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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 665126 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Michael

Canada

#543157 Jun 9, 2014
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't like Family Guy. Seth MacFarlane does his jokes out of ideology. He tries to make a political or religious point first, then pretend its a joke. South Park sincerely tries to be funny first. They've made fun of the Catholic Church, but it was so over the top, that I was able to laugh. The Vatican episode with all the Priests towing around a little boy, was almost making fun of the false perception anti Catholics have, as well as the Church itself.(With the exception of a couple offensive things about Mary. Preston would have loved that) Plus, Family Guy directs it almost exclusively at Christians for religion, and Republican for political. SP balances it out to everyone. Even South Park made fun of Family Guy's one sided jokes and MacFarlands agenda-driven writing.
And I found it hilarious that thee Richard Dawkins actually watched the entire 3 part episode making fun of him.
Liam says......Seth MacFarlane does his jokes out of ideology. He tries to make a political or religious point first, then pretend its a joke.

Michael says..........your single opinion doesn't mirror the vast majority that had made the show top rated and is celebrating 15 years.

I am sure the episodes that satirized protestants or Muslims didn't get you upset at all, but the ones about Mary and the Church ......ITS NOT FUNNY!!

you need to roll with it. All of it.
KayMarie

Carlisle, PA

#543158 Jun 9, 2014
who="Oxbow"]<quot ed text>
Mal 2:13 has nothing.....zilch...to do with a divorce..
Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god
The LORD will cut off the man that doeth this, the master and the scholar, out of the tabernacles of Jacob, and him that offereth an offering unto the LORD of hosts.
And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
It has to do with men marrying the daughter of a strange god......

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Read more carefully. They 'put away'(divorced) the wives of their youth, THEN they married the foreign daughters.
Michael

Canada

#543159 Jun 9, 2014
KayMarie wrote:
who="Michael"]<qu oted text>
.....Pad says.....they focus on their right to hate each other......
Oh!..... Much like the posts on this forum between catholics/protestants. Have you read any lately?
.....We have many Muslims in our community and none of them act in any way you have stereo typed them. If they were as vile as you believe your country wouldn't allow so many to migrate into your communities in amerca.
Your a fear mongerer, and anti anything that isn't christian. Your way of thinking is why our world is divided.
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Michael, you need to learn something about 'stealth jihad'. Jihadists have taught and practiced this for centuries.
You come to my neighborhood and tell that to the 7 year olds and their Muslim families who live in peace and friendship and work in our communities.

Your a fear mongerer. Its sad how you judge people because they weren't born by accident into the one true belief that you were.

There are good and bad everywhere, but I don't lump everyone together like you do. I am very disappointed with your comments.

I am sure 150 years ago the native americans were saying the same about your ancestors who stole land and rights from them and killed them if they didn't comply.

Its a sad world, but embracing people is a lot better world than the inner hatred you have.
KayMarie

Carlisle, PA

#543160 Jun 9, 2014
who="Oxbow"]<quot ed text>
putting away: shalach: a primitive root; to send away, for, or out (in a great variety of applications):--X any wise, appoint, bring (on the way), cast (away, out), conduct, X earnestly, forsake, give (up), grow long, lay, leave, let depart (down, go, loose), push away, put (away, forth, in, out), reach forth, send (away, forth, out), set, shoot (forth, out), sow, spread, stretch forth (out).
The word "divorce" is not in the definition of "putting away"....you added to Scripture to make it say what you want it to say........
Mal 2:16 For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously
First companion verse:
De 24:1 ¶ When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Second and third companion verses:
It hath been said, Whosoever shall PUT AWAY his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall PUT AWAY his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry HER THAT IS DIVORCED (put away) committeth adultery.
These companion verses support a divorce under certain conditions....they do not teach that God hates a divorce under these circumstances......
Thank God you are not a brain surgeon!!!!
Michael

Canada

#543161 Jun 9, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't swallow that Protestant junk of salvation for Protestants and none for Catholics when I was a kid, and I won't swallow it now.
When I was a child I remember a little girl of the Catholic faith telling me that she was taught that Protestants would go to hell. She said to me "I don't believe it." And we laughed together.
As an adult she never goes to the Catholic church, and as an adult I don't go to the Protestant church.
Those preachers tried to make us hate each other ... but in spite of their AIMS we are still the best of friends.
I went to catholic grade school, and I have told this story before. Around 1960 The principal in our school a nun, one day came storming out to the playground around lunch time chasing a few kids from the public school away that were standing on the public sidewalk just outside the gate waiting for their friends from my school to come out. The nun said in a stern voice go up to the corner and wait" now shoo" away, something to that affect.

One of many things that started my pathway away from the church.

Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543162 Jun 9, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The first mistake is to believe that self can BE wise.
Self then wants to stay put in it's own concept of "universal truth" and not ask any more questions OF self.
My journey has been and is all about asking my self why I would believe whatever I believe is based on truth when others believe that what I believe is based on lies.
It keeps me moving along and in turn not getting full of my self with any silly notions of owning universal truth.
OK I'll restate. You are such a putz :o)

No matter, I am just glad you are treating me no differently than the others, even though I am much sweeter and nicer, and have THE one true God.

ramen

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543163 Jun 9, 2014
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>didn't figure that you could find it, I left you with no hints as far as using google. but if you knew very much about the Bible you would have known about the cloud that "overshadowed" the Israelites by Day and the pillar of fire by night.
and unlike what Tony does, this wasn't Trivia.lol
Ex 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.

My KJV has not "overshadow" nor "overshadowed" in the OT....what version are you using that shows either of those word in the OT...
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543164 Jun 9, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
The Catholic religion was based on the religions that came before it. Then it was totally morphed into its own design by the Catholic church fathers and tagged with a label of "universal truth."
It was simply an old habit under a new regime.
Feed them catch-phrases such as "universal truth" "HOLY" and "salvation" ... and they will come ... comparable to pigs to a trough.
You forgot "fullness of faith."

So full that we must have guards and fences on our southern border to keep the ones with the "fullness" and "universal truth" from escaping societies built on same.

Go figure?

ramen
KayMarie

Carlisle, PA

#543165 Jun 9, 2014
who="Michael"]<qu oted text>
You come to my neighborhood and tell that to the 7 year olds and their Muslim families who live in peace and friendship and work in our communities.
Your a fear mongerer. Its sad how you judge people because they weren't born by accident into the one true belief that you were.
There are good and bad everywhere, but I don't lump everyone together like you do. I am very disappointed with your comments.
I am sure 150 years ago the native americans were saying the same about your ancestors who stole land and rights from them and killed them if they didn't comply.
Its a sad world, but embracing people is a lot better world than the inner hatred you have.

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And what provoked your hateful accusations against me, Michael...your GREAT LOVE ???
I didn't even comment about them...only suggested that you see what 'stealth jihad' is.

Yes, there are 'good' people everywhere...but mingled with those are the wife-beaters and the Hitler types. We even have some 'white supremacists among us.

Two of the kidnapped girls in Nigeria were aided to escape by a Muslim matron who was overseeing them, a Muslim man who sheltered them, and his wife, who took them to a Christian community she knew about. But those 'good people' had to aid the girls secretly, or they themselves would have been killed.

An Islamic surgeon operated on me last year...he was very kind...but he lives in this nation where one can still find real Christian influence.

But the 'stealth jihad' is still a teaching and practice of those who follow the Q'uran.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543166 Jun 9, 2014
KayMarie wrote:
who="Oxbow"]<quot ed text>
putting away: shalach: a primitive root; to send away, for, or out (in a great variety of applications):--X any wise, appoint, bring (on the way), cast (away, out), conduct, X earnestly, forsake, give (up), grow long, lay, leave, let depart (down, go, loose), push away, put (away, forth, in, out), reach forth, send (away, forth, out), set, shoot (forth, out), sow, spread, stretch forth (out).
The word "divorce" is not in the definition of "putting away"....you added to Scripture to make it say what you want it to say........
Mal 2:16 For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously
First companion verse:
De 24:1 ¶ When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Second and third companion verses:
It hath been said, Whosoever shall PUT AWAY his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall PUT AWAY his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry HER THAT IS DIVORCED (put away) committeth adultery.
These companion verses support a divorce under certain conditions....they do not teach that God hates a divorce under these circumstances......
Thank God you are not a brain surgeon!!!!
Did you forget to respond????
Gods r Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#543167 Jun 9, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
<quoted text>
I wouldn't swallow that Protestant junk of salvation for Protestants and none for Catholics when I was a kid, and I won't swallow it now.
When I was a child I remember a little girl of the Catholic faith telling me that she was taught that Protestants would go to hell. She said to me "I don't believe it." And we laughed together.
As an adult she never goes to the Catholic church, and as an adult I don't go to the Protestant church.
Those preachers tried to make us hate each other ... but in spite of their AIMS we are still the best of friends.
I'm looking forward to meeting lots of hot babes in Hell.(Like Mrs. Jones maybe :o)

ramen
KayMarie

Carlisle, PA

#543168 Jun 9, 2014
[ who="Michael"]<qu oted text>
I went to catholic grade school, and I have told this story before. Around 1960 The principal in our school a nun, one day came storming out to the playground around lunch time chasing a few kids from the public school away that were standing on the public sidewalk just outside the gate waiting for their friends from my school to come out. The nun said in a stern voice go up to the corner and wait" now shoo" away, something to that affect.
One of many things that started my pathway away from the church.

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She obviously was one of the 'hard-liners'...

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#543169 Jun 9, 2014
KayMarie wrote:
who="Oxbow"]<quot ed text>
Mal 2:13 has nothing.....zilch...to do with a divorce..
Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god
The LORD will cut off the man that doeth this, the master and the scholar, out of the tabernacles of Jacob, and him that offereth an offering unto the LORD of hosts.
And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
It has to do with men marrying the daughter of a strange god......
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Read more carefully. They 'put away'(divorced) the wives of their youth, THEN they married the foreign daughters.
Really???? What does this mean "and hath married the daughter of a strange god"

I gave you the definition of "putting way".....it says zilch about a divorce...you are adding meaning to Scripture to make it say what you want it to say....

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#543170 Jun 9, 2014
KayMarie wrote:
who="Michael"]<qu oted text>
.....Pad says.....they focus on their right to hate each other......
Oh!..... Much like the posts on this forum between catholics/protestants. Have you read any lately?
.....We have many Muslims in our community and none of them act in any way you have stereo typed them. If they were as vile as you believe your country wouldn't allow so many to migrate into your communities in amerca.
Your a fear mongerer, and anti anything that isn't christian. Your way of thinking is why our world is divided.
----------
Michael, you need to learn something about 'stealth jihad'. Jihadists have taught and practiced this for centuries.
And you need to learn more about how Martin Luther wanted the starving peasants to be put death as offenders of GOD ... while Martin sat with his over-stuffed belly full of the tastiest food to be found in his new kingdom of "universal truth."

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#543171 Jun 9, 2014
KayMarie wrote:
who="Oxbow"]<quot ed text>
Mal 2:13 has nothing.....zilch...to do with a divorce..
Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god
The LORD will cut off the man that doeth this, the master and the scholar, out of the tabernacles of Jacob, and him that offereth an offering unto the LORD of hosts.
And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
It has to do with men marrying the daughter of a strange god......
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Read more carefully. They 'put away'(divorced) the wives of their youth, THEN they married the foreign daughters.
As is your dimwitted husband, you are an expert at picking scriptures that make you appear as WISE ...and holy ... and others as evil.

Try swallowing the following scripture whole and see if it goes down as universal Protestant truth???

Idiot!
>>>>>

Isaiah 45:7 KJV
King James Version

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#543172 Jun 9, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Really???? What does this mean "and hath married the daughter of a strange god"
I gave you the definition of "putting way".....it says zilch about a divorce...you are adding meaning to Scripture to make it say what you want it to say....
The words mean to you whatever you DESIRE they MUST mean.

It's your ego talking to itself.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#543173 Jun 9, 2014
Gods r Delusions x Mine wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm looking forward to meeting lots of hot babes in Hell.(Like Mrs. Jones maybe :o)
ramen
But according to the "learned ones" of earth hell is no longer a place to fear. It's simply a separation from the "love" of GOD. The devil has no place to call home anymore, and except for being exorcised out of bodies in churches, before first leading them into sin so they can be exorcised ... he seems to not be up to much.

Burning souls in hell used to be a lot of work for the devil ... but as time went by his work-load seems to have fallen by the wayside.

:)

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#543174 Jun 9, 2014
And of course being that the Christians want the word Lord to mean Jesus … that means that the Lord Jesus creates good and evil.

Isn’t THAT an inspiring revelation???

You can’t blame Jehovah LORD for creating evil and then say “Thank you Lord-“Jesus” for saving me.”

It's not FAIR to play theology for all its worth in YOUR own favor!
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>

Isaiah 45:7 KJV
King James Version

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
atemcowboy

Van Wert, OH

#543175 Jun 9, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
<quoted text>
Ex 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.
My KJV has not "overshadow" nor "overshadowed" in the OT....what version are you using that shows either of those word in the OT...
took you long enough. lol. I am using the koine greek .
atemcowboy

Van Wert, OH

#543176 Jun 9, 2014
I am not going to give you any hints. if you want to argue with me, you are going to have to be smarter than you presently are.

you seem to be very mistaken in believing that you are the smartest person on this Forum, and you love to try and talk down to people with your little retorts.

now if you possess a Strong's Concordance, it might link you to what I am talking about. but I cant verify that, since I don't possess a Greek dictionary or Lexicon. I gave mine away back in 91 when I moved. I thought the Bible College might need it.

and anyway, if you have been on here for years, a Professor posted to me about a latin phrase that a person was trying to put together(and failed), like you tried and failed also. she answered me in Classical Greek, and I appreciated her comments.

as I have said three times, you cant just pick a word or words and make them have the proper CONTEXT.

OVERSHADOW, as what God did in the example with Mary, doesn't mean what you think it means. that was only PART of the Experience, just as with God taking a rib from Adam.

the word Overshadow with Mary, is comparable as to God placing Adam asleep.

Do I expect you(or tony) to understand that? nope!

Between the two of you, you don't have the Biblical knowledge of my 5 y/o granddaughter.

without the knowledge of you using Google, you would be completely useless in a Bible quiz.

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