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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#543348 Jun 10, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe if you become a Wiccan you can worship a goddess that loves everybody.
That will "save you" from having to believe that the Abrahamic God will reject you to Gehenna for not being faithful to Judaism.
And at last you will know universal peace.
FYI there are no "goddess" there is only One God!
Where is your peace? Stop the hate now for real peace in God alone.

Man-made religions are fake.... Why don't you start a new one with a cat god... LOL
^--^ meow, meow, meow.! Lets see where that will get you.:D.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#543349 Jun 10, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
I also own a KJV bible, given to me by my Lutheran mother ... but I never believed that reading the words would make me wise. With good reason, I was very suspicious of men who would write such nonsense in a bible.
I understood that their AIM was to get me to invest in their specific Protestant CULT.
June

Ah, but is that an excuse for as you say, " I never believed that reading the words would make me wise." So you don't want to become anything better than yourself.

You have proven your point. You are not wise.

You are clever with thoughts and knowledge, but not wise....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#543350 Jun 10, 2014
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Actually June you know what would be great, that someday I come back on this thread after being busy with my life,and deciding to visit,and ALL I see for countless pages is JuneVanderMark,having arguments with herself,because she succeeded in driving everyone else off of this thread.Than GrDxM can come on to applaud your success.I noticed once again that you are the predominant one on the last page,only my responses to you.
Pad

Peace

June and Gods r Delusions are good for just one liners on this thread. They could take hours of a person's time spent elsewhere, and on better things. They make superficial remarks as a distraction, which may be their entire goal....distraction.(I have not made up my mind on that.)
I think the distraction leads to curiosity. It has become a source of repetition, to which even they may grow tired of, let alone the listener.

Peace
Pad

Rockford, IL

#543351 Jun 10, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
I won't be patronizing this business.
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
Would you like your fried chicken with a side of homophobia? That's what's on offer at the Calgary International Airport, where notoriously anti-gay restaurant Chick-fil-A has just opened its first Canadian branch.
The fervently Christian American company donated nearly $2 million to anti-gay organizations in 2010, with a particular focus on lobbying against equal marriage. In 2012 its CEO Dan T. Cathy owned up to being 'guilty as charged'. He openly condemned those who “have the audacity to define what marriage is about,” saying they were “inviting God’s judgment on our nation.”
Chick-fil-A has been beset with boycotts and protests ever since, but this hasn't stopped it planning to expand into 108 new locations this year - including Canada.
http://action.sumofus.org/a/canada-chick-fil-...
Food is food June,no matter who prepares it.So if people want to patronize that outfit,may they enjoy what they eat.I know that the owners will not stand by the register and espouse their sentiments to whether gays should be allowed to eat there or not.

Many gays patronize Christian enterprises in my city,and the Christians do not give them pamphlets condemning the lifestyle of the gay. The gay goes into the place,buys whatever it offers,and goes home.No one besieges them,or asks their preference to sexual desire. The Christians so not spend anytime trying to make the gay feel uncomfortable while they are in their business venture. It is a very well known fact that gays are seeking out places where they can stir up anti-sentiment against their cause,so they can make a public nuisance of that endeavor,and see them closed by public outrage to protect gays sexual freedom at all cost.That is a fact!

Gays are at war with society,they want NOW to have every recognition of who and what they are no matter what the outcome. Some act like bitter children who were punished for being brats,and some do act respectfully no doubt.But the truth be known gays are a special interest group that want total access to every aspect of life demanding that society see them as NORMAL and whatever they do as legitimate "to hell" with everyone else,and that is painfully obvious June.We see it all the time in our country, I know you are from Canada.

Human rights have been well used up by gays,and they are not living in abject poverty in this nation.They have every advantage,many having wonderful jobs,and are treated with respect. I eat lunch with a gay man everyday at work,if I was so anti-gay as you might want me to be so it confirms your bias,I would have long rejected the man,and have nothing to do with him.But that is just not the case.

I have to go to work,so have a nice day. Go enjoy a chicken-fil'A,and don't worry about homophobia.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#543352 Jun 10, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Pad
Peace
June and Gods r Delusions are good for just one liners on this thread. They could take hours of a person's time spent elsewhere, and on better things. They make superficial remarks as a distraction, which may be their entire goal....distraction.(I have not made up my mind on that.)
I think the distraction leads to curiosity. It has become a source of repetition, to which even they may grow tired of, let alone the listener.
Peace
Thank you Robert,I could not have put it better myself,but at times I will pour on some thought provoking garble on to them as it may seem repetitive also, but they can know that being Christian is not being brain dead,with one-liners either.

“Happy 2016!!”

Since: Apr 08

Saint Teresa Pray 4 Us.

#543353 Jun 10, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
There … I read Star C’s post again.
Does that make you happy???
Now will you answer my question?
Why do you suppose the Lord creates evil???
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>
Isaiah 45:7 KJV
King James Version
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Hi June bug,

God creates evil for the sake of greater good.**
Ever notice when people are doing evil and they reach bottom, & become "good."
They Return to God.
(Except in your case, lol,or not)

Is 45:
5
I am the LORD, there is no other,
there is no God besides me.
It is I who arm you,

though you

do not

know me,

6
so that all may know, from the rising of the sun
to its setting, that there is none besides me.*
I am the LORD, there is no other.
7
I form the light, and create the darkness,

I make weal and create woe;**

I, the LORD, do all these things.
atemcowboy

Van Wert, OH

#543354 Jun 10, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston
I don't recall any scripture that Mary was put to sleep. Is this another opinion of yours?
(Of course we know your opinion is that Jesus was put inside Mary's womb as an embryo, and it is not scriptural....)
I did not know there was a prerequisite of Mary being asleep, according to you. Can you explain this?
I think God would desire Mary to be awake at such a time(my opinion), just as any born-again adult would be awake when accepting Jesus Christ...
Overshaowing DOES NOT mean that she got pregnant by that experience.

so let me ask you ask a question.

could you have been able to stayed awake while God was doing this to you?

could Adam have stayed awake while God was surgically removing a rib from his body.

if you weren't such a flake, you could understand very easily what occurs in the Word of God.

people like you run hither and thither trying to comprehend His Word, while that same Word says it is so Simple to find and walk on that road, that even a blind man can find it and Walk on it. where then, does that leave a person like you? a man who claims to be a catholic one day, next week, he is a protestant(Yet Never Saved by the Blood), and then down the road, he is an atheist.

and for those very reasons, it is easy to call YOU a flake. A person like you cant escape your past, UNLESS you become Born Again by His Blood, and Thanks be unto God, even you can be Saved, and then we would accept you into His Kingdom with no qualms whatsoever.

Even Judas could have been Saved if he had Repented to God, not to the Sanhedrin, they like your catholic church, can not save anyone. so there is hope for you, unless, like Judas, in your sudden change of moods, take your own life.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543355 Jun 10, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>only the Jews deny the Birth of Jesus(well no they don't). I know she got Pregnant but not because of the "overshadowing". that like I said, was only the Beginning of that Experience.
now getting back to Robert, you yourself proved him wrong about that word, but even a fool with a Bible concordance could easily have done that, so that in and of itself wasn't no big deal.
I don't have a clue as to WHY the flake said what he said, but he does it often, to often to be taken seriously as an intelligent person. Robert tries to make people think that he is smart and even the catholics fell for it for awhile until he left their religion a month or two ago, just like he has done several times in the past.
the Bible says that "is an unstable person", and unstable person has mental facilities that needs to addressed, not to consider him as a smart person, but why should I consider YOU smart enough to figure that out.
You have proven yourself a liar..

You first say: how many times do I have to tell you that it doesn't have anything to do with a person getting pregnant,

Now you say: I know she got Pregnant but not because of the "overshadowing"..

And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

She gave birth to Jesus Christ because The Holy Ghost came upon her, and the power of the Highest overshadowed her.

Gospel truth from Scripture which you deny....

Every time you claim to be a man called of God you are calling God a liar.....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#543356 Jun 10, 2014
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you Robert,I could not have put it better myself,but at times I will pour on some thought provoking garble on to them as it may seem repetitive also, but they can know that being Christian is not being brain dead,with one-liners either.
Pad

I agree. At times certain people on the thread can spring others into deeper thoughts. So I don't dismiss anyone out of hand.

The linkage between understanding and knowing a scripture may at times be tenuous, but I think with time, those patient and persistant enough to know, have already asked, sought, and knocked.

So you are right that there are times to present a well rounded case, if not only for oneself, but for others to share....
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543357 Jun 10, 2014
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>You think I don't know that (peace and love) your god is the Internet! I know that my thoughts and sharings here are futile,I have not YET been assimilated if that is what you are saying. The BORG will probably throw me out into outer space.
What converts do you have to boast of? Is sweet June your colleague,or are you a student of her's? You both have a savior complex. You are trying so hard to diffuse us religious zealots from our lost condition of faith,good luck!
As for Jesus being a fanatic,HARDLY.If He were a fanatic He would have called 10,000 angels to destroy the world,but He instead laid down His life for you and for me,so that in reality our arguments to have substance,it is your decision to either receive Him or reject Him,and I already have made my decision long time ago,I received Him!
Again, you totally miss the point.

You claim to know the mind of God. So much so that you are qualified to tell Catholics why they are wrong. Of course they in turn KNOW the mind of God, so they believe they are qualified to tell you that you are wrong.

Martin Luther was not trying to sound silly when he wrote that "reason should be destroyed in all Christians."

Because he KNEW like you, many Jews and other innocents were killed.

People like you who KNEW killed thousands of supposed witches.

Do you believe witches should be killed? Or were those KNOWING people all delusional?

I say you are as delusional as were they.

peace and love,

ramen

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#543358 Jun 10, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Overshaowing DOES NOT mean that she got pregnant by that experience.
so let me ask you ask a question.
could you have been able to stayed awake while God was doing this to you?
could Adam have stayed awake while God was surgically removing a rib from his body.
if you weren't such a flake, you could understand very easily what occurs in the Word of God.
people like you run hither and thither trying to comprehend His Word, while that same Word says it is so Simple to find and walk on that road, that even a blind man can find it and Walk on it. where then, does that leave a person like you? a man who claims to be a catholic one day, next week, he is a protestant(Yet Never Saved by the Blood), and then down the road, he is an atheist.
and for those very reasons, it is easy to call YOU a flake. A person like you cant escape your past, UNLESS you become Born Again by His Blood, and Thanks be unto God, even you can be Saved, and then we would accept you into His Kingdom with no qualms whatsoever.
Even Judas could have been Saved if he had Repented to God, not to the Sanhedrin, they like your catholic church, can not save anyone. so there is hope for you, unless, like Judas, in your sudden change of moods, take your own life.
Preston

To your first question, I don't see why not...A direct Yes.
To your second question, the word for deep sleep concerning Adam, is one of interest. Again we get to these singular words, or expressions which are difficult to translate in a literal sense. Check out the Pulpit Commentary, and the Jameison-Fausset-Brown Commentary on the subject of the "deep sleep".

http://biblehub.com/genesis/2-21.htm

So in answer to your second question, if you have ever had a vision, it is not really sleep. So my answer to your second question is that Adam was in the state of having a vision is quite applicable. But I would add that such a vision changes one's state of being, in similar fashion as being born-again does....

But I quite agree with you that overshadowing does not mean she got pregnant in a normal sense, since Luke used the word in a dative way as coming from the Most High.

As for the rest of what you write, trying to discredit and disrespect me, I understand.
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543359 Jun 10, 2014
June owns the delusional here. That why she is never refuted with facts, only by name-calling and other derogatory claims.

Like "June is so unhappy" or "June is so mean," blah, blah. LMAO, because the deluded are obviously here for her amusement.

peace and love to the deluded ones.

ramen

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543360 Jun 10, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Oxbow
Peace
How often do you use the word "overshadow" in your normal everyday use of the English outside of what we write on this thread concerning its use in the Bible?
None, few, many times in your life? Can you recall when you used it?
Peace
I don't understand the reason for the questions. Are you saying that would change the truth in the Scripture I posted????

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543361 Jun 10, 2014
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston
The reason I said that the word "overshadow" was used only once in the Bible, is because of the Greek word "episkiasei" which is used only once.(which is in Luke 1:35) I am sorry for not being specific in that area. And it is used in the sense of the source of an action of the verb. In this case the Most High.
As to your other considerations, "only the Jews deny the Birth of Jesus(well no they don't).", as you begin your post. Does this mean you are unstable? You make a statement and then modify it, deny, retract it....
I do this all the time. But you take it as meaning I am unstable, and present it in the "flake" in most of your posts to or about me.
It is most unchristian-like.
I ask for your apology.
Maybe this will help..

Lu 1:35 shall overshadow <episkiazo>

Ac 5:15 overshadow <episkiazo>

Mt 17:5 overshadowed <episkiazo>

Mr 9:7 overshadowed <episkiazo>

Lu 9:34 overshadowed <episkiazo>
Larry Sinclair

Kenosha, WI

#543362 Jun 10, 2014
Pad wrote:
Oh June you forgot to say "tongue in cheek" on your last post about the book writing!
BATH-HOUSE BARRY put his tongue between the cheeks at Man's Country in Chicago.
A few days ago the BBC reported 800 bodies of babies & children were found in a nun's septic tank. 33 additional mass-graves have been found on Catholic premises in Spain and Canada for a total body count so far of 358,000 babies and children mostly from homes for unwed-mothers. This latest was discovered as a result of investigations from the International Court of Justice criminal-case against Pope Francis who allegedly raped at least two children, ate at least some of a sacrificed newborn and oversaw child-trafficking in Argentina and Canada.
Queen Elizabeth is also implicated.
WHERE WILL YOU SPEND ETERNITY?
In Heaven with the virgin-born Son of God Jesus the Christ?
OR
In the lake of fire with the Kenyan-born son of a porn-star Obama the Antichrist?
Oh and BTW Poop Francis is the False Prophet.
www.shadowreign.com
Michael

Canada

#543363 Jun 10, 2014
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Would you like an explanation of what God means when He said He created evil? Well I will share it anyway June,I know you migh vegetarian right? Well those poor helpless beautiful vegetables and so on you pluck from the vinesespecially are quite unique as to how they gather unto themselves food,from both the animal kingdom and Plant kingdom.Much of which seems quite barbaric.Than again what would we eat?
Here is another point of why God supposedly created EVIL. He created the Angels,and in spite of your lack of belief June,the Angels are believed by most of this planet,you are sorely outnumbered.But than again who cares?
The Angels were created to be Messengers of God,but to who were they going to be Messengers?That is a good question,I cannot answer that one,frankly because I was not there when He created the Angels.(Oh I know there are no angels,according to June) make sure you put that in your book. Nevertheless, the angels have other profound occupations and doings in the realms of Glory,so I will not limit them to just being Messengers.
Lucifer a Cherub was one of the most fantastic Angels ever to be created by God,Powerful,Handsome,and full of talent,as he lead the choirs in full and wonderful worship before the God of the heavens. In that where Lucifer decided he was more than capable of being self-sufficient and a born leader,Lucifer declared in 5 points his own glory,and his DESIRE to be above the glory of his Creator. Since all angels have the Free Will, you have June, they can c h o o s e their own destiny.
Lucifer lead an insurrection in heaven,WHY? because He was able to convince other angels that the Creator spent Himself in all creation,and that the Creator emanates into all He created thereby diminishing His being(that is becoming lesser and lesser all powerful).
So to get to the issue of why God created EVIL? Lucifer in his rebellion with other angels fell to an e v i l state against their Creator.God takes full responsibility for that evil as He knows He created the very myriad of angels that rebelled against Him,and evil was borne in the hearts of those angels. God created the Angels who would never forsake His love,and those who did
forsake Him.Mind you(of course you do not believe anything) the very fact that God created the angels who rebelled,gives rise to the reality that evil is part of that creation!
Pad says...1)...I know you are a vegetarian right? Well those poor helpless beautiful vegetables and so on you pluck from the vines grown in the earth,become your meal for an evening.One could say you are terrible for eating the helpless living plants that are at your mercy.But, God did say EAT,for it is good!
Michael says..........1)..Com' On! What a ridiculous comparison of the point she was making.
Pad says 2).....2) Angels are believed by most of our planet. So you are outnumbered June.
Michael says....2) So according to you the majority that everyone believes in, is true because majority knows right.
Silly silly silly!
I thought you were really smarter than to make goofy statements like those.
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543364 Jun 10, 2014
FACT: No one wants to consider the absurdities and contradictions, so religious debate confines itself to the "shadows" - to the nebulous.

For example, either devoted monks and others who took Jesus at his word and did what Jesus taught were all foolishly wrong -- or you are.

Only in a delusion can opposite sides of a question BOTH be correct.

Michael

Canada

#543365 Jun 10, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
If the creator NEEDED suffering to prove any point whatsoever ... he has no right to judge his creation as being imperfect ... because HE is the first cause of the imperfection.
Do you GET that point???
Religion is based on stupidity.
Did you read Pads goofy statement about his description of evil,....... and that there are angels because the majority of people say there are......so it must be true.(ROTFLOL!!)

what is that word you use?? BUNKOLOGY!

UNBELIEVABLE!
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543366 Jun 10, 2014
Larry Sinclair wrote:
<quoted text>BATH-HOUSE BARRY put his tongue between the cheeks at Man's Country in Chicago.
A few days ago the BBC reported 800 bodies of babies & children were found in a nun's septic tank. 33 additional mass-graves have been found on Catholic premises in Spain and Canada for a total body count so far of 358,000 babies and children mostly from homes for unwed-mothers. This latest was discovered as a result of investigations from the International Court of Justice criminal-case against Pope Francis who allegedly raped at least two children, ate at least some of a sacrificed newborn and oversaw child-trafficking in Argentina and Canada.
Queen Elizabeth is also implicated.
WHERE WILL YOU SPEND ETERNITY?
In Heaven with the virgin-born Son of God Jesus the Christ?
OR
In the lake of fire with the Kenyan-born son of a porn-star Obama the Antichrist?
Oh and BTW Poop Francis is the False Prophet.
www.shadowreign.com
This is not insane thinking.

This is religious "thinking."

ramen
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#543367 Jun 10, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>Overshaowing DOES NOT mean that she got pregnant by that experience.
so let me ask you ask a question.
could you have been able to stayed awake while God was doing this to you?
could Adam have stayed awake while God was surgically removing a rib from his body.
if you weren't such a flake, you could understand very easily what occurs in the Word of God.
people like you run hither and thither trying to comprehend His Word, while that same Word says it is so Simple to find and walk on that road, that even a blind man can find it and Walk on it. where then, does that leave a person like you? a man who claims to be a catholic one day, next week, he is a protestant(Yet Never Saved by the Blood), and then down the road, he is an atheist.
and for those very reasons, it is easy to call YOU a flake. A person like you cant escape your past, UNLESS you become Born Again by His Blood, and Thanks be unto God, even you can be Saved, and then we would accept you into His Kingdom with no qualms whatsoever.
Even Judas could have been Saved if he had Repented to God, not to the Sanhedrin, they like your catholic church, can not save anyone. so there is hope for you, unless, like Judas, in your sudden change of moods, take your own life.
"...thou shalt conceive in thy womb..."

This eliminates the possibility that God placed an already-conceived-embryo in her womb.

I think you may possibly be a pseudo-Monophysite, and considering your obnoxious and degrading behavior here, you are most likely not a Christian.

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