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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 646792 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551108 Jul 23, 2014
LTM wrote:
BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST;
If Jesus actually lived and in turn died a tortuous death, it was because he vilified Judaism and mocked it as vile. The faithful Jews would have WANTED him to die a horrible death.

That would have been justified ... under all religious protocol of that era.

"Don't leave our religion for another religion ... or you will die ... you TRAITOR!!!"
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551109 Jul 23, 2014
StarC wrote:
Sniped for space...
Are u sure you know what you are typing????
From your post above ....too funny, is this from a catholic site??? lol
"Therefore, the "wh--- of Babylon" cannot refer exclusively to Rome. Revelation 17:15 " END QUOTE.
So you say Babylon is Rome ?
Preston the other protestant says it's NOT.
You protestants can't have it both way! lol.
Preston wrote QUOTE
"BABYLON IS RIGHT WHERE IT ALWAYS WAS. AND rome is where it is until He comes back. and then it will look worse than Gaza because no one will escape, I can see those old geezers as they lift up their garments and try to run.lol" END QUOTE
"How many times have we all heard
ignorant people claim that the “whore of
Babylon” mentioned in the book of
Revelation is the Vatican / Holy Catholic
Church? Way too many times. So who
or what is the whore of Babylon anyway?
In order to find out, Catholics should always refer to previous texts in the Bible, and never take a verse out of context. The Whore of Babylon is described in Revelation 17:1-18.
If you look at the very last line (verse 17) above, you will see that the Whore of Babylon is a “great city that has dominion over the Kings of the earth”. Now we all have to ask ourselves if the Vatican has any dominion over any Kings of the earth today. Well there aren’t that many Kings around anymore, for one thing, and even if you transpose the word “president” for “king”, it’s laughable to say that the Vatican has dominion over any president or ruler of a country today, with all of the legalized abortion, contraception, divorce and remarriage, etc., that is going on in most countries today. And in countries that do have Kings, like Saudi Arabia, certainly the Vatican has zero dominion over Muslim countries.
So which city is John talking about anyway? The 7 mountains that the Whore sits on with the 7 Kings gives us a clue.
The Vatican does not sit on one of the 7 hills of Rome, which are Aventine Hill,
Caelian Hill, Capitoline Hill, Esquiline Hill, Palatine Hill, Quirinal Hill, and Viminal Hill. Vatican Hill sits across the Tiber River from Ancient Rome.
http://www.catholicbible101.com/thewhoreofbab...
Has anyone else considered that the Whore of Babylon in Revelation is the New World Order ruled by the coming One World Government? The first attempt at One World Government was the tower of Babel.

Gen 11:1
And the earth was of one tongue, and of the same speech....And (the descendants of Noah) said Come, let us make a city and a tower, the top whereof may reach to heaven: and let us make our name famous before we be scattered abroad into all lands.

5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of Adam were building.

6 And he said: Behold, it is one people, and all have one tongue: and they have begun to do this, neither will they leave off from their designs, till they accomplish them in deed.

7 Come ye, therefore, let us go down, and there confound their tongue, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8 And so the Lord scattered them from that place into all lands, and they ceased to build the city.

9 And therefore the name thereof was called Babel, because there the language of the whole earth was confounded: and from thence the Lord scattered them abroad upon the face of all countries.

The powers and principalities have been at work since to attempt it again. See world events since WW1. See the UN and its tentacles and their programs. See the rise in technology.
See * especially * the transhumanism. The desire to attain eternal life by human endeavors, apart from Jesus Christ. Is this not the spirit of the AntiChrist?

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551110 Jul 23, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Newsflash - Gnostics didn't create any gods.
I have posted at least a dozen times for you how the Gnostics had their own images of gods and vilified the god of the Jews as being deceptive and vile.

I suggest you should go study what you preach before you preach it.

Does the word Demiurge mean anything to your Gnosticized mentality?
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Demiurge

The demiurge (/&#712;d&#603;mi& #716;&#604;rd&#658;/) is a concept from the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551111 Jul 23, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Those that were supposedly enlightened to your Brand of (so called) truth (the priest yet)
have been proven across the earth as predictors and ravening wolves...
Question if they can't be an example of a Christian as leaders of your religious system...
Why should any one want to follow their teaching.when the can't even live by them ...and they are your mentors
I can't see why any one in his right mind would .
"Predictors"... "ravening wolves".....?
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551112 Jul 23, 2014
bacon hater wrote:
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It's hush money. Families must agree to never speak of the torture their children endured at the hands of the church - no interviews, no books, no lawsuits, no seeking prosecution - in order to get their "reparations."
Admitting you're harboring child sex predators isn't exactly an absolution of guilt, is it?
Please cite a source to support your claim.

And also, please explain how there can be EVIL when there is no GOOD.

Also, please explain how it's a good idea to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551113 Jul 23, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> If Hell scares the kids so much then why isn't it a deterrent to crime?
Do you think it's a good idea to frighten children that hell and a devil and evil are REAL ... or do you think that it's better to teach them that life works to their benefit if they try to be as fair to others as they want others to be to them???

I knew children that would come home from church and wet their beds at night and have horrible night-tremors ... because they were terrified that their supposed SINS were being watched on candid camera by GOD.

Religion is a horrible addiction.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551114 Jul 23, 2014
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
To belong or volunteer at my churches requires a full backround check, ssn, the works.
They have tried to penetrate many times but non successful that I know.
Holiness preachers have tried, they are thrown out like the Bible says to do.
How many members at your church, if you don't mid me asking?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#551115 Jul 23, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I have posted at least a dozen times for you how the Gnostics had their own images of gods and vilified the god of the Jews as being deceptive and vile.
I suggest you should go study what you preach before you preach it.
Does the word Demiurge mean anything to your Gnosticized mentality?
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Demiurge
The demiurge (/&#712;d&#603;mi& #716;&#604;rd&#658;/) is a concept from the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge
"Does the word Demiurge mean anything to your Gnosticized mentality?"

It does - it is a term used by the Gnostics that explains that the Jewish God was an image of the "true god" - whereas the "true God" is "unknown" and "unnamed" in regards to what men can see and describe.

Is it a true statement? I don't know, as I've never seen any gods what-so-ever.

I don't believe gods exist in our world. So you again are making assumption about me that are untrue, and have already been explained to you multiple times - that no religion's gods are provable to exist.

"Robert F" calls it 'faith'....I call it synthetic thought produced by a person's mind - which is controlled by an individual...."Self" .

So, once again, you are incorrect in your theory and assertion.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551116 Jul 23, 2014
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
We have thousands of members, we train thousands for ministry across Iowa and the world.
So you know for a fact that nobody amongst all the thousands in your church abuses children?
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551117 Jul 23, 2014
USA Born wrote:
<quoted text>
There are many churches claiming to be the only true church and all others be damned. Nothing new under the sun.
What was meant by "only true church" was that the Catholic Church is the one which was established by Jesus. Meaning that in Her is the entire Deposit of Faith.
Other churches may have varying amounts of the Deposit of Faith, but not the entire Deposit.
So, why just have some when you could have it all?
That's what I don't get. Protestants act like the CC is literally satan when they have the CC to thank for their Bibles and their belief in the Trinity.
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551118 Jul 23, 2014
Michael wrote:
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...Cherry picks?? Today most catholics cherry pick. Most catholics decide going to Sunday mass is not for them. Most catholics use contraceptives, millions of catholics are divorced the church screams NO!!!! Most catholics and many priests/bishops want optional celibacy the church screams NO!!........and on and on.
.....I am sure catholics sit right beside you Evrey Sunday in church that don't follow all the doctrines. Cherry pickers.
....Cherry pick he says!!!...Hahahahahaha!
If they don't follow Catholic doctrines, then they are not Catholics. Period.
They are protestants and might as well find the nearest exit and head down the street for a church where they can feel nice and comfy in.

The CC is never going to just pull up Her anchor and "go with the flow" just because some "polls" indicate that "most" "Catholics" don't believe in Catholic doctrines!

Why are people still standing around expecting that to happen?
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551119 Jul 23, 2014
Holy dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
listen you full hate little miserable RCC rat,
attempts to ban me from those thread shows how evil,wicked,miserable hater and spiritual scumbag you are,
I return faster than you write 100 e-mails to Mod Topix,
you are simple RCC spiritual criminal,POS,hater others,and cyber coward
abomination of human Society with Mary statue in your a.....
Hell consume you and your RCC faster than you achieve any sucess to ban me or remove me from posting ugly truths about RCC,you and satanic christianity
3 times Hell with you
Ok, that's a new one: "satanic christianity"

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#551120 Jul 23, 2014
TRISTAN ESN wrote:
CHRIST ESTABLISHED ONLY ONE CHURCH
There is only one Church that the Lord Jesus Christ established. Matthew 16:18 says:
“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.”(Matthew 16:18 NIV)
The Lord Jesus Christ said,“I will build my CHURCH,” and not “I will build my CHURCHES.” How did the apostles prove that there is only one true Church established by Christ? In Ephesians 4:4-6, Apostle Paul says:
“There is one body and one Spirit- just as you were called to one hope when you were called- one Lord, one faith, one baptism.”(Ephesians 4:4-5 NIV)
The “body of Christ” Apostle Paul referring to is the Church:
“And he is the head of the body, the church...”(Colossians 1:18 NIV)
Thus, there is only one true Church of Christ with one spirit, one hope, one Lord, one faith and one baptism.
“SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD”
The Lord Jesus admonishes all those who want to attain eternal life or salvation to “seek first the kingdom of God”:
“But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.”(Matthew 6:33 NIV)
The “kingdom of God” the Lord Jesus Christ referring to is His “flock”(cf. Luke 12:32), also called the “kingdom of the Son” whom we have redemption through His blood:
“He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.”(Colossians 1:13-14 NKJV)
Who was redeemed through the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ? Acts 20:28 reads:
“Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock, over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with His blood.”(Lamsa).
Thus, the “kingdom” the Lord Jesus Christ admonishes us to seek first is the Church of Christ which He has purchased (redeemed) with His blood.
Please identify the church Christ referred to when He said "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.{Peter: this name signifies a rock}

And please don't be silly and say " The one He said He would build!!?
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#551121 Jul 23, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
And you are falsely misguided with your bible only anti-catholic man-made contradicting denomination beliefs that total more than 42,200 inconsistent and chaotic (personal interpretations) of the bible....
You wouldn't know what interpretation is correct because you don't read the Bible. It's how church leaders keep their lies and legends goiing . People like you will suck down anything if it somehow proves them superior. Your anti-scripture, ritual only beliefs have left you ignorant and judgemental of anyone who dares to read and study the scriptures. People like you will always feel the need to be superior to others in some form or another.

There is actually less than 42,000 non catholic denominations. But who cares. It does not mean that all these different denominations do not agree that.

Matthew 16:16 Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

No rituals or traditions needed.

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#551122 Jul 23, 2014
Chess wrote:
<quoted text>
When you get some truth rather than nonsense, let me know.
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Absolute truth....no nonsense...you got it!!! Here tis!!!

You cannot refute truth...but...keep on keeping on..

Now you know why I call you lying snake...

Not so....Requirements need to be met to be so guilty....Per your post. A requirement to be guilty is:"pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own". Never did...not guilty..

If I said "Here are my words" and then posted info from an article on the net...I would be guilty as charged...and it would be easy to prove...by you simply using your search engine...

That never happened and never will..

theft: 1.(Law) criminal law the dishonest taking of property belonging to another person with the intention of depriving the owner permanently of its possession..
Not guilty....

thief: a person who steals something from another

Not guilty...it never happened...

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#551123 Jul 23, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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For the same reason that members of the clergy molested and still molest children. Human nature will not BE denied its self-centered pleasures.
The only difference between humans and non-human animals is that humans by far are more manipulative.
An example is the USE of religion. Woman of religion (for instance) have abortions, yet go sit in the pews in churches pretending they would NEVER stoop so low as to have abortions. They want to "save FACE" ... not "GRACE."
The confessional was/is used a lot by the members of the mafia, and the members of Catholic clergy ... hoping in VAIN that Jesus would do for them what they could not or would not do for their selves.
We all want our scapegoats and religion (and YOUR favorite word "spirituality") is high on the list concerning scapegoating.
More BS coming from someone it took 70 years to " escape "
I think it's you hoping in vain June..
Hell is no more used as a scare tactic for children as it is for adults or the number of Christians would have dropped drastically as they became adults..
Yuns think a Christian becomes discouraged because atheist say there is no God.
I've been on this thread for pretty much a year now and I wonder how many converts you have compared to Christianity..
I SUGGEST very few..
you're nothing but a disgruntled OSAS Christian..
I SUGGEST they're very very few true atheist, meaning no religion whatsoever at or during anytime In their lives..

watch this clown

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#551124 Jul 23, 2014
Chess wrote:
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Of course you don't,'tard.
Their fathers abandoned them.

Give me the names of "their"...
USA Born

Claremont, CA

#551125 Jul 23, 2014
Just Sayin wrote:
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What was meant by "only true church" was that the Catholic Church is the one which was established by Jesus. Meaning that in Her is the entire Deposit of Faith.
Other churches may have varying amounts of the Deposit of Faith, but not the entire Deposit.
So, why just have some when you could have it all?
That's what I don't get. Protestants act like the CC is literally satan when they have the CC to thank for their Bibles and their belief in the Trinity.
It comes down to believeing the scriptures or believing the CC.

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

Galatians 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

Romans 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:

Can you show me how the scriptures and the teachings of the CC are in agreement here? It clearly says Paul took the Gospel to the gentiles.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#551126 Jul 23, 2014
Chess wrote:
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Incorrect.
M-W made no such determination. They could not. A fair use determination depends on the use for which the material is employed.
An advance determination is not possible.
Now you know why I call you a 'tard, eh,'tard?
No advance determination...their stand was/is based on them applying the law to their situation...logic says this came about from lawyers they hired to advise them...

Merriam-Webster have determined that by applying the law to their situation, their material is not fair use....that is why they say " All rights reserved. No part of the work embodied in Merriam-Webster's pages on the World Wide Web and covered by the copyrights hereon may be reproduced or copied in any form or by any means—graphic, electronic, or mechanical, including photocopying, taping, or information storage and retrieval systems—without the written permission of the publisher.

Requests for permission to use or reproduce should be mailed to: Permissions Editor, Merriam-Webster Inc., P.O. Box 281, Springfield, MA

You ain't got permission...

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#551127 Jul 23, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Why is materialism "random chaos"? Where did you get that idea from?
Hidingfromyou

I gave you an either/or situation, one in which the world is symmetric(super), or chaotic.

A materialist depends on matter, and matter is made up of atoms, protons, the basic standard model with the discovery of the Higgs particle, with its approximate weight.

Although theoretical physics more or less is at a crossroads between supersymmetry and chaos as the basis of matter, I was interested in which direction you lean?

Of course there is always a third unknown in this.....

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