Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[Justified 7]

Buckster wrote:

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I will be happy to discuss it by email, Preston can give you my email address.

[e-mail] / God bless

[Realityis_NOT]

Whats God Doing wrote:

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Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF (((HARLOTS))) AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Step back a mite further in time and you find that the Romans killed off the True Church and then established their own version of Christianity. Jesus and Paul both warned of a falling away that would have to take place in order for the Son of Perdition to rise up so that he along with the False Prophet could gather this Condemned World to Armeggedon. Which from the looks of things is probably not to far off in the near future.
John 3:19; Luke 17:22,23; 2 Thessalonians 2:3,7-12; Revelation 16:13-16; Mathew 13:40-43.

Good quote...a very thought provoking one at that!(for those that can think at least!)

[maninblack]

Why can't we all just smoke a doobie and get along?

[RealityIS]

John from NJ wrote:

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Frankly that is the same mumbo jumbo that was coming out of the last pope who seemed more and more confused about who he was or what he believed. It was what prompted the current pope to restate what the Roman Catholic Church believes which is the cause of this thread.
You either stand for the truth or you stand for nothing.

Sounds like the guy was telling you-he believes-- as well as in those that WALK THE WALK, and set the REAL examples of TRUTH.
(not..oh "I believe"...just not when I want to run out and act like a hedonistic moraless heathen".

[RealityIS]

maninblack wrote:

Why can't we all just smoke a doobie and get along?

Some of us need our brain cells intact-unfortunelty, reality requires it for nondistorted living.

[St Dick]

maninblack wrote:

Why can't we all just smoke a doobie and get along?

I agree-smokem if you gottem!

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John from NJ wrote:

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Honesty is a problem with you folks I see.

John,you are the one who is so austere, and you wonder why we come up with some of those statements as the "Wolf in sheep's clothing." Notwithstanding others in the prot camp can be pretty brash and so on a so forth.

You keep telling us that we do not understand the Bible,and your church is the only one,and we reject it for whatever reason.I wonder why?Really John you do not understand your brothers and sisters in Christ,and you would rather stay in the dark on your Orthodox Island.

No doubt that we are not right on with every Christian concept,but who is here?I suppose if a bunch of priests and ministers were arguing here their responses would be much better?People do not have time to spend in debate tanks,that is the clergy especially do not have that time.

As for the negative rhetoric we all feed off each other that type of menu,here because the frustration over never agreeing is quite obvious.Not all prots use the negative banter,and of course one needs to see that,and respond accordingly.Not all the Catholics use the negative banter and we need to see that. I have told certain people who post quite often that they are using billy clubs, and that is no better than trying to force one into believing a certain way.

But we will have to treat each other with more respect,and yes we can defend ourselves if need be.That goes for one of the chief offenders who calls himself atemcowboy,he is getting better,his billy clubs are maybe rubber now,as before they were bats, and even at times metal bats.The rubber bats don't leave marks,but they do hurt!

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ALL FOR THE LOVE OF wrote:

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You are a liar and the truth is not in you.
EVIL.
You wrote:
But your loss does not a dogma make.
Never said it did.
I believed the same doctrine before.
You wrote:
Actually you have and actually you do.
I'll say it one more time,
I have never used my precious son for debating,that is a lie straight from satan.
You won't let it go.
You just keep bringing my son up for your own selfish reasons.
You are a cold hearted and evil person to keep this going.
If you want to say that you won a debate,then say it.
JUST STOP BRINGING MY SON UP TO ME AND
STOP TRYING TO TEAR DOWN THE WORK JESUS DID ON CALVARY AND WHAT HE DID FOR ALL WHO CALLS UPON HIS NAME.
AND STOP TAKING THE GLORY FROM THE LORD AND GIVING IT TO THAT DADGUM CHURCH OF YOURS.
LEAVE ME ALONE.
I HAVE NO INTEREST IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
IF YOU WANT TO KEEP BEARING FALSE WITNESS AGAINST ME,
HAVE AT IT.
GOD KNOW'S THE INTENT OF YOUR HEART.
"For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit;
>>>neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
>>>>> For every tree is known by his own fruit.
For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
>>> A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good;
>>>and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart
>>>>bringeth forth that which is evil:
>>>>for of the abundance of the heart
((((his mouth speaketh.))))
And why call ye me,'Lord, Lord',
(( and do not the things which I say?"))
Luke 6:43-46
Psalms 40:4, "Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and respecteth >>>not the proud,<<<
>>>>nor such as turn aside to lies."
Psalms 52:2-4,((("Thy tongue deviseth mischiefs;)))
like a sharp razor,
>>>> working deceitfully.<<<<
>>>Thou lovest evil more than good;<<< >>>and lying rather than to speak righteousness.<<<
Selah.
Thou lovest all devouring words,
>>O thou deceitful tongue."<<
Psalms 58:3, "The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies."
Psalms 59:12, "For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their ((pride:)) and for cursing and lying which they speak."
Psalms 62:3-4, "… ye shall be slain all of you…they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly."
Psalms 63:11, "...the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped."
Psalms 101:7, "He that worketh deceit shall not dwell within my house: he that telleth lies shall not tarry in my sight."
Psalms 109:2, "For the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me: they have spoken against me with a lying tongue."
Psalms 119:29, "Remove from me the way of lying: and grant me thy law graciously."
Psalms 119:69,((("The proud have forged a lie against me:))
but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart."
Psalms 119:163, "I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love."

That is pretty accurate of an obvious rebuke.Sounds like maybe the two individuals should refrain from discussing issues with each other doesn't it?

[atemcowboy]

PAD wrote:

<quoted text>But we will have to treat each other with more respect,and yes we can defend ourselves if need be.That goes for one of the chief offenders who calls himself atemcowboy,he is getting better,his billy clubs are maybe rubber now,as before they were bats, and even at times metal bats.The rubber bats don't leave marks,but they do hurt!

PAD, I ahve only this to say to you.

SET ON IT!

I dont agree with satan and his minions, nor should anyone else.

for the Scripture is very clear that LIGHT HAS NO FELLOWSHIP WITH DARKNESS.

when I asked you that question about the catholics charging for infant Baptism. I accepted your honest answer and took the subject no further, even though if I wished to be mean spirited about it, I could have said that even a "love offering" would put many dollars in theri coffers.

dont talk about me in the third person. you got something to say to me or about me, bring it on, pal.

to be quite honest, I dont like your mealy mouth lame responses to many of the catholic on here who continualy lie, but I chose to stay silent till now.

I didnt come on this forum to back down concerning Biblical Truths from you or anyone else, so if you dont like it, you know how to leave this forum, dont you?

[St Dick]

Pray to me, and I'll set you FREE! Don't let the poop rule your life with a set of manmade rules and doctrines.

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Paul WV wrote:

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Heart, soul it really does not make a difference; what is important here is that the BV Mary will have a special role in the Kingdom of God because of her sharing in the sufferings of Christ for the building up of His Body the Church. The inner thoughts of many hearts are revealed during the reciting of the Rosary!

Since many Christians do not use the rosary Paul,the biblical response to what happened to that dear lady,as said by Simeon is simply this:

Mary who born of natural parents and receiving the same curse as all human beings had a revelation when Jesus was in her WOMB.That revelation was that God is her Savior.When she would be faced with the horrible scenes of the death of her Son,she would be exposed in her own soul as all human life would be exposed for what we are in the sight of God.It is not an evil thing to be exposed for what we are Paul in the sight of God.

The sins and the nature of such in our lives though wretched was exposed in the very crucifixion of our Lord.Mary His Mother saw that as she suffered with the agony of losing a Son.The reality of her own sin was as a sword piercing her,and the thoughts and intents of the heart of all would be revealed in the AGONY and PASSION of Christ.This applies to us all Paul,Mary did not have an edge at that moment,she was not spared the sword of piercing,but I am sure she did not shirk from her duty to follow her Son completely as her Savior and Lord! Yes she can be that example of humility,and in the most important way known to us all,in responding to her Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,repenting of her own sin and becoming born again.

She would tell us if she were here,that we must repent and be baptized for the remission of sins.She would testify of her own sinful nature,and that she needed a Savior just as much as every human being on this planet.She is blessed of God in ways you do not believe,and that is to your loss.We gain nothing from Mary being the Immaculate Conception,it does absolutely nothing for the salvation of human kind.We gain nothing from her being an Ever-Virgin when she is married to a man,it is unnatural,and part of a celibate theology which by the way goes back to the Mystery of Babylon. Even the Romans had goddesses that were ever-virgins,(Adona) who was one of the main goddesses,of which the women and the poor of Rome worshiped with great vigor and passion.Men were not even allowed to attend worship of her for the most part.

Our Mary is not an ever-virgin goddess and I cannot wait for the day when she herself tells the Catholics that very fact.She with Joseph had other children,and her Firstborn was Jesus.She was a normal woman married to a normal man,and they had a normal family.They were not two celibates living together.

[Peter Paul and Mary]

MAC wrote:

GEEZ, were they pulling my leg in Catholic school when they taught us that Jesus was a Jew? LOL!! I can then only deduce that the Jewish faith is the one TRUE religion.
Being born & raised Catholic, I believe in the Angels, Saints, etc. I have no use for the Pope. I really don't see him having an affect on my life. He's just another CEO of a large business that never parts with a buck to improve conditions. Catholic schools have closed across the country. Haven't seen any Pope bailout money. Who is constantly badgered to donating whenever a local parish wants renovations --WE ARE!! Who is paying for all the settlements for lawsuits brought against priests -- WE DO!! MEANWHILE, the Pope is sitting on priceless treasures at the Vatican. Time to cash some in and donate where it is needed. Actually, ministers are not supported solely by their congregations -- THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FULL TIME JOBS BESIDES!!! It's time the priests stop MOOCHING OFF the rest of us and work for a living.

Interesting, you live in Emmaus. Christ must've not revealed himself to you on your journey there.

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maninblack wrote:

Why can't we all just smoke a doobie and get along?

Did it ever occur to you we do not like to smoke?So if you are smoking a doobie,enjoy,but do not feel left out when we don't light up.But since we have humor in our lives,we won't mind having a good chat,getting in some good hearty laughs and enjoying your company!

[atemcowboy]

PAD wrote:

<quoted text>That is pretty accurate of an obvious rebuke.Sounds like maybe the two individuals should refrain from discussing issues with each other doesn't it?

do you also have a reading Problem?

Karen has been trying to get john to leave her alone, so it isnt one sided.

why dont you keep your nose out of someone elses business?

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atemcowboy wrote:

<quoted text>PAD, I ahve only this to say to you.
SET ON IT!
I dont agree with satan and his minions, nor should anyone else.
for the Scripture is very clear that LIGHT HAS NO FELLOWSHIP WITH DARKNESS.
when I asked you that question about the catholics charging for infant Baptism. I accepted your honest answer and took the subject no further, even though if I wished to be mean spirited about it, I could have said that even a "love offering" would put many dollars in theri coffers.
dont talk about me in the third person. you got something to say to me or about me, bring it on, pal.
to be quite honest, I dont like your mealy mouth lame responses to many of the catholic on here who continualy lie, but I chose to stay silent till now.
I didnt come on this forum to back down concerning Biblical Truths from you or anyone else, so if you dont like it, you know how to leave this forum, dont you?

When Mark was conversing with you,you gave him a blast from your furnace,that if he couldn't get his facts straight he should shut his mouth.You lay way into people not even giving heed to their type of responses.I do not waste my time trying to get a point across at the expense of trying to smother the other person's response.We have the right to our opinion no doubt,but lambasting shows a side of our character that negates even the GOOD we believe.

Now in the first person which I have given you in the past,perhaps you missed that post.Since I am not your monitor atemcowboy,you are your own person,but don't expect all of us evangelicals to just agree with you no matter how you swing the bat at others.I respect your posts on truth,but will never respect the methods by which you convey that truth.I will set on it!And frankly I am not intimidated by your bat swings.

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atemcowboy wrote:

<quoted text>do you also have a reading Problem?
Karen has been trying to get john to leave her alone, so it isnt one sided.
why dont you keep your nose out of someone elses business?

Oh you know All for the Love in the first person.She is one of my favorite people,so for John's sake I told him inadvertently that he was receiving a rebuke,and that any conversation with her would be better left alone.But than again why am I trying to get your approval here atemcowboy? Are we all in touch with each other off of this thread? Hardly!

[John from NJ]

Justified 7 wrote:

<quoted text>I understand all that already. I just want your views of do you think they are in the church? I just want a direct yes or no. My guess is you believe they are NOT in the church.

Why is it so difficult for you to read what I wrote?

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atemcowboy wrote:

<quoted text>do you also have a reading Problem?
Karen has been trying to get john to leave her alone, so it isnt one sided.
why dont you keep your nose out of someone elses business?

By the way sir,I have no intention of leaving this forum,so if I leave it will not be because of your invitation to do so.

[atemcowboy]

PAD wrote:

<quoted text>When Mark was conversing with you,you gave him a blast from your furnace,that if he couldn't get his facts straight he should shut his mouth.You lay way into people not even giving heed to their type of responses.I do not waste my time trying to get a point across at the expense of trying to smother the other person's response.We have the right to our opinion no doubt,but lambasting shows a side of our character that negates even the GOOD we believe.
Now in the first person which I have given you in the past,perhaps you missed that post.Since I am not your monitor atemcowboy,you are your own person,but don't expect all of us evangelicals to just agree with you no matter how you swing the bat at others.I respect your posts on truth,but will never respect the methods by which you convey that truth.I will set on it!And frankly I am not intimidated by your bat swings.

I had caught mark lying several times. one thing that Icant stand is a liar, now if that offends you, that is your problem, not mine.

BTW, I have several Christians on here who actually email me and appreciate the fact that I dont back down and stand fast, do you?

so go do your drive by shooting on another person, I will not take it from a mealy mouth luke warm, supposedly christian like you appear.

I noticed that you dont drive by and shoot WGAC in the back like you just did me,and this person is evil incarnate.

so yes, if a person comes on here and continually lies like mark did and is called on it, defend him, you are welcome to the liars, since you came from them and are still attached to them

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St Dick wrote:

Pray to me, and I'll set you FREE! Don't let the poop rule your life with a set of manmade rules and doctrines.

Rather listen to the Pope,thanks anyway!