Filipinos pack capital for Catholic p...

Filipinos pack capital for Catholic procession

There are 261 comments on the The State story from Jan 9, 2013, titled Filipinos pack capital for Catholic procession. In it, The State reports that:

Hundreds of thousands of mostly barefoot Roman Catholic devotees joined a raucous procession through the streets of the Philippine capital Wednesday in an annual ritual to demonstrate faith and seek miracle cures for illnesses and a good life.

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ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#202 Apr 7, 2013
Ozzy wrote:
Isnt every day one day closer to the last day? bwahahaha...such INC garbage and vomit!
Ozzy,

Correct!!! Judment Day is coming very close but still no one knows when it will come except God:

"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt.24:36, NIV)

So, your departure from the Roman Catholic Church is now in order because Pope Sylvester II lied about a coming Doomsday on January 1, 1000 A.D. to increase the "cash on hand" of the Vatican!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
nyg

Toronto, Canada

#203 Apr 7, 2013
Can you refer to something more recent in history?

Like the mandatory 15% tithes from every INC(m) member that goes along with your Iglesia Ni Manalo church, that really goes to the billionaire Manalo clan.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Ozzy,
Correct!!! Judment Day is coming very close but still no one knows when it will come except God:
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt.24:36, NIV)
So, your departure from the Roman Catholic Church is now in order because Pope Sylvester II lied about a coming Doomsday on January 1, 1000 A.D. to increase the "cash on hand" of the Vatican!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#204 Apr 7, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
All of those words and you still cannot answer the question - how long are 'these last days'? So far, the INC has fooled stooges into believing that it is longer than their lifetimes. LOL!
The Lamsa verse disagrees with every other translation, by the way.
<quoted text>
Cretin Atheist,

I already answered you that no one knows about the exact date of Judgment Day except God:

"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36, NIV)

Hen >>>> Check!!! Improve your English comprehension, low I.Q., and pedigrees for of all atheists, you have the lowest!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#205 Apr 7, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
Bwahahahahahahahahaha! How many times have you written that the Roman Catholic Church believes in a Trinity that they cannot explain but then you just did the same thing now? Too funny!
The Iglesia ni Culto threatens their fools into compliance with an empty promise.
<quoted text>
That means the INC has a lot in common with them.
Did you know the Jehovah's Witnesses, as they have been known since 1931, reports worldwide membership of over 7.78 million adherents involved in evangelism, convention attendance of over 12 million and annual Memorial attendance of over 19 million? Your cult had a decade plus jump on them and they are still larger. Hmmmm?
<quoted text>
Your cult has lost even more. Until you can provide an accurate accounting, you cannot disagree. As your cult refuses to divulge how poorly they are doing, you will remain my bitch.
Nice try.
Cretin Atheist,

"Independent churches have sprung into vigorous life in many, if not all, countries in the Third World. One of the largest, wealthiest, and most powerful of these is the rapidly growing Iglesia Ni Cristo in the Philippines ... And it has grown by leaps and bounds to a place where it now rivals in size the entire Protestant community in the Philippines."

Reference:(Iglesia Ni Cristo: A Study in Independent Church Dynamics, Quezon City, Philippines: Conservative Baptist Publishing, Inc. 1976, p.vii)

The same Baptist author further stressed in his book that:
"On the world-wide scene its significance is great, primarily because of its size and wealth. The Iglesia Ni Cristo is the largest [non-mission related] independent church in Asia."

Reference:(Iglesia Ni Cristo: A Study in Independent Church Dynamics, Quezon City, Philippines: Conservative Baptist Publishing, Inc. 1976, p.244)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
lol

San Francisco, CA

#206 Apr 7, 2013
Titus 1:2
"a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time"
nyg

Toronto, Canada

#207 Apr 7, 2013
Again you quote books from 1976, far from the reality of right now. lol

"Roman Catholics, the largest religious group, comprise 80 to 85 percent of the total population. El Shaddai, a local charismatic lay movement affiliated with the Catholic Church, claims a domestic membership of six million.

Islam is the largest minority religion. The most recent census, conducted in 2000, estimated the Muslim population between five and nine percent of the total population. Muslims reside principally on Mindanao and nearby islands. Most belong to the Sunni branch of Islam. A very small number of Shi'a believers live in the provinces of Lanao del Sur and Zamboanga del Sur on Mindanao.

Groups that constitute less than five percent of the population include a number of Christian denominations such as Seventh-day Adventists, United Church of Christ, United Methodist, the Episcopal Church in the Philippines, Assemblies of God, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), and Philippine (Southern) Baptists. In addition three churches are established by local religious leaders: the Philippine Independent Church or "Aglipayan," the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ), and the Ang Dating Daan (an offshoot of Iglesia ni Cristo)"

Excerpt from the U.S. State Department (2007)- http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2007/90151...

Ahah funny. Ang Dating Daan an offshoot of Iglesia Ni Cristo. Same shit different pile.
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Cretin Atheist,
"Independent churches have sprung into vigorous life in many, if not all, countries in the Third World. One of the largest, wealthiest, and most powerful of these is the rapidly growing Iglesia Ni Cristo in the Philippines ... And it has grown by leaps and bounds to a place where it now rivals in size the entire Protestant community in the Philippines."
Reference:(Iglesia Ni Cristo: A Study in Independent Church Dynamics, Quezon City, Philippines: Conservative Baptist Publishing, Inc. 1976, p.vii)
The same Baptist author further stressed in his book that:
"On the world-wide scene its significance is great, primarily because of its size and wealth. The Iglesia Ni Cristo is the largest [non-mission related] independent church in Asia."
Reference:(Iglesia Ni Cristo: A Study in Independent Church Dynamics, Quezon City, Philippines: Conservative Baptist Publishing, Inc. 1976, p.244)
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#208 Apr 7, 2013
LOL Ileus you are such a dumbass!

"Ozzy wrote:
Isnt every day one day closer to the last day?"

And then you respond
"Ozzy,
Correct!!! Judment Day is coming very close but still no one knows when it will come except God:"

It was a RHETORICAL question showing you how stupid you sound! And then you answer it making yourself look more stupid! BWHAHAHA

Thanks for the good laugh. And by the way, it is spelled "judgement" and not "judment" since you are a self proclaimed english expert bwahahaha

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#209 Apr 8, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Cretin Atheist,
I already answered you that no one knows about the exact date of Judgment Day except God:
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36, NIV)
That s not an answer. It is the same as the belief in the trinity - something unknown and beyond the grasp of most.

Your leader claimed to talk to God. Didn't he know that he would die before the end of days? LOL!
Hen >>>> Check!!! Improve your English comprehension, low I.Q., and pedigrees for of all atheists, you have the lowest!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Do you still live in Gam? Can you 'br adjusted'? Is your 'prdigree' from the school for the mentally challenged?

ROTFLMAO! Check mate!
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#211 Apr 22, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
Bwahahahahahahahahaha! How many times have you written that the Roman Catholic Church believes in a Trinity that they cannot explain but then you just did the same thing now? Too funny!
The Iglesia ni Culto threatens their fools into compliance with an empty promise.
<quoted text>
Cretin Atheist,

Yes, Catholicism and Protestantism cannot explain nor understand the doctrine of the Trinity!!! They also made false predictions about Judgment Day which all came to non-fulfillment!!! Only God knows when to effect the said day in order to punish mankind for their sins and save those whom He elected as His chosen people in these last days, the Iglesia ni Cristo!!!

Improve your low I.Q.!!! Revisit Bellevue!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#213 Apr 22, 2013
nyg wrote:
Again you quote books from 1976, far from the reality of right now. lol
"Roman Catholics, the largest religious group, comprise 80 to 85 percent of the total population. El Shaddai, a local charismatic lay movement affiliated with the Catholic Church, claims a domestic membership of six million.
Islam is the largest minority religion. The most recent census, conducted in 2000, estimated the Muslim population between five and nine percent of the total population. Muslims reside principally on Mindanao and nearby islands. Most belong to the Sunni branch of Islam. A very small number of Shi'a believers live in the provinces of Lanao del Sur and Zamboanga del Sur on Mindanao.
Groups that constitute less than five percent of the population include a number of Christian denominations such as Seventh-day Adventists, United Church of Christ, United Methodist, the Episcopal Church in the Philippines, Assemblies of God, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), and Philippine (Southern) Baptists. In addition three churches are established by local religious leaders: the Philippine Independent Church or "Aglipayan," the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ), and the Ang Dating Daan (an offshoot of Iglesia ni Cristo)"
Excerpt from the U.S. State Department (2007)- http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2007/90151...
Ahah funny. Ang Dating Daan an offshoot of Iglesia Ni Cristo. Same shit different pile.
<quoted text>
Nyg,

You are wrong!!! Catholics comprise only 70 percent of the Philippine population but with only 3 percent going to church for most are just belonging to this spurious religion by name!!! This non-attendance of Catholic services is one of the reasons why the it is undergoing the pain of the so-called "Great Religious Recession".

Both Protestantism and Islam have been surpassed already by the Iglesia ni Cristo in their combined memberships a long time ago!!!
Here's what Dr. Reed of the University of California, in the US, in his work published in 1990 said:

" ... the INC has been trabsformed into the most dynamic and powerful indigenous belief system in the Philippines. Growing at a phenomenal rate ... this upstart community of faith may have recently surpassed Islam as the nations's second largest religion.... Indeed the INC ... may be the most successful form of 'Indigenous Christianity emanating from the Third World in this century."

Reference:[ Reed, Robert R., ed. Patterns of Migration in Southeast Asia, Berkeley, CA: Centers for South and Southeast Asia Studies, 1990, pp. 154-155]

In 2001, Dr. Robert Reed updated on the Iglesia Ni Cristo, describing its spread and progress worldwide as "from an obscure Philippine faith to a global belief system." Its strides, even in the US, "has bee nothing less than spectacular".

Reference:(Jounal of the Humanities and School Sciences of Southeast Asia and Ocenia, 2001.)

Dr. Arthur Leonard Tuggy, a baptist preacher had this to say:

"Independent churches have sprung into vigorous life in many, if not all, countries in the Third World. One of the largest, wealthiest, and most powerful of these is the rapidly growing Iglesia Ni Cristo in the Philippines ... And it has grown by leaps and bounds to a place where it now rivals in size the entire Protestant community in the Philippines."

Reference:(Iglesia Ni Cristo: A Study in Independent Church Dynamics, Quezon City, Philippines: Conservative Baptist Publishing, Inc. 1976, p.vii)

The same Baptist author further stressed in his book that:
"On the world-wide scene its significance is great, primarily because of its size and wealth. The Iglesia Ni Cristo is the largest [non-mission related] independent church in Asia."

Reference:(Iglesia Ni Cristo: A Study in Independent Church Dynamics, Quezon City, Philippines: Conservative Baptist Publishing, Inc. 1976, p.244)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#214 Apr 22, 2013
nyg wrote:
Ahah funny. Ang Dating Daan an offshoot of Iglesia Ni Cristo. Same shit different pile.
<quoted text>
Nyg,

"Ang Dating Daan" which has splintered into two factions because of a schism arising out from the corrupt and third-sex tendencies of their leader, K.Y.J.Eli Fernando Soriano, did not come from the Iglesia ni Crsito!!! We have nothing to do with them although they are name-dropping!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#215 Apr 22, 2013
Ozzy wrote:
LOL Ileus you are such a dumbass!
"Ozzy wrote:
Isnt every day one day closer to the last day?"
And then you respond
"Ozzy,
Correct!!! Judment Day is coming very close but still no one knows when it will come except God:"
It was a RHETORICAL question showing you how stupid you sound! And then you answer it making yourself look more stupid! BWHAHAHA
Thanks for the good laugh. And by the way, it is spelled "judgement" and not "judment" since you are a self proclaimed english expert bwahahaha
Ozzy,

Your correction is wrong too!!! For the correct spelling is "Judgment"!!! Mine is due to fast typing while yours is because of your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#216 Apr 22, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
That s not an answer. It is the same as the belief in the trinity - something unknown and beyond the grasp of most.
Your leader claimed to talk to God. Didn't he know that he would die before the end of days? LOL!
<quoted text>
Do you still live in Gam? Can you 'br adjusted'? Is your 'prdigree' from the school for the mentally challenged?
ROTFLMAO! Check mate!
Cretin Atheist,

Does not the verse which I posted declare Judgment Day as beyond the predicting power of man??? Judgment Day is different from the Trinity because the latter is a gradual fabrication of the Roman Catholic Church in years 325 and 381 A.D. at the Councils of Nicaea and Constantinople!!!

Improve your low I.Q. and revisit Bellevue!!! Don't forget your herpes in your protruding lips!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#217 Apr 22, 2013
The true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) would continue to bring glory to the Almighty God by building and buying grandiose and beautiful chapels!!! For the first quarter of 2013, more than 30 were already dedicated to God:

1. Locale of San Francisco, Ecclesiastical District of Quezon South.
2. Locale of San Jose, Ecclesiastical District of Cotabato Southeast.
3. Locale of Gulod, Calatagan, Ecclesiastical District of Batangas.
4. Locale of Aguila, Ecclesiastical District of Antique.
5. Locale of Ajuy, Ecclesiastical District of Iloilo North.
6. Locale of Hinobaan, Ecclesiastical District of Negros del Sur.
7. Locale of Lipa City, Ecclesiastical District of Batangas.
8. Locale of Jomalig, Jomalig Island, Ecclesiastical District of Quezon North.
9. Locale of Talagutong, Don Marcelino, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Sur.
10. Locale of Pili, San Marcelino, Ecclesiastical District of Zambales South.
11. Locale of Camiling, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac North.
12. Locale of Sugcong, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan East.
13. Locale of Agoo, Ecclesiastical District of La Union.
14. Locale of Halimutoc, Lamut, Ifugao, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Vizcaya.
15. Locale of Bagong Silang, Ilagan, Ecclesiastical District of Isabela West.
16. Locale of Salvacion, Guimaras, Ecclesiastical District of Iloilo South.
17. Locale of Sta, Ana, Ecclesiastical District of Agusan del Norte.
18. Locale of Sablayan, Ecclesiastical District of Mindoro Occidental.
19. Locale of Manticao, Ecclesiastical District of Misamis Oriental.
20. Locale of Catbalogan, Ecclesiastical District of Samar South.
21. Locale of San Juan, Ecclesiastical District of Cagayan South.
22. Locale of Cabayawasan, Mangatarem, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan East.
23. Locale of Macrohon, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte East.
24. Locale of Ramon, Lamut, Ifugao, Ecclesiastical District of Isabela South.
25. Locale of Motiong, Ecclesiastical District of Samar South.
26. Locale of Bombon, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Sur.
27. Locale of San Isidro, Tagum City, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Norte.
28. Locale of Libacao, Ecclesiastical District of Aklan.
29. Locale of Magallanes, Ecclesiastical District of Sorsogon.
30. Locale of Talus, Malungon, Ecclesiastical District of Cotabato South.
31. Locale of Pasay, Ecclesiastical District of Metro Manila South .

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
nyg

Mississauga, Canada

#218 Apr 22, 2013
No you are wrong. the US Department of State is a far more reliable source for statistics than word of mouth from retarded INC ministers and books from 1990.

"Roman Catholics, the largest religious group, comprise 80 to 85 percent of the total population. El Shaddai, a local charismatic lay movement affiliated with the Catholic Church, claims a domestic membership of six million.
Islam is the largest minority religion. The most recent census, conducted in 2000, estimated the Muslim population between five and nine percent of the total population. Muslims reside principally on Mindanao and nearby islands. Most belong to the Sunni branch of Islam. A very small number of Shi'a believers live in the provinces of Lanao del Sur and Zamboanga del Sur on Mindanao.
Groups that constitute less than five percent of the population include a number of Christian denominations such as Seventh-day Adventists, United Church of Christ, United Methodist, the Episcopal Church in the Philippines, Assemblies of God, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), and Philippine (Southern) Baptists. In addition three churches are established by local religious leaders: the Philippine Independent Church or "Aglipayan," the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ), and the Ang Dating Daan (an offshoot of Iglesia ni Cristo)"
Excerpt from the U.S. State Department (2007)- http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2007/90151 ...
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Nyg,
You are wrong!!! Catholics comprise only 70 percent of the Philippine population but with only 3 percent going to church for most are just belonging to this spurious religion by name!!! This non-attendance of Catholic services is one of the reasons why the it is undergoing the pain of the so-called "Great Religious Recession".
Both Protestantism and Islam have been surpassed already by the Iglesia ni Cristo in their combined memberships a long time ago!!!
Here's what Dr. Reed of the University of California, in the US, in his work published in 1990 said:
" ... the INC has been trabsformed into the most dynamic and powerful indigenous belief system in the Philippines. Growing at a phenomenal rate ... this upstart community of faith may have recently surpassed Islam as the nations's second largest religion.... Indeed the INC ... may be the most successful form of 'Indigenous Christianity emanating from the Third World in this century."
Reference:[ Reed, Robert R., ed. Patterns of Migration in Southeast Asia, Berkeley, CA: Centers for South and Southeast Asia Studies, 1990, pp. 154-155]
In 2001, Dr. Robert Reed updated on the Iglesia Ni Cristo, describing its spread and progress worldwide as "from an obscure Philippine faith to a global belief system." Its strides, even in the US, "has bee nothing less than spectacular".
Reference:(Jounal of the Humanities and School Sciences of Southeast Asia and Ocenia, 2001.)
Dr. Arthur Leonard Tuggy, a baptist preacher had this to say:
"Independent churches have sprung into vigorous life in many, if not all, countries in the Third World. One of the largest, wealthiest, and most powerful of these is the rapidly growing Iglesia Ni Cristo in the Philippines ... And it has grown by leaps and bounds to a place where it now rivals in size the entire Protestant community in the Philippines."
Reference:(Iglesia Ni Cristo: A Study in Independent Church Dynamics, Quezon City, Philippines: Conservative Baptist Publishing, Inc. 1976, p.vii)
The same Baptist author further stressed in his book that:
"On the world-wide scene its significance is great, primarily because of its size and wealth. The Iglesia Ni Cristo is the largest [non-mission related] independent church in Asia."
Reference:(Iglesia Ni Cristo: A Study in Independent Church Dynamics, Quezon City, Philippines: Conservative Baptist Publishing, Inc. 1976, p.244)
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
nyg

Mississauga, Canada

#219 Apr 22, 2013
Elias loves quoting these authors to bash the Catholics and Protestants.

Remember none of them are members of your church lmao. They may disagree with mainstream Christianity but they CERTAINLY don't condone the INC.

Like I said before;
Many people leave the Catholic Church and join Protestant sect.
Many people leave a Protestant sect and join the Catholic church.
Many people leave Christianity all together and become atheist, agnostic, muslim, etc.

The vast majority that leave DO NOT JOIN iglesia ni manalo :D
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#220 Apr 22, 2013
"Your correction is wrong too!!! For the correct spelling is "Judgment"!!! Mine is due to fast typing while yours is because of your low I.Q.!!!"

Actually, it may be spelled both "judgement" and "judgment". You still did not get it right with your supposed fast typing error of "judment"

And also yet, you will chase Chauncey down with spelling/mistype post after post after post.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds! You truly are a dumbass, Ileus!

By the way,do you know why I call you "Ileus"? It is because an "ileus" is a bowel obstruction. You are so similar to an ileus because you are so full of shit all the time! Just like Felix Manalo when his bowels bursts due to the same affliction! bwahahaha!!!

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#222 Apr 22, 2013
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Cretin Atheist,
Yes, Catholicism and Protestantism cannot explain nor understand the doctrine of the Trinity!!!
Thanks for agreeing with what I just wrote. The INC does the same thing with the 'end of the world' nonsense.
They also made false predictions about Judgment Day which all came to non-fulfillment!!!
Again, thank you for agreeing that the INC utilizes the Judgment Day scam!
Only God knows when to effect the said day in order to punish mankind for their sins and save those whom He elected as His chosen people in these last days, the Iglesia ni Cristo!!!
Improve your low I.Q.!!! Revisit Bellevue!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
There it is again, only God knows. Catholics say the same thing about the Trinity.
Ciril

Cebu City, Philippines

#223 May 21, 2013
amc wrote:
god looked down and saw people trampling on each other.
he saw small children that seemed not to belong to anyone being stepped on and fighting for their lives.
he saw people getting kicked punched and beaten.
he saw 1000s pissing on each other.
he saw 1000s stealing from each other.
he saw 1000s crawling and climbing and clawing over each other just to touch a piece of black wood.
god was shocked and saddened and turned his head in shame.
i gave them minds so that they would have free will and this is what they do?
this is what it means to be filipino?
I don't think it is the fault of the ordinary guy in the street. They were brought that way since attaining the age of reason. Blame those who brought them up. The PRIESTS who are suppose to lead them into the light of REASONED belief instead turned them into a detestable FANATICS. What a WASTE!
Ciril

Cebu City, Philippines

#224 May 21, 2013
I don't think it is the fault of the ordinary guy in the street. They were brought that way since attaining the age of reason. Blame those who brought them up. The PRIESTS who are suppose to lead them into the light of REASONED belief instead turned them into a detestable FANATICS. What a WASTE!

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