce costs, improve service and increase the number of company freight users and rail passengers.

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CANADEZOS

Scarborough, Canada

#1 Aug 1, 2013
THE BULGARIAN SLAVS OF FORMER YUGOSLAVIA ARE ENEMIES OF GREECE!THEY CAN NOT BE TRUSTED!THEY WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE RAILWAY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM BY TRYING TO FORM ORGANIZED REBELLIOUS AUTONOMY GROUPS AGAINST THE GREEK STATE!==>>THEY MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO SET FOOT ON HELLENIC SOIL!
Generalzod

Neutral Bay, Australia

#2 Aug 2, 2013
Keep the bastards in the stone age...

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#3 Aug 2, 2013
Lets not forget that Macedonians have named after Greek names ALL the cities they built or renamed.

As if they knew that, 2500 years later, a bunch of “Macedonian”(that is SlavoSkopian) MALAKES would argue about their doubtless Greekness.

MALAKES !!
FILIP II REINCARNATED

Rome, Italy

#4 Aug 2, 2013
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA... Again and again, two diferent things!

Fake "Greex" cannot be Macedonian in the same time - there's already Macedonia and Macedonian, and it's not "Greex".
Generalzod

Neutral Bay, Australia

#6 Aug 2, 2013
FILIP II REINCARNATED wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA... Again and again, two diferent things!
Fake "Greex" cannot be Macedonian in the same time - there's already Macedonia and Macedonian, and it's not "Greex".
Everyone knows that your not the true Macedonia here is what the Canadians say must hurt your pathetic soul to read it::::

http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/05/10/yours...
FILIP II REINCARNATED

Rome, Italy

#7 Aug 2, 2013
Generalzod

Neutral Bay, Australia

#8 Aug 2, 2013
FILIP II REINCARNATED wrote:
http://www.nba.com/hawks/roste r/2013
MACEDONIA TIMELESS
Who farken cares your not the real Macedonia you box heads even the Canadians know this.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#9 Aug 2, 2013
FILIP II REINCARNATED wrote:
http://www.nba.com/hawks/roste r/2013
MACEDONIA TIMELESS
Not a GREEK ,not a MACEDONIAN?
Not a GREEK,not an Athenian.
Not a GREEK,not a Spartan.
Not a GREEK,not a Theban,
Not a GREEK,not a Peloponisian.
"I am sending YOU these spoils to(ATHENS)from all the GREEKS,apart from Spartans."
ALEXANDER THE GREAT.

FYROM POPULATION ARE SOUTH BULGARIAN SLAVS.
FYROM IS A SLAVIC STATE.
ANCIENT MACEDON WAS A GREEK KINGDOM,NOT A SLAVIC ONE.
FILIP II REINCARNATED

Rome, Italy

#10 Aug 2, 2013
Philotas wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a GREEK ,not a MACEDONIAN?
Not a GREEK,not an Athenian.
Not a GREEK,not a Spartan.
Not a GREEK,not a Theban,
Not a GREEK,not a Peloponisian.
"I am sending YOU these spoils to(ATHENS)from all the GREEKS,apart from Spartans."
ALEXANDER THE GREAT.
FYROM POPULATION ARE SOUTH BULGARIAN SLAVS.
FYROM IS A SLAVIC STATE.
ANCIENT MACEDON WAS A GREEK KINGDOM,NOT A SLAVIC ONE.
IGNORANCE AND INFERIORITZ CAN BE FOUGHT

"...Finally, two points of terminology. I use the word 'Hellenistic' for no better reason other than out of the force of acquired habit, but of course the word and the concept are MODERN INVENTIONS that were UNKNOWN TO  THE ANCIENT WORLD. 
The continued use of the word perpetuates MISLEADING ASSUMPTIONS, and there is a serious case for avoiding it altogether, though the impracticality of this is obvious..."
(M. M. Austin "Hellenistic Kings, War, and the  Economy", The Classical  Quarterly New Series, Vol.36, No.2 (1986), p. 450. Published by: Cambridge University Press)
http://www.jstor.org/pss/639286

"We are now able to say, with some certainty that the 'Greex' were, empirically, WRONG: this ancient model of continuity between the 'heroic age' and the present day IS NOT a true historical chronology, but a 'chronology of desire'."

'The Birth of Classical Europe: A History from Ilion to Augustine' by Simon Price,Peter Thonemann.
http://books.google.it/bookshl=it&id=3pUt...

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#11 Aug 2, 2013
Filipako, my dear, read the telegram of your hero.
FILIP II REINCARNATED

Rome, Italy

#12 Aug 2, 2013
Istor wrote:
Filipako, my dear, read the telegram of your hero.
?

Are you infront of the mirror again? Trying to convince yourself of being something else...

“Macedonian, therefore Greek”

Since: Apr 07

Lychnidos, occupied Macedonia

#13 Aug 2, 2013
FILIP II REINCARNATED wrote:
<quoted text>?
Are you infront of the mirror again? Trying to convince yourself of being something else...
No. Usually I read telegrams without any mirror:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/T3...

hahahahaha
MALAKA !!
Sophia

Skopje, Macedonia

#14 Aug 2, 2013
FILIP II REINCARNATED

Rome, Italy

#15 Aug 2, 2013
Biatch Slap A Skop

Toronto, Canada

#16 Aug 2, 2013
I must agree with you, Goran, wholeheartedly. Ignorance can be overcome, however this may be more difficult for those who suffer insanity and fighting delusions. Very much like your ignorant family.

Now, you may quote all the silliness you want, next time make sure that you research Cambridge Univ. and it's historical faculty before posting and making yourself look even more ignorant or in your cae just plain "inane". Cambridge's history faculty is part of those who think your family is completely insane and delusional. READ A BIT before posting.

Research your info Goran, research your info.
FILIP II REINCARNATED wrote:
<quoted text>IGNORANCE AND INFERIORITZ CAN BE FOUGHT
"...Finally, two points of terminology. I use the word 'Hellenistic' for no better reason other than out of the force of acquired habit, but of course the word and the concept are MODERN INVENTIONS that were UNKNOWN TO  THE ANCIENT WORLD. 
The continued use of the word perpetuates MISLEADING ASSUMPTIONS, and there is a serious case for avoiding it altogether, though the impracticality of this is obvious..."
(M. M. Austin "Hellenistic Kings, War, and the  Economy", The Classical  Quarterly New Series, Vol.36, No.2 (1986), p. 450. Published by: Cambridge University Press)
http://www.jstor.org/pss/639286
"We are now able to say, with some certainty that the 'Greex' were, empirically, WRONG: this ancient model of continuity between the 'heroic age' and the present day IS NOT a true historical chronology, but a 'chronology of desire'."
'The Birth of Classical Europe: A History from Ilion to Augustine' by Simon Price,Peter Thonemann.
http://books.google.it/bookshl=it&id=3pUt...

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#17 Aug 3, 2013
FILIP II REINCARNATED wrote:
<quoted text>IGNORANCE AND INFERIORITZ CAN BE FOUGHT
"...Finally, two points of terminology. I use the word 'Hellenistic' for no better reason other than out of the force of acquired habit, but of course the word and the concept are MODERN INVENTIONS that were UNKNOWN TO  THE ANCIENT WORLD. 
The continued use of the word perpetuates MISLEADING ASSUMPTIONS, and there is a serious case for avoiding it altogether, though the impracticality of this is obvious..."
(M. M. Austin "Hellenistic Kings, War, and the  Economy", The Classical  Quarterly New Series, Vol.36, No.2 (1986), p. 450. Published by: Cambridge University Press)
http://www.jstor.org/pss/639286
"We are now able to say, with some certainty that the 'Greex' were, empirically, WRONG: this ancient model of continuity between the 'heroic age' and the present day IS NOT a true historical chronology, but =false
fyromonkey,go and jump,from the GREEK Alexander's the great statue in Scopia.
Clowns.
Bulgarians by God.
Fake Macedonians by Tito.
Undisputed facts about Fyrom population been of Bulgarian ORIGIN.
HERE IS HE PROOF.
Related ethnic groups[edit source | editbeta]
Three Bulgarian women of Thrace, of Shopluk and of Macedonia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Thrace_Shop...
However til the early 20th century, ethnic Macedonians, Torlaks and Slavic-speakers of Greek Macedonia usually self-identified as BULGARIANS.
Bulgarians are considered most closely related to the neighboring Macedonians; indeed it is sometimes said there is no discernible ethnic difference between them.[38] The ethnic Macedonians were considered Macedonian Bulgarians by most ethnographers until the early 20th century and beyond with a big portion of them evidently self-identifying as such.[84][85] The Slavic-speakers of Greek Macedonia and most among the Torlaks in Serbia have also had a history of identifying as Bulgarians and many were members of the Bulgarian Exarchate, which included most of the territory regarded as Torlak. The greater part of these people were also considered Bulgarians by most ethnographers until the early 20th century and beyond.[86][87][88][89]
REFERNCES:
^ The struggle for Greece, 1941–1949, Christopher Montague Woodhouse, C. Hurst & Co. Publishers, 2002, ISBN 1-85065-492-1, p. 67. Books.google.bg. Retrieved 2011-11-13.
^ Who are the Macedonians? Hugh Poulton. C. Hurst & Co. Publishers, 1995, ISBN 1-85065-238-4,p. 109.
^ Felix Philipp Kanitz,(Das Konigreich Serbien und das Serbenvolk von der Romerzeit bis dur Gegenwart, 1904, in two volume)# "In this time (1872) they (the inhabitants of Pirot) did not presume that six years later the often damn Turkish rule in their town will be finished, and at least they did not presume that they will be include in Serbia, because they always feel that they are Bulgarians. ;, 1986, p. 215)"And today (in the end of the 19th century) among the older generation there are many fondness to Bulgarians, that it led him to collision with Serbian government. Some hesitation can 1076; 1986, c. 218; Serbia – its land and inhabitants, Belgrade 1986, p. 218)
^ Jérôme-Adolphe Blanqui,„Voyage en Bulgarie pendant l'année 1841" It describes a population in Nish sandjak as Bulgarian, see:[2]

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#18 Aug 3, 2013
History[edit source | editbeta]

The Slavic speaking majority in the Region of Macedonia had been referred to (both, by themselves and outsiders) as BULGARIANS and that is how they were predominantly seen since 10th,[8][9][10] up until the early 20th century.[11] According to Encyclopædia Britannica, at the beginning of the 20th century the Macedonian Bulgarians constituted the majority of the population in the whole region of Macedonia, then part of the Ottoman Empire.[12] The functioning of the Bulgarian Exarchate then aimed specifically at differentiating the Bulgarian from the Greek and Serbian populations on an ethnic and linguistic basis, providing the open assertion of a Bulgarian national identity.[13] However one basic distinction between the political agendas of local intelligentsias was clear. The Macedonian Greeks and Serbs followed, in general, the directives coming from their respective centers of national agitation, while by the Bulgarians the term Macedonian was acquiring the significance of a certain political loyalty, that progressively constructed a particular spirit of regional identity.[14] The Balkan Wars (1912–1913) and World War I (1914–1918) left Ottoman Macedonia divided between Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, and Albania and resulted in significant changes in its ethnic composition. The immediate effect of the partition of Ottoman Macedonia were the nationalistic campaigns in areas under Serbian and Greek administration, which expelled Bulgarian churchmen and teachers and closed Bulgarian schools and churches. As a consequence a sizable part of the Slavic population of Greek and Serbian Macedonia fled to Bulgaria or was resettled there by virtue of a population exchange agreements. The Bulgarian population in Vardar Banovina was regarded as "Southern Serbs" and a policy of Serbianization was implemented. Within Greece, the Southern Macedonians were designated "Slavophone Greeks".[15]
YES FYROM POULATION ARE BULGARIANS

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#19 Aug 3, 2013
READ AND LAUGH!!!

THE "MACEDONIAN"LANGUAGE

The main ideas of the protocols are as follows (quoting the Macedonian members on the commissions):


- "We, the Macedonians, who have never had a literature of our own so far, have no definite common literary language".

- The Republic of Macedonia appeared "due to the efforts of the Communist Party", "due to the efforts of the troops of our far-sighted and dearest Marshall Tito".

- The people are "still to assert themselves as a nation", taking into account "the interests of the Federative and Democratic Yugoslavia".

- "We have no time to wait for that language to be created. We are facing the issue of having a literary language of our own, yet we have not the time to wait for this language to be created by poets, men of letters and journalists".

- "We have no time to wait for some of our dialects to develop into a literary language".

- "Our teachers would have finished the fifth or the sixth grade of school. Education with insufficiently qualified teachers world be very difficult".

- "The word goes about pedagogy and students. However, the same applied to adults. Those people will never learn the language rules".

- "We should therefore set the basics of our orthography by establishing a Macedonian alphabet and a Macedonian literary language"; "These literary materials are to be completed by certain political circumstances which are also influential in the Macedonian language dispute "; "We should be careful about our actions"; "it is better to make a grammar mistake than to make a political one"; The same applies to the letters of the Serbian alphabet; "It would be no use to maintain the differences between ourselves and the Serbs through the alphabet".

- The language of our people "has not been completely formed yet"; "If the Bulgarians have a look at the Serbian letters, they would say:'Those people have turned Serbs"; "the editor of "Bregalnishki Glas" newspaper (a publication of the SRM at that time) acts as if in a shock upon hearing of Serbian letters. On the other hand, we shall be having troubles with the Federation of Yugoslavia. Therefore it is necessary that we adopt the Serbian letters as soon as possible, instead of the Bulgarian ones"; "not to make our brothers in Serbia and Croatia angry"; "it may be possible that we find out something in-between, although not quite scientifically grounded, but well-tempered and of practical use"; "I am afraid that we might make a mistake which would cause people laugh at us".

The confessions testify that the literary language in Skopje was conjured up in a haste, that it is far from being natural - like most languages throughout the world - and that it is not the result of centuries-long continuing historical development (which is the most typical feature of any normal language formation). It does not rest on any non-Bulgarian literature to serve as its basis (poetry, fiction, journalism), and has no definite dialect basis on which to develop (so far there was a misconception that at least such a basis existed), therefore the fabricated rules could never be learned for they have no scientific foundation to lie on.

The most important goal in fabricating that "language" (or rather "a political language") consisted mainly in serving the purposes of the Yugoslav Federation, and the Serbs in particular, by its gradual conversion to the Serbian language. That is all the product of the Communist Party and the Marshall Tito's troops who was no to be angered in order to prevent troubles. Consequently, the so-called Macedonian literary language is a partially destructured literary Bulgarian language.
REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA

Quakers Hill, Australia

#20 Aug 3, 2013
="Philotas--SHIT MALAKES SKATA"]<quoted text>
Not a GAYREEK ,not a MACEDONIAN?
yes a GAYREEK,ARE AFRICAN [ETHIOPIAN].
yes a GAYREEK,not a Spartan.
yes a GAYREEK,not a Theban,
yes a GAYREEK,not a Peloponisian.
"I am sending YOU these spoils to(ATHENS)from all the GAYREEKS,apart from Spartans."YOU ALL MALAKES DO NOT BELONG OF MACEDONIAN BLOOD;;BUT AFRICAN [ ETHIOPIAN APE BLOOD]] CORECT''100%=========
ALEXANDER THE GREAT. WAS MACEDONIAN RULER AND ALWAYS MACEDONIAN KING ;;;;;;BUT NEVER GAYREEK'ETHIOPIAN APE''
ANCIENT MACEDON WAS A KINGDOM,FOR ALL MACEDONIANS INCLUDED REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIAN LAND IN THIS DAYS ALL WAY TO SOLUN....LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA;;;F--- ALL GAYREEKS MALAKES;;EMPTY HEADS BABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS'''BACK IN ZOO B GO BACK IN CAGE CRAZY APES;;;;;;;BACK WHERE YOU COMEFROM;;ETHIOPIA;;;;;;
Biatch Slap A Skop

Richmond Hill, Canada

#21 Aug 3, 2013
Goran, you are simply living proof of your entire kinds existence. Just a little education could go a long way. Imagine the possibilities, you could actually have a dialogue with people instead of your ape-ish family members.

But we all know that this is a far reach for you, Goran.
REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA wrote:
="Philotas--SHIT MALAKES SKATA"]<quoted text>
Not a GAYREEK ,not a MACEDONIAN?
yes a GAYREEK,ARE AFRICAN [ETHIOPIAN].
yes a GAYREEK,not a Spartan.
yes a GAYREEK,not a Theban,
yes a GAYREEK,not a Peloponisian.
"I am sending YOU these spoils to(ATHENS)from all the GAYREEKS,apart from Spartans."YOU ALL MALAKES DO NOT BELONG OF MACEDONIAN BLOOD;;BUT AFRICAN [ ETHIOPIAN APE BLOOD]] CORECT''100%=========
ALEXANDER THE GREAT. WAS MACEDONIAN RULER AND ALWAYS MACEDONIAN KING ;;;;;;BUT NEVER GAYREEK'ETHIOPIAN APE''
ANCIENT MACEDON WAS A KINGDOM,FOR ALL MACEDONIANS INCLUDED REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIAN LAND IN THIS DAYS ALL WAY TO SOLUN....LONG LIVE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA;;;F--- ALL GAYREEKS MALAKES;;EMPTY HEADS BABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS'''BACK IN ZOO B GO BACK IN CAGE CRAZY APES;;;;;;;BACK WHERE YOU COMEFROM;;ETHIOPIA;;;;;;

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