The President has failed us

There are 20 comments on the Jun 9, 2012, Times News story titled The President has failed us. In it, Times News reports that:

This week, I decided to list the reasons I would not vote for Barack Obama in the next election.

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#6258 Jul 26, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
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How about we cut the taxes that we pay until the government learns to spend it wisely?
Why? We have a huge debt to unwind. That's why we can't cut taxes AND why we MUST reduce program funding before interest on our debt eats us alive and we start defaulting. It will take both steep cuts and increased revenues to get the job done.
X Obama Supporter wrote:
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How about we lower the money given to programs such as the GSA? They are suppose to be making sure our money is spent wisely while they simple use it as an endless source for lavious vacations.
Lavish vacations? Well, I have no objection to reducing GSA spending. Okay with me.
X Obama Supporter wrote:
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How about we insist our government lower the number of immigrants we allow in the country until the American people can find a job, since we are pretty generous considering we allow more legal immigrants each year than all other countries combined.
How about we go back to previous immigration quotas, end chain migration and continue immigrating people who can make a valuable contribution? Otherwise, we risk losing out on the inventors, scientists, educated individuals who can help grow America.

How about we invest more in educating America's children?
X Obama Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>How about the government stop raising our tax to bail them out of their dipping into programs that are suppose to be used for certain programs like SS and using it as some kind of "daddy's credit card". To think that private business does more to the American people with their greed than our own government shows a level of either ignorance of the facts or just plain o'l oblivion far beyond the ability to accept the facts at hand or recover from your delusion.
I'm not delusional. You might be if you think you can simply yell "Stop" and make it all go away. We already DID bail them out, and we already DID create a monster debt, and handling that will not be via tax CUTS. Disavow yourself of that delusional thinking. There's no rationale whatsoever for you to get your hopes up in that regard.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Yellowknife NT

#6259 Jul 26, 2012
Aphelion wrote:
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Once again the resident socialist rears their head to decry those who were personally responsible and motivated in their lives, and claim that they are now somehow responsible to subsidize those who were less responsible and less motivated.
Although NTR claims to be a Republican it can plainly be seen that she is as liberal as the current administration and is completely indoctrinated in the welfare state of mind.
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs and were never intended for individuals to hold these positions long term or to attempt to raise a family on. If this is what an individual is attempting to do then their burden is theirs and not their fellow taxpayers. Responsible people take the steps necessary to be successful they do not wait for someone else to hand it to them nor should they.
Canít afford top notch health care on that minimum wage or part time job. This should be motivation for the responsible person to better their position in life by working towards furthering their education or skill sets so that they can advance and afford better health care. Why is it the responsibility of those who did the hard work to obtain a well paying job, to subsidize those who did not?
You are correct about one thing which is, it is no longer the good ole days, where a person could earn a living on a high school diploma. Those days have been diminishing since the early eighties. Those who saw that it was going to take a little more work than just graduating high school to make a living are most likely in better shape today than those who did not. Who is really to blame here? The liberals in this country would have you believe that because those who put in the hard work and have become successful are in some way obligated by their success to subsidize those with less. This is Socialism no matter how you dress it up.
Very true
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#6260 Jul 26, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
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Why? We have a huge debt to unwind. That's why we can't cut taxes AND why we MUST reduce program funding before interest on our debt eats us alive and we start defaulting. It will take both steep cuts and increased revenues to get the job done.
<quoted text> Lavish vacations? Well, I have no objection to reducing GSA spending. Okay with me.
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How about we go back to previous immigration quotas, end chain migration and continue immigrating people who can make a valuable contribution? Otherwise, we risk losing out on the inventors, scientists, educated individuals who can help grow America.
How about we invest more in educating America's children?
<quoted text>I'm not delusional. You might be if you think you can simply yell "Stop" and make it all go away. We already DID bail them out, and we already DID create a monster debt, and handling that will not be via tax CUTS. Disavow yourself of that delusional thinking. There's no rationale whatsoever for you to get your hopes up in that regard.
Agree with you on the Importation of skilled workers
into the USA,Both My wife and myself,waited years to
enter the USA,with needed skills..Unfortunately the
waiting for years,and the excessive prolonged process
was explained to me by a ICE agent..They are so backed
up dealing with the terrible amount of Illegal Immigration
thatb legal immigrants pay the Price?? On a lighter but
Bitter note,I applied for a position with a unknown to
me "Patronage" situation,When I presented my CV,resumes
and Education Docs,The HR person whispered to me,Do you
know any one in City Hall??? I replied no..Needless to
say I did not get the Position even though I was eminently
qualified??? LOL..The American way..
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#6261 Jul 26, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text> I'd guess saw grass might work better than solar power. Solar power is supplemental power. We've researched that for awhile, but if it's reliable and efficient and cost effective, okay. Rapeseed/canola, mustard, camelina, sawgrass, etc.. We're looking and studying how to make products that are cost effective alternatives. The bottom line is finding affordable viable alternatives to fossil fuels. We use geothermal here. It does a very good job at containing energy consumption costs. I use FAR less propane and less electric, save considerably. I'm utilizing heat contained in the earth and boosting up from 56-58 degrees. On the reverse, the A/C only comes on long enough to blow that 56-58 degree air into the environment to satisfy the thermostat setting.
In this part of the country, geothermal installation pays for itself in terms of 1) the increased value of your property which pretty much rises consistent with the value of the system, and 2)with utility costs themselves within 8-10 years of use.
I can't guess how many years they estimate they'll be using fossil fuels. Do you want to tell me? The bottom line is that prior to discovering a cheaper and reliable form of fuel and bringing it to market, nobody can factor the unknown into their projections. Only once it is researched and found to be a reliable substitute is that going to be included in the models.
Invest more in educating our children? Seriously? We spend more per student than any other country and yet take a look at where we rank in the world. The problem is NOT that we aren't investing, once again it is how that money is spent. The only thing we need to do to improve our education system is to stand up to the unions that are more interested in teacher benefits than the children being educated. Do away with "No Child Left Behind" and make teacher accountable. No more "jobs for life" through tenure. It's not a matter of the amount we spend it's the fact that most of it is used to make teachers happy and sastify their interest which is NOT the children, it's their retirement and their job security. No one should have a job for life. THey get lazy and our children suffer. It's typical of progressives to want to throw money at every problem but when it comes to accountability for how that money is spent they sure don't seem to want to go for that. Do away with tenure, make teachers accountable, do away with No Child Left Behind, and allow the money that is given per student to go with that child to whatever school their parents want to send them and the schools would start competing and work harder to be better institutions of education. Do those things and they cost nothing to do and yet they would turn our education system around and our children would start getting the education they deserve.

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Since: Mar 07

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#6263 Jul 26, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
<quoted text>
Agree with you on the Importation of skilled workers
into the USA,Both My wife and myself,waited years to
enter the USA,with needed skills..Unfortunately the
waiting for years,and the excessive prolonged process
was explained to me by a ICE agent..They are so backed
up dealing with the terrible amount of Illegal Immigration
thatb legal immigrants pay the Price?? On a lighter but
Bitter note,I applied for a position with a unknown to
me "Patronage" situation,When I presented my CV,resumes
and Education Docs,The HR person whispered to me,Do you
know any one in City Hall??? I replied no..Needless to
say I did not get the Position even though I was eminently
qualified??? LOL..The American way..
Yes, I know how that works, and I'm sorry that there is so much of that kind of influence in government AND the private sectors. On the other hand, at the Federal Government level, there are the tests you take to go onto the register. To large extent, if you're toward the top of the FSEE, you'll get a job, and the government will hire continuing traveling down that list from top to bottom until the next test results come out, and they'll start from the top all over again. So, some things are based on skills and aptitude. Nevertheless, by the time you get to local government and City Hall, it's ALL about who you know and whose behind you'll kiss.

If our government didn't welcome illegal immigration, they would have stopped it LONG ago. It's another way to take down wages and living standards in America and is part of the partnership America has with Mexico. There is no other rational explanation for why it hasn't been stopped or for why Republicans are holding up Mandatory E-Verify legislation from coming to the floor for a vote. Neither party wants to change the status quo. It works for businesses. It works for good relations with Mexico. They won't educate their own people, but they don't mind at all if we do and they appreciate the funds wire tranferred home contributing to their third largest source of revenue.

Only American regulars want to stop illegal immigration. Government wants as many people as they can bring in in order to compete with China and Mexico and replace our own population which would otherwise be in decline. It's a travesty that those wanting to immigrate legally must wait years through the paperwork shuffle. I guess that's why so many just enter on a visa and fail to depart when time is up. DHS has no idea where these people are. It's a really failed system, and it continues to harm American labor and American taxpayers as well as legal immigrants who also compete with illegal labor for jobs.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

Since: Jan 08

Yellowknife NT

#6264 Jul 26, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>
Invest more in educating our children? Seriously? We spend more per student than any other country and yet take a look at where we rank in the world. The problem is NOT that we aren't investing, once again it is how that money is spent. The only thing we need to do to improve our education system is to stand up to the unions that are more interested in teacher benefits than the children being educated. Do away with "No Child Left Behind" and make teacher accountable. No more "jobs for life" through tenure. It's not a matter of the amount we spend it's the fact that most of it is used to make teachers happy and sastify their interest which is NOT the children, it's their retirement and their job security. No one should have a job for life. THey get lazy and our children suffer. It's typical of progressives to want to throw money at every problem but when it comes to accountability for how that money is spent they sure don't seem to want to go for that. Do away with tenure, make teachers accountable, do away with No Child Left Behind, and allow the money that is given per student to go with that child to whatever school their parents want to send them and the schools would start competing and work harder to be better institutions of education. Do those things and they cost nothing to do and yet they would turn our education system around and our children would start getting the education they deserve.
BINGO!

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Since: Mar 07

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#6265 Jul 26, 2012
China and "India". Sorry.

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#6266 Jul 26, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>
Invest more in educating our children? Seriously? We spend more per student than any other country and yet take a look at where we rank in the world. The problem is NOT that we aren't investing, once again it is how that money is spent. The only thing we need to do to improve our education system is to stand up to the unions that are more interested in teacher benefits than the children being educated. Do away with "No Child Left Behind" and make teacher accountable. No more "jobs for life" through tenure. It's not a matter of the amount we spend it's the fact that most of it is used to make teachers happy and sastify their interest which is NOT the children, it's their retirement and their job security. No one should have a job for life. THey get lazy and our children suffer. It's typical of progressives to want to throw money at every problem but when it comes to accountability for how that money is spent they sure don't seem to want to go for that. Do away with tenure, make teachers accountable, do away with No Child Left Behind, and allow the money that is given per student to go with that child to whatever school their parents want to send them and the schools would start competing and work harder to be better institutions of education. Do those things and they cost nothing to do and yet they would turn our education system around and our children would start getting the education they deserve.
Are you running for office? Good luck.
ILLEGALS SUK A LOT

Helena, MT

#6268 Jul 26, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I know how that works, and I'm sorry that there is so much of that kind of influence in government AND the private sectors. On the other hand, at the Federal Government level, there are the tests you take to go onto the register. To large extent, if you're toward the top of the FSEE, you'll get a job, and the government will hire continuing traveling down that list from top to bottom until the next test results come out, and they'll start from the top all over again. So, some things are based on skills and aptitude. Nevertheless, by the time you get to local government and City Hall, it's ALL about who you know and whose behind you'll kiss.
If our government didn't welcome illegal immigration, they would have stopped it LONG ago. It's another way to take down wages and living standards in America and is part of the partnership America has with Mexico. There is no other rational explanation for why it hasn't been stopped or for why Republicans are holding up Mandatory E-Verify legislation from coming to the floor for a vote. Neither party wants to change the status quo. It works for businesses. It works for good relations with Mexico. They won't educate their own people, but they don't mind at all if we do and they appreciate the funds wire tranferred home contributing to their third largest source of revenue.
Only American regulars want to stop illegal immigration. Government wants as many people as they can bring in in order to compete with China and Mexico and replace our own population which would otherwise be in decline. It's a travesty that those wanting to immigrate legally must wait years through the paperwork shuffle. I guess that's why so many just enter on a visa and fail to depart when time is up. DHS has no idea where these people are. It's a really failed system, and it continues to harm American labor and American taxpayers as well as legal immigrants who also compete with illegal labor for jobs.
A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND!!!
LMAO

Dublin, OH

#6269 Jul 26, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you running for office? Good luck.
Well sweet cheeks, he'd be better than that bas tard you support for president.
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#6270 Jul 26, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you running for office? Good luck.
Nope, but I assume you agree.
LMAO

Dublin, OH

#6271 Jul 26, 2012
ILLEGALS SUK A LOT wrote:
<quoted text>A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND!!!
You got that right!

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#6273 Jul 26, 2012
Jeff T in MPLS wrote:
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Have you been to Youngstown in the last 25 years? It has been crumbling since the '70s. Unlike the larger cities of the "rust belt" like Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Detroit, Y-town did not have the resources or the political clout to garner the attention of politicians and therefore money, regionally or nationally.
Who would want to stand in the shadow of Cleveland and Dennis Kucinich running that town into bankruptcy? Even now, City Hall is fraught with corruption. Wait until the mortgage scandal gets follow all the way up to the mayors office because of all the questionable loans to minorities that have gone bad and that whole "predatory lending" thing)!(still brewing in Columbus).
Give away "stimulus money" and then stop the project? Who would do that unless, say, it helped buy votes from those offered the promise of work only to have the project shut off, say, in February or March for "more study".
Why is everyone "so impatient" when there is a "slight delay"? Economically, I think you will agree that 30 years is a LONG time to wait for decent paying jobs.
But suddenly, 4 months before the election, in an essential swing state,$20 million dollars and jobs are promised from the Feds!
It is a coincidence, I am sure!
Just wanted to say I HAVE been to Cleveland a few years back, and I will never forget the experience. We were down in the vacated manufacturing district to pick up equipment won at auction. It was a ghost town, and so lonely there wasn't even any trash around just tall grass and weeds - no people ventured there anymore. It was a testament to human misery to me, and it touched me deeply. I've talked about that on these threads. The hope was outsourced, and what was left behind was broken dreams and broken people whose despair translated into a very high crime rate. Do I blame THIS Administration for THAT nightmare? No. I blame the idiotic concept of moving at lightning speed to a Service Driven economy without a clue as to what that portended to the folks left on the curb.
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#6274 Jul 26, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I know how that works, and I'm sorry that there is so much of that kind of influence in government AND the private sectors. On the other hand, at the Federal Government level, there are the tests you take to go onto the register. To large extent, if you're toward the top of the FSEE, you'll get a job, and the government will hire continuing traveling down that list from top to bottom until the next test results come out, and they'll start from the top all over again. So, some things are based on skills and aptitude. Nevertheless, by the time you get to local government and City Hall, it's ALL about who you know and whose behind you'll kiss.
If our government didn't welcome illegal immigration, they would have stopped it LONG ago. It's another way to take down wages and living standards in America and is part of the partnership America has with Mexico. There is no other rational explanation for why it hasn't been stopped or for why Republicans are holding up Mandatory E-Verify legislation from coming to the floor for a vote. Neither party wants to change the status quo. It works for businesses. It works for good relations with Mexico. They won't educate their own people, but they don't mind at all if we do and they appreciate the funds wire tranferred home contributing to their third largest source of revenue.
Only American regulars want to stop illegal immigration. Government wants as many people as they can bring in in order to compete with China and Mexico and replace our own population which would otherwise be in decline. It's a travesty that those wanting to immigrate legally must wait years through the paperwork shuffle. I guess that's why so many just enter on a visa and fail to depart when time is up. DHS has no idea where these people are. It's a really failed system, and it continues to harm American labor and American taxpayers as well as legal immigrants who also compete with illegal labor for jobs.
GOOD POST,GUESS THATS WHY WE NEVER SEE,HEAR ANY PRESSURE ON
THE MEXICAN GOVTS,TO INCREASE THE STANDARDS OF LIFE INCOME
IN THEIR OWN NATION...ITS SUCH AN OBVIOUS LACK OF PRESSURE
BY US ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT IMMIGRATION & THE COSTS RELATED
TO IT..PLUS THE NEVER ENDING BILLIONS OF $$ RE THE SO CALLED
BORDERS?? SO VERY SAD FOR SUCH A GREAT NATION SUCH AS OURS??

“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”

Since: Dec 08

Brooklyn, New York

#6275 Jul 26, 2012
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>
NO! He failed us! He had the perfect chance to unite the country but chose far left wing almost socialist rules that he HID during the campaign. And when his true intent came out people chose to ignore it!
This is just alot of backwards babbling about the president. Right wing jargon.

You've possibly failed yourself.
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#6276 Jul 26, 2012
NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I know how that works, and I'm sorry that there is so much of that kind of influence in government AND the private sectors. On the other hand, at the Federal Government level, there are the tests you take to go onto the register. To large extent, if you're toward the top of the FSEE, you'll get a job, and the government will hire continuing traveling down that list from top to bottom until the next test results come out, and they'll start from the top all over again. So, some things are based on skills and aptitude. Nevertheless, by the time you get to local government and City Hall, it's ALL about who you know and whose behind you'll kiss.
If our government didn't welcome illegal immigration, they would have stopped it LONG ago. It's another way to take down wages and living standards in America and is part of the partnership America has with Mexico. There is no other rational explanation for why it hasn't been stopped or for why Republicans are holding up Mandatory E-Verify legislation from coming to the floor for a vote. Neither party wants to change the status quo. It works for businesses. It works for good relations with Mexico. They won't educate their own people, but they don't mind at all if we do and they appreciate the funds wire tranferred home contributing to their third largest source of revenue.
Only American regulars want to stop illegal immigration. Government wants as many people as they can bring in in order to compete with China and Mexico and replace our own population which would otherwise be in decline. It's a travesty that those wanting to immigrate legally must wait years through the paperwork shuffle. I guess that's why so many just enter on a visa and fail to depart when time is up. DHS has no idea where these people are. It's a really failed system, and it continues to harm American labor and American taxpayers as well as legal immigrants who also compete with illegal labor for jobs.
SO BASICALLY MEXICO IS USED AS A RESERVOIR OF CHEAP LABOR??

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Since: Mar 07

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#6277 Jul 26, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, but I assume you agree.
See. I told you about your reading comprehension issues. Read my previous post again s-l-o-w-l-y.

We need to invest in education - not just with dollars - but in putting public education back together again to WHATEVER it was we did that we did so very well several decades ago when we were ranked at the top globally. And, don't tell me you think we should continue destroying our students' college education potential by strapping American students with ungodly tuitions and high interest student loan debt for which it takes years to pay down. I graduated not owing one penny to anybody and was free to go seek work. My daughter's masters' will cost as much as her four year undergraduate degree.

Whatever we did and however we invested, we need to get back to that program again. This one clearly isn't working. We are plummeting in global academic rank. It sucks.
Feet Dont Fail Me Now

Fullerton, CA

#6278 Jul 26, 2012
Homeland security chief defends failure to inspect 100 percent of cargo arriving in U.S.
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/07/homel...

Republicans accuse Obama of leadership failure over defense cuts
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/07/26/usa-...

Oakland police radios fail during Obama visit
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Oakland...

Senate passes Democratic tax plan destined for failure in the House
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/senate-pa...

Failure not an option for team USA
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/usa/story/...

“Get RIGHT or be left”

Since: Nov 07

www.dreamindemon.com

#6280 Jul 26, 2012
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>The energy density of biofuel is 1/3 that of standard fuel.
In layman's terms, it takes more biofuel to travel the same distance as non-diluted fuel.
i.e. using biofuel increases the "carbon footprint".
How asinine to use biofuel!
So, in review:

This fuel takes three times as much to do the same job

It costs 6 x what the previous fuel did per gallon

So the cost of production is much higher

So the carbon footprint is at least 6x bigger

What is the upside?

Oh! They give money to Obama!

All is good!

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#6281 Jul 26, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
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SO BASICALLY MEXICO IS USED AS A RESERVOIR OF CHEAP LABOR??
Yes. Both ways. Our corporations use Mexicans in Mexico. There, they don't have to adhere to the same standards of work place safety, wages, benefits, etc.. The way that we do things these days is that parts and pieces travel back and forth across the border, some pieces manufactured there, some here, and assembly of the final product takes place in whichever location is most cost effective. The government doesn't want to "control" the border, because that would slow the transport of goods back and forth, and our producing capability is inextricably intertwined. U.S. Corporations have invested Billions of dollars in their operations in Mexico.

Still, Mexican labor realized that for a few miles more in the journey, they could make 4-8X as much per hour on the other side, and once that money went home again to Mexico, the conversion rate made it a relative bonanza. When our economy was strong, Mexicans were sending a LOT of money home to build businesses and new homes, to pave driveways and install irrigation systems and put on a new roof, etc.. It was working really well for them.

Everybody was happy EXCEPT for U.S. workers who were displaced as well as legal immigrants who had more difficulty, and U.S. taxpayers who were forced to subsidize the living standards of those who decided to stay here but were still paid poorly.

Business likes this arrangement, and government likes whatever makes business happy. All we have left is our votes.

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