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truth

Perth, Australia

#528457 Apr 10, 2014
cross INRI
humble yourself under
marge

Ames, IA

#528458 Apr 10, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
40,000+ competing protestants sects marge. All claiming to be born again.
Your problem is you think you're the expert on who's born again. And your criteria is whether they agree with you or not. It doesn't work that way. Sorry.
They can claim and compete all they want that does not make them born-again and yes that is how it works as born-agains we better all have the same doctrines and we do, you cannot show otherwise.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#528459 Apr 10, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Just can't help yourself can you Rose.
If a non-believer comes TO ME like you said and asks to be instructed, I will instruct them IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH. If they have a problem with Catholic priests I'd tell them to hit the road and take their chances with the protestsnts.
And Jesus???

We'll that's,honest ...see a priest or hit the road ...

Peace

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#528460 Apr 10, 2014
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Just can't help yourself can you Rose.
If a non-believer comes TO ME like you said and asks to be instructed, I will instruct them IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH. If they have a problem with Catholic priests I'd tell them to hit the road and take their chances with the protestsnts.
No I by help saying over and,over...any way I can Anthony .

He,loves,US who are undeserving of such grace..of His,Sacrifice ..we who bring Him sorrow,HE,LOVES US,ENOUGH TO DIE FOR US..and,Take,our vile,sins,to that Cross..this,perfect being who never knew,SIN ..became,full of sin. Feeling it as,He,drank that cup ..FEELING WHAT WE DESERVE .....FOR US,...

NO INSTITUTION DID THAT..He,did ...and He,wants,our FAITH , BELIEF ,LOVE ..if we never set foot in a Church ..He wants our soul ..our Spirit ...our worship ..

He asks that we be baptized , but it's,our Spiritual birth He,requires....

We need to spread the WORD of HIS LOVE ....open hearts,to His,grace,....not dogmas,..

I know you think only the RCC has the answer ....but it's,Jesus who hung on that Cross..not a,Church..not a,Pope and Peter was not there ...it's all HIM ..

God bless your heart ..I know,you are sincere ...how,much do you love Him..

If all Catholic Churches were gone...vanished...do you still know how to show,that love ...??
marge

Ames, IA

#528461 Apr 10, 2014
Anthony, we all agree water-baptism never saved anyone.

next question on where you think we disagree?
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#528462 Apr 10, 2014
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
...Same insulting comments from HOJO. You are very immature.
....Less than 2% of roman Catholics go to daily mass. You are in a very tiny minority.
Less than 2%!!!
Unbelievable!
.
Try looking at yourself in the mirror, as you "point fingers" ----along with the Protestant bible only's and other agnostics and atheists, of which the only thing you anti-Catholics know is to "insult, slam, ridicule attack the Catholic Church and the faith of any/and all Catholics on this forum ..........YOU "Catholic Bashers" came on this forum "looking for a fight" as you continue to rip our faith in God, Jesus Christ and His Catholic Church--with every hostile and vindictive comment you make....... EVERY ONE of your (loaded) statistics that you "dig up" are exaggerated and misrepresented from one of your obsolete liberal anti-Catholic sources that
have no more credibility than you, yourself...... For someone like you, Michael, that spends 24/7 frantically looking for something--ANYTHING that will further your hate, hostility and vengeance toward Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church,---I can only conclude that your daily life is about as (UNBELIEVABLY) "shallow and superficial" as it gets!!!!------
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#528463 Apr 10, 2014
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
They can claim and compete all they want that does not make them born-again and yes that is how it works as born-agains we better all have the same doctrines and we do, you cannot show otherwise.
Protestant (bible only's) cannot even agree on what it is to be born again--"let alone" agreement among the 40,000 other contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent other doctrines of "so-called Truth" that change daily (which ever way "the wind blows" with each new (man-made) denomination that "springs up"by some new bible interpretation (or better yet mis-interpretation of bible verses from some new "self-appointed" Protestant minister or preacher..........The proof of this is "clearly evident from over 450 years of Protestant History since the Reformation.......It is over 450 years of "mass confusion!.... The difference is that we, as Catholics possess over 2000 years with the TRUTH of the MASS---leaving you bible only
fundies with the CONFUSION
marge

Ames, IA

#528464 Apr 10, 2014
Hey Hojo how are you?

All us born-agains here preaching on this board do agree 100 percent on what one must do to be Saved.

Those other forty thousand are not here though claiming to be the True Church, just us who do agree on how to be SAVED.

Do you catholics get that point?
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#528465 Apr 10, 2014
marge wrote:
Well Anthony show us where us born-agains disagree on doctrine.
Why do you think that you have over 40,000 contradicting, inconsistent denominations???
Because "none of them"can agree on what is "Truth of a Doctrine" ---in interpretating bible verses----in which each individuals personal opinion ( one on top of another) each individual denomination or person claiming "their own " TRUTH ,,....,,,,I.e. The Euchsrist, baptism, the Sacraments, confession, the Church, the Trinity, and many others..........I know this for a fact after being raised in a bible only Church for over 35 years and witnessing "splintering and dividing" on three different occasion because of the differences in bible interpretation ( or better yet MIS-INTERPRETATION ----which has gotten worse over the years!!! Sorry that you can't see this Marge but the fact is that you are living in a Protestant bible only world of confusion and chaos in which "each person" or each one of your 40,000 contradicting denominations have become the final authority" regarding Truth!!!
marge

Ames, IA

#528466 Apr 10, 2014
Hojo, we have the answer to 'What must I do to be Saved?'

Only the True Church can answer this and the only question.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#528467 Apr 10, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you think that you have over 40,000 contradicting, inconsistent denominations???
Because "none of them"can agree on what is "Truth of a Doctrine" ---in interpretating bible verses----in which each individuals personal opinion ( one on top of another) each individual denomination or person claiming "their own " TRUTH ,,....,,,,I.e. The Euchsrist, baptism, the Sacraments, confession, the Church, the Trinity, and many others..........I know this for a fact after being raised in a bible only Church for over 35 years and witnessing "splintering and dividing" on three different occasion because of the differences in bible interpretation ( or better yet MIS-INTERPRETATION ----which has gotten worse over the years!!! Sorry that you can't see this Marge but the fact is that you are living in a Protestant bible only world of confusion and chaos in which "each person" or each one of your 40,000 contradicting denominations have become the final authority" regarding Truth!!!
Maybe because the stupid cathaholics couldn't get the bible compiled straight in the first place.....prolly should'a left it up ta somebody that *<knowed>* what they was do'in....but then they wouldn't have been able ta tell so many lies afterwards would they.
And then....after they done all that, and realized they screwed it all up.....they wouldn't even let folks read the dang thing or they'd kill 'em...so the folks all had ta go ta the cathaholic pews where the corrupted ly'n priests all told 'em lies in Latin so they couldn't understand it at all, whilst they took all ther monies.
Now....ya know where organized crime was borned, and the whole idea of the "godgather" comed from!....all of it based on extorting monies and wealth from the blind and helpless while telling them all lies in an unintelligible language.

Since: Feb 14

Location hidden

#528469 Apr 11, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Please post your support or citations that show "scripture" is what you think or is accurate.
Thanks!
Do you actually need scripture to tell you that? How about common sense.(everyday knowledge ) Faith W/out Works Is Dead, Dead, Dead..
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#528470 Apr 11, 2014
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe because the stupid cathaholics couldn't get the bible compiled straight in the first place.....prolly should'a left it up ta somebody that *<knowed>* what they was do'in....but then they wouldn't have been able ta tell so many lies afterwards would they.
And then....after they done all that, and realized they screwed it all up.....they wouldn't even let folks read the dang thing or they'd kill 'em...so the folks all had ta go ta the cathaholic pews where the corrupted ly'n priests all told 'em lies in Latin so they couldn't understand it at all, whilst they took all ther monies.
Now....ya know where organized crime was borned, and the whole idea of the "godgather" comed from!....all of it based on extorting monies and wealth from the blind and helpless while telling them all lies in an unintelligible language.
The Catholic Church as Jesus Christs One True Church "has had it right" for over 2000 years! 42,000 contradicting Protestant denominations sine the reformation have "made a inconsistent mess" of what the True Interpretation of the bible (is and was) since the Early Church Fathers " compiled it, wrote it and interpreted it in 382, 393 and 397 AD ........The TRUTH of the True Interpretation of the Bible and the TRUTH of the TRUE Doctrine of Jesus Christ "hasn't changed for over 2000 years in the a Catholic Church......You bible only's have over 42,000 self appointed preachers and ministers that keep " making up new" (man-made (opinionated) doctrines which have "no basis" of ANY biblical or historical truth to back. You still don't seem to understand the difference between TRUTH of DOCTRINE vs the CONDUCT of a small (2) percentage of pedophile priests who have "gone against the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Church and against their vocations as priests. The Church can say that it is wrong to kill, commit adultery, and sin---But that doesn't guarantee that it 's members won't commit sin. Jesus established and formed His One a True Cathoilc a Church "to save sinners" ( of which we all are).... If you are going to judge the Cathoilc Church by the "conduct and actions" of a few of its members--- then you better "throw out your bible" because EVERY ONE of its authors were sinners. Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said "I am the worst of sinners". This Only goes to show how ridiculous and twisted Protestants have become in their ingrained and distorted "anti-Catholic thinking!!!!!!!!
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#528471 Apr 11, 2014
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe because the stupid cathaholics couldn't get the bible compiled straight in the first place
You Protestant bible only,s have been full of "maybe's" since the Reformation! It is (no wonder) that contradiction, inconsistencies and conflicting "man made" bible " MIS - interpretations have created NOTHING but over 450 years of just more and more Protestant bible only--confusion and chaos.....The TRUTH of the TRuE Gospel of Jesus Christ, has, is and will ALWAYS be grounded, firmly established and manifested in Jesus Christ HIMSELF and in His One True Apostolic Catholic Church----and " none" other!!
hojo

Chanhassen, MN

#528472 Apr 11, 2014
marge wrote:
Hojo, we have the answer to 'What must I do to be Saved?'
Only the True Church can answer this and the only question.
Yes!! And the TRUE CHURCH is what Jesus Christ initiated, formed and authenticated in Matthew 16:13-21 with Jesus the head of the Church and Peter as His "earthly representative" to lead His Church until Jesus returns for the second time..........Acts 2 "clearly" reveals Christ Universal Church ( beginning with His first Church at Antioch as visible, hierarchical and authoritative with Bishops, Priests Elders and Deacons ---(again Acts 2).....These TRUTHS have been confirmed over and over and over again for over 2000 years by the overwhelming majority of highly accredited Church historian authors and by Apologistic writers who have spent their "entire lives studying, researching and examining church history . Sorry to burst your "anti-Cathoilc bubble Marge but your "personal opinions" don't trump 2000 years of biblical and historical TRUTH !!!!
Liam

United States

#528473 Apr 11, 2014
marge wrote:
All us born-agains here preaching on this board do agree 100 percent on what one must do to be Saved.
Those other forty thousand are not here though claiming to be the True Church, just us who do agree on how to be SAVED.
Do you catholics get that point?
Marge, God's plan wasn't for you to hit rock bottom,, then throw your arms up to be saved. No matter how many times i say this to my born again friends, they still stare at me like a deer in the headlight.
You dont realize how many people did it according to God's plan. They were born to two parents who are in the sacrament of marriage. They were baptized and raised in the faith; they made their firs Communion, learned their prayers, participated in the Church programs, then at an age of reason (usually 14) they made their Confirmation, which affirms their Baptism on their own accord. Do you get the picture? In high school they didnt go down the wayward path. In fact, at every age, they stayed close to Jesus through His Church. So its comical that people like you tell them they need to get saved. All because you were messing up in life and needed to "get saved"?

Here's a clue: as long as your hearts beating, you're not saved from going to hell. You need to endure to the end per the words of Jesus Christ in Mathew 24:13.
Liam

United States

#528474 Apr 11, 2014
@ Marge and Rose

Dont get me wrong, I love prodigal son stories. I saw one a few months ago from an old friend. In this day and age, especially in this country, it seems like everyone needs an alter call. I think the 60's really messed up God's plan. Now the fallout from this is broken homes, families and lives. Suddenly the born again theory seems normal. People dont realize it wasn't supposed to go down like that.
The only problem I have with people like you, is your blatant disregard for truth. You forcefully ignore the first 1800 yrs of Christianity as if it never existed. Worse, many of you lie to yourselves and pretend the "Romans" were 'responsible for it all'. Apparently pretending this is your justification?
Truthfully, you guys dont have a clue. Your a band of religious anarchist. Those like you who been made aware of your errors, but deliberately ignore it are in danger as you stand before God.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#528475 Apr 11, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Try looking at yourself in the mirror, as you "point fingers" ----along with the Protestant bible only's and other agnostics and atheists, of which the only thing you anti-Catholics know is to "insult, slam, ridicule attack the Catholic Church and the faith of any/and all Catholics on this forum ..........YOU "Catholic Bashers" came on this forum "looking for a fight" as you continue to rip our faith in God, Jesus Christ and His Catholic Church--with every hostile and vindictive comment you make....... EVERY ONE of your (loaded) statistics that you "dig up" are exaggerated and misrepresented from one of your obsolete liberal anti-Catholic sources that
have no more credibility than you, yourself...... For someone like you, Michael, that spends 24/7 frantically looking for something--ANYTHING that will further your hate, hostility and vengeance toward Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church,---I can only conclude that your daily life is about as (UNBELIEVABLY) "shallow and superficial" as it gets!!!!------
....24/7 you say. Yesterday I posted only once, how many times did you and Anthony post your hatred towards anyone not Catholic?

...Anthony hates anyone not raised like him. Read his posts from yesterday. He really needs help, like you do. Why not both go together it might save you some $$$.

...very sad.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#528476 Apr 11, 2014
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The Catholic Church as Jesus Christs One True Church "has had it right" for over 2000 years! 42,000 contradicting Protestant denominations sine the reformation have "made a inconsistent mess" of what the True Interpretation of the bible (is and was) since the Early Church Fathers " compiled it, wrote it and interpreted it in 382, 393 and 397 AD ........The TRUTH of the True Interpretation of the Bible and the TRUTH of the TRUE Doctrine of Jesus Christ "hasn't changed for over 2000 years in the a Catholic Church......You bible only's have over 42,000 self appointed preachers and ministers that keep " making up new" (man-made (opinionated) doctrines which have "no basis" of ANY biblical or historical truth to back. You still don't seem to understand the difference between TRUTH of DOCTRINE vs the CONDUCT of a small (2) percentage of pedophile priests who have "gone against the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Church and against their vocations as priests. The Church can say that it is wrong to kill, commit adultery, and sin---But that doesn't guarantee that it 's members won't commit sin. Jesus established and formed His One a True Cathoilc a Church "to save sinners" ( of which we all are).... If you are going to judge the Cathoilc Church by the "conduct and actions" of a few of its members--- then you better "throw out your bible" because EVERY ONE of its authors were sinners. Moses was a murderer, David was an adulterer and Paul said "I am the worst of sinners". This Only goes to show how ridiculous and twisted Protestants have become in their ingrained and distorted "anti-Catholic thinking!!!!!!!!
...Same old hatred of others. You need help Now!

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON to Save us

#528477 Apr 11, 2014
Liam wrote:
@ Marge and Rose
Dont get me wrong, I love prodigal son stories. I saw one a few months ago from an old friend. In this day and age, especially in this country, it seems like everyone needs an alter call. I think the 60's really messed up God's plan. Now the fallout from this is broken homes, families and lives. Suddenly the born again theory seems normal. People dont realize it wasn't supposed to go down like that.
The only problem I have with people like you, is your blatant disregard for truth. You forcefully ignore the first 1800 yrs of Christianity as if it never existed. Worse, many of you lie to yourselves and pretend the "Romans" were 'responsible for it all'. Apparently pretending this is your justification?
Truthfully, you guys dont have a clue. Your a band of religious anarchist. Those like you who been made aware of your errors, but deliberately ignore it are in danger as you stand before God.
I've said , over and over, many in the RCC are the,CHRISTIAN..

That is,NOT the,point ...my whole thing with Anthony ..what would YOU tell a,NON believer...
The,sixties,did,lead,to picked,that have caused,many broken homes...I agree..the,picked,NOW,to no God in the,public view...a,TV show,on the networks,about God ? Not today and so called family values have,New,meaning..many children and adults,have nothing to reference concerning God,if their patents,don't believe...

What on earth will we,say to these,people, if a spark is,ignited by the Holy Spirit and yet they have heard bad things,about this,Church or that ...DO YOU SAY hit the,road,if they don't want to be,Catholic or Baptist for that matter,,but want to know,about Jesus ...

Is,the Great Commission attend,my Church...see,my clergy for an answer, or telling them How,Much He,Loved,US...???

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