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Philippine president accuses China of turning away Filipino fishing boats from disputed shoal

There are 55 comments on the The Washington Post story from Jan 26, 2013, titled Philippine president accuses China of turning away Filipino fishing boats from disputed shoal. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

Philippine President Benigno Aquino III on Saturday accused Chinese vessels of preventing Filipino fishing boats from seeking shelter at a disputed South China Sea shoal in new incidents that he said prompted his government to elevate the case to international arbitration.

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Edmonton, Canada

#45 Apr 4, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
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Yes you are absolutely right and Chinese historian have documented it. The MILESTONE created by Japan in DIAOYUTAI reads 1895 and Japan is still denying it. That is the year Taiwan was seized.
If the Japanese did not arrested those Chinese fishermen at the instigation of devil woman Hiliary Clinton and his Japanese boyfriend Japan FM Mihara then, NOTHING would have happened today. Now it has HAPPENED, China will not stop PATROLLING the island as a sign of adminsitration and sovereignty.
Notice how Japanese Coastguard boats aggressive spray the Taiwanese Patrol ship but DARE NOT to do it with the Chinese CMS patrol ships.
FEAR of CHINA Is already showing because due to this incident I discovered USA supply downgrade weapons to all her allies.
MEaning the APG63 on the Japanese F15J has shorter range and 120 km AIM120 is reduce to 95 km only. Japan F15J are sitting ducks for Chinese J10A or J11B with their 300 km detection range and now with the datalink and the 195 km PL12 missiles on them. The Japanese AEGIS is even a bigger joke. AT first I thought that they are invincible. No wonder China treats Japan as a 2nd rate power today and have PM ABE running from USA to India, Mongolia, ASEAN seeking SOS like during the warring states in ancient Chinese Histories.
No one respect Ma Ying Jeou, a Japanese brown-noser.

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#46 Apr 4, 2013
This is response to all of ur posts.

LOL shame on me? What a lame attempt to make me feel bad. I hear that crap all the time. As a westerner, that is weak. You really think Shame on you is an insult to someone like me? Hey man... I didn't insult you once. No need for you to do so unless you want me to start insulting you.

Im not concerned about Senkaku, and Im using that because its easier to type. China is the only one making a big deal about it and word spreads. And I don't give a shit about loyalty. I care about facts and logic. Loyalty is like nationalism, it only gets you so far and then it just gets stupid.

And yes... bullying is childish. Maybe you should let China know about that.

Communism and Democracy are total opposites. There is no dictatorship in a Democracy and the people have the legal ability to impeach. A dictatorship would never allow any ability to impeach.

I don't think the raping of Nanjing is a fabrication. I studied abroad in Nanjing and even went to the memorial. Don't generalize so much jerkoff. See... now you got me calling you names.

Im Taiwanese/Chinese/American. I don't have to disguise anything.

The reason Japan sprayed the Taiwanese ships is because the Chinese ships didn't cross the boundary, while the Taiwan ships did. Im sure you know that though right? The Chinese ships were told not to cross the line by their own side, although a couple did cross the line, just to reverse back again. Has nothing to do with who feared who. If China was really feeling brave, they should of gone in just like Taiwan did which was the plan. So technically, China betrayed Taiwan right?

Actually, Taiwan didn't get hit by the recession. I know that for sure. I will need to go check that out, but I know that for sure.

Ya.. well join the club. NK has their sights on the US to. Japan isn't anything special. As a matter of fact, its textbook. Everyone ends up gunning for Japan.
irony

Edmonton, Canada

#47 Apr 4, 2013
"The reason Japan sprayed the Taiwanese ships is because the Chinese ships didn't cross the boundary, while the Taiwan ships did."

The most blatant lies I ever heard.

Did you check it out to find out what the Diao Yu Tai leader (Mr. Huang) said?
lol

Hamilton, Canada

#48 Apr 4, 2013
China's CCTV Falls For April Fool's Joke, Thinks Glass-Bottomed Plane Is Real

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/chin...
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#49 Apr 4, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text> And yes... bullying is childish. Maybe you should let China know about that.

Communism and Democracy are total opposites. There is no dictatorship in a Democracy and the people have the legal ability to impeach. A dictatorship would never allow any ability to impeach.
You cannot be selective when it comes to BULLY! USA has been carrying a BIG STICK for much too long and you never complained. Did not joined ICCJ out of FEAR of prosecution for contemporary WARCRIMES in IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, etc
Communism is not equal to Democracy... Communism is an economics model and its opposite is CAPITALISM. I was just testing you your fact and logic.

Is Egypt a DEMOCRATIC country? Is Zimbabwe a DEMOCRATIC country?
Think about it before you give your answer? Why are all the NPC deputies elected at village level. Disbelieved! Ask former Democrat Prsident Billy Carter and his organisation whether it is TRUE of NOT and whether you fund the education of the villager in China in the late 1990's.

The truth is you have so MUCH TO LEARN in LIFE.

Dancing the GANGNAM style does not turn you into a Korean live horse.
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#50 Apr 4, 2013
This is in response to StarsplashTaiwan "This is response to all of ur posts".
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text> LOL shame on me? What a lame attempt to make me feel bad. I hear that crap all the time. As a westerner, that is weak. You really think Shame on you is an insult to someone like me? Hey man... I didn't insult you once. No need for you to do so unless you want me to start insulting you.
All your posts so far shown you as askew. Craps???? Did you not says "As a WESTERNER" then why are you passing yourself as a TAIWANESE national. Are you trying to mislead us into believing what you are not?
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
Im not concerned about Senkaku, and Im using that because its easier to type. China is the only one making a big deal about it and word spreads. And I don't give a shit about loyalty. I care about facts and logic. Loyalty is like nationalism, it only gets you so far and then it just gets stupid.
Really! How difficult is it to type "Diaoyutai" anyway? That is an unacceptable excuse for someone who proclaimed himself as a TAIWANESE. I never came across a Japanese in this forum who type name "Diaoyutai" for those disputed islands. This is very it is very mentally challenging for you... "And I don't give a shit about loyalty. I care about facts and logic." If this true that you should keep away as yours is NOT FACT as I will demonstrate to you in a short while. You have divided loyalty as I says but you seem to favor the FLAG with the SETTING SUN to me! With a post name like "StarsplashTaiwan", how can you run away from nationalism and politics. SO it is another one of your confused craps.
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#51 Apr 4, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
The reason Japan sprayed the Taiwanese ships is because the Chinese ships didn't cross the boundary, while the Taiwan ships did. Im sure you know that though right? The Chinese ships were told not to cross the line by their own side, although a couple did cross the line, just to reverse back again. Has nothing to do with who feared who. If China was really feeling brave, they should of gone in just like Taiwan did which was the plan. So technically, China betrayed Taiwan right?

Actually, Taiwan didn't get hit by the recession. I know that for sure. I will need to go check that out, but I know that for sure.

Ya.. well join the club. NK has their sights on the US to. Japan isn't anything special. As a matter of fact, its textbook. Everyone ends up gunning for Japan.
When pictures are splash all over the internet except those in Japan, Japanese coastguard boat dwarf by the Chinese CMS patrol vessels sailing side by side with the full view of DIAOYUTAI in sight, and you LIED for them JAPANESE, something is definitely NOT RIGHT! You sound more like a PROPAGANDIST for Japan instead of a former RED BLOODED TAIWANESE in the above.
The year is 2013 and not 1895, what can Japan do? There will be continuous and constant patrol by China CMS vessel and it is very clear that Japan coastguard are under instruction not to provoke the Chinese. JAPAN hawks are both furious and RED FACE today. They called their rational minded politicians COWARD! "Bakayarou" they are screaming!

Whether you know it or not or admit it or not, the fact remained that Taiwan almost went into a TECHNICAL RECESSION during the recent financial crisis and if not for the signing of the ECFA that pave the way for increase exchange and trade, Taiwan GDP will have hit the bottom with declining ORDERS from USA and EU.
Japan is the MIRROR today with Chinese consumer boycotting Japanese goods out of anger for Japan arrogance.
For instance China automart is a 23 million annual car sales market. The the top sellers today are Volkwagon, GM, an assortment of Chinese homegrown brands e.g. Chery, Haima, SAIC, Rowre, etc
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#52 Apr 4, 2013
lol wrote:
China's CCTV Falls For April Fool's Joke, Thinks Glass-Bottomed Plane Is Real
It goes to show CCTV is just another TV station!

Did the producer got shot in the head for that???
He/She did not, right! So what is the BIG DEAL here.

How many time did the foreign TV station goof e.g. even telecast pornographic movie that the TV staff was watching on TV.

How AMAZING!
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#53 Apr 4, 2013
Another FUNNY stories I heard last week. Japan brag to the world, we are not worried about China not supply us RARE EARTH ELEMENTS, we found plenty in the Western Pacific Sea coast under the sea.

Pragmatic Industrialists then proceed to asked Japan politicians

1 How long and when can you extracted those difficult sources?
Answer: Too long!

2. And when you finally extracted those, who is going to process the REE for you?
Answer: BLANK! Most countries including Japan will not allow the processing of REE because of the pollution and Toxicity.

3. Does Japan has the technology to process and refine the REE?
Answer: NO! So the solution is to send them to China and the problem returned to ROOT 1.

With REE, Japan auto and electronic industries( their main exports) will be severely hit and prices will raised making them uncompetitive.

See the little corner JAPAN is squeeze into and do you think she will once again BREAK OUT like during the MEIJI ERA and conquered ASIA for RESOURCES.

So JAPAN in 1930's invade another China and built an industrial bases in the North there steal her resources there to militarize her PLANNED CONQUEST and DOMINATION of ASIA and USA tolerated all these then turning her eventually against her in the PEARL HARBOR.

Will History repeated itself again with the HAWK ABE in the driver seat!!!!

Don't forget ABE father was a Japanese Imperial officer who escaped the GALLOW because he went into hiding!

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#54 Apr 4, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
All your posts so far shown you as askew. Craps???? Did you not says "As a WESTERNER" then why are you passing yourself as a TAIWANESE national. Are you trying to mislead us into believing what you are not?
I was born and raised in Taiwan and have a Taiwan passport. And I have done my military service here. I am more Taiwanese than you. You need to stop arguing about this point. Its stupid and you are only bringing this up because I don't agree with you.

Taiwan is a democratic country. I am not obligated to agree or have the same opinions as you. I am allowed to have a different opinion if I have one. Facts are indisputable, but perception can be different like the Confederate flag: some see it as a symbol of Treason, some see it as a proud southern heritage.

And I don't have to mislead you. The Chinese government does that by themselves just the same way they stubbornly believe that if they hype up the island issue causing mass anarchy on their streets (protests), that all of the sudden everything will be right again.

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#55 Apr 4, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
<quoted text>
You cannot be selective when it comes to BULLY! USA has been carrying a BIG STICK for much too long and you never complained. Did not joined ICCJ out of FEAR of prosecution for contemporary WARCRIMES in IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, etc
Communism is not equal to Democracy... Communism is an economics model and its opposite is CAPITALISM. I was just testing you your fact and logic.
Is Egypt a DEMOCRATIC country? Is Zimbabwe a DEMOCRATIC country?
Think about it before you give your answer? Why are all the NPC deputies elected at village level. Disbelieved! Ask former Democrat Prsident Billy Carter and his organisation whether it is TRUE of NOT and whether you fund the education of the villager in China in the late 1990's.
The truth is you have so MUCH TO LEARN in LIFE.
Dancing the GANGNAM style does not turn you into a Korean live horse.
The US has been carrying a big stick because it has to. Its the symbol of freedom and democracy around the globe. It has made agreements and encouraged countries around the world. Democracy is not forced on the world, but equality should. Of course it has to carry a big stick. However, with everyone gunning for the US as well, can you Blame the US.

Multiple parties and the ability for the common man to vote and that vote would be equal to everyone else is the foundation of a democracy. Zimbabwe and Egypt are Democracies. They aren't full democracies, but they are democracies nevertheless.

Since: Feb 12

Taipei, Taiwan

#56 Apr 4, 2013
It is Amazing wrote:
Really! How difficult is it to type "Diaoyutai" anyway? That is an unacceptable excuse for someone who proclaimed himself as a TAIWANESE. I never came across a Japanese in this forum who type name "Diaoyutai" for those disputed islands. This is very it is very mentally challenging for you... "And I don't give a shit about loyalty. I care about facts and logic." If this true that you should keep away as yours is NOT FACT as I will demonstrate to you in a short while. You have divided loyalty as I says but you seem to favor the FLAG with the SETTING SUN to me! With a post name like "StarsplashTaiwan", how can you run away from nationalism and politics. SO it is another one of your confused craps.
To someone as nationalistic as you, it matters. To someone like me, they both are the same thing. How about I just call it "Diaoyitai Senkaku"? So I don't have to hear you whining about how literally those two names are still referred to as the same thing but you are so nationalistic that you feel you need to force everyone to say it your way. I just call it Senkaku because I've seen that term more than Diaoyitai, and yes, Senkaku is easier to type. I mean I don't bitch at you for how you call it Diaoyitai do I? Technically, according to you, the islands should be disputed. So you should not be using Diaoyitai either because its incorrect as well. I mean, you want to play with semantics... there you go.

And yes yes, I don't agree with you and all of the sudden, Im a traitor. Blah Blah Blah. If Taiwan ever gets into a war, I will fight for Taiwan, against the US or Japan if it comes to that, just like you will fight for China.
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#57 Apr 5, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
I was born and raised in Taiwan and have a Taiwan passport. And I have done my military service here. I am more Taiwanese than you. You need to stop arguing about this point. Its stupid and you are only bringing this up because I don't agree with you.
Taiwan is a democratic country. I am not obligated to agree or have the same opinions as you. I am allowed to have a different opinion if I have one. Facts are indisputable, but perception can be different like the Confederate flag: some see it as a symbol of Treason, some see it as a proud southern heritage.
And I don't have to mislead you. The Chinese government does that by themselves just the same way they stubbornly believe that if they hype up the island issue causing mass anarchy on their streets (protests), that all of the sudden everything will be right again.
SO in another words, you admit you are merely expressing your own dissenting view.

So the next time, be careful with your words, don't give me the impression you SPEAK for the entire TAIWAN.

JUST SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
Im Taiwanese/Chinese/American. I don't have to disguise anything.
This is CONFUSING! DO you know what you are saying?
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#58 Apr 5, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
The US has been carrying a big stick because it has to. Its the symbol of freedom and democracy around the globe. It has made agreements and encouraged countries around the world. Democracy is not forced on the world, but equality should. Of course it has to carry a big stick. However, with everyone gunning for the US as well, can you Blame the US.
Multiple parties and the ability for the common man to vote and that vote would be equal to everyone else is the foundation of a democracy. Zimbabwe and Egypt are Democracies. They aren't full democracies, but they are democracies nevertheless.
Do you know what you saying? You sounded very CONFUSING with your DESCRIPTION of your version of DEMOCRACY in defending the undefendable!

So it is perfectly OK for USA to carry a BIG stick and BULLY the other nations but when it comes to an equally strong RIVAL, it is WRONG and a NO NO! Hard to believe you!!!

Now you are saying these countries are not full DEMOCRACY but Democracy nevertheless. What do you mean? And you forgot to add whether or not, China is COMMUNIST!

I hope the Taiwan Armed Forces are not as CONFUSING as you. No wonder your loyalty lies elsewhere and you still THINK you are PATRIOTIC!

That is AMAZING, isn't it?
It is Amazing

Cheras, Malaysia

#59 Apr 5, 2013
StarsplashTaiwan wrote:
<quoted text>
To someone as nationalistic as you, it matters. To someone like me, they both are the same thing. How about I just call it "Diaoyitai Senkaku"? So I don't have to hear you whining about how literally those two names are still referred to as the same thing but you are so nationalistic that you feel you need to force everyone to say it your way. I just call it Senkaku because I've seen that term more than Diaoyitai, and yes, Senkaku is easier to type. I mean I don't bitch at you for how you call it Diaoyitai do I? Technically, according to you, the islands should be disputed. So you should not be using Diaoyitai either because its incorrect as well. I mean, you want to play with semantics... there you go.
And yes yes, I don't agree with you and all of the sudden, Im a traitor. Blah Blah Blah. If Taiwan ever gets into a war, I will fight for Taiwan, against the US or Japan if it comes to that, just like you will fight for China.
Now you poke your finger at me accusing me of being nationalist when I am not even a Chinese national.

Confusing, it may sound, to a NON JAPANESE, the word Shenkaku has NO MEANING unless you are a JAPANESE or a half breed yourself.
The Diaoyutai has distinct meaning in Mandarin, Taiwanese, etc but not to the JAPANESE. To them, it is GREEK! You know you have been cornered but one should blame you for not trying, as it reflects on your integrity as a person. Do you know what I am saying?

To an outsider like me, it is disputed. But to a RED BLOODED Chinese, Taiwanese, HongKonger included, that is NO DISPUTE, it is Chinese Territory.

So for you to say such thing TANTAMOUNT to treason that is if you are still in the TAIWANESE MILITARY as you claimed! Whether you are a TRAITOR or NOT, is not for me to judge. I can also claimed I was an alien SPACEMAN and prepared to fight for planet Xyleonon! Just EMPTY AIR!

IMO your loyalty is not with your country but anyway which is your country?
Taiwan USA or Japan!

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