Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 687165 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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marge

Leesburg, GA

#506728 Jan 16, 2014
Tango Bravo wrote:
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Are you saying that belief in Jesus is sufficient without regard to our attempts to deserve Redemption?
You don't believe in Jesus then, only He can heal one of unrighteousness.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#506729 Jan 16, 2014
Ltm I love Todd Starnes, he's all about Jesus for sure;

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/16/uco...

'I’m reminded of an old Southern Gospel song:

Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life

End over end, neither left nor to right.

Straight through the heart of them, righteous up rights

Dropkick me, Jesus, through the goal posts of life.'

This is about football you guys will like it.

Since: Jun 10

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#506730 Jan 16, 2014
Tango Bravo wrote:
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You're quoting an obscure author who had to turn to self-publishing in order to his "work" published. He's quoting a still more obscure author. If you want to quote Catholic Church Canon Law why not quote directly from Catholic Church Canon Law? That would be reliable information instead of what you post.
but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books. illustrative of the history, doctrine and rites, of the ancient Albigenses & Waldenses], London, Rivington, 1832, pp. 192-194.(Good enough for me!!!)

Research Interests: Ius Novissimum, Legislative Histories & Theory, Canonistics (Good enough for me!!!)

Source: Heresy and Authority in Medieval Europe, Edited with an introduction by Edward Peters, Scolar Press, London, copyright 1980 by Edward Peters, ISBN 0-85967-621-8, pp. 194-195, citing S. R. Maitland, Facts and Documents [illustrative of the history, doctrine and rites, of the ancient Albigenses & Waldenses], London, Rivington, 1832, pp. 192-194.(Good enough for me!!!)

Additional Sources:
Ecclesiastical History of Ancient Churches of the Albigenses, Pierre Allix, published in Oxford at the Clarendon Press in 1821, reprinted in USA in 1989 by Church History Research & Archives, P.O. Box 38, Dayton Ohio, 45449, p. 213 [Canon 14].(Good enough for me!!!!)

You bring to light the old adage "If you don't like the message...shoot the messenger!!!"

I noticed you have not refuted one word of truth in my post!!!!!

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#506731 Jan 16, 2014
Tango Bravo wrote:
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Assuming it's true that Catholics were ever discouraged from reading the Bible it's still true that Christian scholars have always done their best to explain not only what the Bible said but also what the Bible meant. Hence the Catholic Catechism. Two thousand years of scholarship takes precedence over your individual interpretations, unless you happen to be the greatest and most learned Bible scholar the world has ever seen. And you aren't.
There in is the problem I experienced!!!
"explain not only what the Bible said but also what the Bible meant. Hence the Catholic Catechism."

I was not taught what the Bible teaches.....only what they wanted me to believe.

Two thousand years of scholarship takes precedence over your individual interpretations, unless you happen to be the greatest and most learned Bible scholar the world has ever seen. And you aren't

I never ever interpret Scripture. I am led to all truth by the Holy Spirit...as promised by Christ..

Your Bible, evidently, does not teach: Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

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#506732 Jan 16, 2014
Tango Bravo wrote:
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Once again, you're trying to make a case for what the Catholic Church says by quoting obscure authors instead of quoting the Catholic Church directly. My guess is that you aren't even quoting obscure authors who quote still more obscure authors. What you're really doing is copying and pasting from an obscure anti-Catholic website that quotes obscure authors who quote obscure authors.
If you want to pick at what the Vatican says try quoting from a Vatican website instead of making up quotes. There isn't any point in wasting time refuting what you make up on your own. You'll just make up more.
Yep!!!! Don't like the message....shoot the messenger!!!!

BTW: I noticed you have not refuted one word I posted!!!!

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#506733 Jan 16, 2014
Tango Bravo wrote:
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Are you saying that belief in Jesus is sufficient without regard to our attempts to deserve Redemption? Can we lead a life of willful sinfulness and then be saved because we believe in Jesus?
What's an "ITB....Huh!!!!!!??? "? You aren't making any sense, much less answering my questions. Pope got your tongue?
Moi: We cannot do one thing that will qualify us as deserving redemption....what we do deserve is eternity in hell for our sins...Christ made it possible for us to receive the gift of Salvation...that gift, if accepted, cancels our just deserts in hell.

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#506734 Jan 16, 2014
Tango Bravo wrote:
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You're adding to the Bible when you use quotes from others to change the meaning of the Bible to agree with your preferences. Quoting the Bible directly won't help you at Judgement. It might even condemn you.
Am not...never did...never will...

Herein is your problem with Scripture: But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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#506735 Jan 16, 2014
Tango Bravo wrote:
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You read but do not understand.
Do me a favor...explain this Scripture to me...

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it

The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

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#506736 Jan 16, 2014
Catholics are lying when they say Christ built the Catholic church....so says the Catholic Encyclopedia!!!!!

Catholic Encyclopedia:

Church, The -

The term church is the name employed in the Teutonic languages to render the Greek ekklesia (ecclesia), the term by which the New Testament writers denote the society founded by Jesus Christ

What did Christ founded???? The Catholic church???? Uh-uh!!!!

What does the Greek word "ekklesia" mean??? The Catholic church????? Uh-uh!!!!!

It means: a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly,
marge

Leesburg, GA

#506737 Jan 16, 2014
Oxbow wrote:
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I never ever interpret Scripture. I am led to all truth by the Holy Spirit...as promised by Christ..
Your Bible, evidently, does not teach: Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
Yep!

Jesus is the Word made flesh!

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#506738 Jan 17, 2014
marge wrote:
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Yep!
Jesus is the Word made flesh!
Jesus was, while on earth, the incarnate Son of God....So says the Catholic Encyclopedia,
the Catholic NABre Bible, the SBC, and Scripture....

I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.

Christ was man with the full Deity and nature of God....which made Him equal to God...but He was not God....quote: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
concerned in Brasil

Copenhagen, Denmark

#506739 Jan 17, 2014
Liam wrote:
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Where does the Bible say "Gods word is only what was written down"? To me, that sounds like a doctrine made up by men.
You act like we Catholics think your worthless for being a evangelical fundie. I'll have you know, I was contacted by a childhood friend who hit rock bottom. A notorious biker gang took his patch and bike and kicked him out of the club. Knowing I turned my life around, he sought my help. I referred him to a club of ex bikers who are born again Christians. I know the president. They meet a couple times a week for Bible study and fellowship. Plus they do allot of riding in the summer. Catholicism would have been too much for him at this stage of his life. I gave him a bandaid for now by hooking him up with these good guys. Later, I'll bring him the rest of the way into the Catholic faith. And btw, he does desire that.
That is easy if you actually can read

6 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying,“Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. 7 For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

The RCC has not learned the meaning of the saying, to not go beyond what is written.
truth

Perth, Australia

#506740 Jan 17, 2014
na listu desne moje noge=right lag its birth as symbol
http://www.picturingangels.com/2011/10/gustav...
truth

Perth, Australia

#506741 Jan 17, 2014
on right hand between first two finger as heart point seed

as birth mark

if you have faith

on left side hand its secret side code too
who sustain earthly creation many times

its birth mark too since i been small child

gdje su me nosali

o dobre vile
gdje ste sa mnom bile
you need be as child
2.5 years i recall my mind ..o yee i have nice leather shoes and small tiny dress my good mother and father take care..i remember i cry
yee i left small tiny house on middle where my grandmother Ana sleep and died, small house not exist now..i keep my older sister Ana for her dress..priko Praga tu sam pala.
grandmother Ana died just before 21 days before my birth some month as my father now in some month as my birth..my mother told me..she going long walk in procession on funeral day oh she say its been hard walk but they love grandmother Ana..she care for my father and us!Grandmother Ana rest in old cemetery in family graveyards.
Just to extend on right hand church as cemetery ..its church Mother Mary Assumptions in Heaven yee with lots of nice angels there.
Kud su me angeli nosali pitaj dragog Boga.

I asked my grandmother who pray for us..she say all of us..then I asked many things about my grandfathers..i see other kids have happy days and many giftss from grandfathers but not me..i don't remember them..my grandmother say Your grandfather John pray always up to midnight..oh I say i liked him..then what a about others who not return home ..o she say who..after all who left home..tradition is have to keep family and property and so on..then I say please te me words about him..oh she say he giving food and money free to the poor all times as he could..not good not good for family he have to keep family buisness..you know..no grandmother he is as Jesus Christ give for poor..how you can say he is not good..after all peter never return home but we liked him as kids..how shwe can say not good to me..after all i don't liked that she say not even zuc against them..poor people been in need that time they working for them for peace of bread..no grandmother you can't be greedy.
My grandmother say my old man left me here i am not going or listen anyone after all she sit as queen in castle.
Could you imagine that.

I left my religion school and go over road cross today border go there in school as well in church.
I start read in church trough Sunday from holy scripture..alright I say not to much people there no..oh then youngest people start return then oldest too..one lovely atheist lady say..i will come after all I say..when you died did you know where you going..next Sunday she come then after that more atheist come..when this child can all of us can do some..on that time my people return complete in church who liked or not.
For blessing cemetery on graveyards too..priest say just a minute I have to do something then he go first where I been on my site of my family not even makac from there when he call come here pray in order then i will come after ..no no no
I stay there after all did you pay me for reading if I am not here today nobody will be here.
Then you need know we respect our oldest family roots.
truth

Perth, Australia

#506742 Jan 17, 2014
not my grandmother say always to me
as bonton=as book how you going behave yourself in house and with oldest then you..
noooo I say her neverrrrrrrrrrrrr
After all I am not your slave I come here 'love you' as much as could as child need fill that.
Then you are in vain my grandmother.
She have princip in life no what is not right,that's all..but my grandmother give me freedom better then anyone after.
You work very hard my grandmother say when I grow up, i see her emotional side..book she say book my child I don't liked that your father do this or that.

No grandmother you teach me respect parents in hardship too.
My grandmother fill sorry when she become old lady toward me o yee she died over my hand and hand of my anthy.
I left work what I have to do but I sustain last moment what she need priest and doctor too.
I see what I never see her soul when depart from her.
My too last grandmothers died with me in last breath..this is your savior I give Cross last time to them ..Jesus Christ ..before priest come.I read holy scripture because of my grandfather John, I don't liked stop and never stop thinking Jesus Christ is my Lord and Lord of my family too.
truth

Perth, Australia

#506743 Jan 17, 2014
http://www.picturingangels.com/2011/10/gustav...

for me and my childreen not to be chance gopo futher too school
only p[riviladge under system and party organization as today some

some for me and my family

i belong to my father and my mother and my people and my religion we bealieve in Jesus Christ but been left alone from everyone.

by my lovly accusers abusers and judges

Where are you going one day
in this city nothing exist in future..nooooooooooo
truth

Perth, Australia

#506744 Jan 17, 2014
party and system of organization are dirty water

thats all
never sit with them not eat with them
not meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
n
concerned in Brasil

Copenhagen, Denmark

#506745 Jan 17, 2014
And indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.(like Popes of Rome)

You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them; and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
(learned from childhood clearly its not complicated)

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
(Clearly the word is sufficient and no man made tradition required)

I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction.

(Clearly we are to interpret the scripture as we are solemnly charged to to preach the word, we don't need to be a RC priest or anything else)
(we as individuals are called to rebuke exhort reprove)

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires; and will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths. But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.(2 Timothy 3:12; 4:5)

(yes to myths like the assumption of Mary, ever sinless Mary, even now virgin birth of Mary who is now call co redeemer in our salvation all Lies all myth)

No the RCC is not the one true yadda yadda as she puts the myths and traditions of men over the scripture.
truth

Perth, Australia

#506746 Jan 17, 2014
your Timothy teach you its all about money
jada jada jada
What a false teaching mistreat others just for money party and organization!

God listen always prayers!
Creator of all things exist.
truth

Perth, Australia

#506747 Jan 17, 2014
God love his Creation.

Man liked money and possession.

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