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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 688571 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Jan 08

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#551091 Jul 23, 2014
USA Born wrote:
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There are many churches claiming to be the only true church and all others be damned. Nothing new under the sun.
marge just founded another [true church] that she and her husband belong to.

but if you choose to follow God and lead a Holy lifestyle, you aren't going to be welcomed.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#551092 Jul 23, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Yes of course ... Jesus and God adore you and will reject me to eternal hell.
There ... does that make you feel superior ... as is your desire???
spoken like a true roman/anti-crister!

please don't feed me to the lions just becuase i don't bow my knee to your caesar & humanist gods:-(

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#551093 Jul 23, 2014
Robert F wrote:
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Hidingfromyou
As a materialist, can you see beauty...., such as in a sunset, a painting, a poem, or symmetry? Or are you inclined to see things as the event of random chaos?
Why is materialism "random chaos"? Where did you get that idea from?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#551094 Jul 23, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Question ... What is the difference between an ordained minister and an ordained theologian???
Opinion # one ... The theologian is even more arrogant than the ordained minister.
Opinion # 2 ... There is no difference, as they are both arrogant and claim to know the one and only universal truth.
Opinion # 3 ... The minister was taught to believe he knows universal truth BY the theologian, and the theologian believes that he was inspired to know universal truth by a GOD.
Opinion # 4 ... They should both be exposed as liars for claiming to know universal truth.
question - what's the difference between June and any other God-hating fascist bigot who's ever walked the earth and persecuted the Jews and the Church?

answer - absolutely nothing!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#551095 Jul 23, 2014
Robert F wrote:
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Hidingfromyou
Peace
Convince me there is no argument, and I will agree,
But until then, I beg to differ, continue to disagree....
There is God, there is faith, all in defintions
Just as the universe has uncounted suns...
Peace
All deities are imagined beings. Sure, you really really believe in yours - just like every believer in every religion. Your religions are mutually exclusive. You and they both cannot be right. So you're stuck with these two choices:

- either only one religion is true and all other religions false
- or all religions are false

Given that humans evolved from animals, that not all human groups have religious systems (some don't believe in afterlives, some not in anything "supernatural"), that many religious systems are mutually exclusive, that all religions have equal evidence to their claims - that is to say, none whatsoever - that none of us have access to objective reality and that all people experience subjective realities, that "how to interact with and understand the world around us" differs culturally and throughout history, it's most likely all religions are false and no deities exist.

You are welcome to believe that your religion is, against all odds, the "one true religion," but nothing could be more arrogant, presumptuous, ethnocentric, conceited, unempathetic and infantile. Where did you get this special knowledge?

Not from spirituality - other religions have spiritual experiences and atheists can, too.

Not from miracles - other religions have miracles.

Not from prophecy - other religions have prophecy and fulfilled prophecy.

So your certainty that you are correct exists simply because of your enculturation into your religion and production and reproduction of your lived subjective reality.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#551096 Jul 23, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Now it's your turn ... God sent his son to earth to save only Catholics.
Next turn is for a Protestant to feel special.
SEE ... Catholics and Protestants can learn to take turns. It just takes practice and soon you will be perfect.
:)
However ... don't expect New Age Spiritual Leader to take turns, because he has a god that the Gnostics created in their own image. They don't have to share the same god that you and the Protestants share ... or put another way ... don't WANT to share.
Newsflash - Gnostics didn't create any gods.....and please post the source of your statement that "Gnostics don't want to share".....that is untrue.

But since you think ruffling others feathers is the way to approach any topic -- to give you heads-up....you failed here.

Bummer for you.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#551097 Jul 23, 2014
hojo wrote:
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Typical bible only Protestant " fundie" response from one who "cherry picks" a few select bible verses, then interprets ( or better yet Misinterpret ) these verses to make them mean "ONLY" what you want them to mean---inserting the word Catholic (wherever ans whenever )!they neatly fit into you anti-catholic distorted agenda.......Your inconsistent and contradicting (other) 42,200 hodge-podge of MAN-MADE denominations are as confused and chaotic as it gets in the Protestant half-truth , half-heresy pot of propaganda........You fundies " conveniently and on purpose" overlook Paul's command in I Timothy 3:15 where he calls THE CHURCH--------(Not) the bible alone is the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH ...Your 21st century "make-it-up-as-you-go man-made doctrines of (bible waiving) self proclaimed ministers have no authority to preach to ANYONE about ANYTHING when it comres to the TRUTH of the TRUE Interpretation of the Bible!!!....
Seems to me they do more than cherry pick ..especially GIF...on any subject ..it's enlightening .

I just got a new bible that was Chronological..very interesting especially for the OT, seeing the order things happened..lot of timelines and other information...
Unfortunately not large print

http://www.amazon.com/Chronological-Life-Appl...

Anyway HOJO ..just a thought.....your first Church was either horrid as you seem to hate it, despite that it taught you love for Christ ....I am grateful for what the nuns taught me about Him
And I don't hate the RCC.
....the
Non Catholic churches I went to didn't mention CATHOLICS at all, except a few questions to me personally by a few,people, and no one put it down...I am really dumbfounded by what you say about whatever Church you were in

I know,folks,on this board don't like the RCC but it's topix and the headline attracts it , I guess.

But I never heard a,sermon that even mentioned Catholics, even the ones I wAtch on TV ..so I can't imagine from your posts what on earth services you went to ...I'm really curious.
Do your old friends throw,rocks,at you for now being Catholic? Do you constantly repeat your set phrases,AT THEM ...or is it just here you have no respect for others,who believe .
35 years is among time to stay among hateful folk ...it's puzzling ....again only going by your posts you really hate that Church ...
LTM

Elliot Lake, Canada

#551098 Jul 23, 2014
marge wrote:
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We have thousands of members, we train thousands for ministry across Iowa and the world.
marge wrote:

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To belong or volunteer at my churches requires a full backround check, ssn, the works.
They have tried to penetrate many times but non successful that I know.

TRAIN THEM TO DO WHAT MARGE??? WOW I DON'T THINK I WOULD LIKE YOUR CHURCH TO MUCH.
I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO A CHURCH, THAT ISN'T INTERESTED IN WINNING SOULS FOR CHURCH.
PEOPLE ARE NOT SAVED BY A CHURCH,
THEY ARE SANCTIFIED, MADE WHOLE UNTO RIGHTIOUSNESS THE BLOOD OF IST
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551099 Jul 23, 2014
Michael wrote:
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..,Bible Only!....Bible Only!...He continually BELLOWS!!
....He talks about the bible in a negative way that it just doesn't meet the requirements to be worthy of the one true catholic church.
....If hojo is staking his life on cannon laws and rules/regulations that former popes instituted .....God help him. Many of the popes in history have a checkered past.
Many losers have based their hope on and around the bible as being the center of their "universe."

HUGE mistake!

Investment in those words lead many people to commit insane behavior.
LTM

Elliot Lake, Canada

#551100 Jul 23, 2014
MARGE CONT:

BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST;
YOUR CHURCH WANTS THEM TO RUN, A BACKGROUND CHECK ON A PERSON BEFORE THEY ARE WELCOME.

JESUS SAYS COME AS YOU ARE,. YOUR MAKING CONDITIONS FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO CHRIST, BEFORE THEY EVEN ENTER YOUR CHURCH. WOW.
MUST BE NICE TO THINK YOU ARE SO PERFECT TO BELONG TO YOUR CHURCH. sad :(
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551101 Jul 23, 2014
Michael wrote:
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...I don't do drugs.
Religion is one of the worst drugs to even infect humans.

Emotions become pulled into the insanity without those who invested their faith even being aware.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551102 Jul 23, 2014
Michael wrote:
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...Cherry picks?? Today most catholics cherry pick.
More often than not people in religion cherry pick in the attitude of ... "I know universal truth, and when you disagree with me, it is because you are misguided and most certainly lead by the devil."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551103 Jul 23, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
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We have no problem understanding what evil is how egocentric and ungodly it is and why it should be avoided
If a REAL holy god existed ... it wouldn't know the meaning of the word evil, as it would have nothing but love to go by.

Do you GET that concept???

The fact that you recognize evil is a very bad sign indeed! It could mean that the devil is in you and won't set you free to allow you to see beyond the evil.

Just spoofing you.

I wish you peace and I comprehend that you won't find it by believing in the existence of a devil and evil.

Since: Feb 14

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#551104 Jul 23, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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Atheists have never used religion to earn money. Atheists have never pretended to know that gods exist to favor only those in their group of believers. Atheists have killed others but they don't say that a god ordained the killing. Atheists have never used religious literature to frighten children that a god will reject them to hell if they are "EVIL."
You have religion, but I don't perceive that you are a person with integrity. You keep insisting that Catholics deserve eternal hell. You see EVIL all around you ... but not IN you.
I feel whole just as I am ... and try as you might to suck the life out of me to bolster your own inadequacies ... it ain't gonna happen.
If Hell scares the kids so much then why isn't it a deterrent to crime?
I SUGGEST it's because you're full of BS and will say anything In denial..
I SUGGEST YUNS are doing nothing but trying to convince yourself, if it took you 70 years to come to the conclusion you're at now then I SUGGEST that you're really a LIAR and full of BS!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551105 Jul 23, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Explain your interpretations of it, and why yours is authoritative?
All people who interpret words are certain that the way they interpreted the words, ARE authoritative.

Martin Luther used the same words in the same bible as the popes ... and came to a totally new conclusion about what the words meant to HIM ... and therefore should mean to all other people of the world.

EGO RULES SUPREME!

It's not SAFE to allow brain-cells access to religious literature. The humans that ingest the words into brains become as stupefied as the ones that wrote the words.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551106 Jul 23, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> If Hell scares the kids so much then why isn't it a deterrent to crime?
For the same reason that members of the clergy molested and still molest children. Human nature will not BE denied its self-centered pleasures.

The only difference between humans and non-human animals is that humans by far are more manipulative.

An example is the USE of religion. Woman of religion (for instance) have abortions, yet go sit in the pews in churches pretending they would NEVER stoop so low as to have abortions. They want to "save FACE" ... not "GRACE."

The confessional was/is used a lot by the members of the mafia, and the members of Catholic clergy ... hoping in VAIN that Jesus would do for them what they could not or would not do for their selves.

We all want our scapegoats and religion (and YOUR favorite word "spirituality") is high on the list concerning scapegoating.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551107 Jul 23, 2014
LTM wrote:
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I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO A CHURCH, THAT ISN'T INTERESTED IN WINNING SOULS FOR CHURCH.
Jews were and are interested in the Jewish Temples as being the only source of universal truth.

Will you deny them their PLEASURES ... as have so VERY many other Christians???
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551108 Jul 23, 2014
LTM wrote:
BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST;
If Jesus actually lived and in turn died a tortuous death, it was because he vilified Judaism and mocked it as vile. The faithful Jews would have WANTED him to die a horrible death.

That would have been justified ... under all religious protocol of that era.

"Don't leave our religion for another religion ... or you will die ... you TRAITOR!!!"
Just Sayin

Nashville, TN

#551109 Jul 23, 2014
StarC wrote:
Sniped for space...
Are u sure you know what you are typing????
From your post above ....too funny, is this from a catholic site??? lol
"Therefore, the "wh--- of Babylon" cannot refer exclusively to Rome. Revelation 17:15 " END QUOTE.
So you say Babylon is Rome ?
Preston the other protestant says it's NOT.
You protestants can't have it both way! lol.
Preston wrote QUOTE
"BABYLON IS RIGHT WHERE IT ALWAYS WAS. AND rome is where it is until He comes back. and then it will look worse than Gaza because no one will escape, I can see those old geezers as they lift up their garments and try to run.lol" END QUOTE
"How many times have we all heard
ignorant people claim that the “whore of
Babylon” mentioned in the book of
Revelation is the Vatican / Holy Catholic
Church? Way too many times. So who
or what is the whore of Babylon anyway?
In order to find out, Catholics should always refer to previous texts in the Bible, and never take a verse out of context. The Whore of Babylon is described in Revelation 17:1-18.
If you look at the very last line (verse 17) above, you will see that the Whore of Babylon is a “great city that has dominion over the Kings of the earth”. Now we all have to ask ourselves if the Vatican has any dominion over any Kings of the earth today. Well there aren’t that many Kings around anymore, for one thing, and even if you transpose the word “president” for “king”, it’s laughable to say that the Vatican has dominion over any president or ruler of a country today, with all of the legalized abortion, contraception, divorce and remarriage, etc., that is going on in most countries today. And in countries that do have Kings, like Saudi Arabia, certainly the Vatican has zero dominion over Muslim countries.
So which city is John talking about anyway? The 7 mountains that the Whore sits on with the 7 Kings gives us a clue.
The Vatican does not sit on one of the 7 hills of Rome, which are Aventine Hill,
Caelian Hill, Capitoline Hill, Esquiline Hill, Palatine Hill, Quirinal Hill, and Viminal Hill. Vatican Hill sits across the Tiber River from Ancient Rome.
http://www.catholicbible101.com/thewhoreofbab...
Has anyone else considered that the Whore of Babylon in Revelation is the New World Order ruled by the coming One World Government? The first attempt at One World Government was the tower of Babel.

Gen 11:1
And the earth was of one tongue, and of the same speech....And (the descendants of Noah) said Come, let us make a city and a tower, the top whereof may reach to heaven: and let us make our name famous before we be scattered abroad into all lands.

5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of Adam were building.

6 And he said: Behold, it is one people, and all have one tongue: and they have begun to do this, neither will they leave off from their designs, till they accomplish them in deed.

7 Come ye, therefore, let us go down, and there confound their tongue, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8 And so the Lord scattered them from that place into all lands, and they ceased to build the city.

9 And therefore the name thereof was called Babel, because there the language of the whole earth was confounded: and from thence the Lord scattered them abroad upon the face of all countries.

The powers and principalities have been at work since to attempt it again. See world events since WW1. See the UN and its tentacles and their programs. See the rise in technology.
See * especially * the transhumanism. The desire to attain eternal life by human endeavors, apart from Jesus Christ. Is this not the spirit of the AntiChrist?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#551110 Jul 23, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Newsflash - Gnostics didn't create any gods.
I have posted at least a dozen times for you how the Gnostics had their own images of gods and vilified the god of the Jews as being deceptive and vile.

I suggest you should go study what you preach before you preach it.

Does the word Demiurge mean anything to your Gnosticized mentality?
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Demiurge

The demiurge (/&#712;d&#603;mi& #716;&#604;rd&#658;/) is a concept from the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy for an artisan-like figure responsible for the fashioning and maintenance of the physical universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

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