Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 690456 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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guest

United States

#559164 Sep 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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So why are you nagging at the Catholics when you believe that Protestants had the same ill behavior of killing innocent humans as heretics and witches???
WHY???
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how dense can you be on this? really?
HOW MANY TIMES have I said ..... the Catholics STARTED this crap?
and IF NOT FOR THEM
we could have possibly had a peaceful world to live in
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#559165 Sep 5, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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Try to get it this time. You accuse people of claiming millions but can't prove them wrong. However you want to twist it, go for it. It still comes out a lie.
You're sounding like a desperate little minion. Call me what makes you feel good, I don't care.
I don't accuse anyone of claiming millions, dozens of fundies on this board have screamed millions and millions for years...a particularly nasty one said 100 million. Like you, they all point their fingers and snarl "whore of Babylon". Not one of them have ever provided a single reputable source for this number. It's obvious you can't either and are now backtracking. Best if you were to avoid making any accusations you can't support.
guest

United States

#559166 Sep 5, 2014
guest wrote:
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with the Catholic church nobody else is allowed to copy their m.o.
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Only the Roman Catholic Church is allowed to wreak havoc and cause terror in the Name of God ...'cause they have Da KEYS! oh, yeah ...
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Da KEYS render them QUALIFIED to do God's job for him. mmm, hmmm.
NOT!
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Liam wrote:
You are backed in the corner.
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haaa, haaa ...
Now that's the funniest thing you've said ...
care to elaborate?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#559167 Sep 5, 2014
guest wrote:
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"conversion of sorts" ?.... really? just what IS that?
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isn't it MORE like he had a "Baptism into Catholicism of sorts"?... you know, more like a baptism of convenience?
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hedging his 'bets' as it were ....
playing it 'safe'
waiting 'til the last minute possible ...
giving him an excuse to wantonly murder in the Name of God and then grabbing that, "Get Out Of Hell, Free" card ... just before he was about to step into the next life?
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Constantine was a phony. A liar. A cheat. A murderer. An ARROGANT murderer - as he thought he was doing "God's Job."
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he was not qualified to do God's Job.
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as are NONE of the popes.
go figure.
Explain to me why the Orthodox Church venerates Constantine as a saint and the Catholic Church doesn't.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559168 Sep 5, 2014
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Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#559169 Sep 5, 2014
guest wrote:
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how dense can you be on this? really?
HOW MANY TIMES have I said ..... the Catholics STARTED this crap?
and IF NOT FOR THEM
we could have possibly had a peaceful world to live in
If not for them you would be a pagan or a Muslim.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559170 Sep 5, 2014
guest wrote:
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how dense can you be on this? really?
HOW MANY TIMES have I said ..... the Catholics STARTED this crap?
and IF NOT FOR THEM
we could have possibly had a peaceful world to live in
So you now feel justified to blame Catholics for all the nastiness in the world.

Catholics weren't the first ones to start using religion as a weapon.

They learned it from the Jews, who learned it from the ancient Hebrews, who learned it from other religious brutes that knew no better.

Religion doesn't make people cruel, but it sure is handy to try to hide the cruelty in the guise of holiness.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#559171 Sep 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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If not for them you would be a pagan or a Muslim.
That's right! And we would all be just as self-oriented ... no matter to which religion we belonged or didn't belong.

Human nature is nothing of which to brag.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#559172 Sep 5, 2014
Liam wrote:
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When did people start categorizing Catholics and Orthodox? This is a tough one to research online. It seems to me we weren't categorized separately before the great schism. It was one Church. The west belonged to the diocese of Rome and were "Latin rite Catholics". The east had a few different rites and diocese but I don't know that it always called itself Orthodox. I don't think it would make sense, because some of those today label themselves "Catholic". Like Byzantines. You said today Constantine wasn't orthodox, he was catholic? I'm not sure its possible to put him in a category like that.
This is what I was told by my priest a few years ago. The Church was ONE. At the time of 1054 the split, the catholic church took the word catholic....(meaning universal) and the orthodox took the name orthodox ( meaning correct faith) BUT up until that point, the church that Christ founded was called The Way...One Holy, Catholic ( meaning universal) Apostolic Church....Neither Catholic a in the church of today or orthodox as in the church of today...Maybe that is why in the very beginning the two churches do share alot of the same Saints from the early times? I don't know.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#559173 Sep 5, 2014
This question is for those that fancy themselves as Bible sholars.

When scripture states that women should not pray with their heads uncovered and it's because of the angels, why were angels brought up in the topic? Why were they told not to pray with uncovered heads because of angels? What does angels have to do with it?

I have found that even Th.D's are clueless as to why angels were mentioned?

When I ask a question on here most so called Bib;e scholars on this forum are afraid to take up any question I pose. So lets see who has a pair tonight spiritually speaking.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#559174 Sep 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Explain to me why the Orthodox Church venerates Constantine as a saint and the Catholic Church doesn't.
Good question and I will get you the answer by tomorrow night. I will call my priest tomorrow and ask him...

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#559176 Sep 5, 2014
Liam wrote:
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You're the one who inadvertently blamed the Orthodox Church - when u meant to blame the Roman Roman Roman Roman Catholic Church. face the music: You're a ignorant radical fanatic. Nothing matters but smearing your former Church. And u know nothing about your former Church. Does that matter to the fundie? Nope. Carry on.
I was thinking and I am asking you if you know, if the two churches were ONE before the split in 1054 than Constantine wasn't Catholic or Orthodox He converted to Christianity on his deathbed....neither catholic or orthodox but The Way....remember, the two churches were ONE Holy Catholic (universal) Apostolic Church....

Since: Feb 12

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#559177 Sep 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
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Explain to me why the Orthodox Church venerates Constantine as a saint and the Catholic Church doesn't.
Maybe because He repented and excepted Christianity on his deathbed???? He allowed Christianity???
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#559178 Sep 5, 2014
Seraphima wrote:
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Maybe because He repented and excepted Christianity on his deathbed???? He allowed Christianity???
Our friend guest insists that Constantine was a full blown, blood thirsty, murderous "Roman" Catholic and is at a complete loss as to why he's venerated in Orthodoxy and not Catholicism. Please let me know what your priest says, I'm very interested.

Since: Feb 12

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#559179 Sep 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
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.....Christians claim saints have special powers and a place in heaven.
....If you believe orthodox have saints that catholics don't, and catholics have saints orthodox don't, in the end both of you can't be right, but both beliefs can be wrong.
.....Muslims believe with all their hearts in miracles from Allah. Christians believe with all their hearts in miracles from Jesus, Jews don't believe in neither. Buddhists, Hindus believe in something different.
......being born into a belief by chance guarantees nothing in the eyes of all who don't belong to that particular belief.
.....In the end I believe there will be no difference amongst all of us, and I believe we are all the same. Equal. Equal in the eyes of an all loving God, or equal in the sense of some process that we don't understand.
I know for a fact that the two churches have some saints that are different but we also have a lot of the same saints. You believe as you wish as I will believe in what comforts me...In the end we will see wont we....

Since: Feb 12

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#559180 Sep 5, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Yes correct. If I see the Eucharistic consecrated host, I bow down and adore the Holy Blessed Sacrament. If it ain't really Jesus, I'm an idolator. That's why I don't understand the fuss you and Pad and Ox make about supposed Mary worship. You already have the 'damning' evidence in Eucharistic adoration.
And don't forget to cross yourself before and after getting the Eucharist....
guest

United States

#559181 Sep 5, 2014
guest wrote:
"conversion of sorts" ?.... really? just what IS that?
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isn't it MORE like he had a "Baptism into Catholicism of sorts"?... you know, more like a baptism of convenience?
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hedging his 'bets' as it were ....
playing it 'safe'
waiting 'til the last minute possible ...
giving him an excuse to wantonly murder in the Name of God and then grabbing that, "Get Out Of Hell, Free" card ... just before he was about to step into the next life?
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Constantine was a phony. A liar. A cheat. A murderer. An ARROGANT murderer - as he thought he was doing "God's Job."
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he was not qualified to do God's Job.
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as are NONE of the popes.
go figure.
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Anthony MN wrote:
Explain to me why the Orthodox Church venerates Constantine as a saint and the Catholic Church doesn't.
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I'll get right on it as soon as you explain to ME why the Orthodox are not responsible for as much terror throughout history as the Roman Catholics are?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#559182 Sep 5, 2014
Seraphima wrote:
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This is what I was told by my priest a few years ago. The Church was ONE. At the time of 1054 the split, the catholic church took the word catholic....(meaning universal) and the orthodox took the name orthodox ( meaning correct faith) BUT up until that point, the church that Christ founded was called The Way...One Holy, Catholic ( meaning universal) Apostolic Church....Neither Catholic a in the church of today or orthodox as in the church of today...Maybe that is why in the very beginning the two churches do share alot of the same Saints from the early times? I don't know.
There were many saints canonized in both our Churches after the schism and they're not generally recognized by one side or the other. And those canonized prior to the schism were generally recognized as such by the local population, but over time are recognized and venerated by us both. I've done a little research on this in the past and the more obscure saints one might find in Orthodoxy may not be recognized in the Latin Church, but it doesn't mean we disagree with the canonization, rather we just aren't familiar with the circumstances surrounding it. Our (and your) Church tend to be very careful when making such a declaration. I'm still a bit curious about Constantine.
truth

Australia

#559183 Sep 5, 2014
its some roots from before
do you liked or not nobody care

its roots from before
branches by branches does meter how you much diveded on this or on that
its written
tribe against tribe nation against nation
who will be save my god
R+R+R..motor force
see 12000+12000+12000 and so on
144 000 chosen
then
what a about others
who is them with white robes
they wash themself i blade of saints and martyrs=atonoment altar
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#559184 Sep 5, 2014
Seraphima wrote:
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I know for a fact that the two churches have some saints that are different but we also have a lot of the same saints. You believe as you wish as I will believe in what comforts me...In the end we will see wont we....
From what I understand we venerate almost all of the same saints from the first 700 years or more.

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