What Finland can teach America about ...

What Finland can teach America about true luxury

There are 13 comments on the Christian Science Monitor story from May 1, 2009, titled What Finland can teach America about true luxury. In it, Christian Science Monitor reports that:

What is true luxury? Just when I thought I'd settled on my answer a ' a flat-screen TV the size of Kansas and a leather-upholstered car that can travel at triple the speed limit a ' I made several visits to Finland.

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carola

Alamo, CA

#1 May 3, 2009
seem like nice story.. however there is a mention of people getting depressed and using alcohol.. it makes me wonder..why in such a stress free environment, people resource to alcoholism to cope and why are they depressed???
sooooo maybe this seemingly peaceful place where everybody act,feel and get the same is nothing more than another ''pleasenville'''.they have a society that conform and provide for the whole tribe,, but where the individual spirit gets buried or control.
in America we have more fire, it's not perfect and this maybe the beauty of it.
I like America the way it is.... and if I ever want '''nice and quiet''' there are plenty of places to do it....without taking away my individuality.
Maman

New Rochelle, NY

#2 May 3, 2009
I live frugally like this - always have. Even in America, education is not a guarantee of wealth and success, so to live beyond one's means is a harbinger of debt and other stresses. I admit that substance abuse and depression do indicate that all is not Viking heaven for all Finns, or those anywhere, poor, middle class or rich. I get depressed ocasionally, have been celibate for years {spiritual and health reasons}. I do not use controlled substances, because I hate the taste of alcohol, the aroma of drugs, and mostly, the idea of not being in control of my actions. That lifestyle would be a financial drain anyway.
BUICK 59

Arvin, CA

#3 May 3, 2009
What this ignoramus doesn't see beyond
his left wing social government spin is what happens to a nation that
is taxed to death, it becomes an apathetic nation. Finland's
statistics for suicide, depression and alcoholism are some of the
highest on the planet! Who needs to enjoy one's earned wages on automobiles,
boats, planes, motorcycles and electronic toys when "you can scurry
off deep in the woods". Sure they are huddled in their
cottages....where they are drinking themselves to death and planning
how to hang themselves. Fins? Yea, I like Fins...on my freaking 59
Cadillac!
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#4 May 4, 2009
Finland is almost the only country in the world, which seems to be still a bit more normal than the rest. They consider things as luxury, which are completely unknown by other countries.
Which things?
The simple things of life!!!
The cliche of drinking suicidal persons is always the first point of view for some ignorant people.
It's NOT always correct. Finns ccan also be funny, but only if they want and only with people, they can stand. Simple pimple......
carola

Alamo, CA

#5 May 4, 2009
all those socialist countries like to put people in uniforms...with the excuse that all the wealth can be share equally ...it doesn't matter it some people work more than others...."""I don't think like like that""" since diversity in every way is more interesting.
just look at the soviet with their obsolete philosophy it didn't workkkkkkkk

America rockkkkkkkkkkks
carola

Alamo, CA

#6 May 4, 2009
Maman wrote:
I live frugally like this - always have. Even in America, education is not a guarantee of wealth and success, so to live beyond one's means is a harbinger of debt and other stresses. I admit that substance abuse and depression do indicate that all is not Viking heaven for all Finns, or those anywhere, poor, middle class or rich. I get depressed ocasionally, have been celibate for years {spiritual and health reasons}. I do not use controlled substances, because I hate the taste of alcohol, the aroma of drugs, and mostly, the idea of not being in control of my actions. That lifestyle would be a financial drain anyway.
what happened to you man.. celibate???????
what for? are you a priest??????
this will be the only good excuse for it.
a good glass of wine will make change all that negative thinking you are harboring...
you seem depressed by your own thought pattern
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#7 May 4, 2009
carola wrote:
all those socialist countries like to put people in uniforms...with the excuse that all the wealth can be share equally ...it doesn't matter it some people work more than others....
That's logical!
Heska Pavonen

Muurame, Finland

#8 May 5, 2009
BUICK 59 wrote:
Finland's
statistics for suicide, depression and alcoholism are some of the
highest on the planet!
Finnish suicide rates decline
Sharp decline in women’s suicides in recent years

While Finland has been seen as a world leader in people taking their own lives, this seems to be changing. Finland appears to have been overtaken in suicide statistics by a number of countries in the former Soviet sphere of influence, as well as Japan and China.

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Finnish+suic...
Marja

East Grinstead, UK

#9 May 5, 2009
Just to let you know Carola, the systems in Finland and Russia cannot be compared. Finland is not a socialist country in the same way as Russia and has never been. When you see the benefits that you get from paying higher taxes: free health care, kindergarten, schooling and universities, excellent public transport, cycle ways, district heating, etc, you just notice that the system works. When I was growing up in Finland , my parents earned so much that they were on the highest tax rate (around 70%) but I think it was good. I'm glad I wasn't from a filthy rich family.
I believe the suicide and alcoholism rates are more connected to the long dark winters and lack of things to do in small-towns rather than to the system itself.
f1-paddockbitch0 3

Austria

#10 May 5, 2009
Marja, you grew up in Finland? That's interesting. How was it there?
Abe

Brooklyn, NY

#11 May 10, 2009
Heska Pavonen wrote:
<quoted text>
Finnish suicide rates decline
Sharp decline in women’s suicides in recent years
While Finland has been seen as a world leader in people taking their own lives, this seems to be changing. Finland appears to have been overtaken in suicide statistics by a number of countries in the former Soviet sphere of influence, as well as Japan and China.
http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Finnish+suic...
I can see why Finns would want to take their own lives. Just look at all the Fishbrained crap the blogger who calls himself "Dr. Phil is Lukashenko" writes.

He goes on all the forums like the Russia forum, Poland forum, Germany forum, Serbia forum attacking everyone who isn't Finnish. I guess if I was Finnish I would have a huge inferiority complex like this idiot Finn.
Sharkfinn

Bothell, WA

#12 May 16, 2009
All the Finns need is more Vitamin D and they would have the perfect life.
Question

Helsinki, Finland

#13 May 16, 2009
Vitamin D like distant depressed drunk?

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