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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 670430 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#520594 Mar 12, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Liam

Denver, CO

#520595 Mar 12, 2014
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I give you the word of God and you attempt to shame me...
1Co 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
1Co 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
1Co 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
Yesterday i gave you proof from the Bible that you are wrong. don't take it up with me take it up with the Word of God
marge

Leesburg, GA

#520596 Mar 12, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Yesterday i gave you proof from the Bible that you are wrong. don't take it up with me take it up with the Word of God
We've already proved your proof wrong from the Bible, this time ask God to open your ears in hearing.

Question: "Was Saint Peter the first pope?"

Answer: The Roman Catholic Church sees Peter as the first pope upon whom God had chosen to build His church (Matthew 16:18). It holds that he had authority (primacy) over the other apostles. The Roman Catholic Church maintains that sometime after the recorded events of the book of Acts, the Apostle Peter became the first bishop of Rome, and that the Roman bishop was accepted by the early church as the central authority among all of the churches. It teaches that God passed Peter’s apostolic authority to those who later filled his seat as bishop of Rome. This teaching that God passed on Peter’s apostolic authority to the subsequent bishops is referred to as “apostolic succession.”

The Roman Catholic Church also holds that Peter and the subsequent popes were and are infallible when addressing issues “ex cathedra,” from their position and authority as pope. It teaches that this infallibility gives the pope the ability to guide the church without error. The Roman Catholic Church claims that it can trace an unbroken line of popes back to St. Peter, citing this as evidence that it is the true church, since, according to their interpretation of Matthew 16:18, Christ built His church upon Peter.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Peter-first-pope....
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marge

Leesburg, GA

#520597 Mar 12, 2014
But while Peter was central in the early spread of the gospel (part of the meaning behind Matthew 16:18-19), the teaching of Scripture, taken in context, nowhere declares that he was in authority over the other apostles, or over the church (having primacy). See Acts 15:1-23; Galatians 2:1-14; and 1 Peter 5:1-5. Nor is it ever taught in Scripture that the bishop of Rome, or any other bishop, was to have primacy over the church. Scripture does not even explicitly record Peter even being in Rome. Rather there is only one reference in Scripture of Peter writing from “Babylon,” a name sometimes applied to Rome (1 Peter 5:13). Primarily upon this and the historical rise of the influence of the Bishop of Rome come the Roman Catholic Church’s teaching of the primacy of the bishop of Rome. However, Scripture shows that Peter’s authority was shared by the other apostles (Ephesians 2:19-20), and the “loosing and binding” authority attributed to him was likewise shared by the local churches, not just their church leaders (see Matthew 18:15-19; 1 Corinthians 5:1-13; 2 Corinthians 13:10; Titus 2:15; 3:10-11).

Also, nowhere does Scripture state that, in order to keep the church from error, the authority of the apostles was passed on to those they ordained (the idea behind apostolic succession). Apostolic succession is “read into” those verses that the Roman Catholic Church uses to support this doctrine (2 Timothy 2:2; 4:2-5; Titus 1:5; 2:1; 2:15; 1 Timothy 5:19-22). Paul does NOT call on believers in various churches to receive Titus, Timothy, and other church leaders based on their authority as bishops or their having apostolic authority, but rather based upon their being fellow laborers with him (1 Corinthians 16:10; 16:16; 2 Corinthians 8:23).

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Peter-first-pope....
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marge

Leesburg, GA

#520598 Mar 12, 2014
What Scripture DOES teach is that false teachings would arise even from among church leaders, and that Christians were to compare the teachings of these later church leaders with Scripture, which alone is infallible (Matthew 5:18; Psalm 19:7-8; 119:160; Proverbs 30:5; John 17:17; 2 Peter 1:19-21). The Bible does not teach that the apostles were infallible, apart from what was written by them and incorporated into Scripture. Paul, in talking to the church leaders in the large city of Ephesus, makes note of coming false teachers. To fight against their error does NOT commend them to “the apostles and those who would carry on their authority”; rather, Paul commends them to “God and to the word of His grace”(Acts 20:28-32). It is Scripture that was to be the infallible measuring stick for teaching and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17), not apostolic successors. It is by examining the Scriptures that teachings are shown to be true or false (Acts 17:10-12).

Was Peter the first pope? The answer, according to Scripture, is a clear and emphatic “no.” Peter nowhere claims supremacy over the other apostles. Nowhere in his writings (1 and 2 Peter) did the Apostle Peter claim any special role, authority, or power over the church. Nowhere in Scripture does Peter, or any other apostle, state that their apostolic authority would be passed on to successors. Yes, the Apostle Peter had a leadership role among the disciples. Yes, Peter played a crucial role in the early spread of the gospel (Acts chapters 1-10). Yes, Peter was the “rock” that Christ predicted he would be (Matthew 16:18). However, these truths about Peter in no way give support to the concept that Peter was the first pope, or that he was the “supreme leader” over the apostles, or that his authority would be passed on to the bishops of Rome. Peter himself points us all to the true Shepherd and Overseer of the church, the Lord Jesus Christ (1 Peter 2:25).

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Peter-first-pope....
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Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#520599 Mar 12, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Yesterday i gave you proof from the Bible that you are wrong. don't take it up with me take it up with the Word of God
The Word of God is what you want it to be.

Using delusion to "prove" a delusion is....

Delusional.

Face facts, if your god wanted to be clear, then there wouldn't have been so many rebellions, schisms, and denominations. This god would have led the CC away from the many mistakes and corruption , which led to the many breakaways.

Or maybe you just happen to be part of the minority of humanity - 5% to 10% at best - who have it right.

In which case, your posts should make more sense. You would have no need to spend your time here "debating" Born Again loonies.

Here are the facts. My God is the one true God.

My God has never called for any human being to murder or torture another human being.

Start with a moral God and go from there.

Ramen
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#520600 Mar 12, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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The major problem is, that being inside the delusion, he DOESN'T know he is deluded.
That is why religion drove so many humans insane.
They are all insane, except for the poster - Truth.

That poster doesn't pretend to be rational.

The others claim to know a god who according to the Bible - gets angry and jealous and killed well over a million humans based on unchecked emotion.

How absurd.

Mine is the one true God, who is calling out to you Junith.

Come to the lite Junith.

Ramen.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#520601 Mar 12, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Yesterday i gave you proof from the Bible that you are wrong. don't take it up with me take it up with the Word of God
You want them to take it up (within the theology) with the god ADONAI who favored the Jews as his chosen few???

I suggest you wouldn't like the answer given to you by the Jews that stayed faithful to Judaism.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#520602 Mar 12, 2014
Gods R Delusions x Mine wrote:
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They are all insane, except for the poster - Truth.
That poster doesn't pretend to be rational.
The others claim to know a god who according to the Bible - gets angry and jealous and killed well over a million humans based on unchecked emotion.
How absurd.
Mine is the one true God, who is calling out to you Junith.
Come to the lite Junith.
Ramen.
I suggest the killing that occurred in religion by far exceeds one million people.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#520603 Mar 12, 2014
Gods R Delusions x Mine wrote:
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The Word of God is what you want it to be.
If you notice according to all preachers, the word of the gods was and is aligned to whatever the preachers preach.

Religion is self-servitude to egos allowed to go completely wild.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#520604 Mar 12, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
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So you're looking for intelligence.
No surprise there.
It is something you have not.....that's why you never can show it!!!

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#520605 Mar 12, 2014
marge wrote:
What Scripture DOES teach is that false teachings would arise
I suggest try that scripture on yourself for size ... and see how well it fits.

If you always use nasty scriptures to point outward, you never will see over the peak of your own ego. And I suggest the peak of your ego is unruly because you inflated it with hot air of your own making.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#520606 Mar 12, 2014
marge wrote:
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We've already proved your proof wrong from the Bible, this time ask God to open your ears in hearing.
When are you going to start preaching Judaism as the real truth??? ADONAI (the only god in the Abrahamic religion is waiting for you to call on him and teach you the real truth.

tongue in cheek
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#520607 Mar 12, 2014
Liam wrote:
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How would people obtain that sort of info? Especially during a time period when nobody had any idea what the guy down the road was doing? Her reply was expected.
She will mock us for believing in a God that's not true while at the same time, she believes these stories that aren't true. Both you two will latch on to anything if it smears the Catholic Church.
And no, it doesn't affect me or the truth of the Catholic faith if our Bishop sinned. Its unfortunate though, I would hate to be in their shoes as a stand before God.
The same is true of the Roman Catholic church. Using your expression, quote, "How would people obtain that sort of info? Especially during a time period when nobody had any idea what the guy down the road was doing?" End quote.

If we can't trust what was being said back then about the popes why would you expect anyone to believe what was being said about the Roman Catholic church? Of course you will say all things about the Roman Catholic church that were "good" is the truth and the rest is just the lies of the Roman haters. LOL LOL LOL

Pathetic little Roman!!!
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#520608 Mar 12, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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If you notice according to all preachers, the word of the gods was and is aligned to whatever the preachers preach.
And thanks to people like you.we'll never run out of good subject matter.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#520609 Mar 12, 2014
While Christians label others as evil ... I suggest that the following labels are REALLY what they hang on their selves.

Egos = planted and nurtured and allowed to grow wild.
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Opposite Word of evil:

"auspicious,decent,good,h onest,moral, sinless,upright,virtuous"

http://www.opposite-word.com/default.asp
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#520610 Mar 12, 2014
June VanDerMark wrote:
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And I suggest the peak of your ego is unruly because you inflated it with hot air of your own making.
YOU should keep your own rope tied to the ground or you may flote away also and block out the sun with your smugness.

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#520611 Mar 12, 2014
OldJG wrote:
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The same is true of the Roman Catholic church. Using your expression, quote, "How would people obtain that sort of info? Especially during a time period when nobody had any idea what the guy down the road was doing?" End quote.
If we can't trust what was being said back then about the popes why would you expect anyone to believe what was being said about the Roman Catholic church? Of course you will say all things about the Roman Catholic church that were "good" is the truth and the rest is just the lies of the Roman haters. LOL LOL LOL
Pathetic little Roman!!!
I suggest that if there was no law against violence concerning religion in America ... There would be continual war between all the factions ... that at the same time brag of knowing "divine" truth.

The only truth you people preach is that you all believe you deserve eternal bliss and others deserve eternal hell.

Sickening!!!
Gods R Delusions x Mine

Orlando, FL

#520612 Mar 12, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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It is something you have not.....that's why you never can show it!!!
Does your little god teach you to be rude?

So much for the values and morals of your religious delusion.

Mine is the one true God. Yours (if it were real) has an ego problem.

Ramen

Since: Sep 09

Prince George, Canada

#520613 Mar 12, 2014
I suggest that the numbers are much higher.
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How Many People Have Died in Religious Conflicts?

Answer

It is estimated that 809 million people have died in religious wars throughout the ages. The conflicts include crusades, inter religious conflict, religious sects conflicts etc.

http://www.ask.com/question/how-many-people-h...

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