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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 683952 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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hojo

Waconia, MN

#534688 May 4, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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“Eliminate the extreme conservative haranguing,” said one person. Another respondent said politics and the church shouldn’t mix:“I feel the church should stay out of politics; it should certainly not threaten politicians.”
These quotes from a minority handful of liberal " so-called Catholics mean NOTHING! The fact is that ANY and ALL of these " emancipated liberatied progressives" can "go down the street" to the nearest Protestant Church campaign their liberal grievances (take a vote) split and start another bible only denomination to add to the already 42,000+ contradicting opinionated denominations.........NO ONE is forcing ANYONE to remain and be Catholic.....The Catholic Church is not a "take a vote" democracy..... It is a matter of obedience to the a Fullness of the TRUTH of the TRUE GOSPEL of Jesus Christ from over 2000 years and obedience to the Fullness of the Faith !!!.......The Catholic Church is the ONlLY Christian Church that continues to grow ---each and every year by over 1.5%,now to over 2.2 billion people world-wide........Therefore, take your grievances, complaints and arguments to the rest of your other 42,000 bible only splintered denominations and argue with them and vote, vote and vote some more to get opinions, opinions and more opinions and more and more divisions, divisions and more divisions !!!! It is ALL YOURS !!!!! You can have it !!!!!!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#534689 May 4, 2014
hojo wrote:
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These books are 30 and. 40 years old and have "absolutely NO RELEVANCE" "what-so-ever" as to what is ACTUALLY going on today in 2014 in Jesus Christs One (and only one) True Apostolic a Catholic Church!!!...Keep fishing OX as you "continue" to catch NOTHING -----which is no surprise to ANYONE on this forum who reads the "distorted and perverted sources" of anti-catholic nonsense that you "dig up"!!!
Back in the early days of Catholicism, the popes had no science to help them decide what the god ordained ... so they believed (in their wisdom) that the soul did not come into the body until they felt movement, which they referred to as "the quickening" (41/2 months into gestation.

So abortion was not consider as murder by the popes until after the quickening.

They never spoke of wrote by divine inspiration whatsoever.

The theologians simply gave off that AIR perpetually heated by arrogance and stupidity.
hojo

Waconia, MN

#534690 May 4, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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There's no need for you to imply that I am picking on Catholics with a personal vendetta hojo, as I spread my distaste of religion throughout ALL religions.
OK!......I'll accept that!.......
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#534691 May 4, 2014
Abortion … Augustine’s opinion.

5th TO 16th Century CE (Various beliefs on whether abortion is murder):

St. Augustine (354-430 CE) reversed centuries of Christian teaching in Western Europe, and returned the church to the Aristotelian Pagan concept of "delayed ensoulment." He wrote 7 that a human soul cannot live in an unformed body. So, an abortion is not murder because no soul is destroyed (or, more accurately, only a vegetable or animal soul is terminated). He wrote extensively on sexual matters, teaching that the original sin of Adam and Eve are passed to each successive generation through the pleasure generated during sexual intercourse. This passed into the church's canon law. Only abortion of a more fully developed "fetus animatus" (animated fetus) was punished as murder.

http://www.godrules.net/articles/abortion2.ht ...

Since: Feb 14

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#534692 May 4, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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There's no need for you to imply that I am picking on Catholics with a personal vendetta hojo, as I spread my distaste of religion throughout ALL religions.
hahaha! June, you might be a hater but dang it, you're awesome..
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#534693 May 4, 2014
hojo wrote:
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OK!......I'll accept that!.......
Thank you.

Since: Jun 10

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#534694 May 4, 2014
Chess wrote:
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We've already been over this, thief.
Slither back to your favorite rock...lying snake..

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#534695 May 4, 2014
Michael wrote:
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..(lol)...what? God doesn't give you special powers to convert protestants? You fooled me!
Well he did.....but then the decent faction of civilization outlawed burn'n folks at the stake, hang'n folks, and other such atrocity. Nowadays we jist got them jesuit nazis jihadists ta deal with.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#534696 May 4, 2014
Christian become angry at me for not believing that they will be rewarded with eternal bliss in heaven. But I suggest that the same Christian are pleased with my belief that they won't spend eternity in hell.
Chess

Columbus, OH

#534697 May 4, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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Slither back to your favorite rock...lying snake..
You're pretending, thief.
Michael

Canada

#534698 May 4, 2014
LTM wrote:
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I AM NOT SHUTTING June AS I HAVE EXPLAINED BEFORE I HAVE PROBLEM WITH MY EYES. I GOT LAZY INSTEAD OF ENLARGING MY FONTS I WROTE IN CAPS.
Jesus is God , Jesus is God, to all men. some accept him some don't, and they come from all tribes tongues and nations, just as the Christians do.
There are many who claim to be Christian only because they believe there is a God,, that doesn't make one a Christian satan believes in God.
There are Jews who rejected Jesus just as you do, but make no mistake salvation was present to the Jews first,'IS NOT JESUS CALLED KING OF THE JEWS."
BEFORE YOU MAKE COMMENTS OF BOOKS YOU HAVE READ FROM OTHER PEOPLE
WHO MAKE COMMENTS ON THE BIBLE PLEASE READ THE BIBLE AND MAKE SURE IT IS THERE, BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING A FOOL OUT OF YOUR SELF.
...King of the Jew you say.

..The only reference to that term were writers in the New Testament. No one else in our historical records make such a claim.

...Outside the NT there are no references during this era of a god/man named Jesus.

....You either believe the NT or you don't.

....Can you tell us with certainty that the 4 names associated with the 4 gospels were the men who really wrote them, or do you believe because you were taught to believe.

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Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#534699 May 4, 2014
hojo wrote:
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These quotes from a minority handful of liberal " so-called Catholics mean NOTHING! The fact is that ANY and ALL of these " emancipated liberatied progressives" can "go down the street" to the nearest Protestant Church campaign their liberal grievances (take a vote) split and start another bible only denomination to add to the already 42,000+ contradicting opinionated denominations.........NO ONE is forcing ANYONE to remain and be Catholic.....The Catholic Church is not a "take a vote" democracy..... It is a matter of obedience to the a Fullness of the TRUTH of the TRUE GOSPEL of Jesus Christ from over 2000 years and obedience to the Fullness of the Faith !!!.......The Catholic Church is the ONlLY Christian Church that continues to grow ---each and every year by over 1.5%,now to over 2.2 billion people world-wide........Therefore, take your grievances, complaints and arguments to the rest of your other 42,000 bible only splintered denominations and argue with them and vote, vote and vote some more to get opinions, opinions and more opinions and more and more divisions, divisions and more divisions !!!! It is ALL YOURS !!!!! You can have it !!!!!!
Washington (CNN)– Even though Roman Catholics are the second-largest religious group in the United States, the tradition has seen an exodus of members in recent decades. One in ten Americans is an ex-Catholic.

If ex-Catholics were counted as their own religious group, they would be the third-largest denomination in the United States, after Catholics and Baptists, according to the National Catholic Reporter.

You have little regard for the National Catholic Reporter!!!!!!!!!
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#534700 May 4, 2014
HOW DO WE KNOW THE BIBLE IS THE TRUE WORD OF GOD
Beyond the evidence for the Bible's correctness (manuscript evidence) and its historicity (archeological evidence), the most important evidence is that of its inspiration. The real determination of the Bible's claim to absolute inspired truth is in its supernatural evidence, including prophecy. God used prophets to speak and write down His Word and God uses miracles like fulfilled prophecy to authenticate His messengers. For example, in Genesis 12:7, God promises that the land of Israel was to be for Abraham and his descendants. In 1948 Israel was returned back to the Jewish people for the second time in history. This may not seem so astonishing until you realize that no nation in the history of the world has been scattered from its homeland and returned! Israel has done it twice. The book of Daniel predicts with accuracy the coming of the four great kingdoms from Babylon, to Medo-Persia, to Greece, to Rome centuries before some of those kingdoms came on the scene (a time span of over 1,000 years!) with details concerning how they would rule and be broken. This includes the reigns of Alexander the Great and Antiochus Epiphanies.
In Ezekiel 26 we can see in astonishing detail how the city of Tyre was to be destroyed, how it would be torn down, and how its debris would be thrown into the sea. When Alexander the Great marched on that area, he encountered a group of people holed up in a tower on an island off the coast near there. He could not cross the sea, so he could not fight those in the tower. Rather than wait them out, the proud conqueror had his army throw stones into the sea to build a land bridge to the tower. It worked. His army crossed the sea and overthrew the occupants of the stronghold. But where did he get so much stone? The rocks that were used for the land bridge were the leftover rubble from the city of Tyre ... its stones cast into the sea!
There are so many prophecies concerning Christ (over 270!) that it would take more than a few screens worth of space to list them all. Further, Jesus would have had no control over many of them such as His birthplace or time of birth. Second, the odds of one man accidentally fulfilling even 16 of these are 1 in 10^45. How many is that? For comparison, there are less than 10^82 atoms in the entire universe! And Jesus, who affirmed the Bible as the Word of God, proved His reliability and deity by His resurrection (an historical fact not easily ignored).
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June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#534701 May 4, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> hahaha! June, you might be a hater but dang it, you're awesome..
Just because I want to take a baseball bat to Jerry Falwell's soul in the hereafter doesn't mean that I hate his soul. It just means that I don't want his soul to cause any more trouble for homosexuals and Pagans and anything that moves or coughs or looks at Jerry's soul the wrong way.

It's love of others that makes me so nice as to want to end the saga of Jerry Falwell.

:)

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#534702 May 4, 2014
The continuation on Catlics leaving the "faith"...

Church’s stance toward divorced and remarried Catholics

Catholicism’s stance on divorce and remarriage were also highlighted, especially by divorced females.

The churches stance on divorce is closely tied to their stance on adultery. Without getting a marriage annulled, any marriage after a divorce is considered adulterous. Therefore, divorced people who have not had their marriage annulled or remarried are not able to receive Holy Communion.

“Please find a way not to exclude me from the Catholic community,” said one 56-year old divorced female. A 59-year old divorced female said she would tell her bishop to “petition the church to expand its view on divorce.”

In November of last year, Pope Benedict XVI responded to a German bishop who questioned the Church’s teaching on divorce and remarriage.“A pastoral approach which truly wants to help the people concerned must always be grounded in the truth… in the end, only the truth can be pastoral,” the Pope wrote, signaling a reluctance to change church teachings on divorce and remarriage policy.

“Instead of making every Mass a form of humiliation for Catholics who cannot receive communion,” one respondent to the Trenton survey said,“do something like a private blessing at communion time, to include everyone.”
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#534703 May 4, 2014
CONT
Now consider the Quran - its author, Muhammad, performed no miracles to back up his message (even when he was asked to by his followers - Sura 17:91-95; 29:47-51). Only in much later tradition (the Hadith) do any alleged miracles even show up and these are all quite fanciful (like Muhammad cutting the moon in half) and have zero reliable testimony to back them up. Further, the Quran makes clear historical errors. Muslims believe the Bible is inspired but with some errors from editing (Sura 2:136 as well as Suras 13, 16, 17, 20, 21, 23, 25). The question they cannot adequately answer is: "When was the Bible corrupted?" If they say before 600 A.D. then how can the Quran admonish believers to read it? If they claim it was after 600 A.D., then they have jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire, for we have absolutely no doubt as to the accuracy of biblical manuscripts from at least the 3rd century forward. Even if Christianity were false, the Quran still has an insurmountable problem because it makes judgments against Christians for believing things that they do not (nor have they ever) believed. For example, the Quran teaches that Christians believe the Trinity is the Father, the Mother (Mary), and the Son (Sura 5:73-75, 116), and the Quran also teaches that Christians believe that God had sex with Mary to have a son (Suras 2:116; 6:100-101; 10:68; 16:57; 19:35; 23:91; 37:149-151; 43:16-19). If the Quran is really from God, then it should at least be able to accurately report what Christians believe.
Joseph Smith, the author of the Book of Mormon, tried to do some miracles such as prophecy (a test for a true prophet in Deuteronomy 18:21-22) but failed several times. He foretold of Christ's second coming in History of the Church (HC) 2:382. Joseph Smith preached that the coming of the Lord would be in 56 years (about 1891). The second coming did not occur in 1891, and the Mormon Church does not claim that it did. Nor has it occurred since. He also prophesied that several cities would be destroyed in Doctrine and Covenants (D&C) 84:114-115. New York, Albany and Boston were to be destroyed if they rejected the gospel according to Smith. Joseph Smith himself went to New York, Albany, and Boston and preached there. These cities did not accept his gospel, yet they have not been destroyed. Another famous false prophecy of Joseph Smith was his "END OF ALL NATIONS" in D&C 87 concerning the rebellion of South Carolina in the war between the states. The South was supposed to call on Great Britain for aid, and as a result war would be poured out upon all nations; slaves would revolt; the inhabitants of the earth would mourn; famine, plague, earthquake, thunder, lightning, and a full end of all nations would result. The South finally did revolt in 1861, but the slaves did not rise up, war was not poured out upon all nations, there was no worldwide famine, plague, earthquake, etc., and there was no resulting "end of all nations."
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Since: Jun 10

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#534704 May 4, 2014
Chess wrote:
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You're pretending, thief.
Slither back to your favorite rock...lying snake
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#534705 May 4, 2014
CONT
The collection of writings that Protestants call the Apocrypha (hidden writings), Roman Catholics call the deuterocanonical (later or second canon) books. These books were written between 300 B.C. and 100 A.D., the Intertestamental Period between the inspired writings of God's Prophets in the Old Testament and those of the Apostles and their contemporaries in the New Testament. These were "infallibly" accepted into the Bible by the Roman Catholic Church in 1546 at the Council of Trent. Now the Apocrypha would be covered under the evidence for the Bible if these writings were truly inspired - but evidence seems to indicate that they are not. In the Bible we find prophets of God whose messages are ratified by miracles or prophecy that comes true, and whose message is immediately accepted by the people (Deut 31:26; Josh. 24:26; 1 Samuel 10:25; Daniel 9:2; Col. 4:16; 2 Peter 3:15-16). What we find in the apocrypha is just the opposite - no apocryphal book was written by a prophet. None of these books were included in the Hebrew Scriptures. There is no ratification of the authors of any apocryphal book. No apocryphal book is cited as authoritative by later Biblical writers. There is no fulfilled prophecy in any apocryphal book. Finally, Jesus, who quoted from every section of Old Testament Scripture, never once quoted from the apocrypha. Neither did any of His disciples.
The Bible so far outshines every competing source for being God's revelation that if it is not God's Word, it would seem impossible to choose among the leftovers. If the Bible is not God's Word, then we have been left with no clear criteria by which to know what might be.
Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/which-book.html#i...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#534706 May 4, 2014
Chess wrote:
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You're pretending, thief.
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You and oxbow are a riot.

Hour after hour after I go to bed at night, I hear the echo of "Go slither under your rock you snake" ... and then the response ... "You're pretending thief."

Funny stuff indeed!!!
Chess

Columbus, OH

#534707 May 4, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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Slither back to your favorite rock...lying snake
You're still pretending, thief.

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