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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Claremont, CA

#552769 Aug 2, 2014
Pope Frances is pushing hard to promote a one world religion. Now, plans for a church of Chrislam is underway. IMO, we are seeing prophecy unfold before our eyes.

For First Time In History Islamic Prayers To Be Held At The Vatican
http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/06/08/first-ti...

Al Arabyia News

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.

21 June 2014
BBC News, Berlin
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27872551

Berlin thinks it is making religious history as Muslims, Jews and Christians join hands to build a place where they can all worship. The House of One, as it is being called, will be a synagogue, a church and a mosque under one roof.

An architecture competition has been held and the winner chosen. The striking design is for a brick building with a tall, square central tower. Off the courtyard below will be the houses of worship for the three faiths - the synagogue, the church and the mosque. It is to occupy a prominent site - Petriplatz - in the heart of Berlin.

The location is highly significant, according to one of the three religious leaders involved, Rabbi Tovia Ben Chorin. "From my Jewish point of view the city where Jewish suffering was planned is now the city where a centre is being built by the three monotheistic religions which shaped European culture," he told the BBC.

The imam involved, Kadir Sanci, sees the House of One as "a sign, a signal to the world that the great majority of Muslims are peaceful and not violent". It's also, he says, a place where different cultures can learn from each other.

What is Chrislam?
http://carm.org/what-is-chrislam
by Matt Slick

Chrislam is the attempt to combine the teachings and practices of Christianity and Islam. As a movement, it began in Nigeria in the 1980s with Shamsuddin Sada, a religious leader who was born a Muslim but became a Christian. He sought to teach the common themes between the two religions. Unfortunately, the movement has been spreading. In Chrislam, both the Bible and the Quran are recognized as inspired holy texts, and during worship services readings from both books are given. One of the premises of Chrislam is the God of Christianity and the God of Islam are the same with different manifestations.

Chrislam is a dangerous theological blending of both Christianity and Islam. It is not logically possible to combine them because they are mutually exclusive. For example, the Bible says that Jesus is the only way, truth, and life (John 14:6), where Islam denies that. The Bible says that Jesus is God in flesh (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 2:9), which is denied by Islam. Christianity says that Jesus was crucified on the cross and rose from the dead three days later, and Islam denies this. Christianity says that salvation is by grace through faith without works (Romans 3:28; 4:1-5; 5:1; Ephesians 2:8-9). Islam denies this. Christianity teaches that God is a Trinity where Islam denies it.

There is no reconciling the differences between Christianity and Islam. Though it's possible for both groups to live in peace (peace which is taught by Christianity), Islam unfortunately is not a religion of peace but of dominance. Since it openly denies the essentials of the Christian faith, and since it also declares that it is the one true religion that must dominate the planet, we as Christians must be very wary of any combination of Christianity and Islam. This is, unfortunately, another deception.

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#552770 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I suggest Shakespeare was making FUN of the arrogance of those IN religion. He used to baffle the theologians with his wit. They never knew if he was supporting religion or making a mockery of religion.
Double-talking works that way, as you can take any meaning you desire from words.
W.C. Fields —'If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.'
~~~

GOD'S WORD IS ETERNAL WITH NOT DOUBLE TALK...IN MERCY OR IN JUDGMENT...

Psa_119:89 . For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.

GOD SAID THROUGH HIS PROPHET
Isa_55:11 So shall my word be....... that goeth forth out of my mouth:

it shall not return unto me void, but

it shall accomplish that which I please, and

it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

.Psa 103:8 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.

Psa 103:9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.

Psa 103:10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

Psa 103:11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.

Psa 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

Psa 103:13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.

Psa 103:14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.

Psa 103:15 As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.

Psa 103:16 For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.
Psa 103:17 But the mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon them that fear him, and his righteousness unto children's children;
.

Pro_29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#552771 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Think about it Robert. If a god created spirits ... he KNEW when he created the spirit of Satan that Satan would ultimately be EVIL. That means that the god INTENDED Satan to be EVIL.
That means that the god that created Satan is EVIL.
You can choose to worship the image of an evil god ... but I will pass!!!
June

Believe me or not, I have thought about it.

Satan is not Evil. But Satan does evil. That is Satan chooses deception and lies as the means of operation.

For us on earth, we see this in a limited temporal way, for Satan as well as angels do operate within this part of Creation.

Your rejection of eternity(whatever lay forever) is not a basis for rejection that deception and lies exist. After all you accuse me of this all the time.

Since: Dec 06

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#552772 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
And that's WHY you insist on staying IN Catholicism???
It's Easy for you to dine on that word SALVATION as being your HOST.
I understand. You want to avoid hell and the devil that you are certain is REAL.
I never did believe that nonsense.
June

I think you are the one insisting that I stay IN the RCC!!!

It makes it easier for you to avoid my beliefs in God accepting all people.

Haven't you met some person that chooses destruction? Well where do you think they want to be, heaven or hell?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#552773 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You forget to mention to Protestant Rozez that Jesus will reject her to hell ... which is the REAL Catholic FAITH.
It's too late to try to mend a bridge that was first created out of lies.
June

I don't mention such a prospect to Rosez because I don't believe that.

I am sure many RCs would, and vice versa. This forum demonstrates that belief It is one of the things that keeps you going on forum. Right?

For awhile, I tried to make peace between those of entrenched opposite beliefs on this forum. But I found to my dismay that it is not going to happen. Some people hold their beliefs as supreme in their lives. But that is self-deception of the highest order in my opinion.

Since: Dec 06

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#552774 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Unless they are religious, politicians don't believe that a god ordains killing.
That mind-SET FALLS under the stupidity OF religion.
June

So you don't think that politician's in government send kids off to war and kill?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#552775 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
You give the information you BELIEVE ... not the information you KNOW.
I suggest you are spreading lies when you keep spreading words written by men of the Catholic faith.
Religion is hit and miss, and I don't miss any of it ... including your blather that you believe is universal truth.
June

If I don't read and believe the owner's manual and use them, then I may as well just look at my appliances.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#552776 Aug 2, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
June
If I don't read and believe the owner's manual and use them, then I may as well just look at my appliances.
~~~

iT IS EVIDENT THAT YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN TIME TO READ THE FINE PRINT...

HIS NEW TESTAMENT,

GOD'S COVENANT,

GOD'S CONTRACT,

GOD'S WILL, GIVEN TO US BY THE TESTATOR (HIS SON) JESUS CHRIST

THAT IS .SIGNED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST AT HIS DEATH

DOES NOT COVER THAT WHICH IS NOT STATED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

TO THEIR SORROW....

THOSE THAT FORGET THAT JESUS ROSE AGAIN

TO BECAME THE EXECUTOR OF THE

THE WILL OF THE HEAVENLY FATHER
..
WILL FACE THOSE FABLES, LIES AND CONJECTURE

THAT THEY HAVE CONJURED UP AND

HAVE BEEN ADDED

IN COME JUDGMENT DAY.

Heb_9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

Heb_9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

ONE DON'T CHANGE THE WILL AND TESTAMENT AFTER THE TESTATOR HAS DIED..

AND REPLACE IT WITH A FRAUDULENT ONE.........IT IS ILLEGAL....

(CAPITOL LETTERS USED FOR EMPHASIS.)..

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#552777 Aug 2, 2014
who="Oxbow"]<quot ed text>
True..to a point...when one is immersed in water...he can still breathe but holds his breath...he can still see but he closes his eyes, he can still speak but does not, but he can still hear...plain as day...
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

----------
He still cannot do those things under water...

KM

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552778 Aug 2, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
June
I think you are the one insisting that I stay IN the RCC!!!
If you haven't as of yet caught on the idea that I would prefer that all humans leave their personalized cults ... that is your problem.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552779 Aug 2, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
June
If I don't read and believe the owner's manual and use them, then I may as well just look at my appliances.
In religion ... your Catholic bible is the only appliance-manual on which you place value.

If you studied how all devotees in all religions only choose to digest the theology in their own preferential manuals ... you would then see that your manual is nothing special to those except to you and other Catholics.

But you don't WANT to see ... because as you once "confessed" that fear of hell and fear of not making it to "heaven" is what keeps you in the bondage of your personalized cult.

And I can't help you overcome that fear ... as you keep it locked tight in your little box of Catholicism.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552780 Aug 2, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
June
So you don't think that politician's in government send kids off to war and kill?
Try reading it again Robert.

June VanDerMark wrote:

<quoted text>
Unless they are religious, politicians don't believe that a god ordains killing.
That mind-SET FALLS under the stupidity OF religion.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552781 Aug 2, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
June
I don't mention such a prospect to Rosez because I don't believe that.
I am sure many RCs would, and vice versa. This forum demonstrates that belief It is one of the things that keeps you going on forum. Right?
For awhile, I tried to make peace between those of entrenched opposite beliefs on this forum. But I found to my dismay that it is not going to happen. Some people hold their beliefs as supreme in their lives. But that is self-deception of the highest order in my opinion.
You don't fool me with your "nice-guy" slush Robert. You left the Protestant religion because you were CERTAIN that Catholicism offered you the REAL and ONLY chance at Salvation.

You admitted as much to me once way back when I asked you why you left your Protestant religion. Your sentiment WAS that you traced the start of Christian roots back to Catholicism.

Your lies are exposed (at least to me.)

When you now pretend that you are on equal footing with the Protestants ... with me, that jargon doesn't FLY.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552782 Aug 2, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
June
Believe me or not, I have thought about it.
Satan is not Evil. But Satan does evil.
WOW!

I suggest that even the Catholics are astonished at that mindset!

You can't skirt around the stupidity of religion.

If a creator could see the whole plan from beginning to end ... and the creator CHOSE to create Satan knowing he would end up being EVIL, and commit horrible evil deeds ... then the creator WANTED it that way, as it was in HIS PLAN.

Bunkology.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#552783 Aug 2, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
iT IS EVIDENT THAT YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN TIME TO READ THE FINE PRINT...
HIS NEW TESTAMENT,
GOD'S COVENANT,
GOD'S CONTRACT,
GOD'S WILL, GIVEN TO US BY THE TESTATOR (HIS SON) JESUS CHRIST
THAT IS .SIGNED BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST AT HIS DEATH
DOES NOT COVER THAT WHICH IS NOT STATED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
TO THEIR SORROW....
THOSE THAT FORGET THAT JESUS ROSE AGAIN
TO BECAME THE EXECUTOR OF THE
THE WILL OF THE HEAVENLY FATHER
..
WILL FACE THOSE FABLES, LIES AND CONJECTURE
THAT THEY HAVE CONJURED UP AND
HAVE BEEN ADDED
IN COME JUDGMENT DAY.
Heb_9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb_9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
ONE DON'T CHANGE THE WILL AND TESTAMENT AFTER THE TESTATOR HAS DIED..
AND REPLACE IT WITH A FRAUDULENT ONE.........IT IS ILLEGAL....
(CAPITOL LETTERS USED FOR EMPHASIS.)..
Greetings confronting

Peace

Nicely stated. And I might add that we also having a living will, that is the Living Will of God.

The death of Jesus was but one part of the Living, and Loving Will of God. It was for us he died and rose again. It is beyond my understanding why God would do such a thing for us.

I do not think there are words to know the " why" of God would do such a thing for humanity, but all we can do is be amazed in awe at His Glory for having done so....

You may believe I have no relationship with God(the Trinity), or that my beliefs are not the same as yours, and this condemns me. But I think it is only God who would know what is in my heart.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552784 Aug 2, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
GOD'S WORD IS ETERNAL WITH NOT DOUBLE TALK
Well then the "god" must get his own story straight. Either he loved the Jews as his chosen few ... or he didn't.

Which way WAS it???

Either he loved the Catholics as his chosen few ... or he didn't. Which way was it???

Either he loved the other Muslims as his chosen few, or he didn't. Which way was it???

Either he loved the Protestants or he didn't. Which way was it???

Never mind ... I know your "answer." He loves ONLY you and those that agree with you.

BWAAAGGGHHH!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552785 Aug 2, 2014
Those in religion definitely suffer from dementia of the brain-cells.

To refer to a god as being of the character of LOVE and to believe in the existence of a devil that was created BY the same god to spread evil in the humans of earth, stems from a sickness of mind ... which is not at all RARE, but in fact VERY common.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#552786 Aug 2, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
In religion ... your Catholic bible is the only appliance-manual on which you place value.
If you studied how all devotees in all religions only choose to digest the theology in their own preferential manuals ... you would then see that your manual is nothing special to those except to you and other Catholics.
But you don't WANT to see ... because as you once "confessed" that fear of hell and fear of not making it to "heaven" is what keeps you in the bondage of your personalized cult.
And I can't help you overcome that fear ... as you keep it locked tight in your little box of Catholicism.
June

I think there is a problem with quantity. By that I mean I just don't have the time to study all religions. I don't know the languages of all religions. What would it prosper me, or anyone else for me to know all these things? I think very little.

I think you are forgetting that fear exists. It is a mechanism of sensing danger. And one does need to overcome fear.

In Christianity fear is overcome by love, and doing good. It is that simple.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#552787 Aug 2, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Oxbow"]<quot ed text>
True..to a point...when one is immersed in water...he can still breathe but holds his breath...he can still see but he closes his eyes, he can still speak but does not, but he can still hear...plain as day...
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
----------
He still cannot do those things under water...
KM
You said he was dead....he can't do any of those things being dead...honest...check it out!!!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#552788 Aug 2, 2014
To put faith in the existence of an all-powerful, all-knowing creator means that every bit of suffering in all forms of life including human-life was at first put in the PLAN.

You can't get around it, and still be honest with your selves OR others.

Religion is simply human-created nonsense.

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