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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 683635 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547698 Jul 5, 2014
Many Gnostic are polytheists that believe in reincarnation.

They refer to that as secret knowledge ... even "though" the secret is OUT.
>>>>>>> >

Gnostic beliefs

Gnostics also believe in lesser gods subservient to the omnipotent Christian god.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and...

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#547699 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
That was the message from the Jews that were faithful to Judaism.
You are determined to steal the thunder from those Jews with your Protestant DRIVEL!
June, it's not about their Religion of Judaism, it was their " Evil" practicing that they didn't wanna turn away from..
Of Whom do you think Jesus was speaking out against?
It wasn't the Religion of Judaism, but of the High Priest and using " God" " Den Of Vipers"
He was the " Savoir" of All..
He didn't turn his Back on Judaism..
Jesus was faithful to Judaism..
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547700 Jul 5, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> June, it's not about their Religion of Judaism, it was their " Evil" practicing that they didn't wanna turn away from..
..
It's the same story CON-veniently told by the Protestants.

"Jesus would NEVER consider being associated with Catholics ... because the Catholics were and are far too evil. That is why Jesus waited for the Protestants to arrive on earth to bestow on them the one and only universal truth."

And you have your own personalized story. Jesus doesn't approve of any religion. He travels lite in spirit with you wherever you choose to take him.

Silly indoctrinations for silly people.

By the way, which "God" do you believe is Jesus' real father???

OH never mind ... No matter which title you "hang" on him ... he LOVES your HOLY spirit that is aligned to his HOLY spirit.

BWAAAGGHHH!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547701 Jul 5, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Jesus was faithful to Judaism..
You really do need a brush-up on common sense.

According to ALL Christian theology ... Jesus left his position as a Jewish rabbi ... beause he thought that Judaism AND the Jews were VILE ... period!!!

Within the theology ... had he placed any value on Judaism, he would have corrected the wayward Jews such as the first Catholics and Gnostic Christians and said ... "Come to me and learn how HOLY Judaism can BE in its true ESSENSE."

But because the Jesus-myth was created by the Catholics ... the story WENT that Jesus wanted the Jews slayed for not joining the Catholic religion as did Jesus.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#547702 Jul 5, 2014
marge wrote:
Hey Ltm big sister, do you really believe your loved ones who received Jesus could loose their Salvation and go to h'll?
Is this something you worry about?
Does the person who loses their Salvation Know it?
We need to clear up this issue to proceed in fruitful preaching.
My 2 cents... marge,
If a person does not recognize a sin, he is in denial of Christ's teachings.

"We recognize that Jesus Christ died on the Cross for our sins and thus "opened the gates of Heaven," and that salvation is a free gift which no amount of human good deeds could ever earn. Catholics receive Christ's saving and sanctifying grace, and Christ Himself, into their souls when they are baptized. Yet they also know that Christ has established certain conditions for entry into eternal

happiness in Heaven – for example,

receiving His true Flesh and Blood (John

6:54) and keeping the commandments

(Matt. 19:17). If a Christian refuses or

neglects to obey Our Lord's commands

in a grave matter (that is, if he commits a mortal sin), Our Lord will not remain dwelling in his soul; and if a Christian dies in that state, having driven his Lord from his soul by serious sin, he will not be saved. As St. Paul warned the Galatians with regard to certain sins:

"They who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God." (Gal. 5:21).

It must be added that Christ will always forgive and return to a sinner who approaches Him with sincerity in the Sacrament of Penance.

Catholics follow St. Paul, who did not think that his salvation was guaranteed once and for all at the moment he first received Christ into his soul; for he wrote: "I chastise my body, and bring it into subjection: lest perhaps, when I have preached to others, I myself should become a castaway." (I Cor. 9:27).

Also: "With fear and trembling work out your salvation. For it is God who

worketh in you..." (Phil. 2:12-13). "And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required." (Luke 12:48).

"He that shall persevere unto the end, he shall be saved." (Matt. 10:22). Nevertheless, Catholics realize that even the fulfilling of Our Lord's requirements

for salvation is impossible without the free gift of His grace."
Michael

Canada

#547703 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
because Catholics wanted to start their own religion totally foreign from Judaism.
They turned the Jewish Passover into the Catholic Eucharist without so much as a backward glance.
Catholics were thieves.
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To the Christian disciples of the first century the conception of Jesus as Rabbi was self-evident, to the Christian disciples of the second century it was embarrassing, to the Christian disciples of the third century and beyond it was obscure.
The beginnings of this de-Judaization of Christianity are visible already within the New Testament.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows ...
....Exactly,........how could 12 devout Jewish apostles be celebrating anything but a Jewish custom/tradition. Passover.

......Christianity at that point had yet to be invented.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#547704 Jul 5, 2014
Just a curious observation for those anti-intellectual protestant evangelical fundamentalists here who deny the early Church was Catholic;

Why do resident atheists here (and universally I assume) who are absolutely no friends to the Catholic Church (in fact they detest it more than most Christian communities), insist that history proves the Catholic Church was there from the beginning and that protestantism and protestant denominationalism were non-existent until the reformation?

Why possible reason would there be for them to side with the Catholics on this issue?

Why is it they can face the reality of historical proofs and evangelical fundamentalists can't?

What is it about evangelical fundamentalism that forces folks to deny history and /or refuse to study it?
Patriot

Denver, CO

#547705 Jul 5, 2014
FYI World

The following video explains some of the hidden (in plain sight) meanings of the messages 'they' send to one another. But what struck me at the 22:33 mark is his suspicion that the immigrant children that have been brought illegally into our country might be used for ritual sacrifice.

&fe ature=youtu.be. http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-11.htm

Share to "Expose" and hopefully STOP this Satanic madness from happening.

----

Pope Francis raped, killed children; Witnesses testify, eyewitnesses confirm….

Five judges and 27 jury members from six countries including the USA, considered evidence on over 50,000 missing Canadian, US, Argentine and European children who were suspected victims of an international child sacrificial cult referred to as the Ninth Circle.

Read more at http://alternative-news.tk/blog/pope-francis-...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547706 Jul 5, 2014
Within the wacky Catholic theology, if Jesus was born without original sin as a Jew ... why was he later as a Jewish rabbi cleansed by the Catholics of Judaizing disease???

The lies are in plain view for those who want to see.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

About.com Catholicism

Christ's Baptism Foreshadows Our Own:

At first glance, the Baptism of the Lord might seem an odd feast. Since the Catholic Church teaches that the Sacrament of Baptism is necessary for the remission of sins, particularly Original Sin, why was Christ baptized? After all, He was born without Original Sin, and He lived His entire life without sinning. Therefore, He had no need of the sacrament, as we do.

In submitting Himself humbly to the baptism of St. John the Baptist, however, Christ provided the example for the rest of us. If even He should be baptized, though He had no need of it, how much more should the rest of us be thankful for this sacrament, which frees us from the darkness of sin and incorporates us into the Church, the life of Christ on earth! His Baptism, therefore, was necessary--not for Him, but for us.

Many of the Fathers of the Church, as well as the medieval Scholastics, saw Christ's Baptism as the institution of the sacrament.

http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydaysandho...

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#547707 Jul 5, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
WHY WAS IT THAT YOUR POPE
DID NOT SEE A BURNING BUSH AS MOSES DID?

NOT LIVE
BY THE BIBLE THAT YOU CLAIM YOU WROTE?
It's YOU
that does not live by Bible teachings, when was the last time you had Holy Communion? As Jesus ordered!!!????

Our first Pope, Peter was present when God sent the Holy Spirit ..... On the day of the Pentecost, when our Church started.

Acts 2:1-47

When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven.

Acts 2:1
When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place.
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#547708 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Had the Catholics created their own personalized god rather than trying to steal the emotions of the Jewish god, they might have set a precedence for the Muslims and the Protestants to also create their own images of gods.
Instead, all of the dumbed-down factions tortured, and killed each other over who the one god loved.
And to this day they keep on with the insanity in the name of universal LOVE.
GOOD {{{"GRIEF!!!"}}}
June,

What made you come to the conclusion the the Catholics were the first Christians? As a non-believer (and since you reject all religion the charge can't be made that you are partial to Catholicism over protestantism), there must be some body of evidence that caused you, a self-professed realist, to conclude that the Catholic Church was the first Christian Church.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547709 Jul 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
....Exactly,........how could 12 devout Jewish apostles be celebrating anything but a Jewish custom/tradition. Passover.
......Christianity at that point had yet to be invented.
There WERE no Jewish apostles to recommend Christianity as the upcoming religion.

That was all ex-Jew Catholic lies.

Imagine such a stretch of imagination ... claiming that John the Jew of the old testament hundreds of years later landed as a Catholic saint in the new testament.

That's comparable to claiming that the Jesus of the new testament landed hundreds of years later as a Mormon saint in Joseph Smith's "Restored gospel of universal truth.".

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#547710 Jul 5, 2014
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
....Exactly,........how could 12 devout Jewish apostles be celebrating anything but a Jewish custom/tradition. Passover.
......Christianity at that point had yet to be invented.
Duh! If they were apostles.... They were already following their Savior, Jesus!
Christ=Savior following Christ = Christian !!!!

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#547711 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
It's the same story CON-veniently told by the Protestants.
"Jesus would NEVER consider being associated with Catholics ... because the Catholics were and are far too evil. That is why Jesus waited for the Protestants to arrive on earth to bestow on them the one and only universal truth."
And you have your own personalized story. Jesus doesn't approve of any religion. He travels lite in spirit with you wherever you choose to take him.
Silly indoctrinations for silly people.
By the way, which "God" do you believe is Jesus' real father???
OH never mind ... No matter which title you "hang" on him ... he LOVES your HOLY spirit that is aligned to his HOLY spirit.
BWAAAGGHHH!!!
Jesus practiced Judaism. He preached and Taught about Freedom from ALL RELIGIONS. Religion was Bondage unto self, SELF is where you had to be Free..
He didn't practice Catholicism. He wasn't Catholic..
Kingdom Of God/Heaven is within you..
you're twisting comprehension..
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547712 Jul 5, 2014
StarC wrote:
As Jesus ordered!!!????
Jesus was ordered by the Catholics to exist so they could create and LEAD a new kingdom on earth.

They are one of the wealthiest businesses EVER!!!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >

The Incredible Book of Vatican Facts and Papal Curiosities … A treasury of Trivia, by Nino Lo Bello~ Published 1998.

How rich is the Vatican?

As one cardinal’s aide quipped not long ago,“The Vatican should truly be judged by the companies it keeps.”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#547713 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
So when Jesus chose to leave Judaism as being a VILE religion ... was he then without any religion???
The Catholics compiled the new testament to impress upon others that Jesus chose Catholicism as his new and ONLY HOLY religion.
That you don't GET that concept is your problem.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>
Athanasian Creed
1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith
What source supports "So when Jesus chose to leave Judaism as being a VILE religion"?

The Bible is the result of the Holy Spirit inspiring men to write Scripture...none of which were Catholics...because there were no Catholics until about 400 years after Christ ascended..

The Athanasian Creed says in part "Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith" which is a lie per Scripture...

Quote:
But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#547714 Jul 5, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
Within the wacky Catholic theology, if Jesus was born without original sin as a Jew ... why was he later as a Jewish rabbi cleansed by the Catholics of Judaizing disease???
The lies are in plain view for those who want to see.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>
About.com Catholicism
Christ's Baptism Foreshadows Our Own:
At first glance, the Baptism of the Lord might seem an odd feast. Since the Catholic Church teaches that the Sacrament of Baptism is necessary for the remission of sins, particularly Original Sin, why was Christ baptized? After all, He was born without Original Sin, and He lived His entire life without sinning. Therefore, He had no need of the sacrament, as we do.
In submitting Himself humbly to the baptism of St. John the Baptist, however, Christ provided the example for the rest of us. If even He should be baptized, though He had no need of it, how much more should the rest of us be thankful for this sacrament, which frees us from the darkness of sin and incorporates us into the Church, the life of Christ on earth! His Baptism, therefore, was necessary--not for Him, but for us.
Many of the Fathers of the Church, as well as the medieval Scholastics, saw Christ's Baptism as the institution of the sacrament.
http://catholicism.about.com/od/holydaysandho...
Hi June bug,
Did u have a B-day in June..? Is that why ur name is June?
How old, 100? lol- Meow!!!!

June from ur link... The answer is there.

"In submitting Himself humbly to the baptism of St. John the Baptist, however, Christ provided the example for the rest of us. If even He should be baptized, though He had no need of it, how much more should the rest of us be thankful for this sacrament, which frees us from the darkness of sin and incorporates us into the Church, the life of Christ on earth! His Baptism, therefore, was necessary--not for Him, but for us."
Anthony MN

Champlin, MN

#547715 Jul 5, 2014
Patriot wrote:
FYI World
The following video explains some of the hidden (in plain sight) meanings of the messages 'they' send to one another. But what struck me at the 22:33 mark is his suspicion that the immigrant children that have been brought illegally into our country might be used for ritual sacrifice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =NhPHWhTzeQwXX&feature=you tu.be. http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-11.htm
Share to "Expose" and hopefully STOP this Satanic madness from happening.
----
Pope Francis raped, killed children; Witnesses testify, eyewitnesses confirm….
Five judges and 27 jury members from six countries including the USA, considered evidence on over 50,000 missing Canadian, US, Argentine and European children who were suspected victims of an international child sacrificial cult referred to as the Ninth Circle.
Read more at http://alternative-news.tk/blog/pope-francis-...
Is it just coincidence that every search for the original source of this article from "the examiner" comes up empty?

Troll.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547716 Jul 5, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
June,
What made you come to the conclusion the the Catholics were the first Christians?
I've already explained that many times.

Are you now arguing that they were NOT the first Christians???

Maybe you forgot which thread you are on.

"Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican"
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#547717 Jul 5, 2014
StarC wrote:
<quoted text>
If they were apostles.... They were already following their Savior, Jesus!
Jews follow Jews ... they don't follow Catholics.

If you have any doubt about that issue ... ask the Jews in Israel if any of them converted to Catholicism because your pope "visited" them.

I suggest they will tell you that they were not impressed by his religion OR his "visit."

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