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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 695506 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at CBC News.

Regina

Toms River, NJ

#551590 Jul 26, 2014
USA Born wrote:
The Pope first said the Catholic churche is the only true church and they believed him?
In 2013 the Pope declared that all churches are true but the Catholics on this forum won't except it.Does the Pope have it wrong or just his followers?
You guys are all messed up.
Pope: Other denominations not true churches
Benedict issues statement asserting that Jesus established ‘only one church’
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19692094/ns/world_n ...
LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy — Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.
Benedict approved a document from his old offices at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that restates church teaching on relations with other Christians.
On Saturday, Benedict revisited another key aspect of Vatican II by reviving the old Latin Mass . Traditional Catholics cheered the move, but more liberal ones called it a step back from Vatican II.
Pope Francis Condemns Racism And Declares That “All Religions Are True” At Historic Third Vatican Council | Diversity Chronicle
http://diversitychronicle.wordpress.com/2013/ ...
•World News
•December 24, 2013
For the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in Vatican City, discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is undoubtedly the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962. Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”
“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God” Pope Francis declared.
In a speech that shocked many, the Pope claimed “All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
1.“God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts.
2.The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated.
3.Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God” Pope Francis declared.
In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests.
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USA Born

Claremont, CA

#551592 Jul 26, 2014
Regina wrote:
In the Eastern Church, a distinction was made between bishops and other clergy as to whether they had to be celibate. Emperor Justinian’s Code of Civil Law forbade anyone who had children or even nephews to be consecrated a bishop. The Council of Trullo (692) mandated that a bishop be celibate, and if he were married, he would have to separate from his wife before his consecration. Priests, deacons, and subdeacons were forbidden to marry after ordination, although they were to continue to fulfill their marital vows if married before ordination. These regulations still stand for most of the Eastern Churches.
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/apologe...
Forbidding to allow arriage under certain circumastances is still forbidding marriage. That's all we were talking about.
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#551593 Jul 26, 2014
Don’t fall for this Pope Francis hoax: 5 things to know and share

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/don...
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#551594 Jul 26, 2014
marriage
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#551595 Jul 26, 2014
Satire - Pope Francis and the 'Third Vatican Council'
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/pope-francis-third...
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#551596 Jul 26, 2014
Regina wrote:
Why are you throwing out stupid websites instead of disproving what I posted? You obviously don't agree. Your Pope says what he says. It's not up to you to discredit his words is it?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#551597 Jul 26, 2014
KayMarie wrote:
who="RoSesz"]<quo ted text>
Good to see you Kay .
Hope you are doing better . GOD bless you both
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Thank you so much. He is blessing us...and you!
KayMarie

Peace

I am so happy to see you are able to be on here. My concern and prayers for you have been answered.
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#551598 Jul 26, 2014
Did Pope Francis really say that? Probably not
By Eric J. Lyman | Religion News Service February 4

ROME — Did you hear that Pope Francis plans to call a Third Vatican Council? Or that he uncovered previously unknown Bible verses? Or that he sees the story of Adam and Eve as just a fable?

Here’s the problem: None of it is true.

Still, that didn’t stop these and other stories from ricocheting around the Internet and, in some cases, even in traditional news sources. Among the dozens of other fake pope stories are claims that he called hell a literary device and that he believes all religions are equally true.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religi...
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#551599 Jul 26, 2014
USA Born wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you throwing out stupid websites instead of disproving what I posted? You obviously don't agree. Your Pope says what he says. It's not up to you to discredit his words is it?
Why are you throwing out what is a well known hoax, nothing but a bunch of bigoted anti-Catholic garbage?

Don't bother answering......we all know why.
KayMarie

Carlisle, PA

#551600 Jul 26, 2014
who="Michael"]<qu oted text>
...33,000?? That's a big drop from yesterday of 42,200.
YIKES!!

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I know. I just used his 'quote'. It IS usually 42,000.
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#551601 Jul 26, 2014
Satire - Pope Francis and the 'Third Vatican Council'

The claims are untrue. The report comes from the SATIRICAL WEBSITE DIVERSITY CHRONICLE and is a work of FICTION. There is no Third Vatican Council and Pope Francis made no such announcements.
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/pope-francis-third...
KayMarie

Carlisle, PA

#551602 Jul 26, 2014
who=" hojo"]<quoted text>
I guess that they could dump all of the others but then which one of the 42,201 is the TRUTH !.....There can be ONLY ONE Truth ---not all 42,201 even they they ALL claim to be the TRUTH as the argue, fight , disagree, dispute, bitch, and call each other names such as stupid,ignorant, dumb, ect----------Glad to have you back Kay Marie.....Hope your feeling better!.....GodsBlessing to you and you family!!!!

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Sorry...I think you misunderstood me. I just added the CC to the other 42,000.

Thank you...
LTM

Elliot Lake, Canada

#551603 Jul 26, 2014
USA Born wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible gives us the past, present and future. So your popes are prophets?
"USA BORN" popes ARE FALSE PROPHETS.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#551604 Jul 26, 2014
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Celibacy is not a doctrine of The Church, but a discipline of choice.
There are many married Catholic clergy, they are known as permanent Deacons
However, the candidates for orders are solemnly warned by the bishop at the beginning of the ceremony regarding the gravity of the obligation which they are incurring.
He tells them:
"You ought anxiously to consider again and again what sort of a burden this is which you are taking upon you of your own accord. Up to this you are free. You may still, if you choose, turn to the aims and desires of the world. But if you receive this order it will no longer be lawful to turn back from your purpose. You will be required to continue in the service of God, and with His assistance to observe chastity and to be bound for ever in the ministrations of the Altar, to serve who is to reign."
http://newadvent.org/cathen/03481a.htm
In Matthew 19:12, Christ clearly commends those who, "for the sake of the kingdom of God", have held aloof from the married state, though He adds: "he who can accept it, let him accept it".
St. Paul is even more explicit:
"I would that all men were even as myself; but every one hath his proper gift from God .... But I say to the unmarried and to the widows, it is good for them if they so continue, even as I.
And further on:
"But I would have you to be without solicitude. He that is without a wife is solicitous for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please God. But he that is with a wife, is solicitous for the things of the world, how he may please his wife: and he is divided. And the unmarried woman and the virgin thinketh on the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and spirit. But she that is married thinketh on the things of this world how she may please her husband. And this I speak for your profit, not to cast a snare upon you, but for that which is decent and which may give you power to attend upon the Lord without impediment." (1 Corinthians 7:7-8 and 32-35)
A rose by any other name is still a rose......

By stepping forward despite this warning, when invited to do so, and by co-operating in the rest of the ordination service, the candidate is understood to bind himself equivalently by a vow of chastity. He is henceforth unable to contract a valid marriage, and any serious transgression in the matter of this vow is not only a grievous sin in itself but incurs the additional guilt of sacrilege.

If he does not accept this requirement by stepping forward....a priest he is not...pure and simple...
KayMarie

Carlisle, PA

#551605 Jul 26, 2014
who="Regina"]<quo ted text>
Celibacy in the Priesthood
In examining the issue of celibacy, we should first address its historical development in the life of the Church and then, next week, its spiritual basis and relevance for today’s clergy.
Our Lord presented celibacy as a legitimate lifestyle not only by His very life, since He never married, but also in His teaching. When our Lord emphasized that marriage was a covenant between husband and wife and thereby prohibited divorce and re-marriage (cf. Mt 19:3-12), He concluded, "Some men are incapable of sexual activity from birth; some have been deliberately made so; and some there are who have freely renounced sex for the sake of God’s reign." Traditionally, our Church — as cited in the Catechism (No. 1579)— points to this "free renunciation of sex for the sake of God’s reign" as a basis for celibacy.
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/apologe...

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Jesus didn't marry because He didn't come to make more flesh in the world. He came to overcome the sin into which flesh had fallen. he couldn't do that by obeying the flesh.
He also said that there were very few who could 'deal' with celibacy...not hundreds...even thousands...who are required to promise to do so as a requirement for their position in the CC...and many of them don't make it.
I know that you will say that they 'willingly' take that pledge...but YOU know that if they do not, they will not be accepted.
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#551606 Jul 26, 2014
Regina wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you throwing out what is a well known hoax, nothing but a bunch of bigoted anti-Catholic garbage?
Don't bother answering......we all know why.
I'm beginning to believe it was a hoax. But then we have to face the reality that the pope truly believes his church is the only true church.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#551607 Jul 26, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I used another translation. So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings[c] we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
But that was NEVER my point but I did know one thing.
you would stick your nose in on something that didn't concern YOU.lol
Guiding you to truth...a freebie....

btw...any post on this public forum is my concern if I so deem it...
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#551608 Jul 26, 2014
KayMarie wrote:
who="Regina"]<quo ted text>
Celibacy in the Priesthood
In examining the issue of celibacy, we should first address its historical development in the life of the Church and then, next week, its spiritual basis and relevance for today’s clergy.
Our Lord presented celibacy as a legitimate lifestyle not only by His very life, since He never married, but also in His teaching. When our Lord emphasized that marriage was a covenant between husband and wife and thereby prohibited divorce and re-marriage (cf. Mt 19:3-12), He concluded, "Some men are incapable of sexual activity from birth; some have been deliberately made so; and some there are who have freely renounced sex for the sake of God’s reign." Traditionally, our Church — as cited in the Catechism (No. 1579)— points to this "free renunciation of sex for the sake of God’s reign" as a basis for celibacy.
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/apologe...
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Jesus didn't marry because He didn't come to make more flesh in the world. He came to overcome the sin into which flesh had fallen. he couldn't do that by obeying the flesh.
He also said that there were very few who could 'deal' with celibacy...not hundreds...even thousands...who are required to promise to do so as a requirement for their position in the CC...and many of them don't make it.
I know that you will say that they 'willingly' take that pledge...but YOU know that if they do not, they will not be accepted.
"Few" does not mean "None". Obviously, "Some" could accept it even in Jesus' time.

The Orthodox Church also has celibacy requirements as I noted in a subsequent post. What are your thoughts on that?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#551609 Jul 26, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Traditions referred to in the Bible that are NOT in the bible:
1.Trinity
2.Apostles Creed
3. Immaculate a Conception
4. Nice cone Creed
5. Sign of the Cross
6. daily Mass
7. Seven Sacraments
8. Confession
9. Absolution
.......just to nsme a fee!,,,,,,,,,
Liar...

The definition of the Greek word for tradition in Scripture is: a precept; specially, the Jewish traditionary law:--ordinance, tradition.

You, typical of graduates of Hollywood 101, use the English definition: A time-honored practice or set of such practices....
Regina

Toms River, NJ

#551610 Jul 26, 2014
USA Born wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm beginning to believe it was a hoax. But then we have to face the reality that the pope truly believes his church is the only true church.
Beginning to believe? Why didn't you check it out instead of putting your trust in web sites such as "Diversity Chronicle" and "Historical News" or whatever? That would have been the wisest and most prudent thing to do, the most "Christian" thing to do.

How many churches did Christ build? To how many churches did he impart His authority to bind and loose and give the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven?

So, of course, the Pope believes it! It's true! Have you ever read the document referred to in those articles you keep linking to? Just like your error about the "3rd Vatican Council", you're accepting whatever you read on the internet, no matter who publishes it, instead of going to the source and finding out what is truly stated, truly taught, truly believed. Knowledge is a wonderful thing.

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