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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 695416 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Liam

Minneapolis, MN

#521106 Mar 14, 2014
Ohgee and chuck:

1chronicles 17: 12
"I will raise up your offspring after you, one of your own sons, and mine will establish his kingdom.

Daniel 7:27
"And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole Heaven, shall be given to the saints of the most high; there Kingdom shall be an everlasting Kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them"

Daniel 4:3
"His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation"

Mathew 3:2
"Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand"
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521107 Mar 14, 2014
Michael wrote:
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.....Ask any Jew who was John the Baptist, they will claim they know nothing about him.......and yet he was suppose to be a Jew like them.
..,How could someone who was a devout Jew, john baptist, baptize someone into catholicism........not to forget Catholicism had not yet been
Invented.
.....What would have happened if Jesus was out of town the day John baptist came through?
.....during this era there many Jewish/roman writers, scribes, government officials, philosophers, who wrote about issues of the day. Not one writing of a Jesus, Mary, Joseph, 12 apostles, john baptist. Only Christians believe they existed as who they claimed to be.
......something is terribly wrong.
The old testament was written by disgruntled Jews already trying to start a new religion.

They were the ones that came up with the idea that Jewish apostles predicted the coming of a savior.

Jews that started the original one-god dogma wrote into the dogmas that they were ADONAI's chosen few. They had no need for a savior.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521108 Mar 14, 2014
Gods R Delusions x Mine wrote:
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If they truly believed, would they be getting so angry at those who doesn't buy into their delusion?
Would you get angry if someone says that the earth is square?
Of course not. You are comfortable in your belief otherwise. You KNOW that's absurd. Mankind has all the proof needed.
Deep inside, they have serious doubts. So they go through the motions. Really, who gives away their wealth to follow Jesus?
Very, very few.
Better yet, who here even attempts to post in a manner that might be pleasing to their god Jesus?
They are angry because they want to believe that their assessment of religion is not only right ... but very righteous in deed.

No I wouldn't get angry if they swore that the world was square. After all some devout believers still believe that the earth is flat. "The Flat Earth Society."

:)
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https://www.google.ca/#q=The+flat+earth+socie...
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521109 Mar 14, 2014
Gods R Delusions x Mine wrote:
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They get hurt because you don't believe their delusion.
So they read things into your words and post things to hurt you.
That is because they know deep inside that their delusion makes no sense.
Forgive them.
Ramen
There's nothing to forgive.

I've been called every vile name in the book since I started posting on these threads. I take it all as part of the milieu, and find humor in it to boot.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#521110 Mar 14, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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I've read your sermons concerning how others don't live up to your self-perceived high standards.
Having been subjected to the arrogance of preachers most of my life, your sermon didn't move me to follow in your footsteps.
lol! you're about the preachiest, most opinionated person i ever came across in all of topix!

prob is, you're also about the most wounded and jaded as well so you definetly are NOT objective!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521111 Mar 14, 2014
From the book "History of the United States," by charles A. Beard and Mary R. Beard ... published 1923 ... comes the following........

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) author of America’s Declaration of Independance, influenced the French Revolution with his political and religious ideas. He was the author of the “Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom,” adopted in 1786, and his deistic views of religion helped establish reason as a popular authority.

Jefferson’s Deism

But those facts in the Bible which contradict the laws of nature, must be examined with more care, and under a variety of faces. Here you must recur to the pretensions of the writer to inspiration from God. Examine upon what evidence his pretensions are founded, and whether that evidence is so strong, as that its falsehood would be more improbable than a change in the laws of nature, in the case he relates. For example, in the book of Joshua, we are told, that the sun stood still several hours. Examine, therefore, candidly, what evidence there is of his having been inspired. The pretension is entitled to your enquiry, because millions believe it. On the other hand, you are astronomer enough to know how contrary it is to the law of nature that a body revolving on its axis, as the earth does, should have stopped, should not, by that sudden stoppage, have prostrated animals, trees buildings and should after a certain time have resumed its revolution, and that without a second general prostration. Is this arrest of the earth’s motion, or the evidence which affirms it, most within the law of probabilities?

Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of consequences. If it ends in belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue in the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise, and the love of others which it will procure you.
Liam

Minneapolis, MN

#521112 Mar 14, 2014
OldJG wrote:
In contrast, Mary said that God is her Savior.(Luke 1:47) If God was her Savior, then Mary was not sinless. Sinless people do not need a Savior.
Actually, Mary needed to be saved allot more than you and I, for obvious reasons... she was going to be the new ark of the covenant to bring the word of God- made flesh- to the world. Her saving was special and happened at the moment of her conception. God already knew her role before she was born......and from everything we know of God, He doesn't like sin. He's completely opposite of sin
.He can't combine with sin to create the perfect manifestation of Himself. So He saved her because He could. He's God.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521113 Mar 14, 2014
You can see in the above article that Thomas Jefferson's common sense alerted his conscience that something was desperately wrong with the "science" in concern with the men of religion.
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It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

Thomas Jefferson
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#521114 Mar 14, 2014
OldJG wrote:
Liam wrote:
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Do you really believe Jesus is going say John is greater than his own mother? Or greater than Himself? Both Jesus and Mary were born of woman..
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Chuck, well said. Clay had a lobotomy and has a tough time following these tough questions.
Liam wrote:
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Read Luke 7 in its entirety. Then do the same to Mathew 11. Do you honestly believe Jesus is 'switching gears' and making a broad statement about John? He's talking about prophets. Then he says "the least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he". That's us.(Well, I'm not exactly sure about you).
The Kingdom of Heaven is now. Jesus said "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven."
The new covenant, especially the supper of the Lamb, puts us into a greatness that none of the ancient prophets got to experience, including John the Baptist.
Nice spin and nice try but just another Roman Catholic spoof to undermine the word of God and glorify Mary.

Cly said, quote, "The Kingdom of Heaven is now. Jesus said "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven." End quote.

Matthew 6:10, "Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."

Jesus said "your kingdom come" not "your kingdom came". The word come is future tense not present tense. Did you go to English class?

Cly said, quote, "Then he says "the least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he". That's us.(Well, I'm not exactly sure about you)." End quote.

Matthew 11:11, "Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."

Cly, you are reading and comprehension challenged. Jesus said, "Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he." Jesus is telling us that although John is the greatest human ever born to a woman the twice born, those who have accepted Him as Lord and Savior, make up the kingdom of heaven and they are all greater than John.

Cly, you are certainly not included in the kingdom of heaven if you have placed your faith in the Roman Catholic church and not the Lord Jesus Christ.

Cly said, quote, "The new covenant, especially the supper of the Lamb, puts us into a greatness that none of the ancient prophets got to experience, including John the Baptist." End quote.

Dense is the word that comes to mind when I think of you. Apparently you have never read the book of the Revelation. Do Roman Catholics believe the "supper of the Lamb" occurs when they eat the Jesus cookie and drink the wine/blood. This re-sacrifice of Jesus has been coined "transubstantiation" by the Roman Catholic church. Is that what you are suggesting Cly? LOL LOL LOL

Revelation 19:7-10, 6 "Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,“Hallelujah!
For the Lord our God the Almighty reigns. 7 Let us rejoice and exult and give him the glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his Bride has made herself ready; 8 it was granted her to clothe herself with fine linen, bright and pure”—for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints. 9 And the angel said to me,“Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” And he said to me,“These are the true words of God.” 10 Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me,“You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God.” For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521115 Mar 14, 2014
On the other hand, all those Politicians back then knew that if they stated they were Atheists or even Agnostics, they would have been cast out of all circles immediately and vilified as offenders of "God."

And the same fits today.

Politicians (for the most part) have to claim they are Christian, or they will miss the boat ... er I should state that they will miss the "VOTE."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521116 Mar 14, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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lol! you're about the preachiest, most opinionated person i ever came across in all of topix!
prob is, you're also about the most wounded and jaded as well so you definetly are NOT objective!
Are you objective in the attitude that the one god favors Jews or Muslims ... not Christians?

"NO," you say???

I didn't think so.
Michael

Canada

#521117 Mar 14, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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lol! you're about the preachiest, most opinionated person i ever came across in all of topix!
prob is, you're also about the most wounded and jaded as well so you definetly are NOT objective!
....You must like Junes posts, because you read them.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521118 Mar 14, 2014
Politicians in Muslim dominated cultures must claim to be Muslim.

We might claim in Canada and the United States that we don't favor one religious party over another ... but that is a lie.

Which Christian in her/his frame of mind would vote for a Muslim faithful to Islam, or a Hindu faithful to Hinduism as the Prime Minister of Canada, or the President of the United States.

Come on now ... be honest!
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521119 Mar 14, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Actually, Mary needed to be saved allot more than you and I, for obvious reasons... she was going to be the new ark of the covenant to bring the word of God- made flesh- to the world.
Within wacked out theology, do you honestly believe that Mary had to become a Catholic to save the people of the world?

You are as arrogant as Ann Coulter, the Protestant nitwit, who claims that Christians are perfected Jews ... of all the stupid nonsense.

That means that had Jesus stayed faithful to Judaism he could not have been "perfected."
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521120 Mar 14, 2014
And a child shall lead them to THINK about it.
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From the book …“Billy” by Pamela Stephenson … comes the following.

One day, Jesus had come into conversation at home and Billy referred to Jesus as having been a Catholic, which was his seven-year-old misunderstanding. Aunt Margaret corrected him.‘Jesus wasn’t Catholic, Jesus was a Jew.’

‘Oh,’ he said with innocent surprise,‘does that mean we’re Jews?’

‘Where did you come up with that one?‘ she sneered, and continued to ridicule him until he was in his teens.‘Does that mean we’re Jewish?’ she would mimic him.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521121 Mar 14, 2014
Correct Philosophy

If Jesus wasn't a Catholic ... that means he WAS faithful to Judaism.
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521122 Mar 14, 2014
I comprehend that Jewish Rabbis do not join Catholic religions, as did the supposed Jesus under the tutelage of John the ex-Jew Catholic Baptist.

Bunkology
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521123 Mar 14, 2014
Michael wrote:
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....You must like Junes posts, because you read them.
Since you left the Catholic religion, have you ever considered joining another religion?
June VanDerMark

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#521124 Mar 14, 2014
When I was under the spell of religion I was objective in the belief that God would welcome everyone home ... people of all religions and no religion.

However, that issue of "God's" reason for creating all animals with a need to suffer never gave me peace of mind.

Now I understand that I couldn't find peace in that believe because it makes no sense whatsoever.

A perfect creator would create perfection ... or the creator could not BE perfect ... and suffering has nothing in common with the word perfect.
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Opposite Word of perfect:

"flawed, imperfect, inferior, second-rate, unbroken"

http://www.opposite-word.com/default.asp
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#521125 Mar 14, 2014
OldJG wrote:
In contrast, Mary said that God is her Savior.(Luke 1:47) If God was her Savior, then Mary was not sinless. Sinless people do not need a Savior.
Liam wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, Mary needed to be saved allot more than you and I, for obvious reasons... she was going to be the new ark of the covenant to bring the word of God- made flesh- to the world. Her saving was special and happened at the moment of her conception. God already knew her role before she was born......and from everything we know of God, He doesn't like sin. He's completely opposite of sin
.He can't combine with sin to create the perfect manifestation of Himself. So He saved her because He could. He's God.
Cly said, quote, "Actually, Mary needed to be saved allot more than you and I, for obvious reasons..." End quote.

Thank you. You are FINALLY right. Mary needed a Savior because she was a SINNER. Just like you and me Cly.

Cly said, quote, "He can't combine with sin to create the perfect manifestation of Himself. So He saved her because He could. He's God." End quote.

Mary was nothing more than a willing vessel and incubator used by God to create the human body of Jesus. Not one ounce of Mary's blood ran in the veins of Jesus. NONE. If you do not believe that read a medical book.

Also, after Jesus was born, Mary got naked and had sex with her husband Joseph. Together they had additional children.

Matthew 1:24-25, 24 "When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, 25 but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus."

Notice the wording.....the Bible says "he knew her not UNTIL she had given birth to a son." The verse does not say, "he knew her not." The Bible says "he knew her not UNTIL she had given birth to a son". Do you get it cly. They, Mary and Joseph, had sex after Jesus was born. Just sayin'

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