Opinion: Scotland isn't ready for ind...

Opinion: Scotland isn't ready for independence

There are 53 comments on the Star Tribune story from Feb 14, 2013, titled Opinion: Scotland isn't ready for independence. In it, Star Tribune reports that:

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“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#1 Feb 15, 2013
If UK not join eurozone, and if eurozone not become common State as USA, and if UK continuing to have monarchy and to live in 15 century, UK will loose Scottland, North Ireland, and the most of colonies.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#2 Feb 15, 2013
you use the phrase common state for eurozone. it's nazi not common, nazi state.

“The Three Legged Man”

Since: Jul 11

Loughborough, UK

#3 Feb 15, 2013
european2012 wrote:
If UK not join eurozone, and if eurozone not become common State as USA, and if UK continuing to have monarchy and to live in 15 century, UK will loose Scottland, North Ireland, and the most of colonies.
Scotland will do whatever the Scottish people decide on.

And when the rest of the UK get a referendum on the EU, you can kiss goodbye to your hopes of getting a slice of our cake, you covetous, socialist beggar.

You know where you can shove your Eurozone.
So funny

Edinburgh, UK

#4 Feb 15, 2013
Its really odd how on one hand the torys want out of europe, so that the uk can decide its own policies, yet say scotland should not have the same right. based on opposing theories. All unions are equal, some unions are more equal that others!

“The Three Legged Man”

Since: Jul 11

Loughborough, UK

#5 Feb 15, 2013
So funny wrote:
Its really odd how on one hand the torys want out of europe, so that the uk can decide its own policies, yet say scotland should not have the same right. based on opposing theories. All unions are equal, some unions are more equal that others!
A lot of Tories want to get out of Europe, but it's not the party's official policy.

Most want Scotland to stay in the UK, but I haven't heard anybody say that Scotland should not have the right to decide its own future.

Hoody Hugging Dave has said he'll argue the case for keeping the UK together, but in the end, the decision has to be yours.
Krypteia

Brighton, UK

#6 Feb 15, 2013
I want a referendum and a vote on breaking away from Scotland so we can have our own English assembly/parliament
Claus D kuerten

Farnell, UK

#7 Feb 15, 2013
european2012 wrote:
If UK not join eurozone, and if eurozone not become common State as USA, and if UK continuing to have monarchy and to live in 15 century, UK will loose Scottland, North Ireland, and the most of colonies.
UK do not have any colonies to lose.
There are British Overseas Territories by choice of the people who reside within them.

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#8 Feb 16, 2013
Mr Tripod wrote:
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Scotland will do whatever the Scottish people decide on.
And when the rest of the UK get a referendum on the EU, you can kiss goodbye to your hopes of getting a slice of our cake, you covetous, socialist beggar.
You know where you can shove your Eurozone.
1.If UK dissolve and go out from eu, will go out from G8, and will be a small no-powerful country.

2."socialist"? I support Liberals en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats

“The Three Legged Man”

Since: Jul 11

Loughborough, UK

#9 Feb 16, 2013
european2012 wrote:
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1.If UK dissolve and go out from eu, will go out from G8, and will be a small no-powerful country.
2."socialist"? I support Liberals en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats
The only thing you support is sitting on your arse whilst money from more advanced people gets shovelled towards you.

You're a parasite, arguing for parasite politics.

Go f*ck yourself, to put it bluntly.
Claus D keurten

Montrose, UK

#10 Feb 17, 2013
european2012 wrote:
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1.If UK dissolve and go out from eu, will go out from G8, and will be a small no-powerful country.
2."socialist"? I support Liberals en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats
Being a member of the G8 has nothing to do with being in the EU. The G8 is based on the 8 most advanced economies. The UK is a leading member of the commonwealth which represents a substantial amount of the worlds population (unlike a small percentage that the EU member states make up).
If you are going to argue the benefits of EU membership then you must stop misrepresenting the disadvantages that membership brings.
EU propaganda can always be easily dismissed. It is based on instilling fear upon the less savvy of politics.

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

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#11 Feb 18, 2013
Commonwealth is nothing, and will dissolve. Is outdated, same as USSR.

If UK is anti-EU and anti-democrat, will dissolve, and will become one small country as Ireland. But Ireland will be more powerful because will be in eu.
Krypteia

Brighton, UK

#12 Feb 18, 2013
european2012 wrote:
Commonwealth is nothing, and will dissolve. Is outdated, same as USSR.
If UK is anti-EU and anti-democrat, will dissolve, and will become one small country as Ireland. But Ireland will be more powerful because will be in eu.
At least we won't have to put up with mindless drones like you,,christ i don't know whats worse fecking Muslims or fecking treacherous fascist Euro shite like you,As for Europe you can shove it where the sun don't shine it can fecking sink beneath the waves for all I care.The last thing I would ever call myself is a poxy European..

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#13 Feb 18, 2013
Bad time for the SNP to call for a referendum, same as Sinn Fein trying for one in NI. Too much financial uncertainty at the moment. Also the Scots have to consider the upcoming EU referendum. If the Scots vote for independence and then the UK opts out of the EU a few years later then the Scots will be left within the EU with a non-EU state on the border. Not an ideal situation. Although it could also work in their favour.
Claus D keurten

Cross, UK

#14 Feb 18, 2013
european2012 wrote:
Commonwealth is nothing, and will dissolve. Is outdated, same as USSR.
If UK is anti-EU and anti-democrat, will dissolve, and will become one small country as Ireland. But Ireland will be more powerful because will be in eu.
Again, your arguments hold no water. The UK is a nuclear power, hardly an insignificant little country on the world stage. Britain is a major member of the Commonwealth with an estimated population of 2.5 billion people residing in 54 separate states all with a shared history and huge economies.
The EU has 27 factions with an estimated population of half a billion people with economies fast approaching Zimbabwe.(See: Greece, Spain, R.O.I, Hungary, Buda... et al).
Ireland is bankrupt and has been bailed out by the taxpayers of the UK. Again, how can Ireland be more powerful when they are reliant on the UK stepping in to stop their country going down the tubes?

If this is the best propaganda the undemocratic fascist EU proletariats can come up with then its a resounding fail.

Adios EU membership. Roll on 2017.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#15 Feb 18, 2013
Claus D keurten wrote:
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Again, your arguments hold no water. The UK is a nuclear power, hardly an insignificant little country on the world stage. Britain is a major member of the Commonwealth with an estimated population of 2.5 billion people residing in 54 separate states all with a shared history and huge economies.
The EU has 27 factions with an estimated population of half a billion people with economies fast approaching Zimbabwe.(See: Greece, Spain, R.O.I, Hungary, Buda... et al).
Ireland is bankrupt and has been bailed out by the taxpayers of the UK. Again, how can Ireland be more powerful when they are reliant on the UK stepping in to stop their country going down the tubes?
If this is the best propaganda the undemocratic fascist EU proletariats can come up with then its a resounding fail.
Adios EU membership. Roll on 2017.
The Commonwealth is full of third world countries. Not comparable to the EU, at least every EU country has the basics, like you know? Food, water, toilet etc......

Who in Ireland did the taxpayers of the UK ''bail out''? Who? Oh 8 billion went towards a private bank based in Ireland in order to pay that money back to UK banks.

Its actually quite funny for me to see how detached from reality some in Britain are. You seriously think the Commonwealth of (mostly third world) Nations has a patch on the European Union? Or that the UK taxpayers ''stopped Ireland going down the tubes''?

Do they keep you stupid, or was it a choice?
Claus D keurten

Cross, UK

#16 Feb 18, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
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The Commonwealth is full of third world countries. Not comparable to the EU, at least every EU country has the basics, like you know? Food, water, toilet etc......
Who in Ireland did the taxpayers of the UK ''bail out''? Who? Oh 8 billion went towards a private bank based in Ireland in order to pay that money back to UK banks.
Its actually quite funny for me to see how detached from reality some in Britain are. You seriously think the Commonwealth of (mostly third world) Nations has a patch on the European Union? Or that the UK taxpayers ''stopped Ireland going down the tubes''?
Do they keep you stupid, or was it a choice?
Good attempt from a bogtrodder but no banana.
All those third world countries like:
Australia pop 22 Million, GDP 1.5 Trillion $
Canada pop 33 Million, GDP 1.8 Trillion $
India pop 1.2 Billion, GDP 1.8 Trillion $
NZ pop 4.5 Million, GDP 161 Billion $
Pakistan pop 180 Million, GDP 210 Billion $
Nigeria pop 170 Million, GDP 240 Billion $

Just a small sample. I wouldn't want to overload your tiny inbred little brain.
Its understandable why the bogtrodders are out in force to defend a corrupt EU. The begging bowl of Ireland is a permanent feature on the EU gravy train.

Keeping myself stupid... hail the EU... or is it heil?
rio

Bromley, UK

#17 Feb 18, 2013
Dubbadub wrote:
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The Commonwealth is full of third world countries. Not comparable to the EU, at least every EU country has the basics, like you know? Food, water, toilet etc......
Who in Ireland did the taxpayers of the UK ''bail out''? Who? Oh 8 billion went towards a private bank based in Ireland in order to pay that money back to UK banks.
Its actually quite funny for me to see how detached from reality some in Britain are. You seriously think the Commonwealth of (mostly third world) Nations has a patch on the European Union? Or that the UK taxpayers ''stopped Ireland going down the tubes''?
Do they keep you stupid, or was it a choice?
Well,the Commonweaklth is also Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, etc... not exactly poor countries. Australia and Canada suffer from lack of population to tap their underground resoources; fuel in Canada, minerals in Australia. Those are countries to stay close to!!

Just India is predicted to become a large economic power, not far behind the US or China. It's hardly a Third World country, even if there is still mass poverty there. India alone will dwarf the whole of Europe by the end of this century.

It's Europe which is in decline, not overseas countries.
The Celtic Tiger

Loughborough, UK

#18 Feb 18, 2013
Anyone got any spare change?

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#19 Feb 18, 2013
Claus D keurten wrote:
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Good attempt from a bogtrodder but no banana.
All those third world countries like:
Australia pop 22 Million, GDP 1.5 Trillion $
Canada pop 33 Million, GDP 1.8 Trillion $
India pop 1.2 Billion, GDP 1.8 Trillion $
NZ pop 4.5 Million, GDP 161 Billion $
Pakistan pop 180 Million, GDP 210 Billion $
Nigeria pop 170 Million, GDP 240 Billion $
Just a small sample. I wouldn't want to overload your tiny inbred little brain.
Its understandable why the bogtrodders are out in force to defend a corrupt EU. The begging bowl of Ireland is a permanent feature on the EU gravy train.
Keeping myself stupid... hail the EU... or is it heil?
India mass poverty. Nigeria mass poverty. Pakistan need I start? Lets name some of the other impoverished ''Commonwealth'' nations like Ghana, Cameroon, Bangladesh, Malawi, Kenya, Namibia, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda, Sri Lanka, Sierra Leone etc etc I could go on all day pretty much every Commonwealth nation is impoverished in many ways living on under £3 a day and thats a very fair estimate many are worse off than that. The Commonwealth stands today as a reminder of what a failure the British Empire really was.

You gave me a sample of Canada, Australia and New Zealand that fair enough are developed countries making up a combined population of almost 60 million, thats really feck all compared to the overall population the the Commonwealth and then you gave me examples of poverty stricken nations like Nigeria and India where masses of people live well below the poverty line and don't have access to basic essentials such as clean water among other things. Name me some EU countries where the people earn under £3 a day like the majority of Commonwealth nations? Well? Name me one?

Oh I'm not out in force to defend the EU, I'm merely bringing it home to you that the EU despite its faults is a Rolls Royce in comparison to the Commonwealth which is a mule with a cart.

What gravy train were the UK on to make it one of the most indebted countries on earth? Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.....

Oh I can handle a bigger sample too, give me more Commonwealth success stories, cheers for mentioning Nigeria and India you did a lot of my work for me with that one.....

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#20 Feb 18, 2013
rio wrote:
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Well,the Commonweaklth is also Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, etc... not exactly poor countries. Australia and Canada suffer from lack of population to tap their underground resoources; fuel in Canada, minerals in Australia. Those are countries to stay close to!!
Just India is predicted to become a large economic power, not far behind the US or China. It's hardly a Third World country, even if there is still mass poverty there. India alone will dwarf the whole of Europe by the end of this century.
It's Europe which is in decline, not overseas countries.
India will be a superpower, but currently there is no getting away from the fact that hundreds of millions there live in appauling conditions. If people want to go it alone fair enough thats their opinion, I'm not a big fan of the EU myself, but for people to try to mention the Commonwealth as some type of alternative is laughable really.

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